The 2010 MLB Season Thread - Page 6

Ksyrup · 04-08-2010, 07:47 AM

Oh, and I have to say that as ridiculous and annoying as John Sterling's HR calls are, I don't think I've heard anything as stupid as his call of Granderson's HR last night. Something to the effect of, "Oh Curtis, you're kinda Grand-erson!" Give me a fucking break. Dude needs to be suspended for that kinda of shit.

lordscarlet · 04-08-2010, 08:55 AM

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So XM's Baseball station (175) has turned into MLB Network Radio starting this week. Unfortunately, they are keeping the new pairings intact for during the morning/day, then just running a radio feed of MLBN's nightly TV show after 6pm - which sucks, because it's a TV show, and they're showing highlights and saying stuff like, "Look at that catch!" I can't fuckface, I'm in my car.

Anyway, whoever thought giving Rob Dibble a morning show was a good idea can go to hell. I'm flipping stations between him and listening to crap on ESPN about Tiger Woods (WGAF)...so I end up on Raw Dog for comedy on my drive in to work pretty much every morning. Rob Dibble is a meathead ignoramous who knows less about baseball than nearly anyone who's ever played the game. He's terrible. He's like a combination of John Rocker and Joe Morgan. And he's the guy who is supposed to bring me up to speed on the previous day's games. GREAT! I really miss Scott Graham and Buck Martinez from last year - at least they walked through the games and were interesting. They change shows/partners WAY too much on that channel to be effective. Apparently they are run by the same people who ran Fox in the early 90s, when they would introduce 10 new shows a year and cancel 8 of them within 6 weeks.

OK, I'm done ranting.

Try having him as your color guy on your favorite team's tv broadcast... (Luckily I don' thave cable so I listen to the radio)

Lathum · 04-08-2010, 09:01 AM

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Oh, and I have to say that as ridiculous and annoying as John Sterling's HR calls are, I don't think I've heard anything as stupid as his call of Granderson's HR last night. Something to the effect of, "Oh Curtis, you're kinda Grand-erson!" Give me a fucking break. Dude needs to be suspended for that kinda of shit.

He is hands down the most unlistenable announcer in sports, yet all the idiot New Yorkers love him, he is such a hack.

Ksyrup · 04-08-2010, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by lordscarlet

Try having him as your color guy on your favorite team's tv broadcast... (Luckily I don' thave cable so I listen to the radio)

I listened to him last night while watching the Phillies (I don't think DTV had the Phillies feed for some reason). He's a bit more tolerable doing games because he doesn't feel the need to fill all the air time with his own voice, but otherwise he still sucks.

Lathum · 04-08-2010, 09:17 AM

The Nats broadcasters are horrible. When I have the misfortune of getting their games to me when they play the Mets I usually turn the sound off. I think I mentioned that last year.

Ksyrup · 04-08-2010, 09:25 AM

Yeah, the other guy in the booth with Dibble said something last night that I thought was completely stupid or off the mark, but I can't remember what it was.

MikeVic · 04-08-2010, 09:32 AM

Any chance Julio Franco signs with a team this year?

lordscarlet · 04-08-2010, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

The Nats broadcasters are horrible. When I have the misfortune of getting their games to me when they play the Mets I usually turn the sound off. I think I mentioned that last year.

You did.

I mentioned that I listen to the radio broadcast most of the time back then as well. They are far more tolerable.

JonInMiddleGA · 04-08-2010, 10:13 AM

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Any chance Julio Franco signs with a team this year?

He's currently managing the Mets Gulf Coast League team, with former Mets hitting instructor Tom McCraw & former Braves conditioning coach Frank Fultz as his coaches.

MikeVic · 04-08-2010, 10:25 AM

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He's currently managing the Mets Gulf Coast League team, with former Mets hitting instructor Tom McCraw & former Braves conditioning coach Frank Fultz as his coaches.

Damn, so unless he gets fired or quits that'll be a no then.

At least Jamie Moyer is still around.

Galaril · 04-08-2010, 12:16 PM

That was a tough loss for the Sox last night. Geez Papelbon blows another one in the 9th and Park Chan Ho pitches three scoreless inning as of relief and three strike outs for the win?

