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Old 10-16-2003, 12:43 PM   #1
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Post [FOF/TCY] Enter The Matrix

What if you were part of a consortium of evil overlords sometime in the 23rd century who used human beings as a source of power and entertainment, a la "The Matrix?" Suppose some of you got together and wanted to introduce a professional football program. The league would mimic the NFL from a few hundred years ago. A college system would be put in place to provide a regular influx of talent. Once the program is running, you'll mostly just watch, and have regular input on the management decisions of one of the teams in the league. The Matrix will manage the other 31 teams.

Your input is requested to help build the foundation of the league. Each team will be granted the following players:

1 Rare Superstar
1 Superstar
2 Near Superstars
2 Elite Starters
2 Excellent Starters

Choose a team, and then provide names, positions, and (optionally) any particular attributes you would like to see generated in each player for each of the available slots. You may use actual historical players, or make up entirely fictional characters. Each team will be assigned the 8 players to their initial roster with a 5 year cap-friendly contract.


I doubt all 32 teams will be represented here. Teams will be "assigned" on a first-post, first served basis. Please choose only one team until the thread has been around for a few days, so as to give as many people as are interested a chance to participate. I will play as the Washington Redskins, and will choose the seed roster for that team. If teams are left unclaimed, I'll do my best to fill in the blanks, but they may end up left empty, and thus highly disadvantaged early in the game.


Once the program begins, an annual draft file will be generated from the college program. This file will be modified with draftee suggestions taken from the consortium. Before the draft each year, anyone may provide data for one quality draft prospect. Post as much or as little detail about the draftee as you like - including name, college, hometown, height, weight, etc. Desired skill set will be taken into consideration, but left to my discretion. Any suggested draftee will be a high-round prospect.


Time permitting, I will try to run this dynasty at a one-season-per-week pace. This should allow enough time to get feedback from the board and for me to run the game and compile reports. Please post questions, suggestions, and general feedback concerning the general structure of this dynasty - I'm happy to make changes if they make more sense than what I'm already planning to do here.

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Old 10-16-2003, 12:52 PM   #2
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Old 10-16-2003, 01:00 PM   #3
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I expected as much. Post your players when you get a chance.
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Old 10-16-2003, 01:14 PM   #4
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Old 10-16-2003, 01:22 PM   #5
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Can you have a team with characters from "Star Wars" or the WWF, for example? Maybe even cartoon characters, as references to the pop culture of "past times"?
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Old 10-16-2003, 01:40 PM   #6
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Can you have a team with characters from "Star Wars" or the WWF, for example? Maybe even cartoon characters, as references to the pop culture of "past times"?


The Force is strong with this one... follow your instincts.

Heck, if you want, you can, say, choose the Arizona Cardinals and re-name them the Mos Eisley Bounty Hunters - so long as there's no objection from the rest of the participants, I think it's best to let everyone have fun with it.
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Old 10-16-2003, 01:53 PM   #7
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And the stars for your Dallas Cowboys are....

Code:
QB Roger Staubach #12 Navy 6'3" 202lbs RB Emmitt Smith #22 Florida 5'10" 209lbs FB Daryl Johnston #48 Syracuse 6'2" 238lbs C Mark Stepnoski #53 Pitt 6'2" 265lbs LG Larry Allen #73 Sonoma State 6'3" 335lbs LT Mark Tuinei #71 Hawaii 6'5" 315lbs (RIP :( ) WR Michael Irvin #88 Miami 6'2" 205lbs MLB Lee Roy Jordan #55 Alabama 6'2" 229lbs
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Old 10-16-2003, 01:55 PM   #8
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And the stars for your Dallas Cowboys are....

Code:
QB Roger Staubach #12 Navy 6'3" 202lbs RB Emmitt Smith #22 Florida 5'10" 209lbs FB Daryl Johnston #48 Syracuse 6'2" 238lbs C Mark Stepnoski #53 Pitt 6'2" 265lbs LG Larry Allen #73 Sonoma State 6'3" 335lbs LT Mark Tuinei #71 Hawaii 6'5" 315lbs (RIP :( ) WR Michael Irvin #88 Miami 6'2" 205lbs MLB Lee Roy Jordan #55 Alabama 6'2" 229lbs


If you like, you can specify which is the "Rare Superstar," etc. Or, if you prefer, you can leave that to chance.
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Old 10-16-2003, 01:56 PM   #9
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I really want to join, but I'm not sure how much time this will take. I want to make sure I will be able to do it.

