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Old 01-24-2004, 08:15 PM   #101
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Continue onto position N-3

GoldenEagle

Proceed to N-2 along with my own tracks to assist Psykov and Travis, but to stay out of firing range of the tanks (to not block their firing range)

Question?

The rocks to the right of N-2, are they drivable/passable for our halftracks?
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Old 01-24-2004, 11:20 PM   #102
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Are you alone goign to be able todo a quick bailout if RealDeal gets in trouble?
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Old 01-24-2004, 11:50 PM   #103
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That really sucks...lose two squads in my first battle!

My remaining squad will sit tight at DataKing's command...
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Old 01-25-2004, 02:07 AM   #104
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N-3's where I'm going.
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Old 01-25-2004, 11:19 AM   #105
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Sachmo: Want help? I could wheel left and head through the gap between N1 and N2 to get another set of guns on him.

If not then I want to continue as planned toward N3, Coug.
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Old 01-25-2004, 12:57 PM   #106
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WSU, at least in CMBO, if you want you can turn on the movement lines for everyone so that continuing orders will show up in the screenshots. I'd assume you can do the same in CMBB. I don't recall what the hotkey is for it in CMBO, though.

Edit: You'll also then get the benefit of seeing targetting lines, at least in CMBO, which can help if your men have spotted something to shoot at that you haven't seen yet.

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Old 01-25-2004, 02:08 PM   #107
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sachmo: You are now at the eastern base of that small hill, with scattered trees ahead. It's tricky to say, but it would be a tough shot for the Russian to hit you through those trees. You don't, however, want to go backward up the hill and expose yourself (no jokes, guys!). And your PSW-222s don't carry smoke rounds, sorry.

Qwikshot: Your halftracks cannot go through the rocky terrain, but it is in patches so it can be navigated (though slowly).

It seems that DeToxRox is not going to be an active participant, so DataKing why don't you assign someone to command the two Pz-IIIhs in his absence. Yourself or one of the two Blades would be logical choices.

Thanks for the suggestions, Mr. Wednesday. I knew of that stuff but am struggling with the images already in terms of clutter and color. However, if someone wants to see their courses plotted, let me know.
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Old 01-25-2004, 07:41 PM   #108
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Are you alone goign to be able todo a quick bailout if RealDeal gets in trouble?

I think regardless of the matter RealDeal is heading to N-3. If you want to head to N-2 to space ourselves from the tanks, go for it. I'll will cover your back and figure where next to go, should we encounter resistance.

I really want to be out of the tanks line of fire, and I'm considered wiggling through the rocky outcroppings.
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Old 01-25-2004, 08:38 PM   #109
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Old 01-25-2004, 11:12 PM   #110
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Head NE towards Calis 2nd squadrons current position at a quick pace
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Old 01-26-2004, 02:58 AM   #111
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Okay, turn my Panzers around and head toward the gap between N1 and N2, but stop inbetween them as close to hull down as possible, I don't want to go charging down the hill, just have a look. If I could get into a firing position on the enemy tank then I'lll take a few shots.
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Old 01-26-2004, 09:12 AM   #112
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Okay, turn my Panzers around and head toward the gap between N1 and N2, but stop inbetween them as close to hull down as possible, I don't want to go charging down the hill, just have a look. If I could get into a firing position on the enemy tank then I'lll take a few shots.
Unless I hear otherwise I will move the Pz-IIIhs as you state above, but FYI your tanks can go through the scattered trees (N-2) if you want them to.
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Old 01-26-2004, 09:48 AM   #113
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Why don't we let Blade6119 take control of those Panzer IIIs. He's pretty much just been along for the ride thus far anyhow, and running a couple of machinegun squads probably won't be that exciting anyway.
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Old 01-26-2004, 10:06 AM   #114
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I dunno, we saw what happens when we put anything under Blade6119's command.
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Old 01-26-2004, 10:24 AM   #115
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Why don't we let Blade6119 take control of those Panzer IIIs. He's pretty much just been along for the ride thus far anyhow, and running a couple of machinegun squads probably won't be that exciting anyway.

