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Old 11-18-2005, 05:33 PM   #651
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So, an hour and a half to go and right now RPI is dying...im find it quite interesting how king and dubb have stopped arguing entirely now that their not really on the chopping block

Its hard to argue with someone who left for the night several hours ago. And I really don't trust the RPI bandwagon now that McSweeny is on it.
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Old 11-18-2005, 05:34 PM   #652
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Its hard to argue with someone who left for the night several hours ago. And I really don't trust the RPI bandwagon now that McSweeny is on it.

Hes not...he has tossed me into a loop
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Old 11-18-2005, 05:35 PM   #653
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seriously though

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Old 11-18-2005, 05:36 PM   #654
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a bandwagon? that's not a proper bandwagon!

UNVOTE RPI-FAN

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That is a move I pulled in the spawn game. Sure enough I was a spawn that game.
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Old 11-18-2005, 05:37 PM   #655
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and if that damn seer would take a look at me, we wouldn't be having these problems
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Old 11-18-2005, 05:38 PM   #656
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Hes not...he has tossed me into a loop

Oh come on ... he voted for himself. It's obviously not a real vote.
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Old 11-18-2005, 05:39 PM   #657
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A quick reminder, since it might come down to it -- the tiebreaker is that the person who got their first vote last dies. Thus, McSweeny dies first, then RPI-Fan, then kingfc22.
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Old 11-18-2005, 05:39 PM   #658
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Oh come on ... he voted for himself. It's obviously not a real vote.

Yah, but why even go that round when your really under suspicion...its not normal...either hes a cunning wolf trying to screw with us, or hes a villager and just doesnt care
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Old 11-18-2005, 05:40 PM   #659
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A quick reminder, since it might come down to it -- the tiebreaker is that the person who got their first vote last dies. Thus, McSweeny dies first, then RPI-Fan, then kingfc22.

Wouldnt RPI fan die first due to mcsweeney's switch back...mc only has two votes on him now, rpi 4 and king 2 also i thought
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Old 11-18-2005, 05:41 PM   #660
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Yah, but why even go that round when your really under suspicion...its not normal...either hes a cunning wolf trying to screw with us, or hes a villager and just doesnt care

calm down, it was just humor. you keep going on and on about me and bandwagons so i was poking fun at myself by hoping on the mcsweeny bandwagon
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Old 11-18-2005, 05:41 PM   #661
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Oh come on ... he voted for himself. It's obviously not a real vote.

I used it to stop a bandwagon against me once...it worked for a few hours, then failed miserably.
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Old 11-18-2005, 05:42 PM   #662
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RPI is lurking, should be interesting to hear what he has to say.
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Old 11-18-2005, 05:42 PM   #663
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Well RPI is here now, so i saw RPI or Mcsweeney dies...others i dont know about, but neither has helped us so far and both seem to do odd things
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Old 11-18-2005, 05:43 PM   #664
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Guys, I'm about to broadcast a hockey game (www.wrpi.org/wrpi.ram), but in intermissions I will try to catch up.

I guess now might be a good time to explain my actions. (I wnatd to wait at least another night, but that might be too long).

My strategy this game was to be an uber-agressive villager, the purpose being to get myself seen, and from that know who we/I might be able to trust. I don't want to call out the person who I believe is the seer, but I'm going to lean in on their suggestions (hoping they might have spotted a wolf), and:

UNVOTE KINGFC22

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Old 11-18-2005, 05:43 PM   #665
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Wouldnt RPI fan die first due to mcsweeney's switch back...mc only has two votes on him now, rpi 4 and king 2 also i thought
I was talking about ranking in the event of a tie. There was briefly a three-way tie at three votes between the three players I mentioned. Right now, it's McSweeny at two and RPI-Fan at four, but any of the other voters for RPI-Fan could switch away to McSweeny and recreate the tie.
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Old 11-18-2005, 05:44 PM   #666
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And that makes it three with two votes, RPI-Fan with four.
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Old 11-18-2005, 05:45 PM   #667
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Guys, I'm about to broadcast a hockey game (www.wrpi.org/wrpi.ram), but in intermissions I will try to catch up.

I guess now might be a good time to explain my actions. (I wnatd to wait at least another night, but that might be too long).

My strategy this game was to be an uber-agressive villager, the purpose being to get myself seen, and from that know who we/I might be able to trust. I don't want to call out the person who I believe is the seer, but I'm going to lean in on their suggestions (hoping they might have spotted a wolf), and:

UNVOTE KINGFC22

VOTE DUBB93


Clarification to come in about 50 minutes...