DaddyTorgo · 04-08-2010, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Galaril

That was a tough loss for the Sox last night. Geez Papelbon blows another one in the 9th and Park Chan Ho pitches three scoreless inning as of relief and three strike outs for the win?

lungs · 04-08-2010, 01:01 PM

Brewers lock down Yovani Gallardo with a 5 year/$30.1 million extension with an option for a sixth year.

Nice, but risky to sign any pitcher for that long. Won't break the bank though.

Chief Rum · 04-08-2010, 01:11 PM

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That was a tough loss for the Sox last night. Geez Papelbon blows another one in the 9th and Park Chan Ho pitches three scoreless inning as of relief and three strike outs for the win?

It's my fault. I drafted him in the WW league, even though I can't stand him. I even took Broxton first in the hopes someone else would take him, and yet the draft swung back around to me and he was still there.

So this is Papelbon getting back at me for drafting him.

Terps · 04-08-2010, 09:42 PM

Man, I can't take a whole year of Mike Gonzalez if you have to hold your breath every time he is on the mound. He's gonna make every ninth inning exciting if his first two save situations are any indication.

samifan24 · 04-08-2010, 11:12 PM

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Man, I can't take a whole year of Mike Gonzalez if you have to hold your breath every time he is on the mound. He's gonna make every ninth inning exciting if his first two save situations are any indication.

Jim Johnson should probably close in Baltimore anyway. I doubt Gonzalez finished the year as the closer.

JonInMiddleGA · 04-09-2010, 01:30 AM

Here's a shocker

Atlanta's Chipper Jones left the game after the third inning with a strained right oblique and said he may miss the team's weekend series at San Francisco.

Terps · 04-09-2010, 01:41 AM

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Jim Johnson should probably close in Baltimore anyway. I doubt Gonzalez finished the year as the closer.

I wouldn't like Johnson in the closers role. They experimented with that a little and he failed. He's a better 8th inning guy. I'd like to see Kam Mickolio be the closer, but they sent him down to Norfolk, or maybe even Uehara when he comes off the DL.

Izulde · 04-09-2010, 02:18 AM

Losing 2 of 3 to the flipping Indians is a shitty way to start the year.

Icy · 04-09-2010, 04:42 AM

Good 2-1 series for the Marlins, recently traded in SP Robertson did a great job yesterday.

Lathum · 04-09-2010, 08:50 AM

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Good 2-1 series for the Marlins, recently traded in SP Robertson did a great job yesterday.

It was against the Mets, I wouldn't get to excited.

samifan24 · 04-09-2010, 08:57 AM

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Losing 2 of 3 to the flipping Indians is a shitty way to start the year.

I can't believe your Sox didn't capitalize on Carmona's six walks in the 2nd game. Good series win for the Tribe.

Ramzavail · 04-09-2010, 08:57 AM

I posted this over in the trivia thread - but I thought I'd post it here too.

Anybody interested in getting a trivia group together on google chat or blackberry messanger that we send out daily or every other day baseball trivia? Pm me.

samifan24 · 04-09-2010, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

He is hands down the most unlistenable announcer in sports, yet all the idiot New Yorkers love him, he is such a hack.

I'd give that honor to Hawk Harrelson.

Lathum · 04-09-2010, 09:09 AM

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I'd give that honor to Hawk Harrelson.

I've listened to both and I'm not so sure. The Nats guys are up there as well.

I realize as a Mets fan I have been spoiled, the team may suck but the announcers are great and I never get tired of hearing Hernandez and Darling talk about the good old days.

Dr. Sak · 04-09-2010, 09:09 AM

What about the color analyst for the Yanks that's a chick...she's pretty...um annoying.

Ramzavail · 04-09-2010, 09:11 AM

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What about the color analyst for the Yanks that's a chick...she's pretty...um annoying.

Susan Waldman. You think her voice is bad, you should see her face.

Ramzavail · 04-09-2010, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

I've listened to both and I'm not so sure. The Nats guys are up there as well.

I realize as a Mets fan I have been spoiled, the team may suck but the announcers are great and I never get tired of hearing Hernandez and Darling talk about the good old days.

+1.