I am honored to accept this post from my commander, and will now proceed to review all relevant information of the command. I wil continue to lead my machine gunners as well, but it appears they have been relegated to a covering role, and will not play a vital role in what i forsee to be a tank battle
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Old 01-26-2004, 10:31 AM   #116
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okay,

go east down the set of trees, set up a good firing position...
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Old 01-26-2004, 10:31 AM   #117
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Alright blade6119, you've got the two PanzerIIIs. You're right on the hot point, so be careful.

Also, let's have DataKing command the HMGs directly. That way he has sort of a company-level reserve to work with.
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Old 01-26-2004, 10:33 AM   #118
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okay, go east down the set of trees, set up a good firing position...
Since the line of trees (occupied by samifan24) are blocking, do you want to go around their north end, south end, or both (2 each)?
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Old 01-26-2004, 10:33 AM   #119
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I dunno, we saw what happens when we put anything under Blade6119's command.

If im not mistaken, it is never my fault...seems like every time i get anything to control, its in a dynasty run by a Blade-hater...to quote Mike Tyson: "I don't understand why everyone got to be hatin...i only threatened to eat his babies..." That last part isnt relevant...just felt right to add it though

On the bright side, at least im gettting the commands, and its always due to my excellent service and bravery...whats the last thing Calis commanded?
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Old 01-26-2004, 10:35 AM   #120
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Alright blade6119, you've got the two PanzerIIIs. You're right on the hot point, so be careful.

Also, let's have DataKing command the HMGs directly. That way he has sort of a company-level reserve to work with.

Roger that..Data now has command of my HMGs, but am i going to get them back in the next mission...i would be willing to give up my tank command to control them in a battle where they actually do something...
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Old 01-26-2004, 10:46 AM   #121
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If im not mistaken, it is never my fault...seems like every time i get anything to control, its in a dynasty run by a Blade-hater...to quote Mike Tyson: "I don't understand why everyone got to be hatin...i only threatened to eat his babies..." That last part isnt relevant...just felt right to add it though

On the bright side, at least im gettting the commands, and its always due to my excellent service and bravery...whats the last thing Calis commanded?

Heh, yeah..it's not your fault at all, just messing with ya.

Hopefully you can break the curse with this command of Panzers! Fight the man!
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Old 01-26-2004, 10:49 AM   #122
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By the way, I am eager as hell to play out this next turn. I think things are going to get very interesting very soon. And honestly, that's not foreshadowing...I don't know anything you guys don't, I just think given the layout of the map that we're nearing the serious contact point.
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Old 01-26-2004, 10:57 AM   #123
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Heh, yeah..it's not your fault at all, just messing with ya.

Hopefully you can break the curse with this command of Panzers! Fight the man!

Im just messin too man..hopefully my panzers can due a good job...i seem to now be the lead(with you of course ) of the assualt in the middle(by far the weakest in troop strength of the three sectors, but not in spirit)...if this is not a call for a hero or two, i dont know what is. Lets take it to em calis!

Orders: I would like for my tanks to attempt to clear the opening that lies in front of us as quickly as possible...The house appears to be the only cover for a short while, so for speed reasons, if Clais wanted to hop on to clear the field my boys would be much obliged. From there we can hit the isolated objective flag to our front-right. If Kingfc would cover the movement over the field, we would return the favor after getting across.


Any ideas King and Calis?
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Old 01-26-2004, 11:10 AM   #124
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come on calis...i know your on!
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Old 01-26-2004, 11:36 AM   #125
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WSU could I get into the trees of N2, and be hull down, whilst still getting a shot at the newly spotted tank? If so, I would like to do that.
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Old 01-26-2004, 12:11 PM   #126
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WSU could I get into the trees of N2, and be hull down, whilst still getting a shot at the newly spotted tank? If so, I would like to do that.
Although scattered trees offer a little cover, I strongly doubt hull down is possible. The lay of the land there is flat and the Russian T-26(?) is up on a rise.
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Old 01-26-2004, 02:43 PM   #127
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I'm hoping to process Turn 3 tonight, so please get any other input in ASAP. Thanks guys.
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Old 01-26-2004, 03:14 PM   #128
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Okay, back to what I originally said. Stop up somewhere betwwen N1 and N2 and have a peak down to the lower ground.
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Old 01-26-2004, 10:54 PM   #129
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Any ideas King and Calis?