If it isn't too much time to do, I will be the Miami Dolphins. Are you surprised?
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Old 10-16-2003, 02:04 PM   #10
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The Mos Eisley Banthas:
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QB - Luke Skywalker (Superstar) RB - Princess Leia (Excellent Starter) WR - Han Solo (Near Superstar) TE - Wookie Chewbacca (Elite Starter) DE - Darth Vader (Rare Superstar) ILB - Emperor Palpatine (Elite Starter) DT - Jabba the Hutt (Near Superstar) SS - Darth Maul (Excellent Starter)
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Old 10-16-2003, 02:11 PM   #11
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If you like, you can specify which is the "Rare Superstar," etc. Or, if you prefer, you can leave that to chance.


OK, cool...


Staubach - Near Superstar
Emmitt - Rare Superstar
Moose - Excellent Starter
Stepnoski - Elite Starter
Allen - Near Superstar
Tuinei - Elite Starter
Irvin - Excellent Starter
Jordan - Superstar
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Old 10-16-2003, 02:11 PM   #12
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New Orleans Saints

1 Rare Superstar--Rickey Jackson (SLB)
1 Superstar--Sam Mills (ILB)
2 Near Superstars--Joe Johnson (DE); Pat Swilling (WLB)
2 Elite Starters--Darren Howard (DE); Jim Wilkes (DT)
2 Excellent Starters--Sammy Knight (SS); Jonathan Sullivan (DT)
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Old 10-16-2003, 02:12 PM   #13
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Damn, gonna fun watching Emmitt play against that Saints D...
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Old 10-16-2003, 03:05 PM   #14
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The Mos Eisley Banthas:
Code:
QB - Luke Skywalker (Superstar) RB - Princess Leia (Excellent Starter) WR - Han Solo (Near Superstar) TE - Wookie Chewbacca (Elite Starter) DE - Darth Vader (Rare Superstar) ILB - Emperor Palpatine (Elite Starter) DT - Jabba the Hutt (Near Superstar) SS - Darth Maul (Excellent Starter)



Awesome... but you need to claim a current team to replace.
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Old 10-16-2003, 03:11 PM   #15
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Old 10-16-2003, 03:15 PM   #16
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Wow, the NFC East is filling up quick...
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Old 10-16-2003, 03:43 PM   #17
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As much as I think this would be cool, I dont think I'd be able to get into it, with say, the Dolphins
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Old 10-16-2003, 03:43 PM   #18
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NY Giants Roster

Rare Superstar - LB Lawrence Taylor
Superstar - DE Michael Strahan
Near Superstar - RB Frank Gifford
Near Superstar - LB Carl Banks
Elite Starter - LB Sam Huff
Elite Starter - QB Phil Simms
Excellent Starter - WR Amani Toomer
Excellent Starter - TE Mark Bavaro
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Old 10-16-2003, 04:30 PM   #19
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New England Patriots

Rare Superstar - WR Paul Revere
Superstar - QB Owen Hunter
Near Superstar - LT Jimmy Chamberlain
Near Superstar - FS Maximus Meridius
Elite Starter - DE Sam Adams
Elite Starter - MLB Brock Gotter
Excellent Starter - RB Van Kangas
Excellent Starter - MLB Drew Blizzi
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Old 10-16-2003, 05:42 PM   #20
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I'll take the Eagles

Rare Superstar - QB Randall Cunningham #12 UNLV
Superstar - DE Reggie White #91 Tennessee
Near Superstar - CB Eric Allen #21 Arizona State
Near Superstar - FS Brian Dawkins #20 Clemson
Elite Starter - OLB Seth Joyner #59 Texas - El Paso
Elite Starter - WR Fred Barnett #86 Arkansas State
Excellent Starter - HB Keith Byars #41 Ohio State
Excellent Starter - DE Clyde Simmons #96 Western Carolina

[EDIT] Added numbers and colleges

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Old 10-16-2003, 05:54 PM   #21
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I'll take the Eagles

Rare Superstar - QB Randall Cunningham
Superstar - DE Reggie White
Near Superstar - CB Eric Allen
Near Superstar - FS Brian Dawkins
Elite Starter - OLB Seth Joyner
Elite Starter - WR Fred Barnett
Excellent Starter - HB Keith Byars
Excellent Starter - DE Clyde Simmons


Amazing.... you've been registered for over a year, and your first-ever post is in my dynasty thread.
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Old 10-16-2003, 06:06 PM   #22
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The Mos Eisley Banthas:

DT - Jabba the Hutt (Near Superstar)



I always Pictured Jabba the Hutt to be an O-lineman
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Old 10-16-2003, 06:10 PM   #23
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i'll claim the Lions..... roster upcoming
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Old 10-16-2003, 06:13 PM   #24
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OK... the Washington Redskins will start with:

Rare Superstar - RB John Riggins #44
Superstar - OLB LaVar Arrington #56
Near Superstar - QB Sonny Jurgenson #9
Near Superstar - LT Joe Jacoby #66
Elite Starter - WR Art Monk #81
Elite Starter - DT Dave Butz #65
Excellent Starter - CB Darrell Green #28
Excellent Starter - G Russ Grimm #68
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Old 10-16-2003, 06:18 PM   #25
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FYI - I'm going to set all the birthdates to 1-1-1979, so that we've got a youthful core of players to begin with. Unless otherwise specified, I'm leaving all the other personal data alone (hometown, college, etc.)
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Old 10-16-2003, 06:19 PM   #26
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Amazing.... you've been registered for over a year, and your first-ever post is in my dynasty thread.


