Werewolf: XIV Spawn (GAME OVER! Please give feedback)

[SnDvls]

does anyone here absolutely trust Dubb, Vince, Penny, RealDeal, or Raiders?

[SnDvls]

unvote Dubb

[dubb93]

Originally Posted by Raiders Army

!!!!!!!

God I wish you could talk. Why the fuck did you have to examine me today.

[Mr. Wednesday]

I don't know exactly what happened with Vince last night, but I believe the results of RealDeal's scan, which means that up until scanning Raiders Army, Vince was clean.

Vote dubb93

I'll try to check back in before the vote just in case a better option is presented.

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by Raiders Army

!!!!!!!

You hinting at something buddy??? two for yes

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by SnDvls

does anyone here absolutely trust Dubb, Vince, Penny, RealDeal, or Raiders?

To be honest, the only person I trust is AE right now.

I'm going to

Unvote Dubb

For now. I might go back later, as some people have made great points against him, but I'm starting to think the points against Vince are pretty strong as well.

[dubb93]

One unvotes me and then one votes me with no evidence! BTW, according to the rules spawn may be able to keep their hidden roles, so I don't fully buy Real Deal's I can't be spawn ploy. If they "may" be able to keep them upon conversion I see no reason they can't be given them from the get go.

[Fouts]

Originally Posted by Mr. Wednesday

I don't know exactly what happened with Vince last night, but I believe the results of RealDeal's scan, which means that up until scanning Raiders Army, Vince was clean.

Vote dubb93

I'll try to check back in before the vote just in case a better option is presented.

If we are correct and Vince turns out to be a spawn, RealDeal jumps to the top of my list.

[Mr. Wednesday]

RealDeal is telling the truth about his examination of Vince and the results.

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by Mr. Wednesday

RealDeal is telling the truth about his examination of Vince and the results.

And how do we know this?

[Raiders Army]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

You hinting at something buddy??? two for yes

!!

[kingfc22]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

And how do we know this?

Yes, Mr. W would you like to elaborate on that.

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by Mr. Wednesday

RealDeal is telling the truth about his examination of Vince and the results.

Either you have an ability we don't know of, or something fishy's going on.

[Mr. Wednesday]

I am an empath, and I checked on the veracity of his statement that he scanned Passacaglia and Vince and found them to be clean. I concluded that he was telling the truth.

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by Mr. Wednesday

I am an empath, and I checked on the veracity of his statement that he scanned Passacaglia and Vince and found them to be clean. I concluded that he was telling the truth.

Ahhh. Ok, that helps.

[Raiders Army]

Unfortunately fellas, I gotta go. Gotta eat dinner, get the kids showered, and then get ready for the game. Good luck everyone!

[Mr. Wednesday]

Empathic May PM the GM to verify truth of one complete sentence said by another person in the public thread. The GM will respond with either "True, False, or Unknown" based on the GM's understanding of the statement. This may be used twice per game. There is a 50-50 chance that a person will keep this ability if they become Spawn.

Per game rules.

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by Raiders Army

!!

God damnit, its not gonig to change towards me but im betting your implying were right about vince...at least i hope...DAMNIT RAIDERS, COME OUT OF YOUR COMA!!!!

[Blade6119]

this seems wayyy sketch, but for a few minutes ill be quiet...seems like a lot of role reveals and work to protect vince, and im not sure i buy all them...seems odd, but ill bite my toungue for around 2 minutes

[saldana]

Originally Posted by pennywisesb

I agree, Mr. W., Saldana, and Fouts, do any of you guys have anything to add? New ideas, agreements with previously posted ideas, anything?

i think you have me confused with someone else, i have been posting all day long, i just havent put in my two cents on the vote issue because yesterday, i ended up on the wrong side, and dont want to make a mistake again...if it looks like i have been lurking, its just cuz i didnt close the page when i walked away from my computer

[kingfc22]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

this seems wayyy sketch, but for a few minutes ill be quiet...seems like a lot of role reveals and work to protect vince, and im not sure i buy all them...seems odd, but ill bite my toungue for around 2 minutes

Yea, I was just about to post that Mr. W and RealDeal have both claimed private roles that neatly cover each other's story while protecting Vince. Just a lot of odd things happening around Vince, IMO.

[pennywisesb]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

if it succeded, why tell us...in past games when guys get converted they dont tell us...the guy he attacked is prob one of the guys supporting the vote on dubb now...hell, one of them is in a coma

Ok, to support Blade here, since it seems things are getting thrown in disarray, if Vince did attack someone, and they then became a spawn, there would be no reason for them to come forward to try to get healed because Vince (the Dr.) would be the only one who could heal them. I'm starting to lean towards Vince actually attacking RA and putting him into a coma at this point. Unvote Dubb

[Mr. Wednesday]

Unvote dubb

There's a lot of interesting stuff going on here... and while I'm sure that Vince is OK, I'm not so sure about who I should be blaming.