I was planning on heading towards the tree cover where Calis 2nd squadron is and cover anybody making a run over the field from there.
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Old 01-26-2004, 11:05 PM   #130
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I was planning on heading towards the tree cover where Calis 2nd squadron is and cover anybody making a run over the field from there.
Wow, thats exactly what i recommended you do!...great minds think alike!
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Old 01-26-2004, 11:17 PM   #131
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we're going to continue forward, popping more smoke if we have it, a bit slower now.. trying to establish contact with the enemy.
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Old 01-27-2004, 08:49 AM   #132
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Hmmm...curious.

We've advanced an all fronts but have not spotted any more Soviet units. Other than the continuing artillery barrage (which is a humdinger), they took no additional shots at us.

Sachmo's armored car on the road popped off two shots (which missed, unfortunately) at the T-26, then dashed ahead to the cover of the building. The T-26 (now confirmed) tracked that AC but did not fire; he is no longer spotted by any of our units.

This situation is becoming a little unnerving. We've got good lines of sight all over the field, but have nothing spotted. Somewhere there are a butt-load of Russians waiting to pounce. Be careful on your approaches! It may be wise to get our mortars and artillery spotter positioned in some good spot sooner rather than later, so they can cover the advance as needed.

I'll try to have some pics up later tonight.
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Old 01-27-2004, 08:56 AM   #133
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I'd like to have #2 scout and the command scout car try to flank the Russian position, to see how they are deployed on the wing.
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Old 01-27-2004, 09:06 AM   #134
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I'd like to have #2 scout and the command scout car try to flank the Russian position, to see how they are deployed on the wing.
North flank?

Also, do you want the other two ACs to hold their positions?
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Old 01-27-2004, 09:35 AM   #135
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Unless someone convinces me it's a good idea to advance, I'd rather stay my tanks where we are until we get more sightings.
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Old 01-27-2004, 09:59 AM   #136
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Unless someone convinces me it's a good idea to advance, I'd rather stay my tanks where we are until we get more sightings.
Yeah, I think DataKing might want to run his infantry boys up into that next line of woods to see what's afoot.

However, you may want to advance cautiously and/or seek out hull-down positions. Since this is a German probe mission the burden of advance is on us, and we only have a limited amount of time to reach the objectives.

The game offers three movement types for tanks that might be useful here:

(a) seek hull down (the tank stops when it reaches a hull-down position)
(b) advance to contact (the tank stops once any enemy unit is spotted)
(c) hunt (the tank seeks out armor and anti-tank targets and stops only if it finds any)
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Old 01-27-2004, 10:29 AM   #137
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Yes I would like my other two cars to hold position.
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Old 01-27-2004, 10:48 AM   #138
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Awaiting DataKing's orders, but my boys are ready to advance...
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Old 01-27-2004, 10:56 AM   #139
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Awaiting DataKing's orders, but my boys are ready to advance...
Based on the pics in my post #93, any thoughts on where to go? That is a wooden fence due east of your position, so you'll want to avoid that if you are aiming to move quickly (although it can be navigated, just slower).
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Old 01-27-2004, 11:01 AM   #140
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Hey WSU, how far across the field did my boys get, and did i take Calis' guys with me?
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Old 01-27-2004, 11:08 AM   #141
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Based on the pics in my post #93, any thoughts on where to go? That is a wooden fence due east of your position, so you'll want to avoid that if you are aiming to move quickly (although it can be navigated, just slower).