Yeah...I know...joined back when I bought TCY...but, never had the urge to post...don't know why. Then, when I did get the urge to post...never remembered my password...and was too lazy to reset it...until today!!!!
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Old 10-16-2003, 06:19 PM   #27
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Can I take the Texans and rename them the Oilers?

If so:

Rare Superstar: Warren Moon (QB) #1
Superstar: Earl Campbell (RB) #34
Near Superstar: Ernest Givens (WR) #81
Elite Starter: Drew Hill (WR) #85
Excellent Starter: Haywood Jefferies (WR) #84
Near Superstar: Bruce Matthews (C) #74
Elite Starter: Mike Munchak (G) #63
Excellent Starter: Chris Dishman (CB) #28

And if possible, set them up to run a 3 or 4 WR offense, thanks.
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Old 10-16-2003, 06:38 PM   #28
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I will take the Vikings!

1 Rare Superstar (QB Sean Salisbury)
1 Superstar (RB Leroy Hoard)
2 Near Superstars (DE Lance Johnstone, OT Korey Stringer )
2 Elite Starters (WR Chris Walsh, CB Tyrone Carter)
2 Excellent Starters (MLB Franklin Noble, DT Jason Fisk)
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Old 10-16-2003, 06:42 PM   #29
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I will take the Vikings!

1 Rare Superstar (QB Sean Salisbury)
1 Superstar (RB Leroy Hoard)
2 Near Superstars (DE Lance Johnstone, OT Korey Stringer )
2 Elite Starters (WR Chris Walsh, CB Tyrone Carter)
2 Excellent Starters (MLB Franklin Noble, DT Jason Fisk)


Wow, and I was going to go for the Vikes before settling on the Oilers. Wonder how Tark, Carter, Reveiz, Smith and co are going to enjoy watching Salisbury at the helm. Is he still hosting that show with the remote control home made bashing bots?
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Old 10-16-2003, 07:16 PM   #30
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DA BEARS!

QB: #11 Jim Miller (Superstar)
RB: #34 Walter Payton (Rare Superstar)
WR: #81 Willie Gault (Near Superstar)
WR: #86 Marty Booker (Excellent Starter)
MLB: #50 Mike Singletary (Near Superstar)
OLB: #54 Brian Urlacher (Elite Starter)
DE: #72 William Perry (Elite Starter)
FS: #40 Mike Brown (Excellent Starter)

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Old 10-16-2003, 07:25 PM   #31
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I'll take the San Francisco 49ers:

QB #16 Joe Montana (Rare Superstar)
WR #80 Jerry Rice (Superstar)
WR #81 Terrell Owens (Near Superstar)
S #42 Ronnie Lott (Near Superstar)
RB #33 Roger Craig (Elite Starter)
DE #94 Charles Haley (Elite Starter)
LB #98 Julian Peterson (Excellent Starter)
DE #?? Dana Stubblefield (Excellent Starter)
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Old 10-16-2003, 08:08 PM   #32
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1 Superstar (QB Andre Ware)
2 Near Superstars (ILB Chris Spielman, CB Ray Crockett)
2 Elite Starters (WR Herman Moore, WR-KR Mel Gray)
2 Excellent Starters (DT Jerry Ball, K Jason Hanson)
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Old 10-16-2003, 09:55 PM   #33
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Dammit, Travis. I was a day late and a dollar short. I wanted to take Tennessee and rename them the Oilers. I would have gone with Childress over Dishman, but a good job for the most part

Unfortunately, I don't really have any teams I'd be interested in using other than the Oilers but Travis looks to represent us well.

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Old 10-16-2003, 11:36 PM   #34
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Your Miami Dolphins:

QB- Rare Superstar: Dan Marino
RB- SuperStar: Ricky Williams
WR- Near SuperStar: Mark Clayton
C- Near SuperStar: Dwight Stephenson
TE- Elite Starter: Randy McMichael
DE- Elite Starter: Jason Taylor
LB- Excellent Starter: Nick Buoniconti
CB- Excellent Starter: Patrick Surtain
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Old 10-17-2003, 12:03 AM   #35
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Dammit, Travis. I was a day late and a dollar short. I wanted to take Tennessee and rename them the Oilers. I would have gone with Childress over Dishman, but a good job for the most part

Unfortunately, I don't really have any teams I'd be interested in using other than the Oilers but Travis looks to represent us well.