[Fouts]

Until Vince's exhaustion is explained, I cannot change my vote from him. I have no inside information, but this is a huge "I am a spawn" arrow that is pointing right at him.

[pennywisesb]

Jees. This is like a damn roller coaster ride!

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by Fouts

Until Vince's exhaustion is explained, I cannot change my vote from him. I have no inside information, but this is a huge "I am a spawn" arrow that is pointing right at him.

lol, vince will prob. claim to have a secret role to defend himself...everyone else seems to have pulled one out in his favor...i just dont get how soo many people know these secret roles, as i have no idea what mine is

[saldana]

since i know vince wont be back for a while i will throw this out there, however i cannot explain why he didnt say it himself

if vince were attacked last night and has the trait of "light sleeper", it would explain why he was able to survive the attack(he would become resistant when he was woken up), and there is a chance he could become exhausted from defending himself.

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by saldana

since i know vince wont be back for a while i will throw this out there, however i cannot explain why he didnt say it himself

if vince were attacked last night and has the trait of "light sleeper", it would explain why he was able to survive the attack(he would become resistant when he was woken up), and there is a chance he could become exhausted from defending himself.

if that were the case it would have happened two night ago when he was first attacked, not this time...vince already said he was infected the first time he was attacked

[Mr. Wednesday]

It also could happen if he had the "slayer" trait.

[Mr. Wednesday]

Er, I was incorrect about Slayer, he would not become exhausted from that. But if Vince is a light sleeper,

Light Sleeper If attacked by Spawn, the character gains the status "Resistant". If used, may cause exhaustion. (See Status Resistant below).

(emphasis mine)

[pennywisesb]

So many votes have been cast and changed does anyone have a running talley at this point?

[Barkeep49]

When King comes out of his office with that look on his face the crew looks to see which officer he will be "talking" to today. But instead he heads towards Hoopsguy. The two adjourn into the interrogration room and out of the earshot of the public.

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by Mr. Wednesday

Er, I was incorrect about Slayer, he would not become exhausted from that. But if Vince is a light sleeper,
(emphasis mine)

Still doesnt explain why he wouldnt be exhausted after he was attacked the first time...he wouldnt suddenly be exhausted now, it would happen last time

[kingfc22]

Just noticed that Vince and Passacaglia were the first two to cast votes and both voted for pennywise who was in the brig with Vince last night. RealDeal scanned both of these two.

Just putting that info out there.

Unvote Dubb

[Mr. Wednesday]

Read it again.

He may become exhausted if it is used. Or he may not.

[kingfc22]

Today's recap:

Command Staff
Captain - ardent enthusiast (chosen for long away mission, votes for Liftoff)
First Officer – Kwhit (leads long away mission)
Second Officer – RealDeal (scans Vince and Passacaglia and says both are clean – claims duplicant role, promotes Passacaglia)
Security Chief - Kingfc22 EXHAUSTED (spied on jeff at night, chosen for long away mission, interrogates Hoops)
Ensign – Lathum (chosen for long away mission)

Engineers
Saldana (chosen for long away mission)
Mr.Wednesday (chosen for long away mission, claims empath role - says RealDeal is telling the truth)
MrBug708 (chosen for long away mission)
jeff061 (chosen for long away mission)
Bek (chosen for long away mission)

Medical Staff
Doctor - Vince EXHAUSTED (scans RA)
Nurse - Raiders Army (scans dub – no report, is unconscious after scan by Vince)

Security Staff
Sergeant at Arms - sndlvs EXHAUSTED (defended water plant at night, hands out phasers, has phaser)
Warden - Blade6119 (has phaser)
Galley Master - hoopsguy EXHAUSTED (defended water plant at night, has phaser, (chosen for long away mission)
Security Crewman - Fouts EXHAUSTED (defended engine room at night, as phaser, (chosen for long away mission)
Security Crewman - Schmidty EXHAUSTED (protected AE at night, has phaser, (chosen for long away mission)

Scientist
dubb93 (chosen for long away mission)

Privates
pennywisesb (chosen for long away mission)
Passacaglia (chosen for long away mission, promoted to Security Crewman by RealDeal)

[Mr. Wednesday]

RealDeal scanned both and found them to be clean. I didn't think it was especially likely that RealDeal would try to fake something like that, but some outrageous fakes have been done in WW games and it was starting to look important, so I decided to use one of my two checks to see if he was telling the truth. I concluded that he was.

