WW CXLVIII - Ancient Infection - EVIL WINS! - Page 3

Danny · 06-03-2012, 11:55 AM

Happy birthday Narc!

JAG · 06-03-2012, 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Narcizo

Just reread the rules. Woh! This could be crazy. Get people signed up and lets roll.

I'm pretty excited for this game. And happy birthday to you.

Narcizo · 06-03-2012, 12:50 PM

Cheers Guys.

I've gotten to the age where I tend to ignore my birthdays and get my vicarious birthday thrills through my kids. But thank you anyway.

Narcizo · 06-03-2012, 12:52 PM

Autumn, PM Abe and tell him that the game is based on some obscure D&D ruleset. That should hook him in.

cougarfreak · 06-03-2012, 03:22 PM

I'll give it a shot.

Narcizo · 06-03-2012, 03:30 PM

Get them thar roles out tonight Autumn so I have something to do tomorrow morning.

JAG · 06-03-2012, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by cougarfreak

I'll give it a shot.

Cool, good to see you back.

Autumn · 06-03-2012, 05:26 PM

Awesome. I'm going to conscript Jackal then, unless someone comes to steal his spot this evening.

Narc, I wish I could get them out tonight, but I'm going to be out at a friend's (playing Fiasco, which is awesome). If I happen to get back early and am awake I will try, but they likely won't go out until during the day tomorrow.

Autumn · 06-03-2012, 05:30 PM

I will see what I can do about tonight though. So please be ready for a possible start tonight and a Monday 9 pm EST deadline. If I dont get back soon enough tonight, first deadline will be Tuesday 9 pm and roles will go out in the morning.

Danny · 06-03-2012, 05:36 PM

Just in case we start tonight and I don't get on

Vote Hoopsguy

cougarfreak · 06-03-2012, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by JAG

Cool, good to see you back.

I still have a hard time wrapping my head around some of these games, but I'm off of school, so I have some time.

Autumn · 06-03-2012, 10:03 PM

All right, I'm going to sign Jackal up and end signups. I'll work on getting roles out now.

I will post here when roles are all out and game has begun.

Danny · 06-03-2012, 10:45 PM

I just realized Hoops is not playing. Voting him was my reason for signing up, so I am out.

Danny · 06-03-2012, 10:46 PM

Out of this world awesome that is!

Autumn · 06-03-2012, 11:03 PM

Passacaglia, you're pulling a Crimson Fox. By which I mean your PM box is full.

Danny · 06-03-2012, 11:06 PM

Autumn · 06-03-2012, 11:07 PM

Allow me to remind everyone of a few things.

Read the rules!

This game will include conversion of players from one team to the other. The spirit of the game is to play for the side you are currently on. So while an Infected has a chance of being cured and brought back to the other side, they should try to make all decisions while Infected with the benefit of the Evil team in mind.

Read the rules!

Deadlines will be 9pm EST for lynch vote, 10pm EST for Night actions. Reasonable conditional orders will be accepted.

There are no roles or rules that are not spelled out on the first page. Feel free to ask for clarifications of rules, it's quite a different set.

Autumn · 06-03-2012, 11:11 PM

All roles have been sent. Please let me know if you didn't get one, or have any questions.

Game is on. First deadline is Monday, 9 PM EST.

Danny · 06-03-2012, 11:15 PM

SO only the infected make kills? The mummy and transformed do not?

Autumn · 06-03-2012, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny

SO only the infected make kills? The mummy and transformed do not?

Correct.

Passacaglia · 06-03-2012, 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Autumn

All roles have been sent. Please let me know if you didn't get one, or have any questions.

Game is on. First deadline is Monday, 9 PM EST.

I didn't get a PM!!!!!

Darth Vilus · 06-04-2012, 12:02 AM

I guess it's time to read the rules now

bhlloy · 06-04-2012, 12:17 AM

You and me both

britrock88 · 06-04-2012, 12:29 AM

So we have 4 evil to start (though the count is 3:16). Time for full disclosure?

