2015 MLB thread

[Vince, Pt. II]

Originally Posted by Logan

I'm guessing a part of it is that he was still a friend and teammate of the current players, and his death, even if it was his own doing, surely impacts them. Maybe best way was to remember him and his girlfriend before the first game and then move on. The year long patch is unnecessary and a bit too much of a tribute.

But I'm not a Cards fan.

I'm in this line. Also not a Cardinals fan.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Weird stuff for Volquez. His first start, he was hit pretty hard, yet still only gave up a run and won the game. Tonight, he's WAY better than his first start, yet he's losing. Overall, very happy with the signing thus far, but his results haven't mirrored how he pitched in each start.

[Fonzie]

Originally Posted by Logan

I'm guessing a part of it is that he was still a friend and teammate of the current players, and his death, even if it was his own doing, surely impacts them. Maybe best way was to remember him and his girlfriend before the first game and then move on. The year long patch is unnecessary and a bit too much of a tribute.

But I'm not a Cards fan.

I'm a Cards fan and I agree with you wholeheartedly. There were others in the Cardinals "family" who were remembered that day, and I would've preferred that they keep Taveras' simple as with the others.

That said, if the Cardinals were going to do a video tribute to him would it have been too much to ask for them offer some brief message about drunk driving? The video was, after all, being played directly below the word "Budweiser".

Or perhaps that's why they didn't mention drunk driving. Hmm...

Get rid of the patch. Hate it.

[Ryche]

Originally Posted by Ryche

Nice start for the Rockies. Could be a dangerous team if they stay healthy. That's a huge if though.

Still going, swept the Giants in SF. Encouraged that they were smart enough to move Hawkins out of the closer role quickly rather than letting it drag out.

[Lathum]

What a joke in the Mets game. What's the point of replay if you overturn it without conclusiive evidence?

[Lathum]

Mets are 7-3,have won 5 in a row, and have their top 3 starters going next 3 games. Could not be more excited about this team.

[MizzouRah]

What a game by Lackey today!!!

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by Lathum

Mets are 7-3,have won 5 in a row, and have their top 3 starters going next 3 games. Could not be more excited about this team.

Don't allow the 3 wins against the Phillies to get you over hyped. Thanks to Amaro they are a AAA team...

When is the NFL draft?

(sorry, this has been a crappy year to be a Philly sports fan)

[IlliniCub]

Bryant coming to Chicago tomorrow!!! I'm so stoked!

[stevew]

Whew, he got enough seasoning so fast!

[panerd]

Originally Posted by IlliniCub

Bryant coming to Chicago tomorrow!!! I'm so stoked!

I think the Cubs are going to be a monster team in 2-3 years but see a similar beginning for Bryant that Javy Baez had last year. The guy strikes out a lot and big league pitchers don't just rely on their fastball like some of the AA/AAA guys. (And spring training stats mean about as much as Baez's line last spring) Hope I'm wrong but I think the hype machine got way out in front of this kid.

[MrBug708]

No Kris Bryant update?

[Lathum]

Bartolo Colon clearly hit the batting cages in the offseason. When he wasn't at Golden Corral.

[Grover]

"Latissimus Dorsi, that's what I call the hood of the cobra." - Rex Hudler

[Buccaneer]

Originally Posted by MrBug708

No Kris Bryant update?

The Pads took care of that.

[miami_fan]

How many samples will they be taken from A-Rod tonight?

[Lathum]

Mets win again, loving the early season. This team is doing everything right and against division opponents.

[MizzouRah]

Originally Posted by miami_fan

How many samples will they be taken from A-Rod tonight?

He uses vapor roids now.

[kingfc22]

Dear MLB app. I don't care if Kris Bryant got his first hit. Signed, every non-Cubs fan.

[IlliniCub]

I really liked Bryant's eye against some really nasty pitches today. It just feels good to be excited about Cubs baseball again.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

There's about to be an absolute shit-storm in the Royals-A's game. The umpires have totally mishandled this situation. I'll be floored if we don't see an A's batter plunked in the next few innings. Yost has already been tossed after Cain was hit.

