Soccer Thread 2011-2012 - Page 8

DaddyTorgo · 08-10-2011, 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrBug708

Holden's issue is being hurt right now. Pretty sure he'd have played heavily if he was healthy

Oh I know he's hurt. But even when he's been healthy Bradley never showed a great inclination to use him. I'm a firm believer that he can be the 2nd coming of Claudio Reyna in terms of controlling the pace of the game and dictating it for the USA from midfield.

Easy Mac · 08-10-2011, 08:46 PM

Holden's problem is tha he's always hurt.

Coffee Warlord · 08-10-2011, 08:46 PM

When Dempsey and Jozy are both not around...striker options are painfully slim.

Easy Mac · 08-10-2011, 08:55 PM

Am I the only person who thinks the US could be just as good as Mexico if only our players were taught spacing at a young age?

On the ball, Mexico rarely has 2 or more player within 5 yards of eachother until they reach the last quarter of the field.

The US, even playing out of the back, we routinely have 3-4 players within 5 yards of eachother. Is it really that hard?

Coffee Warlord · 08-10-2011, 08:58 PM

Whoever's at left back for the US is having a terrible, terrible game.

MrBug708 · 08-10-2011, 09:00 PM

Not a lot of options at left back so we are auditioning it out

RainMaker · 08-10-2011, 09:00 PM

Why isn't Timmy Chandler playing? I keep reading good things about him and not he's committed to the team.

Big Fo · 08-10-2011, 09:01 PM

Edgar Castillo.

For Americans, nothing is certain other than death, taxes, and awful left backs.

Easy Mac · 08-10-2011, 09:03 PM

Is Brek Shea a giant douche, or does he just look like one on TV.

Coffee Warlord · 08-10-2011, 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Easy Mac

Am I the only person who thinks the US could be just as good as Mexico if only our players were taught spacing at a young age?

On the ball, Mexico rarely has 2 or more player within 5 yards of eachother until they reach the last quarter of the field.

The US, even playing out of the back, we routinely have 3-4 players within 5 yards of eachother. Is it really that hard?

Well, for a US side who has done pretty much nothing but play long balls for years and years, it might take some time to figure that whole spacing thing out.

DaddyTorgo · 08-10-2011, 09:06 PM

Get the douchey pro-Mexico announcer off my TV ESPN or I'll fucking stab you all.

Big Fo · 08-10-2011, 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RainMaker

Why isn't Timmy Chandler playing? I keep reading good things about him and not he's committed to the team.

Even if he's healthy (not sure what his exact situation is), we tend not to call up guys who are starters for European club teams for these friendlies. Altidore, Dempsey, Bedoya, Goodson, etc. would all have been in the squad if this were a qualifier. Chandler too probably.

MrBug708 · 08-10-2011, 09:06 PM

I think Bradley would be better suited as a DM for the team and Holden, Donovan, Dempsey and other players taking the attacking roles for the midfield.

Coffee Warlord · 08-10-2011, 09:13 PM

In good news, Tim Howard has only needed to become Angry Tim Howard a couple of times.

sovereignstar v2 · 08-10-2011, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

Look...I'm not trying to be racist here or anything, but what's the point of having a Mexican color guy in the box?? They're showing the damn game on the Spanish language channels...I don't need him sitting on ESPN pimping how great Mexico is.

You never cease to amaze me. He's a pretty renowned commentator. And more importantly, he was born in Uruguay.

http://www.espnmediazone3.com/us/201...4/jorge-ramos/

RainMaker · 08-10-2011, 09:26 PM

This is pretty embarrassing.

Coffee Warlord · 08-10-2011, 09:29 PM

Wow. Unlucky.

MrBug708 · 08-10-2011, 09:29 PM

Coffee Warlord · 08-10-2011, 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Easy Mac

Is Brek Shea a giant douche, or does he just look like one on TV.

Flock 'o Gulls.

DaddyTorgo · 08-10-2011, 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sovereignstar v2

You never cease to amaze me. He's a pretty renowned commentator. And more importantly, he was born in Uruguay.

Jorge Ramos | ESPN MediaZone

Okay - so he was born in Uruguay. Good for him. He's still being overly "Mexico cheerleadery" for my broadcast. I want homer announcers for my national team in all sports damnit.

I don't have a problem with his accent or anything...I just have a problem with the substance of what he's saying.

Coffee Warlord · 08-10-2011, 09:39 PM

Entire American side have just been muscled out of position all day.