Danny · 06-04-2012, 12:43 AM

Nah think we have 3 evil to start

Danny · 06-04-2012, 12:45 AM

But i got the herpes role, i infect everyone i vote for.

Sp tp start
Vote crimson

Danny · 06-04-2012, 12:45 AM

Unvote crimson
Vote jag

Danny · 06-04-2012, 12:46 AM

Unvote jag
Vote chief rum

Three players have the herpes now

Narcizo · 06-04-2012, 01:12 AM

It's alright everyone! I'm here to save the day.

There are 4 evils - Mummy, 2 transformed and the cultist. The Mummy knows who the other three are, the transformed know each other and, I guess, the cultist doesn't know any of the others.

Autumn, does the cultist know the identity of any of the other evils?

Anyroad. I've a feeling that this is going to be a role-driven game. And there is no bodyguard so we need to avoid having anyone reveal. So we should just lynch bad guys or, at a pinch vanillas.

Narcizo · 06-04-2012, 01:29 AM

I was tempted by the idea that a no-lynch would be the best policy on day one, but in retrospect I don't think so.

Positives to no lynch:
Avoid pressuring roled villagers into a reveal
Mummy can double an evil vote, so has better chance of steering a vote
Multiple conversion possibilities make voting records less useful

Negative to no lynch:
Nothing to go on on day one, thus not much for the seers and seer-lites to work with
Evil have incomplete information on each other so they will be less able to save themselves if we luck onto a baddy.

I think that the negatives outweigh the postives in this (and most other) cases.

The Mummy double vote probably means that we need to create some space between the vote winner and second-place. People around at deadline will have to step up - I bet nickle to dimes that the mummy would love to turn a village-village contest into a tie to get us chasing our tails for a turn or two.

CrimsonFox · 06-04-2012, 01:30 AM

Danny, Danny, wherefore art thou Danny?

CrimsonFox · 06-04-2012, 01:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny

But i got the herpes role, i infect everyone i vote for.

Sp tp start
Vote crimson

ick! I got Danny cooties!

CrimsonFox · 06-04-2012, 02:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Autumn

Passacaglia, you're pulling a Crimson Fox. By which I mean your PM box is full.

Well sure, that's what that is HERE.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

I didn't get a PM!!!!!

HA ha!

JAG · 06-04-2012, 04:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Narcizo

So we should just lynch bad guys or, at a pinch vanillas.

That's a plan I can get behind, though I think it's better if we lynch a bad guy. Only 10% odds of picking a Transformed today, but if we get lucky, we can take one out before they infect anyone.

There are going to be all sorts of irregularities with voting since the Mummy is able to boost a bad guy's votes and infected people don't have a vote until they make a night kill (though we won't have to worry about that today). I think there was another voting oddity but I can't recall.

Narcizo · 06-04-2012, 04:15 AM

Hopefully the business with infected not getting a vote will help us/the nurses narrow down the field on the infected.

Not actually 10% chance of getting a transformed of course, as the other transformed and the double-voting mummy might be able to help out but still. Better yet (almost) 5% chance of finding the mummy.

JAG · 06-04-2012, 04:25 AM

We don't have to worry about a double vote for today though:

Quote:

Each night, starting N1, The Mummy may select either himself or one of his two Transformed to boost a vote.

JAG · 06-04-2012, 04:28 AM

Autumn, does anything happen if the Transformed bite the Mummy?

Narcizo · 06-04-2012, 04:31 AM

Aha. Missed that.

Raiders Army · 06-04-2012, 04:35 AM

Checking in. Will be gone for most of the day. I'll vote when I get home tonight, probably around 7-8 EDT.

Raiders Army · 06-04-2012, 04:38 AM

[b]VOTE CRIMSONFOX[\b]

Placeholder.

Raiders Army · 06-04-2012, 04:39 AM

Damn phone.

VOTE CRIMSONFOX

The Jackal · 06-04-2012, 06:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JAG

Autumn, does anything happen if the Transformed bite the Mummy?

"Transformed will not be informed whether their bite was successful."

My guess is no.