[miked]

Didn't it extend with an intentional beanball ejection from the Royals pitcher yesterday?

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Originally Posted by miked

Didn't it extend with an intentional beanball ejection from the Royals pitcher yesterday?

They handled it differently yesterday than they did today. Yesterday was an immediate pre-game warning due to the dirty play by Lawrie in Friday's game, which resulted in immediate ejection of Ventura. Today, no pre-game warning was issued, so when Kasmir hit Cain, he issued a warning. So basically the Royals have no way to retaliate without losing another pitcher.

There were two ways to better handle it by the umpires.

1. Issue a pre-game warning again, warning them to keep it clear or face immediate ejection.

2. Let Cain walk down to first base and issue no warning. The home plate umpire actually was going to do exactly that, but then crew chief Jim Joyce decided to interject himself. You could clearly see the home plate umpire saying he didn't want to issue a warning, but Joyce overruled him in the ensuing conversation.

[cougarfreak]

My son and I went to Stl. as Reds fans this weekend. The fans,ushers, etc couldn't have been nicer to us. Great place to watch a game. Plus I got a Yadier Molina bobblehead to use as a toilet paper roll holder

[EagleFan]

So the Royals are looking to get into it with every team in the league?

[kingfc22]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

So the Royals are looking to get into it with every team in the league?

Mainly just Ventura.

[Grover]

Shit-storm achieved.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

So the Royals are looking to get into it with every team in the league?

The Royals have more HBP than any team in the league. We've been on the losing end of this repeatedly and have lost two players to injury as a result.

As I type this, Lawrie just had a 100 MPH heater go behind his back. Another tossed pitcher due to the bad ruling by the umpires. Also, the Royals have now had three acting managers thrown out in a single game. The third acting member just got tossed twice, if that's possible. The umps have lost all control at this point.

[Lathum]

Mets win again to go to 10-3 despite Harvey nit being at his best. The bigger issue is our dynamic your catcher Travis D'arnaud gets hit by a pitch and breaks his hand. He was hitting .317 with 2 HR and 10 RBI. We also lost our lefty specialist. Going to be a lot to overcome.

[cartman]

Actually, the Rangers have the most batter HBP. They seem to manage to not get their managers and coaches ejected from games.

[Zinto]

Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

The Royals have more HBP than any team in the league. We've been on the losing end of this repeatedly and have lost two players to injury as a result.

As I type this, Lawrie just had a 100 MPH heater go behind his back. Another tossed pitcher due to the bad ruling by the umpires. Also, the Royals have now had three acting managers thrown out in a single game. The third acting member just got tossed twice, if that's possible. The umps have lost all control at this point.

Well Herrera did yell something at Lawrie and point at his head implying that he was headhunting. This really hasn't been a good look for the Royals at all.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Originally Posted by Zinto

Well Herrera did yell something at Lawrie and point at his head implying that he was headhunting. This really hasn't been a good look for the Royals at all.

Lawrie should count himself as blessed that Herrera accuracy decreases when he throws at batters.

Lawrie has been a jerk through this whole thing. He could have diffused the tension on multiple occasions and did just the opposite.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Dear Bob Melvin,

Thanks for taking out your ace.

Sincerely,

The Royals

[Zinto]

Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

Lawrie should count himself as blessed that Herrera accuracy decreases when he throws at batters.

Lawrie has been a jerk through this whole thing. He could have diffused the tension on multiple occasions and did just the opposite.

Lawrie made a bad decision sliding like he did. Here are the awful things he has done since:

1. Apologized repeatedly after the game. Saying multiple times that he didn't mean to hurt him.
2. Sent a text to Escobar after the game apologizing to him(Escobar may or may not have gotten it.)
3. Took his beaning the next game and walked to first base. Was one of the most calm people during the fake tough guys fight.

I am not sure what more you want him to do. Sit out the rest of the weekend because the Royals don't want to let it go?