DaddyTorgo · 08-10-2011, 09:40 PM

Ugh...WTF was that Agudelo. *BARF*

DaddyTorgo · 08-10-2011, 09:46 PM

WOOT! USA!!

Coffee Warlord · 08-10-2011, 09:46 PM

Ya know. I'm liking Brek Flock o' Gulls Shea.

DaddyTorgo · 08-10-2011, 09:47 PM

Damn...put that on frame Torres!!

kingfc22 · 08-10-2011, 09:47 PM

Wow. Attacking soccer all of a sudden. What a difference.

MrBug708 · 08-10-2011, 09:47 PM

I was gonna come here and blast the RR sub, but I take it back

Donovan had a terrible touch on that last possession. Torres should have had that in front for an easy goal

MrBug708 · 08-10-2011, 09:48 PM

As soon as Bradley came off

Big Fo · 08-10-2011, 09:50 PM

Second decent penalty shout this half

Easy Mac · 08-10-2011, 09:50 PM

Normally you wrong foot the goalie. It looked like Rogers wrong footed himself. A goal's a goal.

EagleFan · 08-10-2011, 09:50 PM

Seriously, no call there?

kingfc22 · 08-10-2011, 09:50 PM

How was that not a penalty. Clear contact was made.

RainMaker · 08-10-2011, 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrBug708

As soon as Bradley came off

I don't know nearly as much as you guys about the sport. But it feels like a lot of the old guard has a style of backpassing and not moving the ball quickly. These new guys are like "fuck it, let's go". Saw the same thing in the Gold Cup when Adu would come on. Just felt like a different attitude toward the game.

Saw Brek Shea a couple MLS games on TV and I thought he was really good.

DaddyTorgo · 08-10-2011, 09:50 PM

I wonder (thinking out loud here) if maybe the team has become so used to Bradley controlling the pace of the game and distributing from his deep DMC position that they tend to defer to him all the time and everybody else is more hesitant to create? And now they feel more free to spread the ball around and have various people create when he's not on?

Probably more likely it's a coincidence...but maybe not? Small sample size, hopefully we'll get a chance to see.

DaddyTorgo · 08-10-2011, 09:55 PM

young guys are indeed like "fuckit...attack attack attack"

i love it

Easy Mac · 08-10-2011, 09:56 PM

Ricardo Clark sighting. Go alma mater!

Easy Mac · 08-10-2011, 09:57 PM

It's also the 75th minute of a friendly with a new coach they're tryig to impress.

DaddyTorgo · 08-10-2011, 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Easy Mac

It's also the 75th minute of a friendly with a new coach they're tryig to impress.

True

Coffee Warlord · 08-10-2011, 09:58 PM

How the hell is that not a red!?!?

kingfc22 · 08-10-2011, 09:58 PM

No red? That is a joke!

Big Fo · 08-10-2011, 09:59 PM

A fucking yellow card? I hate CONCACAF refs.

Easy Mac · 08-10-2011, 09:59 PM

I know the game means nothing, but that's always a straight red.

MrBug708 · 08-10-2011, 09:59 PM

Fuck that

DaddyTorgo · 08-10-2011, 09:59 PM

Curious...couple penalty shots denied (1 was CLEAR) and that is absolutely a red card.

WTF. Bullshit reffing.

EagleFan · 08-10-2011, 09:59 PM

WTF? Did they get these refs from Walmart?

Coffee Warlord · 08-10-2011, 10:00 PM

Two penalties, one completely missed corner, and now that.

cartman · 08-10-2011, 10:00 PM

The ref is making a strong case to be at the WC in Brazil.

Easy Mac · 08-10-2011, 10:01 PM

Can we let anyone other than Donovan take free kicks? I thought for sure Klinsmann might look at that.

Easy Mac · 08-10-2011, 10:04 PM

I can say, Landon looks much younger with the kids. I'd like to see him and Dempsey play with them.

Coffee Warlord · 08-10-2011, 10:05 PM

Clark is Not Impressing.

08-10-2011, 08:55 PM	#354
Easy Mac Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Here	Am I the only person who thinks the US could be just as good as Mexico if only our players were taught spacing at a young age? On the ball, Mexico rarely has 2 or more player within 5 yards of eachother until they reach the last quarter of the field. The US, even playing out of the back, we routinely have 3-4 players within 5 yards of eachother. Is it really that hard? Last edited by Easy Mac : 08-10-2011 at 08:56 PM.

