WW XCIII - Mine Wars - Battle of Blair Mountain - SYMPATHIZERS WIN!!! - Page 12

Autumn · 04-29-2009, 10:40 AM

I agree, Pass. I'm thinking at this point that we may want to have everybody off the mission for the moment. If we get enough reveals and workers by the mission deadline we can switch a couple people back. It would suck to lose a camp just for the sake of a couple items, maybe.

Glad to see Path wasn't an organizer though.

The Jackal · 04-29-2009, 10:43 AM

I'm hesitant to stay back from the mission. If we send no one and have everyone working on camps there's gonna be wolves there anyways (whether they fake or not) - and if we outright lose the mission, who's to say the wolves don't automatically receive any items? I think I'm going to stay put for now.

The Jackal · 04-29-2009, 10:45 AM

on a completely unrelated note, i'm a college starter, woo!

Passacaglia · 04-29-2009, 10:48 AM

Grr. So we've had both ntn and TheNorm pop in here and not do anything to help us out with some info. And my guess is that Schmidty is not likely to be here in time for the mission. I really really don't want to, but we've got to start working on what we should do if no one is an organizer.

Passacaglia · 04-29-2009, 10:50 AM

Patrol -- 2 (both at x3)
Food -- 9 (3 at x3, 6 at x1)
Organize -- 8 (all at x1)

That's all 19 of us. I wonder if that's not a coincidence. And we are ripe for faking then. 9 on food and 9 on organizing? Sheesh.

ntndeacon · 04-29-2009, 10:50 AM

Yes Autumn I am an organizer. this is why I have done both days activities. the first day's mission in organizing the rescue effort, my specialty was something that could have been in play. today my specialty is needed more in the winning of the camp.

Passacaglia · 04-29-2009, 10:50 AM

I really hope we don't have to do that, but I guess we've got some time before we need to worry.

Passacaglia · 04-29-2009, 10:51 AM

Whew.

Passacaglia · 04-29-2009, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by ntndeacon

Yes Autumn I am an organizer. this is why I have done both days activities. the first day's mission in organizing the rescue effort, my specialty was something that could have been in play. today my specialty is needed more in the winning of the camp.

Can I ask how specific your PM was in saying that you would be useful on the mission? It seemed like the general thinking yesterday was that searchers would be the one whose specialty would be useful for the mission -- of course, we didn't know that organizing existed.

I'm asking because I'm trying to figure out TheNorm and Schmidty. As we approached mission deadline, TheNorm chose to go on the mission, but he didn't seem to have an inkling toward it -- he and I were back-and-forth about who would do which of the mission and oratory. Schmidty wasn't around before the mission deadline, so I guess he wasn't any help there.

Autumn · 04-29-2009, 10:56 AM

Ntndeacon, can you confirm if you're 2x or 3x?

Lathum · 04-29-2009, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

path dying contradicts your theory. They attacked path despite his not revealing. This suggests clearly to me that they were focused on other factors not the reveals.

how do you know??

I never even stated what my theory was?!?!?!

Autumn · 04-29-2009, 10:57 AM

Pass, I don't think we have a lot of time. We've got about an hour until mission deadline and if nobody shifts off of that then we're stuck with what we've got, which may not be enough.

The Jackal · 04-29-2009, 10:57 AM

I think we have 3 hours until mission deadline, don't we?

The Jackal · 04-29-2009, 10:58 AM

Yeah, mission orders due at 3. We've got some time.

Lathum · 04-29-2009, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

I am pretty disappointed to see the first two people posting both choosing to take the selfish route. I will likely be establishing my work early.

not sure what you mean here. I was one of the first people to step up, how is winning a camp selfish?

The Jackal · 04-29-2009, 10:59 AM

Who is on the mission right now besides me? Poli?

Lathum · 04-29-2009, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

did you refer to me as DL instead of DT or am I just not on your list cuz you hate me?

I meant you. I was drunk, really I was just trying to come up with the list of people who have played the most games with Path

TheNorm · 04-29-2009, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

Grr. So we've had both ntn and TheNorm pop in here and not do anything to help us out with some info. And my guess is that Schmidty is not likely to be here in time for the mission. I really really don't want to, but we've got to start working on what we should do if no one is an organizer.

Because I'm taking the 'not revealing until a camp activity requires it' line on this. There's also a high probability that I'll find something useful to the labor movement on this mission, so that's where I'm going.

Go To Mission

Passacaglia · 04-29-2009, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Autumn

Ntndeacon, can you confirm if you're 2x or 3x?

He's said earlier he was x3 somewhere -- I'll look for it.