DaddyTorgo · 04-09-2010, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Ramzavail

Susan Waldman. You think her voice is bad, you should see her face.

Ksyrup · 04-09-2010, 09:17 AM

The combo of Sterling/Waldman is a nightmare. They fit perfectly for the team/city, though - I'll give them that.

Lathum · 04-09-2010, 09:23 AM

Thats a good picture of her, if anyone has ever had a face for radio it's Waldman.

Logan · 04-09-2010, 09:24 AM

"Good....GOODNESS GRACIOUS!!!! IT'S ROGER CLEMENS!!!!!!!"

Ronnie Dobbs2 · 04-09-2010, 09:25 AM

I liked the one where she was crying even better.

Ksyrup · 04-09-2010, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Logan

"Good....GOODNESS GRACIOUS!!!! IT'S ROGER CLEMENS!!!!!!!"

That seems like such a long time ago, but for Clemens, it must seem like an eternity.

lordscarlet · 04-09-2010, 12:37 PM

Woo! The Nats start the season better than '09!

Ronnie Dobbs2 · 04-09-2010, 12:45 PM

Wait, so they spelled the team name right this time?

lordscarlet · 04-09-2010, 12:51 PM

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Wait, so they spelled the team name right this time?

Better. They are guaranteed not to go 0-11 to start the season.

Chief Rum · 04-09-2010, 01:30 PM

So who is the Nats' 5th starter and is he really better than Strasbourg at this point? Or did the wunderkid go to the minors to make those clubs some money before his major league debut?

ISiddiqui · 04-09-2010, 01:49 PM

Maybe also to have his arbitration clock start a year later

Chief Rum · 04-09-2010, 02:04 PM

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Maybe also to have his arbitration clock start a year later

Touché.

Although one wonders as to the actual benefit of doing so, considering I am pretty sure his entry level contract was a three year major league deal. Best the Nats can hope for is one season of salary control, and I am not even sure of that.

gstelmack · 04-09-2010, 02:33 PM

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Touché.

Although one wonders as to the actual benefit of doing so, considering I am pretty sure his entry level contract was a three year major league deal. Best the Nats can hope for is one season of salary control, and I am not even sure of that.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...ion/index.html

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The Machiavellian calculus involved in such a decision is the following: If a team brings up its prized prospect on Opening Day of his rookie season (and never demotes him), he'll likely cost about $51.5 million through his first seven years in the league: roughly $500,000 in his first few years, about $10 million while he's arbitration eligible, and, assuming they sign him to a contract when he becomes eligible for free agency, about $20 million as a free agent. However, by waiting until June for his debut, he'll cost just $38.7 million over his first seven full years ($32 million for the first 6 2/3 years and an additional $6.7 million for 1/3rd of a year of free agency). That's a savings of more than $12 million, all for pushing back a player's debut just eight weeks.
Another way to look at it is that the Nationals are essentially trading about eight to 10 starts of Strasburg as a rookie in 2010 for a full season of a fully developed Strasburg in 2016, when he'll be 28. When framed this way, the decision becomes a no-brainer. It's an even easier call considering that the 2010 Nationals aren't likely to go anywhere this season.

Chief Rum · 04-09-2010, 03:24 PM

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http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...ion/index.html

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Well, that puts it in perspective.

No mention there, though, of the major league deal he already signed? Not that it changes the math any--he's getting paid his entry-level deal, whether he comes up now or in June. But surprised it didn't get mentioned in the math.

IIRC, he got around $15 M for three years.

sovereignstar · 04-09-2010, 04:40 PM

Free at last! Free at last! Thank God Almighty, we are free at last!

Terps · 04-09-2010, 04:47 PM

Alright, really, this joke with Mike Gonzalez has got to stop. Orioles take a 6-5 lead in the bottom of the 8th. Gonzalez in for the 9th, leadoff walk, passed ball, double, and now it's tied.

stevew · 04-09-2010, 04:49 PM

Pedro Alvarez is sitting in AAA for the same reasons as Strasburg. My guess is that the union will almost have to address these type of issues in the next CBA.

You have a guy like Hardy go down to AAA for 2 weeks in order to push back his free agency a whole week.

