Alright boyz, here we go! FM 2010 first impressions thread

[Sweed]

FM demo is out early, downloading now from Steam. Damn have to go back to work but it will be waiting for me when I get home.

FM 2010 Gold Demo - Available Now! - Sports Interactive Community

Steam release is only about 3 hours away, almost time to play

[Flasch186]

shit.

[Sweed]

God I love Steam. Already 50% downloaded in approx 10 minutes. Won't have time to even open it up before having to go back to work. Maybe I can leave early?

[DaddyTorgo]

AWESOME!!!

guess i won't be playing civ IV tonight...lol

[DaddyTorgo]

maybe i can walk home on my lunch break, get my laptop, walk back, and download and install it while i'm at work this afternoon?

LOL

[Toddzilla]

The Vanilla demo downloads pretty quick...

Will the first person to get the demo installed please ping me - I want to show you something

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by Toddzilla

The Vanilla demo downloads pretty quick...

Will the first person to get the demo installed please ping me - I want to show you something

what? don't leave us in suspense!

[DaddyTorgo]

i want to take the rest of the day off...really badly

[Flasch186]

I cant get steam to DL it into it's client.

[Galaril]

For anyone that has been following this one's dev. Is the MLS fairly well represented? Can you play as an international team coach and schedule friendlies more easily. I remember a few versions back this was not well done but have not played in a couple of years since.

[watravaler]

How many "game" years can you play with the demo? Is it simply 6 months? If so, why do companies do this? It pisses me off, and I never buy the game! I love the "play full version for 3-10 days", those are the demos that always pull me in and force me to buy the game. Anyway, sorry for the rant, have fun y'all! I'm sure the game is beyond excellent, regardless of the limitations of the demo...

[SirFozzie]

I exited and reloaded steam and was able to install

MLS is not one of quickstarts that I can see, Galaril, so I can't give ya the good word.

[SirFozzie]

Originally Posted by watravaler

How many "game" years can you play with the demo? Is it simply 6 months? If so, why do companies do this? It pisses me off, and I never buy the game! I love the "play full version for 3-10 days", those are demos that always pull me in and force me to buy the game. Anyway, sorry for the rant, have fun y'all!

yes, it's six months. That's actually a long time with regards to thegame world, and it avoids having them risk having a full game out there that can be just hex-edited or otherwise cracked to avoid such 3-10 days thing.

[SirFozzie]

Started a demo as Birmingham (picked to just barely avoid relegation at 17th)

Man, I just signed Pablo Contreras, for 1.8 Million pounds, and the press conference was a fucking grilling, they look to really have expanded that.. got grilled multiple times if I thought this was a coup, etcetera, if I'm worried about spending such a large portion of my transfer funds on a player, could he be a flop, he doesn't speak english.. etc.. etc..

[watravaler]

Originally Posted by SirFozzie

yes, it's six months. That's actually a long time with regards to thegame world, and it avoids having them risk having a full game out there that can be just hex-edited or otherwise cracked to avoid such 3-10 days thing.

Never thought about the "crack" problem, makes sense...oh well...I'll probably buy it at the first price drop anyway.

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by watravaler

How many "game" years can you play with the demo? Is it simply 6 months? If so, why do companies do this? It pisses me off, and I never buy the game! I love the "play full version for 3-10 days", those are the demos that always pull me in and force me to buy the game. Anyway, sorry for the rant, have fun y'all! I'm sure the game is beyond excellent, regardless of the limitations of the demo...

typically copy protection reasons. in FM's case because otherwise people had cracked the copy protection of the demo to play forever and never purchased the game. that's what happened with SI's version of EHM and why its sales suffered.

[DaddyTorgo]

damn you foz for beating me to it. and double damn-you for being home and being able to play!

[SirFozzie]

FYVM*, DT, when I go to work in 20 minutes, I'm there till 10


* (yeah, it means what you think it means)

[DaddyTorgo]

hahaha - well that sucks!

you can IM with me all night and i'll tell you about new features and such if you want...

[DaddyTorgo]

you know what would be awesome? savegame compatability between FM (desktop) and FM (handheld).

[SirFozzie]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

hahaha - well that sucks!

you can IM with me all night and i'll tell you about new features and such if you want...

Can I feed you into a woodchipper set to puree instead?

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by SirFozzie

Can I feed you into a woodchipper set to puree instead?

or i wont if you want...

[SirFozzie]

Hee hee

BTW, nice new option under squad "Make available for Reserves until Match Fit"

[Oilers9911]

Originally Posted by watravaler

How many "game" years can you play with the demo? Is it simply 6 months? If so, why do companies do this? It pisses me off, and I never buy the game! I love the "play full version for 3-10 days", those are the demos that always pull me in and force me to buy the game. Anyway, sorry for the rant, have fun y'all! I'm sure the game is beyond excellent, regardless of the limitations of the demo...

If you can't get a feel for the game and make a decision based on 6 months of game time I don't know what to tell you. That is plenty of time.

[Ronnie Dobbs2]

6 months of game time in FM is also many many many hours of game time. I doubt I could really do 6 months in 3 to 10 days unless I barricaded myself in my room.

[DaddyTorgo]

i'll probably do 2 6 month mini-games between now and when the game is released. but i spend way too much time in front of my laptop

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by SirFozzie

Hee hee

BTW, nice new option under squad "Make available for Reserves until Match Fit"

i wonder if it'll work. i love that type of option.


i also wonder if leagues other than england (thinking italy where i love to play) will have legit reserve-leagues setup this time around

[Schmidty]

I've never gotten into the past games, but yet again, I'll give this one a try.