[kingfc22]

Originally Posted by Zinto

Lawrie made a bad decision sliding like he did. Here are the awful things he has done since:

1. Apologized repeatedly after the game. Saying multiple times that he didn't mean to hurt him.
2. Sent a text to Escobar after the game apologizing to him(Escobar may or may not have gotten it.)
3. Took his beaning the next game and walked to first base. Was one of the most calm people during the fake tough guys fight.

I am not sure what more you want him to do. Sit out the rest of the weekend because the Royals don't want to let it go?

But, but...we just want to be mad. Don't try to reason. It's a losing battle.

[stevew]

The Royals are stinky vaginas

[stevew]

Can I start an NL only thread.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Originally Posted by Zinto

Lawrie made a bad decision sliding like he did. Here are the awful things he has done since:

1. Apologized repeatedly after the game. Saying multiple times that he didn't mean to hurt him.
2. Sent a text to Escobar after the game apologizing to him(Escobar may or may not have gotten it.)
3. Took his beaning the next game and walked to first base. Was one of the most calm people during the fake tough guys fight.

I am not sure what more you want him to do. Sit out the rest of the weekend because the Royals don't want to let it go?

They threw at the Royals again today knowing they wouldn't lose a pitcher. All bets are off. Lawrie should have known he was at the crosshairs. If he's fortunate, he'll be out of the lineup when the Royals go to Oakland. He was anything but calm today.

The Royals hit them where it hurt anyway with a three run 8th inning. That's the best way to retaliate. It's not surprising they came alive after Herrera was tossed.

FWIW......It's been a fantastic series. Can't wait to see the games in Oakland.

[Chief Rum]

Word out of the Angels clubhouse is that Trout is shocked--SHOCKED!-- that a docile team like the Royals could be involved in anything like this!!

[heybrad]

Poor Royals. Always getting picked on.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

And Cain fans the Oakland flames in the post-game interview. It's definitely not over.

[Johnny93g]

Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

Lawrie should count himself as blessed that Herrera accuracy decreases when he throws at batters.

Lawrie has been a jerk through this whole thing. He could have diffused the tension on multiple occasions and did just the opposite.

So you basically call out Brett Lawrie for instigating and being responsible for continuing all the trouble.

Originally Posted by Zinto

Lawrie made a bad decision sliding like he did. Here are the awful things he has done since:

1. Apologized repeatedly after the game. Saying multiple times that he didn't mean to hurt him.
2. Sent a text to Escobar after the game apologizing to him(Escobar may or may not have gotten it.)
3. Took his beaning the next game and walked to first base. Was one of the most calm people during the fake tough guys fight.

I am not sure what more you want him to do. Sit out the rest of the weekend because the Royals don't want to let it go?

Zinto posts some facts about how what you said was completely inaccurate and how Lawrie pretty much did all he could to diffuse tension.

Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

They threw at the Royals again today knowing they wouldn't lose a pitcher. All bets are off. Lawrie should have known he was at the crosshairs. If he's fortunate, he'll be out of the lineup when the Royals go to Oakland. He was anything but calm today.

The Royals hit them where it hurt anyway with a three run 8th inning. That's the best way to retaliate. It's not surprising they came alive after Herrera was tossed.

FWIW......It's been a fantastic series. Can't wait to see the games in Oakland.

Your response ignores you incorrectly called the guy out, ignores every fact posted. Maybe acknowledging that you said something stupid, or incorrect might be a good idea............ NAH!!!

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Originally Posted by Johnny93g

So you basically call out Brett Lawrie for instigating and being responsible for continuing all the trouble.

Zinto posts some facts about how what you said was completely inaccurate and how Lawrie pretty much did all he could to diffuse tension.

Your response ignores you incorrectly called the guy out, ignores every fact posted. Maybe acknowledging that you said something stupid, or incorrect might be a good idea............ NAH!!!

Lawrie injured our player intentionally. Any apology (which there's no evidence he did so in person or via phone which contradicts his claim that he did so) falls totally on deaf ear. He just didn't want to get a fastball in the earhole and was begging his way out of it, which only pissed off the Royals even worse. His denials and lies didn't diffuse anything. If the A's don't want Lawrie to be targeted, don't throw at Cain.