Lathum · 04-29-2009, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Since food distribution is the largest, and we only have 1 who has claimed that skill, I believe, I'm going to help out there.

I don't have time to review the whole thread but I think we have 2 people claiming that skill

ntndeacon · 04-29-2009, 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

Can I ask how specific your PM was in saying that you would be useful on the mission? It seemed like the general thinking yesterday was that searchers would be the one whose specialty would be useful for the mission -- of course, we didn't know that organizing existed.

I'm asking because I'm trying to figure out TheNorm and Schmidty. As we approached mission deadline, TheNorm chose to go on the mission, but he didn't seem to have an inkling toward it -- he and I were back-and-forth about who would do which of the mission and oratory. Schmidty wasn't around before the mission deadline, so I guess he wasn't any help there.

Basically it said that tasks involving organization would get a benifit from my assistants of threefold a normal worker. SInce the mission was ORGANIZING a rescuie mission, I figured my specialty was in play... I am not sure as search makes sense there too, but I erred on the side of caution. My thinking was a little different than general thinking since I knew of the organizing specialty...I was hoping that the sypathizers may have not gotten that role, and were therefore unaware of its existance, therefore underestimating my (and hopefully others) effect on the mission.

Passacaglia · 04-29-2009, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

not sure what you mean here. I was one of the first people to step up, how is winning a camp selfish?

Are you still drunk?

He wasn't talking about you -- he was talking about the people going on the mission.

Lathum · 04-29-2009, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

I think this is a valid work action for you still, but I have both EagleFan and Danny as good food distributors.

I am a food distrubutor

Lathum · 04-29-2009, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

I guess I need to pony up

I am x3 on food distrinution

...

Passacaglia · 04-29-2009, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by TheNorm

Because I'm taking the 'not revealing until a camp activity requires it' line on this. There's also a high probability that I'll find something useful to the labor movement on this mission, so that's where I'm going.

Go To Mission

It just would have been nice if you could have told us that you would not be able to help on organizing -- I thought you were catching up on the thread, and was waiting to see if you were an organizer to shed some light and help us in our planning. The fact that you chose to not help us out, plus are going on the mission instead of the camps, does not make you look good here.

So we've got to hope Schmidty is an organizer. And there's a damn good chance he doesn't show up in time for us to figure out mission plans, so we might as well make a guess now. My hunch is that he is an organizer -- I don't think path was one, no one else is one, and with 20 people and 8 skills, it's likely we had 4 skills of 3 each and 4 skills of 2 each.

The Jackal · 04-29-2009, 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheNorm

Because I'm taking the 'not revealing until a camp activity requires it' line on this. There's also a high probability that I'll find something useful to the labor movement on this mission, so that's where I'm going.

Go To Mission

Well that's curious.

Passacaglia · 04-29-2009, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

I am a food distrubutor

Yeah, I missed that in my first post, but caught it later. Thanks.

Autumn · 04-29-2009, 11:08 AM

Clearly we've got Sympathizers going on the mission at this point. Norm, you either have not caught up yet or are choosing to help the Sympathizers by going on the mission.

I'm glad the deadline's later than I thought.

Passacaglia · 04-29-2009, 11:10 AM

Even though I think Schmidty is an organizer, I want to look at worst-case scenario (that he isn't one):

Patrol -- 2 (both x3)
Food -- 9 (3 at x3, 6 at x1)
Organizing -- 6 (1 at x3, 5 at x1) (both x3)

That's 17 of 19. If we go based on this assumption, I think it's best if we just punt on the mission, and have none of the searchers go -- that seems more fair than choosing 2 of the searchers that get to go, and I'd rather just not get the items than let wolves get them.

Passacaglia · 04-29-2009, 11:11 AM

With Schmidty as an organizer:

Patrol -- 2 (both x3)
Food -- 9 (3 at x3, 6 at x1)
Organizing -- 4 (2 at x3, 2 at x1)

Which puts us at 15 of 19. The three searchers, would get to go, plus one more....TheNorm, I guess. It would be nice to have backup for the food.

Passacaglia · 04-29-2009, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by ntndeacon

my skill makes me 3 times as effective at tasks involving that skill.

Found it, Autumn. Post 344.

Passacaglia · 04-29-2009, 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Autumn

Clearly we've got Sympathizers going on the mission at this point. Norm, you either have not caught up yet or are choosing to help the Sympathizers by going on the mission.

I'm glad the deadline's later than I thought.

Mission deadline is 3 PM EST, right?