The Jackal · 06-04-2012, 06:18 AM

This is an awesome ruleset, let the chaos ensue

The Jackal · 06-04-2012, 06:19 AM

Best case scenario: We lynch a transformed D1?

The Jackal · 06-04-2012, 06:21 AM

VOTE ZINTO

Autumn · 06-04-2012, 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Narcizo

Autumn, does the cultist know the identity of any of the other evils?

The cultist does not.

Autumn · 06-04-2012, 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JAG

Autumn, does anything happen if the Transformed bite the Mummy?

They get a dry, crusty sensation in their mouth. But no, nothing happens.

Autumn · 06-04-2012, 07:51 AM

Also, good morning.

britrock88 · 06-04-2012, 08:18 AM

For now, I'll just pick on people who have stated something about the rules incorrectly to see if they're trying to lead us astray.

VOTE DANNY

That said, we have a 15% chance of success (between the two transformed and the cultist), which is pretty meager. So if I help make a no-lynch happen later in the day, I'm okay with that.

Narcizo · 06-04-2012, 08:27 AM

Vote Britrock

a) wolves are less likely to post/make rule slip-ups.
b) ~20% chance of success. Even if we can't lynch the Mummy we can find out that they are the mummy, which is pretty useful. Look! Irony!
c) You will NOT help a no lynch vote happen, thank you very much.

06-03-2012, 03:22 PM	#105
cougarfreak College Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Out of Grad School Hell :)	I'll give it a shot. __________________ “I don’t like the Cubs,” Joey Votto said. “And I’m not going to pat anybody with a Cubs uniform on the back."

06-03-2012, 11:06 PM	#116
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Wolf

06-03-2012, 11:11 PM	#118
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	All roles have been sent. Please let me know if you didn't get one, or have any questions. Game is on. First deadline is Monday, 9 PM EST. Last edited by Autumn : 06-03-2012 at 11:11 PM.

06-04-2012, 12:02 AM	#122
Darth Vilus College Benchwarmer Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: SoCal	I guess it's time to read the rules now __________________ "Two there should be; no more, no less. One to embody power, the other to crave it." ―Darth Bane "Tell me what you regard as your greatest strength, so I will know how best to undermine you; tell me of your greatest fear, so I will know which I must force you to face; tell me what you cherish most, so I will know what to take from you; and tell me what you crave, so that I might deny you…" ―Darth Plagueis the Wise

06-03-2012, 11:55 AM	#101
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Happy birthday Narc!

06-03-2012, 12:50 PM	#103
Narcizo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006	Cheers Guys. I've gotten to the age where I tend to ignore my birthdays and get my vicarious birthday thrills through my kids. But thank you anyway.

06-03-2012, 12:52 PM	#104
Narcizo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006	Autumn, PM Abe and tell him that the game is based on some obscure D&D ruleset. That should hook him in.

06-03-2012, 03:30 PM	#106
Narcizo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006	Get them thar roles out tonight Autumn so I have something to do tomorrow morning.

06-03-2012, 05:26 PM	#108
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	Awesome. I'm going to conscript Jackal then, unless someone comes to steal his spot this evening. Narc, I wish I could get them out tonight, but I'm going to be out at a friend's (playing Fiasco, which is awesome). If I happen to get back early and am awake I will try, but they likely won't go out until during the day tomorrow.

06-03-2012, 05:30 PM	#109
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	I will see what I can do about tonight though. So please be ready for a possible start tonight and a Monday 9 pm EST deadline. If I dont get back soon enough tonight, first deadline will be Tuesday 9 pm and roles will go out in the morning.

06-03-2012, 05:36 PM	#110
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Just in case we start tonight and I don't get on Vote Hoopsguy

06-03-2012, 10:03 PM	#112
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	All right, I'm going to sign Jackal up and end signups. I'll work on getting roles out now. I will post here when roles are all out and game has begun.

06-03-2012, 10:45 PM	#113
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	I just realized Hoops is not playing. Voting him was my reason for signing up, so I am out.