Based on the picture, it looks like my options to advance are through a clear spot or over the fense. If I head for the clearing, can I make it to the trees beyond the clearing relatively fast? I dont' want to leave the squad wide open for long...
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Old 01-27-2004, 11:31 AM   #142
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Based on the picture, it looks like my options to advance are through a clear spot or over the fense. If I head for the clearing, can I make it to the trees beyond the clearing relatively fast? I dont' want to leave the squad wide open for long...
Heh, that's the key issue, isn't it? A quick dash might work, but exposure is certainly a concern. You could run to cross the fence, since it is more screened by woods. That wheat field also offers a bit of cover. It may also depend on samifan24's line of advance.

Blade6119, your Pz-IIIs moved out a short distance toward the area of that building, and did not pick-up Calis' squads. The fact that your tanks didn't spot anything or even draw fire is one of the oddities to me. I'd recommend a slow & cautious advance to hull-down positions and await the infantry.
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Old 01-27-2004, 12:13 PM   #143
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Yeah, I think DataKing might want to run his infantry boys up into that next line of woods to see what's afoot.

However, you may want to advance cautiously and/or seek out hull-down positions. Since this is a German probe mission the burden of advance is on us, and we only have a limited amount of time to reach the objectives.

The game offers three movement types for tanks that might be useful here:

(a) seek hull down (the tank stops when it reaches a hull-down position)
(b) advance to contact (the tank stops once any enemy unit is spotted)
(c) hunt (the tank seeks out armor and anti-tank targets and stops only if it finds any)

ok.. we'll advance but seek hull down
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Old 01-27-2004, 12:16 PM   #144
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Heh, that's the key issue, isn't it? A quick dash might work, but exposure is certainly a concern. You could run to cross the fence, since it is more screened by woods. That wheat field also offers a bit of cover. It may also depend on samifan24's line of advance.

Ok, my thought is that I would rather cross the fence, but I will wait and see what DataKing would suggest, and what samifan24 decides to do...
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Old 01-27-2004, 01:43 PM   #145
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Blade6119, your Pz-IIIs moved out a short distance toward the area of that building, and did not pick-up Calis' squads. The fact that your tanks didn't spot anything or even draw fire is one of the oddities to me. I'd recommend a slow & cautious advance to hull-down positions and await the infantry.

Roger that commander...you have my orders
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Old 01-27-2004, 01:56 PM   #146
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Heh, that's the key issue, isn't it? A quick dash might work, but exposure is certainly a concern. You could run to cross the fence, since it is more screened by woods. That wheat field also offers a bit of cover. It may also depend on samifan24's line of advance.

Blade6119, your Pz-IIIs moved out a short distance toward the area of that building, and did not pick-up Calis' squads. The fact that your tanks didn't spot anything or even draw fire is one of the oddities to me. I'd recommend a slow & cautious advance to hull-down positions and await the infantry.

Did I miss the new pics or something? Or have you just not sent them yet, or am I reading this wrong and the next turn hasn't been run?
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Old 01-27-2004, 01:58 PM   #147
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Put me someplace where I won't get bombed the hell out of. Possibly next to Golden Eagle so they'll take him out.

Seriously though, I'm not too partial to where I go, it's been pretty slow for me
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Old 01-27-2004, 02:05 PM   #148
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Did I miss the new pics or something? Or have you just not sent them yet, or am I reading this wrong and the next turn hasn't been run?
Naw, I just haven't sent them yet. I'll e-mail them tonight.

I wanted to get the Turn 3 results up ASAP so we could get the input for Turn 4 rolling.
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Old 01-27-2004, 02:42 PM   #149
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Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: NC
Blade,

I understand my orders are to advance along the flank. I'm ready to serve as a contact point along that flank if that's the role you'd like me to serve. Just let me know.
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Old 01-27-2004, 07:43 PM   #150
WSUCougar
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Location: Port Angeles, WA or Helm's Deep
Blade:
I looked at your position again and you are actually a bit farther north than I thought. Due east of you is the northern end of the fence. Sir Fozzie's Pz-IVd's are in prime position to support you if you want to dash around the fence and then head for the woods on the other side. There is a significant hill/slope to your northeast which should cover that flank when you move out.
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