The Jackal · 04-29-2009, 11:14 AM

I think this is what we have, feel free to correct:

patrol - CR (x3), USFL (x3), Autumn (x2?) (8/6)
food distribution - Lathum (x3), BK, EF (x3), PB (8/15)
organization (8) - clap, ntn (x3) (4/8)

mission - Poli, RendeR, Jackal, TheNorm

idle - Schmidty, Pass, dubb, DT, Danny, heinz

The Jackal · 04-29-2009, 11:15 AM

Didn't format that as nicely as I wanted, but you get the idea.

Norm is suggesting he has a skill that could be helpful on the mission but hasn't been revealed yet? Very strange. And I don't know if people are going to mesh with four of us not working on the camps.

Lathum · 04-29-2009, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

Are you still drunk?

He wasn't talking about you -- he was talking about the people going on the mission.

he said first to people posting. I assumed that meant posting actions after deadline.

I think you guys are off on Food Distribution, I count 4 people x3, but I may also still be drunk.

The Jackal · 04-29-2009, 11:16 AM

Who's x3 besides you and EF? I certainly could've missed a post.

Passacaglia · 04-29-2009, 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum

he said first to people posting. I assumed that meant posting actions after deadline.

I think you guys are off on Food Distribution, I count 4 people x3, but I may also still be drunk.

I could be wrong -- the easy way to solve it is to tell me who your fourth is, besides you, EagleFan, and Danny.

The Jackal · 04-29-2009, 11:18 AM

Ah, I see Danny is x3 as well but was seeing how his mass-mission idea would work.

Dubb also said he might go on the mission - but I assume these two will stay in the camps.

DaddyTorgo · 04-29-2009, 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum

I meant you. I was drunk, really I was just trying to come up with the list of people who have played the most games with Path

that's cool...just messin with you

DaddyTorgo · 04-29-2009, 11:19 AM

i'm available to do whatever the consensus is that i need to do today

The Jackal · 04-29-2009, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

i'm available to do whatever the consensus is that i need to do today

it's looking like either food distribution or organizing, but since you're not going on the mission you've got time to see where the other people are gonna fit in, and hopefully to see if schmidty is a x3 organizer

Lathum · 04-29-2009, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

I could be wrong -- the easy way to solve it is to tell me who your fourth is, besides you, EagleFan, and Danny.

I'll have to wait until later to look, I am already running late and need to shower so I don't stink like day old vodka. Was hoping I would have time to rub one out but reading this thread has killed that dream.

The Jackal · 04-29-2009, 11:23 AM

classic post

PurdueBrad · 04-29-2009, 11:25 AM

Wow Lathum, I may have to put that in my sig for you to remember, always.

Passacaglia · 04-29-2009, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

I'll have to wait until later to look, I am already running late and need to shower so I don't stink like day old vodka. Was hoping I would have time to rub one out but reading this thread has killed that dream.

You don't find my lists sexy? ):

Autumn · 04-29-2009, 11:28 AM

I haven't found a lot of threads at FOFC that were conducive to rubbing one out, frankly, Lathum.

jeheinz72 · 04-29-2009, 11:33 AM

That post was awesome Lathum.

jeheinz72 · 04-29-2009, 11:34 AM

My afternoon is shaping up as busier than expected, so I'm getting this in now. I *should* be around to check if I need to move, but this seems like the spot we'll mostly likely need some x1 assistance

WORK ON FOOD

The Jackal · 04-29-2009, 11:35 AM

patrol - CR (x3), USFL (x3), Autumn (x2?) (8/6)
food distribution - Lathum (x3), BK, EF (x3), PB, heinz (9/15)
organization - clap, ntn (x3) (4/8)

mission - Poli, RendeR, Jackal, TheNorm

idle - Schmidty, Pass, dubb, DT, Danny

dubb93 · 04-29-2009, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by The Jackal

patrol - CR (x3), USFL (x3), Autumn (x2?) (8/6)
food distribution - Lathum (x3), BK, EF (x3), PB, heinz (9/15)
organization - clap, ntn (x3) (4/8)

mission - Poli, RendeR, Jackal, TheNorm

idle - Schmidty, Pass, dubb, DT, Danny

Going by this I will...

Work on food distribution

04-29-2009, 11:19 AM	#590
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04-29-2009, 10:40 AM	#551
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	I agree, Pass. I'm thinking at this point that we may want to have everybody off the mission for the moment. If we get enough reveals and workers by the mission deadline we can switch a couple people back. It would suck to lose a camp just for the sake of a couple items, maybe. Glad to see Path wasn't an organizer though.

04-29-2009, 10:43 AM	#552
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	I'm hesitant to stay back from the mission. If we send no one and have everyone working on camps there's gonna be wolves there anyways (whether they fake or not) - and if we outright lose the mission, who's to say the wolves don't automatically receive any items? I think I'm going to stay put for now.