Also, as I already pointed out, the umpires botched this situation terribly, only making the situation worse than it already was. As a result, not only did we see what happened later in the game, it's very clear judging from the post-game reactions that poor decision is now going to cause problems in further games. Just a terrible job by the umpires in this case.

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

Lawrie injured our player intentionally. Any apology (which there's no evidence he did so in person or via phone which contradicts his claim that he did so) falls totally on deaf ear. He just didn't want to get a fastball in the earhole and was begging his way out of it, which only pissed off the Royals even worse. His denials and lies didn't diffuse anything. If the A's don't want Lawrie to be targeted, don't throw at Cain.

Also, as I already pointed out, the umpires botched this situation terribly, only making the situation worse than it already was. As a result, not only did we see what happened later in the game, it's very clear judging from the post-game reactions that poor decision is now going to cause problems in further games. Just a terrible job by the umpires in this case.

There actually is evidence and Escobar admitted that Hosmer probably gave him his old phone number.

There’s some drama about Brett Lawrie apologizing to Alcides Escobar | HardballTalk

[AENeuman]

Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

They handled it differently yesterday than they did today. Yesterday was an immediate pre-game warning due to the dirty play by Lawrie in Friday's game, which resulted in immediate ejection of Ventura. Today, no pre-game warning was issued, so when Kasmir hit Cain, he issued a warning. So basically the Royals have no way to retaliate without losing another pitcher.

There were two ways to better handle it by the umpires.

1. Issue a pre-game warning again, warning them to keep it clear or face immediate ejection.

2. Let Cain walk down to first base and issue no warning. The home plate umpire actually was going to do exactly that, but then crew chief Jim Joyce decided to interject himself. You could clearly see the home plate umpire saying he didn't want to issue a warning, but Joyce overruled him in the ensuing conversation.

Gosh, I can't imagine the indignation you would have if your team didn't win the series...oh wait

According to the replay of Ventura's disgusting and potentially deadly bean ball of fire and spikes, there were no warnings issued.


As someone who saw Matt Holliday probably ruin Suctaro's career with a slide, I too wish he would get hit every time he came to bat. But after the first hit by pitch, it seemed the players moved on, so should I.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Originally Posted by Atocep

There actually is evidence and Escobar admitted that Hosmer probably gave him his old phone number.

There’s some drama about Brett Lawrie apologizing to Alcides Escobar | HardballTalk

He could have walked his ass over and put it to bed if that was the case. He didn't. It's clear from Escobar's reaction today when Lawrie had a fastball go behind his back that the 'apology' was not accepted.

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

He could have walked his ass over and put it to bed if that was the case. He didn't. It's clear from Escobar's reaction today when Lawrie had a fastball go behind his back that the 'apology' was not accepted.

Which is where the Royals push it too far. Lawrie did something you see on a weekly basis in MLB and every other level of baseball. It just so happened Escobar was injured doing so. The Royals get a free pass to hit Lawrie in the ribs and everyone should move on. He apologized and took his beaning without a reaction. Coming back and throwing shoulder high behind him with a 100mph fastball takes things too far.

Yes, a Royals player got hit today and if they're so sensitive they feel the need to go out and hit someone in retaliation you don't go back at Lawrie and you keep it thigh or rib high if you do. What is clear is the Royals are the team that continue to escalate things.

[JPhillips]

The Royals were a good story last year. Please don't make us all hate them.

[miked]

Royals are a bunch of bitches. I don't think Lawrie meant to hurt anyone. That hard slide happens about 30% of the time with somebody miscalculating or trying to push the line. I have seen it too many times and it's silly. That being said, all he did was apologize repeatedly and take a beaning. Meanwhile, every Royals pitcher and coach has taken it to bitch levels. It's going to be a long season if they can't start acting like they've been there before (because they actually have now). Fans too.

[cartman]

When did 'beaning' stop meaning getting hit in the head?