I think the union should fight to the death for a 5 years and a few months=free agency instead of the current 6 full years(which can basically be almost 7 full seasons.)

Terps · 04-09-2010, 04:50 PM

Gonzalez gives up a sac fly to give the Jays the lead, and walks off the field to a chorus of deserved boos. I'm pretty sure he was crying.

Recall Mickolio, please.

johnnyshaka · 04-09-2010, 05:27 PM

Super pickup Mike Gonzalez has been for my fake baseball team. Fuck.

pbot · 04-09-2010, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Terps

Gonzalez gives up a sac fly to give the Jays the lead, and walks off the field to a chorus of deserved boos. I'm pretty sure he was crying.

Recall Mickolio, please.

Hope Trembley is renting. He might not be around by The Preakness.

Or the Kentucky Derby for that matter...

Terps · 04-09-2010, 05:56 PM

He's definitely not playing like his career numbers indicate.

This is like watching Armando Benitez in the late 90's all over again.

So far he ranks right up there with such former O's bullpen signings as Steve Kline, Mike DeJean, Danys Baez, Russ Ortiz, and... Well I'll spare the rest of them.

TroyF · 04-09-2010, 06:26 PM

I know it's early, but this is my favorite headline of the year so far in baseball:

Barmes powers DelaRosa, Rockies past Padres

Rockies won the game 7-0. Barmes had one hit, a three run HR in a game that was already 4-0 in the bottom of the 8th inning.

De La Rosa? How about 7 IP, 1 hit, 1BB, 9K.

Barmes didn't power the Rockies past anyone. He hit a meaningless three run bomb after the game was long decided. De La Rosa is the ONLY meaningful story from that game.

04-08-2010, 07:47 AM	#251
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	Oh, and I have to say that as ridiculous and annoying as John Sterling's HR calls are, I don't think I've heard anything as stupid as his call of Granderson's HR last night. Something to the effect of, "Oh Curtis, you're kinda Grand-erson!" Give me a fucking break. Dude needs to be suspended for that kinda of shit. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

04-08-2010, 09:25 AM	#256
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	Yeah, the other guy in the booth with Dibble said something last night that I thought was completely stupid or off the mark, but I can't remember what it was. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

04-09-2010, 01:30 AM	#267
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	Here's a shocker Atlanta's Chipper Jones left the game after the third inning with a strained right oblique and said he may miss the team's weekend series at San Francisco. __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

04-09-2010, 02:18 AM	#269
Izulde Head Coach Join Date: Sep 2004	Losing 2 of 3 to the flipping Indians is a shitty way to start the year. __________________ 2006 Golden Scribe Nominee 2006 Golden Scribe Winner Best Non-Sport Dynasty: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty) Rookie Writer of the Year Dynasty of the Year: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty)

04-09-2010, 04:42 AM	#270
Icy Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Toledo - Spain	Good 2-1 series for the Marlins, recently traded in SP Robertson did a great job yesterday. __________________

04-08-2010, 09:17 AM	#255
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	The Nats broadcasters are horrible. When I have the misfortune of getting their games to me when they play the Mets I usually turn the sound off. I think I mentioned that last year.

04-08-2010, 09:32 AM	#257
MikeVic Head Coach Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Hometown of Canada	Any chance Julio Franco signs with a team this year?

04-08-2010, 12:16 PM	#261
Galaril Pro Starter Join Date: Jan 2004	That was a tough loss for the Sox last night. Geez Papelbon blows another one in the 9th and Park Chan Ho pitches three scoreless inning as of relief and three strike outs for the win?

04-08-2010, 01:01 PM	#263
lungs Pro Rookie Join Date: May 2002 Location: Prairie du Sac, WI	Brewers lock down Yovani Gallardo with a 5 year/$30.1 million extension with an option for a sixth year. Nice, but risky to sign any pitcher for that long. Won't break the bank though.

04-08-2010, 09:42 PM	#265
Terps College Prospect Join Date: Jul 2001	Man, I can't take a whole year of Mike Gonzalez if you have to hold your breath every time he is on the mound. He's gonna make every ninth inning exciting if his first two save situations are any indication.