04-29-2009, 10:45 AM	#553
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	on a completely unrelated note, i'm a college starter, woo!

04-29-2009, 10:48 AM	#554
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	Grr. So we've had both ntn and TheNorm pop in here and not do anything to help us out with some info. And my guess is that Schmidty is not likely to be here in time for the mission. I really really don't want to, but we've got to start working on what we should do if no one is an organizer.

04-29-2009, 10:50 AM	#555
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	Patrol -- 2 (both at x3) Food -- 9 (3 at x3, 6 at x1) Organize -- 8 (all at x1) That's all 19 of us. I wonder if that's not a coincidence. And we are ripe for faking then. 9 on food and 9 on organizing? Sheesh.

04-29-2009, 10:50 AM	#556
ntndeacon Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Alabama	Yes Autumn I am an organizer. this is why I have done both days activities. the first day's mission in organizing the rescue effort, my specialty was something that could have been in play. today my specialty is needed more in the winning of the camp.

04-29-2009, 10:50 AM	#557
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	I really hope we don't have to do that, but I guess we've got some time before we need to worry.

04-29-2009, 10:51 AM	#558
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	Whew.

04-29-2009, 10:56 AM	#560
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	Ntndeacon, can you confirm if you're 2x or 3x?

04-29-2009, 10:57 AM	#562
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	Pass, I don't think we have a lot of time. We've got about an hour until mission deadline and if nobody shifts off of that then we're stuck with what we've got, which may not be enough.

04-29-2009, 10:57 AM	#563
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	I think we have 3 hours until mission deadline, don't we?

04-29-2009, 10:58 AM	#564
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	Yeah, mission orders due at 3. We've got some time.

04-29-2009, 10:59 AM	#566
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	Who is on the mission right now besides me? Poli?

04-29-2009, 11:08 AM	#578
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	Clearly we've got Sympathizers going on the mission at this point. Norm, you either have not caught up yet or are choosing to help the Sympathizers by going on the mission. I'm glad the deadline's later than I thought.

04-29-2009, 11:10 AM	#579
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	Even though I think Schmidty is an organizer, I want to look at worst-case scenario (that he isn't one): Patrol -- 2 (both x3) Food -- 9 (3 at x3, 6 at x1) Organizing -- 6 (1 at x3, 5 at x1) (both x3) That's 17 of 19. If we go based on this assumption, I think it's best if we just punt on the mission, and have none of the searchers go -- that seems more fair than choosing 2 of the searchers that get to go, and I'd rather just not get the items than let wolves get them.

04-29-2009, 11:11 AM	#580
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	With Schmidty as an organizer: Patrol -- 2 (both x3) Food -- 9 (3 at x3, 6 at x1) Organizing -- 4 (2 at x3, 2 at x1) Which puts us at 15 of 19. The three searchers, would get to go, plus one more....TheNorm, I guess. It would be nice to have backup for the food.

04-29-2009, 11:14 AM	#583
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	I think this is what we have, feel free to correct: patrol - CR (x3), USFL (x3), Autumn (x2?) (8/6) food distribution - Lathum (x3), BK, EF (x3), PB (8/15) organization (8) - clap, ntn (x3) (4/8) mission - Poli, RendeR, Jackal, TheNorm idle - Schmidty, Pass, dubb, DT, Danny, heinz

04-29-2009, 11:15 AM	#584
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	Didn't format that as nicely as I wanted, but you get the idea. Norm is suggesting he has a skill that could be helpful on the mission but hasn't been revealed yet? Very strange. And I don't know if people are going to mesh with four of us not working on the camps.

04-29-2009, 11:16 AM	#586
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	Who's x3 besides you and EF? I certainly could've missed a post.

04-29-2009, 11:18 AM	#588
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	Ah, I see Danny is x3 as well but was seeing how his mass-mission idea would work. Dubb also said he might go on the mission - but I assume these two will stay in the camps.

04-29-2009, 11:23 AM	#593
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	classic post

04-29-2009, 11:25 AM	#594
PurdueBrad Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DeKalb, IL	Wow Lathum, I may have to put that in my sig for you to remember, always.

04-29-2009, 11:28 AM	#596
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	I haven't found a lot of threads at FOFC that were conducive to rubbing one out, frankly, Lathum.

04-29-2009, 11:35 AM	#599
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	patrol - CR (x3), USFL (x3), Autumn (x2?) (8/6) food distribution - Lathum (x3), BK, EF (x3), PB, heinz (9/15) organization - clap, ntn (x3) (4/8) mission - Poli, RendeR, Jackal, TheNorm idle - Schmidty, Pass, dubb, DT, Danny

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