08-10-2011, 09:29 PM	#368
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	D'oh

08-10-2011, 09:47 PM	#376
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	Wow. Attacking soccer all of a sudden. What a difference. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

08-10-2011, 09:50 PM	#381
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	Seriously, no call there? __________________ The EagleFan YouTube Channel - Reactions Soarin' & Scratchin' YouTube Channel - We react to music, videos, TV, we talk, we are planning some field trips Soarin' & Soothin' - Meditation, Relaxation, and Sleep Aid; mental health is important

08-10-2011, 09:50 PM	#382
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	How was that not a penalty. Clear contact was made. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

08-10-2011, 08:46 PM	#352
Easy Mac Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Here	Holden's problem is tha he's always hurt.

08-10-2011, 08:46 PM	#353
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	When Dempsey and Jozy are both not around...striker options are painfully slim.

08-10-2011, 08:58 PM	#355
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	Whoever's at left back for the US is having a terrible, terrible game.

08-10-2011, 09:00 PM	#356
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Not a lot of options at left back so we are auditioning it out

08-10-2011, 09:00 PM	#357
RainMaker General Manager Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL	Why isn't Timmy Chandler playing? I keep reading good things about him and not he's committed to the team.

08-10-2011, 09:01 PM	#358
Big Fo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2005	Edgar Castillo. For Americans, nothing is certain other than death, taxes, and awful left backs.

08-10-2011, 09:03 PM	#359
Easy Mac Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Here	Is Brek Shea a giant douche, or does he just look like one on TV.

08-10-2011, 09:06 PM	#361
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	Get the douchey pro-Mexico announcer off my TV ESPN or I'll fucking stab you all.

08-10-2011, 09:06 PM	#363
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	I think Bradley would be better suited as a DM for the team and Holden, Donovan, Dempsey and other players taking the attacking roles for the midfield.

08-10-2011, 09:13 PM	#364
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	In good news, Tim Howard has only needed to become Angry Tim Howard a couple of times.

08-10-2011, 09:26 PM	#366
RainMaker General Manager Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL	This is pretty embarrassing.

08-10-2011, 09:29 PM	#367
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	Wow. Unlucky.

08-10-2011, 09:39 PM	#371
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	Entire American side have just been muscled out of position all day.

08-10-2011, 09:40 PM	#372
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	Ugh...WTF was that Agudelo. BARF

08-10-2011, 09:46 PM	#373
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	WOOT! USA!!

08-10-2011, 09:46 PM	#374
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	Ya know. I'm liking Brek Flock o' Gulls Shea.

08-10-2011, 09:47 PM	#375
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	Damn...put that on frame Torres!!

08-10-2011, 09:47 PM	#377
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	I was gonna come here and blast the RR sub, but I take it back Donovan had a terrible touch on that last possession. Torres should have had that in front for an easy goal

08-10-2011, 09:48 PM	#378
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	As soon as Bradley came off

08-10-2011, 09:50 PM	#379
Big Fo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2005	Second decent penalty shout this half

08-10-2011, 09:50 PM	#380
Easy Mac Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Here	Normally you wrong foot the goalie. It looked like Rogers wrong footed himself. A goal's a goal.

08-10-2011, 09:50 PM	#384
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	I wonder (thinking out loud here) if maybe the team has become so used to Bradley controlling the pace of the game and distributing from his deep DMC position that they tend to defer to him all the time and everybody else is more hesitant to create? And now they feel more free to spread the ball around and have various people create when he's not on? Probably more likely it's a coincidence...but maybe not? Small sample size, hopefully we'll get a chance to see. Last edited by DaddyTorgo : 08-10-2011 at 09:51 PM.

08-10-2011, 09:55 PM	#385
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	young guys are indeed like "fuckit...attack attack attack" i love it

08-10-2011, 09:56 PM	#386
Easy Mac Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Here	Ricardo Clark sighting. Go alma mater!

08-10-2011, 09:57 PM	#387
Easy Mac Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Here	It's also the 75th minute of a friendly with a new coach they're tryig to impress.

08-10-2011, 09:58 PM	#389
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	How the hell is that not a red!?!?

08-10-2011, 09:58 PM	#390
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	No red? That is a joke! __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

08-10-2011, 09:59 PM	#391
Big Fo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2005	A fucking yellow card? I hate CONCACAF refs.

08-10-2011, 09:59 PM	#392
Easy Mac Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Here	I know the game means nothing, but that's always a straight red.

08-10-2011, 09:59 PM	#393
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Fuck that