[Big Fo]

David Silva it tearing it up on his Man Utd debut. The 3D match engine looks a lot better, something I couldn't really tell from the small, low-quality youtube videos on the blog.

[Toddzilla]

On the main screen, click on Credits, and look at "Additional External Testing", the first name.

[cartman]

I like the redone interface. The calendar at the top is a nice feature.

[Marc Vaughan]

Originally Posted by watravaler

How many "game" years can you play with the demo? Is it simply 6 months? If so, why do companies do this? It pisses me off, and I never buy the game! I love the "play full version for 3-10 days", those are the demos that always pull me in and force me to buy the game. Anyway, sorry for the rant, have fun y'all! I'm sure the game is beyond excellent, regardless of the limitations of the demo...

FM isn't a game where you typically 'blast' through multiple seasons quickly - a six (game) month demo is equivalent to quite a few hours play through normal practice.

The reason for limiting the game in this manner is mainly to prevent pirates from hacking the game into a full version, simply put the demo has various parts of the codebase physically stripped from it (all the season updating code amongst other thing).

[Marc Vaughan]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

i wonder if it'll work. i love that type of option.
i also wonder if leagues other than england (thinking italy where i love to play) will have legit reserve-leagues setup this time around

Please bear in mind that those leagues without reserve leagues haven't got them for a very valid reason (ie. they don't have them irl).

[Galaril]

Originally Posted by Marc Vaughan

Please bear in mind that those leagues without reserve leagues haven't got them for a very valid reason (ie. they don't have them irl).

Marc, maybe you could elaborate a little on these two parts of the full game MLS and international play as a fulltime job in game.

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by Marc Vaughan

Please bear in mind that those leagues without reserve leagues haven't got them for a very valid reason (ie. they don't have them irl).

oh i know. it's just frustrating in some sense - i wish you could "set up a league for your reserve team" or something in those countries then. I mean what i end up doing usually is going and manually setting up a whole season's worth of scheduled games for my reserves in order to try to keep the guys match-fit.

i honestly don't know for certain, but i imagine teams in those countries must do the same sort of thing. the difference is that they have underlings to say "go arrange matches for our reserves against the local beer-league team" or whoever and it gets done. In FM I'm left scouring the country-lists for semi-pro teams to keep my reserve guys fit.

Either they should get "reserve team games" or my coaches should do a better job keeping them more game-fit. i dunno.

[Passacaglia]

I'm with ya, DT. If your assistant manager can schedule friendlies for your A team, why can't he schedule friendlies for the other squads?

Anyway, I'll be keeping an eye out. Since I'm a cheater, I'll only get it if there's some version of FM Scout.

[DaddyTorgo]

way to say what i was trying to say in about a million less words Pass.

I'm sure there'll be an FM-scout version out soon. Don't be a cheater though. Fay on you!

[path12]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

way to say what i was trying to say in about a million less words Pass.

I'm sure there'll be an FM-scout version out soon. Don't be a cheater though. Fay on you!

Who is Fay?

[MacroGuru]

Downloading now....I fly to MN tomorrow for work, I will play on my 2 plane flights I have...or until my battery dies.

[SirFozzie]

Originally Posted by path12

Who is Fay?

He means Fie on you!

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by path12

Who is Fay?

Fay is (was) my grandmother. I'm getting some slight pressure from the family to name our kid that if it's a girl. That's just not going to happen as a first name. As a middle name....we'll see, it's still not doing the kid any favors, plus we had been thinking of using lurker's last name as its middle name, and her family already has a middle name that they traditionally use. Sigh. How DT knew about any of that, though, is beyond me.

Anyway, none of the more recent versions have a good enough Scout program for my cheating needs, so I still play FM06.

[Icy]

I promised myself to not to download the demo, as it just makes more impatient about the real game but.... i'm downloading it at 1.2mbps (nice connection from steam btw).

There is something that i hate from FM demos and it's not the 6 months limit but that only quick starts are included.

I know you can continue your demo career in the final game, but the problem is that the demo only has quickstarts of one league, where you can't select the leagues you want to load, the database size etc.

Why can't you make all the create new game options available, but keeping the game ending after 6 months? You still will avoid piracy but we would be able to start new games that we can continue in the full version without any limitation, also testing the different database options.

FM requires you to invest a lot of time in your team, and i hate to start again in 15 days.

[Big Fo]

Originally Posted by Icy

FM requires you to invest a lot of time in your team, and i hate to start again in 15 days.

I skip a lot of the stuff I do when taking over a new team in the full game like hiring/firing staff and making my own training regimes. I just buy/sell a few players and play some matches.

[DaddyTorgo]

yeah - i don't spend as much time on a demo game start as a full game start. and even in the full game, my first game i usually just screw around until the first patch comes out.

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by SirFozzie

He means Fie on you!

yeah...yeah i do.

[DaddyTorgo]

the new UI is....wow. taking some getting used to.

[Flasch186]

so slow of a DL, cant get steam to DL it so Im doing the torrent thing and apparently so is the rest of the world.

[DaddyTorgo]

steam's not downloading? try exiting and restarting it...sometimes the text of the DL notification just seems to hang up

[sovereignstar]

At first glance, backroom advice is awesome.

[sovereignstar]

Don't forget to check out the dark skin that's included this go around!