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Heh, you nailed my last choice on the nose there. That, or I was considering Kearse on the end, but would have ended up taking Childress over him. Just couldn't pass up that shut down corner though.
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Old 10-17-2003, 12:23 AM   #36
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Dammit, Travis. I was a day late and a dollar short. I wanted to take Tennessee and rename them the Oilers.


When I saw what he was doing I knew that it was going to make you mad...
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Old 10-17-2003, 12:34 AM   #37
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When I saw what he was doing I knew that it was going to make you mad...


Nah, not mad at all- he's done a great job. But I do wish I had gotten it sooner so I could have done it

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Old 10-17-2003, 01:17 AM   #38
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Well, maybe you can have an Oilers Part Deux. You know, Cody Carlson at QB, Lorenzo White at RB, Curtis Duncan, Webster Slaughter, and Gary Wellman at reciever. You can use Childress on the D-Line, Al Del Greco as kicker supreme and top it all off with LB Barron Wortham, that great former UTEP Miner!

Come on SI, it'll be fun! We need you in the league!!!
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Old 10-17-2003, 01:26 AM   #39
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Well, maybe you can have an Oilers Part Deux. You know, Cody Carlson at QB, Lorenzo White at RB, Curtis Duncan, Webster Slaughter, and Gary Wellman at reciever. You can use Childress on the D-Line, Al Del Greco as kicker supreme and top it all off with LB Barron Wortham, that great former UTEP Miner!

Come on SI, it'll be fun! We need you in the league!!!


I just can't do the Oilers without Warren Moon.. Then again, this second Oilers anti-Tennessee team is intriguing *goes to pro-football-reference.com*

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Old 10-17-2003, 01:28 AM   #40
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Sweet...
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Old 10-17-2003, 01:36 AM   #41
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Absolutes:
DE: Ray Childress
WR: Curtis Duncan
So Gary Brown, Lo White, or Mike Rozier?

You know, I just can't come up with enough. I don't know anything about the Luv Ya Blue days except I've seen lots of video about Campbell and Bum Phillips was a huge figure at coach.


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Old 10-17-2003, 01:43 AM   #42
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Awesome... but you need to claim a current team to replace.


It doesn't matter really, take the Cardinals (as I suspect nobody else will)
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Old 10-17-2003, 01:48 AM   #43
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You have to go with Lo. at running back...

Hmmm, you could go with Chandler, Carlson, or Bucky Richardson at QB (but really, you have to go with Cody), and there are some pretty decent defensive players you can use. William Fuller, Al Smith, Sean Jones, Lamar Lathon, Blaine Bishop, Daryll Lewis, Barron Wortham ( ), etc...

Don't forget Del Greco either. A great kicker might be valuable...
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Old 10-17-2003, 01:56 AM   #44
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Absolutes:
DE: Ray Childress
WR: Curtis Duncan
So Gary Brown, Lo White, or Mike Rozier?

You know, I just can't come up with enough. I don't know anything about the Luv Ya Blue days except I've seen lots of video about Campbell and Bum Phillips was a huge figure at coach.


SI


I mean, you can't go too wrong with McNair, George/White, Slaughter, Duncan, Stepnoski, Kearse, Childress (a'course), Al Smith, Eddie Robinson, Darryl Lewis, Marcus Robertson, or heck, even Del Greco and Montgomery (Roby was with them for a bit too wasn't he?)
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Old 10-17-2003, 01:57 AM   #45
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And hey, if we have enough Oiler's teams, one of us will have to do well, like when we picked a few of the 80's Oiler's teams for that tourney that was run on here.
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Old 10-17-2003, 03:48 AM   #46
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I always Pictured Jabba the Hutt to be an O-lineman


Well, I sure can visualize Jabba collapsing the pocket with that swim move of his.
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Old 10-17-2003, 05:47 AM   #47
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I was going to take the Falcons..but I can't come up with 8 good players
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Old 10-17-2003, 10:10 AM   #48
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I'll take the Arizona Cardinals, make them into the Oklahoma Sooners, but make the players and stuff in a later post.
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Old 10-17-2003, 10:13 AM   #49
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I'll take the Colts and turn them into the Arkham Avengers. The player list will be posted later.

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Old 10-17-2003, 10:25 AM   #50
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Originally posted by Coffee Warlord
DA BEARS!

QB: #11 Jim Miller (Superstar)
RB: #34 Walter Payton (Rare Superstar)
WR: #81 Willie Gault (Near Superstar)
WR: #86 Marty Booker (Excellent Starter)
MLB: #50 Mike Singletary (Near Superstar)
OLB: #54 Brian Urlacher (Elite Starter)
DE: #72 William Perry (Elite Starter)
FS: #40 Mike Brown (Excellent Starter)



Miller, Perry, and Brown? Boooooo!!!
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