06-03-2012, 10:46 PM	#114
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Out of this world awesome that is!

06-03-2012, 11:03 PM	#115
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	Passacaglia, you're pulling a Crimson Fox. By which I mean your PM box is full.

06-03-2012, 11:07 PM	#117
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	Allow me to remind everyone of a few things. Read the rules! This game will include conversion of players from one team to the other. The spirit of the game is to play for the side you are currently on. So while an Infected has a chance of being cured and brought back to the other side, they should try to make all decisions while Infected with the benefit of the Evil team in mind. Read the rules! Deadlines will be 9pm EST for lynch vote, 10pm EST for Night actions. Reasonable conditional orders will be accepted. There are no roles or rules that are not spelled out on the first page. Feel free to ask for clarifications of rules, it's quite a different set.

06-03-2012, 11:15 PM	#119
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	SO only the infected make kills? The mummy and transformed do not?

06-04-2012, 12:17 AM	#123
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	You and me both

06-04-2012, 12:29 AM	#124
britrock88 Pro Starter Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Madison, WI	So we have 4 evil to start (though the count is 3:16). Time for full disclosure?

06-04-2012, 12:43 AM	#125
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Nah think we have 3 evil to start

06-04-2012, 12:45 AM	#126
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	But i got the herpes role, i infect everyone i vote for. Sp tp start Vote crimson

06-04-2012, 12:45 AM	#127
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Unvote crimson Vote jag

06-04-2012, 12:46 AM	#128
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Unvote jag Vote chief rum Three players have the herpes now

06-04-2012, 01:12 AM	#129
Narcizo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006	It's alright everyone! I'm here to save the day. There are 4 evils - Mummy, 2 transformed and the cultist. The Mummy knows who the other three are, the transformed know each other and, I guess, the cultist doesn't know any of the others. Autumn, does the cultist know the identity of any of the other evils? Anyroad. I've a feeling that this is going to be a role-driven game. And there is no bodyguard so we need to avoid having anyone reveal. So we should just lynch bad guys or, at a pinch vanillas.

06-04-2012, 01:29 AM	#130
Narcizo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006	I was tempted by the idea that a no-lynch would be the best policy on day one, but in retrospect I don't think so. Positives to no lynch: Avoid pressuring roled villagers into a reveal Mummy can double an evil vote, so has better chance of steering a vote Multiple conversion possibilities make voting records less useful Negative to no lynch: Nothing to go on on day one, thus not much for the seers and seer-lites to work with Evil have incomplete information on each other so they will be less able to save themselves if we luck onto a baddy. I think that the negatives outweigh the postives in this (and most other) cases. The Mummy double vote probably means that we need to create some space between the vote winner and second-place. People around at deadline will have to step up - I bet nickle to dimes that the mummy would love to turn a village-village contest into a tie to get us chasing our tails for a turn or two.

06-04-2012, 01:30 AM	#131
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	Danny, Danny, wherefore art thou Danny?

06-04-2012, 04:15 AM	#135
Narcizo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006	Hopefully the business with infected not getting a vote will help us/the nurses narrow down the field on the infected. Not actually 10% chance of getting a transformed of course, as the other transformed and the double-voting mummy might be able to help out but still. Better yet (almost) 5% chance of finding the mummy.

06-04-2012, 04:28 AM	#137
JAG Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: St. Paul, MN	Autumn, does anything happen if the Transformed bite the Mummy?

06-04-2012, 04:31 AM	#138
Narcizo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006	Aha. Missed that.

06-04-2012, 04:35 AM	#139
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	Checking in. Will be gone for most of the day. I'll vote when I get home tonight, probably around 7-8 EDT.

06-04-2012, 04:38 AM	#140
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	[b]VOTE CRIMSONFOX[\b] Placeholder.

06-04-2012, 04:39 AM	#141
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	Damn phone. VOTE CRIMSONFOX

06-04-2012, 06:18 AM	#143
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	This is an awesome ruleset, let the chaos ensue

06-04-2012, 06:19 AM	#144
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	Best case scenario: We lynch a transformed D1?