wow, not that route i expected him to take, and i pray to god he isnt right about the see as it wouldnt be too hard to connect the dots...im in full confusion mode now with mcsweeney's joke defense and rpi flat out avoiding it(to his defense, he says he will in 50 minutes, which conveniently is right aroudn the deadline)...i still say RPI or mcsweeney, but which i dont know
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Old 11-18-2005, 05:47 PM   #668
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Dubb is in between RPI-Fan and kingfc22 in vote age -- older than RPI-Fan, newer than kingfc22. Er, that's assuming we go by original vote and not any updates, otherwise it would be dubb the oldest (from barkeep) and kingfc22 newer.
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Old 11-18-2005, 05:47 PM   #669
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wow, not that route i expected him to take, and i pray to god he isnt right about the see as it wouldnt be too hard to connect the dots...im in full confusion mode now with mcsweeney's joke defense and rpi flat out avoiding it(to his defense, he says he will in 50 minutes, which conveniently is right aroudn the deadline)...i still say RPI or mcsweeney, but which i dont know

I'm so sorry about the deadline. Here is what my day was:

1) Haul my ass up at 5am, go to work from 6am-11am
2) Take a test from 12pm-2pm
3) Drive to Hamilton, NY from 2:30pm-5pm
4) Set-up for game from 5pm-til now, when I'm on the air...

Will jump back in before 8pm (7:45 or so)
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Old 11-18-2005, 05:48 PM   #670
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How would anybody know who the seer is? Never mind, I don't want to know. I don't even want to SUSPECT who the seer is.
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Old 11-18-2005, 05:48 PM   #671
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welll....what does everyone think...??
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Old 11-18-2005, 05:49 PM   #672
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ok guys i'm heading out for the night. i'll probably be back late. I'm going to stick with my vote for RPI. If i get lynched tonight, take a hard look at who was pushing for me to get lynched, since they'll have sent an innocent man to the gallows
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Old 11-18-2005, 05:50 PM   #673
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The only thing I can come up with is he believes Barkeep is the seer, which I don't believe to be the case since he would have already scanned and cleared me, instead of voting for me.
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Old 11-18-2005, 05:50 PM   #674
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What's the vote count? If swinging my vote to McSweeny will keep me (a villager) alive, I'll do so. But I'd love to nab someone I'm more confident is a wolf tonight (see: my latest vote)
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Old 11-18-2005, 05:51 PM   #675
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I have no good ideas at this point, but what else is new? We've gotten a bit of vote swapping action, but not enough. RPI-Fan has gotten off of a bandwagon that could save his own hide (kingfc22) to try to start a new one (dubb). I know what you're doing. I can come close to condemning RPI-Fan, but I can't save him alone, and I'm not sure what I should ultimately do there either way.
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Old 11-18-2005, 05:53 PM   #676
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Old 11-18-2005, 05:54 PM   #677
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Double dola, RPI-Fan, you can't save yourself alone at this point. My vote may float, depending on how I feel about what I'm seeing heading into the deadline. I suspect that Blade's could be moved as well. It'll come down to whether either of us gets a good reason to vote for someone.
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Old 11-18-2005, 05:54 PM   #678
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I can switch my vote if someone else thinks a better target is there and can prove it...i dont think barkeep is seer, and i dont think king is a wolf yet....so i still say RPI or mcsweeney...but now dubb is looking good(not becuase of rpi or barkeep), but by how he defends himself and his switching today...i was sooo set like an hour ago...then all this
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Old 11-18-2005, 05:56 PM   #679
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Even if Barkeep *is* the seer, that doesn't make dubb a wolf. He may not have found a wolf yet. In other words, I'm just as lost as I was.

I think it's less that 50/50 that RPI is a wolf - and if he *is* a wolf, then I think probably McSweeny is too.
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Old 11-18-2005, 05:57 PM   #680
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VOTE DUBB93

I've been wavering between dubb and king, honestly. I just don't buy RPI being a wolf. I've never known a wolf to be that loud about things this early.

It's not a solid vote, so dubb, feel free to explain why I should change it.
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Old 11-18-2005, 05:58 PM   #681
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Ardent...you have been in the thread for like an hour and thats all you have to say??...i was expecting a mass post like the vampire game when fozzie won
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Old 11-18-2005, 06:03 PM   #682
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VOTE DUBB93

I've been wavering between dubb and king, honestly. I just don't buy RPI being a wolf. I've never known a wolf to be that loud about things this early.

It's not a solid vote, so dubb, feel free to explain why I should change it.

Read the thread is all I got to say, but a new bandwagon seems to be forming around RPI, Barkeep, and Ardent. I'm sure if King comes back in the thread that will be 4 against me, and none have given a solid reason for their vote yet. Every piece of evidence Barkeep has posted against me I've refuted perfectly, it just been him overlooking something, or not digging deep enough into the thread.