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

When King comes out of his office with that look on his face the crew looks to see which officer he will be "talking" to today. But instead he heads towards Hoopsguy. The two adjourn into the interrogration room and out of the earshot of the public.

Well thats interesting...didnt see hoops even on my radar...but i like the move

So far im starting to trust:
Kwhit
Kingfc
Dubb
Fouts(starting too)

people i want to know soo much more about:
Raiders and his damn hints...hes getting at something here boys, and i think its vince attacked him and put him in the coma

People i dont trust:
Vince
RealDeal
Mr. Wednesday

people im suspicious of for a lack of activity:
Bek
Lathum
up until recently W was here

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by kingfc22

Just noticed that Vince and Passacaglia were the first two to cast votes and both voted for pennywise who was in the brig with Vince last night. RealDeal scanned both of these two.

Just putting that info out there.

Unvote Dubb

King keeps gaining my trust...he might be my #1 now

[pennywisesb]

Originally Posted by kingfc22

Just noticed that Vince and Passacaglia were the first two to cast votes and both voted for pennywise who was in the brig with Vince last night. RealDeal scanned both of these two.

Just putting that info out there.

Unvote Dubb

What are you trying to say here?

[kingfc22]

blade, I think you meant that passacaglia was scanned.

[Mr. Wednesday]

He's trying to say that there's a big huge chain of people who are vouching for each other, and it could be suspicious. You'd need to believe that there are at least four spawn presently; it's possible, but I think it's on the high end of the likely count.

[Fouts]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

When King comes out of his office with that look on his face the crew looks to see which officer he will be "talking" to today. But instead he heads towards Hoopsguy. The two adjourn into the interrogration room and out of the earshot of the public.

So what are these interrogations about? Care to inform us King? Any results?

[RealDeal]

I didn't clear Penny. I cleared Pass. If Dubb is not spawn, then Penny is top of my list.

[Mr. Wednesday]

Let me throw something out here... when you're in the "bad guy" group, usually you're trying to keep a low profile. Does it not strain credibility that a group of four spawn would all work together to try to clear each other, when you know that if any one were taken down they would all be taken down? Maybe the current group would try a play like that, but it was never my strategy.

I think you guys should think about this carefully. On the bad guy side of things, usually it's worth burning one member to earn trust for the rest. You try to avoid making the kind of associations that I made to RealDeal, after he associated himself with Vince and Passacaglia.

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by Mr. Wednesday

He's trying to say that there's a big huge chain of people who are vouching for each other, and it could be suspicious. You'd need to believe that there are at least four spawn presently; it's possible, but I think it's on the high end of the likely count.

I think after we didnt kill anyone day one and i doubt they have attacked vince, were looking at maybe 2 to start, 3 converts, and one dead from marc...seems very likely to me we have 4

[pennywisesb]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

real deal cleared vince and penny, penny and vince were in the brig together, and vince accused penny of attacking him...the circle of trust isnt working there

Ok, so is this good for me or bad? I guess I'm not clear on what this implicates....

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by Mr. Wednesday

Let me throw something out here... when you're in the "bad guy" group, usually you're trying to keep a low profile. Does it not strain credibility that a group of four spawn would all work together to try to clear each other, when you know that if any one were taken down they would all be taken down? Maybe the current group would try a play like that, but it was never my strategy.

I think you guys should think about this carefully. On the bad guy side of things, usually it's worth burning one member to earn trust for the rest. You try to avoid making the kind of associations that I made to RealDeal, after he associated himself with Vince and Passacaglia.

i think thats true, and it was like that for awhile...until i accused vince and a few votes started changing...cant lose one of your key guys(i think hes the hive, but i dont know) so you sprung into action...you let marc go, you sacrificed him...you cant let another go, espcially not a key one like vince...of hes alive, some people will trust his fake scans...or his attacks if you count RA

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by pennywisesb

Ok, so is this good for me or bad? I guess I'm not clear on what this implicates....

I didnt say it right, if you read kings comments...but it implies their logic isnt connecting entirely...so yes, its good for you

[kingfc22]

Those in the brig last night: Vince, RA, Dubb and pennywise.

Vince claims he was attacked by one maybe 2 of those.
RA is unconscious and can't speak after a visit from Vince.

Vince and Passacaglia (both "cleared" by RealDeal) vote for pennywise to start things off.

RealDeal then promotes Passacaglia to security crewman.

Mr. W then comes out and says he has empath to validate RealDeals claim.

Dubb and Pennywise were both on away mission one which was a huge success.

I'm not accusing anybody, but something smells fishy here.