04-09-2010, 08:57 AM	#273
Ramzavail College Starter Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Strong Island, NY	I posted this over in the trivia thread - but I thought I'd post it here too. Anybody interested in getting a trivia group together on google chat or blackberry messanger that we send out daily or every other day baseball trivia? Pm me.

04-09-2010, 09:09 AM	#276
Dr. Sak Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Stuck in Yinzerville, PA	What about the color analyst for the Yanks that's a chick...she's pretty...um annoying.

04-09-2010, 09:17 AM	#280
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	The combo of Sterling/Waldman is a nightmare. They fit perfectly for the team/city, though - I'll give them that. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

04-09-2010, 09:23 AM	#281
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	Thats a good picture of her, if anyone has ever had a face for radio it's Waldman.

04-09-2010, 09:24 AM	#282
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	"Good....GOODNESS GRACIOUS!!!! IT'S ROGER CLEMENS!!!!!!!"

04-09-2010, 09:25 AM	#283
Ronnie Dobbs2 Pro Rookie Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Bahston Mass	I liked the one where she was crying even better. __________________ There's no I in Teamocil, at least not where you'd think

04-09-2010, 12:37 PM	#285
lordscarlet Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Washington, DC	Woo! The Nats start the season better than '09! __________________ Sixteen Colors ANSI/ASCII Art Archive "...the better half of the Moores..." -cthomer5000

04-09-2010, 12:45 PM	#286
Ronnie Dobbs2 Pro Rookie Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Bahston Mass	Wait, so they spelled the team name right this time? __________________ There's no I in Teamocil, at least not where you'd think Last edited by Ronnie Dobbs2 : 04-09-2010 at 12:51 PM.

04-09-2010, 01:30 PM	#288
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	So who is the Nats' 5th starter and is he really better than Strasbourg at this point? Or did the wunderkid go to the minors to make those clubs some money before his major league debut? __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

04-09-2010, 01:49 PM	#289
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	Maybe also to have his arbitration clock start a year later __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

04-09-2010, 04:40 PM	#293
sovereignstar Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2004	Free at last! Free at last! Thank God Almighty, we are free at last!

04-09-2010, 04:47 PM	#294
Terps College Prospect Join Date: Jul 2001	Alright, really, this joke with Mike Gonzalez has got to stop. Orioles take a 6-5 lead in the bottom of the 8th. Gonzalez in for the 9th, leadoff walk, passed ball, double, and now it's tied.

04-09-2010, 04:49 PM	#295
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Pedro Alvarez is sitting in AAA for the same reasons as Strasburg. My guess is that the union will almost have to address these type of issues in the next CBA. You have a guy like Hardy go down to AAA for 2 weeks in order to push back his free agency a whole week. I think the union should fight to the death for a 5 years and a few months=free agency instead of the current 6 full years(which can basically be almost 7 full seasons.)

04-09-2010, 04:50 PM	#296
Terps College Prospect Join Date: Jul 2001	Gonzalez gives up a sac fly to give the Jays the lead, and walks off the field to a chorus of deserved boos. I'm pretty sure he was crying. Recall Mickolio, please. Last edited by Terps : 04-09-2010 at 04:51 PM.

04-09-2010, 05:27 PM	#297
johnnyshaka College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Edmonton, AB	Super pickup Mike Gonzalez has been for my fake baseball team. Fuck.

04-09-2010, 05:56 PM	#299
Terps College Prospect Join Date: Jul 2001	He's definitely not playing like his career numbers indicate. This is like watching Armando Benitez in the late 90's all over again. So far he ranks right up there with such former O's bullpen signings as Steve Kline, Mike DeJean, Danys Baez, Russ Ortiz, and... Well I'll spare the rest of them.

04-09-2010, 06:26 PM	#300
TroyF Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	I know it's early, but this is my favorite headline of the year so far in baseball: Barmes powers DelaRosa, Rockies past Padres Rockies won the game 7-0. Barmes had one hit, a three run HR in a game that was already 4-0 in the bottom of the 8th inning. De La Rosa? How about 7 IP, 1 hit, 1BB, 9K. Barmes didn't power the Rockies past anyone. He hit a meaningless three run bomb after the game was long decided. De La Rosa is the ONLY meaningful story from that game.

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