I'm clean guys, but something fishy is going on here.
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Old 11-18-2005, 06:03 PM   #683
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Old 11-18-2005, 06:04 PM   #684
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Things that make me go hmm... there hasn't been a lot of movement on RPI-Fan -- he picked up a bunch of early votes (which is understandable), then McSweeny voted for him late, and Blade switched away to McSweeny. Other than that, the voting has been pretty static. I don't like that, it suggests to me that the wolves are not feeling threatened, which seems a little odd with four different people on the block. The only definite villager to vote was st. cronin voting for RPI-Fan. The unmoving early votes make me a little wary of both kingfc22 and Raiders Army.
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Old 11-18-2005, 06:07 PM   #685
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Things that make me go hmm... there hasn't been a lot of movement on RPI-Fan -- he picked up a bunch of early votes (which is understandable), then McSweeny voted for him late, and Blade switched away to McSweeny. Other than that, the voting has been pretty static. I don't like that, it suggests to me that the wolves are not feeling threatened, which seems a little odd with four different people on the block. The only definite villager to vote was st. cronin voting for RPI-Fan. The unmoving early votes make me a little wary of both kingfc22 and Raiders Army.

The one ive been looking at is RPI and ardent going together...even in and out ardents been here awhile and he waited for RPI to move and he followed...then mcsweeney went quiet...everyone is just screwing with my head...i think either mc or RPI is a wolf, and if its the later i feel ardent is too..a lot of the early voters are gone though, like king who is gone for the night
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Old 11-18-2005, 06:12 PM   #686
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The one ive been looking at is RPI and ardent going together...even in and out ardents been here awhile and he waited for RPI to move and he followed...then mcsweeney went quiet...everyone is just screwing with my head...i think either mc or RPI is a wolf, and if its the later i feel ardent is too..a lot of the early voters are gone though, like king who is gone for the night

This is all a big IF, but IF RPI is a wolf, and he is the cunning wolf, that could explain Ardent blindly following him. B/C when RPI does he shows as a normal villager, and Ardent is all but cleared.
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Old 11-18-2005, 06:12 PM   #687
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The only thing I can come up with is he believes Barkeep is the seer, which I don't believe to be the case since he would have already scanned and cleared me, instead of voting for me.
Sez you. Sez someone else, he's the seer, scanned you, and thinks you're a wolf.
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Old 11-18-2005, 06:13 PM   #688
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Dola, I could talk myself into being pretty sure kingfc22 is a wolf right now (but also calling RPI-Fan into question as well in so doing). Trouble is, I could probably do something similar for most of the remaining players.
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Old 11-18-2005, 06:13 PM   #689
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Without accusing him outright, since he thinks i do it a lot, i feel ardent was the one that went on night one...dont know anything concrete, but it just feels right with their strat and how hes acted since
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Old 11-18-2005, 06:14 PM   #690
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RPI, you mean? Interesting thought you had there.
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Old 11-18-2005, 06:18 PM   #691
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RPI, you mean? Interesting thought you had there.

Actually no, ardent..i feel RPI was an original....i feel rpi is an original with sun, the third i dont know yet...night one they hit ardent and got a cursed one...night two fozzie....fozzie and ardent are both smart silent players, fits the mold...just where my mind is taking me right now
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Old 11-18-2005, 06:22 PM   #692
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I wouldn't say I've blindly followed him. RPI isn't in my circle of trust by far. However, I find it difficult to vote for him based on him being loud. Blade's nearly always loud, and I've cast votes against him in the past based on it. Nearly every time I've been wrong.

My circle includes Blade (ironically), barkeep, and hoops. I think both are providing some good "gouge" as we call it in the Navy. My vote for dubb is based more on what I feel barkeep has stated than anything. I'm a little concerned about trusting someone I've met in real life, though, as Coffee Warlord had me snowed, way snowed a game or two ago.

Dubb, I'll reconsider the vote for you. I'll reread your posts and see what I can come up with.
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Old 11-18-2005, 06:23 PM   #693
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My thinking is, I'd be after RA before I'd be after ardent.
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Old 11-18-2005, 06:23 PM   #694
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Dola, that's had I been a wolf.
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Old 11-18-2005, 06:25 PM   #695
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Actually no, ardent..i feel RPI was an original....i feel rpi is an original with sun, the third i dont know yet...night one they hit ardent and got a cursed one...night two fozzie....fozzie and ardent are both smart silent players, fits the mold...just where my mind is taking me right now

Thanks for the compliment, but I really don't think I'm good at this game. I never really know who to trust.

I'm a villager, blade. I'd stake hattrick supporter on it. Every time I've said that I have been a villager. I'm not lieing now.
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Old 11-18-2005, 06:29 PM   #696
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Sez you. Sez someone else, he's the seer, scanned you, and thinks you're a wolf.
I want to be clear. I am not claiming to be the seer.
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Old 11-18-2005, 06:29 PM   #697
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Well with half an hour left rpi has 4, dubb 3, king and mcsweeney 2....so i can swap to dubb or one of the rpi guys can swap...or we stay where we are...im inclined to take rpi before dubb, but ive been wrong with this strong feeling many times so id be happy to do what the group thinks is best
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Old 11-18-2005, 06:32 PM   #698
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Honestly, I'm wavering between king and dubb.
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Old 11-18-2005, 06:32 PM   #699
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I have confidence that RPI is human. Less so with dubb (obviously) and mcsweeney.
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Old 11-18-2005, 06:33 PM   #700
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Barkeep, any thoughts on kingfc22 or Raiders Army?
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