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Old 11-07-2020, 08:52 PM   #151
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My twelve year old set a alarm that just went off. He wants to hear Biden’s speech. What world have I just entered?

My 10 year old is loving every minute of it.

What may be better is we took my 21 year old niece and her boyfriend to dinner tonight and had intelligent and engaging conversation about the election. They are both smart kids, but their understanding of this election and politics in general was way better than mine was at that age.
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Old 11-07-2020, 08:52 PM   #152
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Feel like 20 pounds was lifted from my shoulders
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Old 11-07-2020, 08:53 PM   #153
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Love it, but he's veering towards the mistake Obama made defining his success as overcoming partisanship.

Where?
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Old 11-07-2020, 08:53 PM   #154
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Harris was amazing.

Anyone notice neither of them have mentioned Trump?
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Old 11-07-2020, 08:55 PM   #155
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Harris was amazing.

Anyone notice neither of them have mentioned Trump?

I am impressed and hopeful and relieved

EDIT: And inspired
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Old 11-07-2020, 08:55 PM   #156
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How does Tru,mp overcome that?
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Old 11-07-2020, 08:55 PM   #157
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Biden totally landed the ending of that speech. Never knew he could give such an inspiring speech.

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Old 11-07-2020, 08:56 PM   #158
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We need to cooperate and that's what I plan to do and I'll call on Congress to do the same.

They need a message for when McConnell inevitably says no. What do they do when the GOP doesn't want to cooperate? Obama didn't have a good answer for that.
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Old 11-07-2020, 08:56 PM   #159
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Just unreal how different this all is after the past four years.
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Old 11-07-2020, 08:57 PM   #160
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Biden totally landed the ending of that speech. Never knew he could give such an inspiring speech.

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Until the God bless our church that he thought about fixing but realized it was too late.
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Old 11-07-2020, 08:59 PM   #161
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Just unreal how different this all is after the past four years.

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It is amazing to see a speech about unity, love for family, and what a young lady can be when she grows up and works hard. The contrast versus hateful chants, petty name calling, and attacks on the media and fellow Americans could not be more apparent. I am truly sad for anyone who doesn't see the amount of love already coming from this upcoming administration is so good for the mental well being of our nation. We can disagree all day on policy and the best way to govern, we can not disagree on the importance of dignity and honor.
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Old 11-07-2020, 08:59 PM   #162
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I hope that the countries atmosphere is different.

I hope they see what they had in Trump and cooperate in the exact opposite way of the last 4 years.

I hope Biden is a leader.

I hope Harris governs and has some great ideas she can make work. Free healthcare, more money for education.
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Old 11-07-2020, 09:02 PM   #163
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I hope that the countries atmosphere is different.

I hope they see what they had in Trump and cooperate in the exact opposite way of the last 4 years.

I hope Biden is a leader.

I hope Harris governs and has some great ideas she can make work. Free healthcare, more money for education.

The question is will Mcconnell let them?

Joe has already started to.
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Old 11-07-2020, 09:15 PM   #164
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Old 11-07-2020, 09:24 PM   #165
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Andrew Yang is moving to Georgia to help with the Senate campaign. He is trying to get his "Yang Gang" all to come and be apart.

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Old 11-07-2020, 09:26 PM   #166
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My just turned 19 year old (Today), came home from college this past weekend. She works at 6 flags and needs money. She stayed with us until Tuesday, so she could vote. My 20 year old said she voted.

Happy I raised them right.

Frankly it depends on who she voted in this fucked up election sorry to say.
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Old 11-07-2020, 09:35 PM   #167
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I was just about as good a speech as he could’ve given under the circumstances.
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Old 11-07-2020, 09:38 PM   #168
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100%, I am proud to be an American again and an immigrant who has flourished in this great country!

Great to here!
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Old 11-07-2020, 09:39 PM   #169
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My just turned 19 year old (Today), came home from college this past weekend. She works at 6 flags and needs money. She stayed with us until Tuesday, so she could vote. My 20 year old said she voted.

Happy I raised them right.

Frankly it depends on who she voted in this fucked up election sorry to say.
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Old 11-07-2020, 09:41 PM   #170
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Great speech overall. So happy to have some dignity restored. We will see how much policy can get done but this should help the healing, unity and dignity of the country
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Old 11-07-2020, 09:42 PM   #171
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I was just about as good a speech as he could’ve given under the circumstances.

It's the first time in a couple of years that I've had some serious hope. Like I get that it'll be dashed the minute he tries to do something in the Senate, but it was the right message at the right time. Biden's combination of empathetic mourner and unifier is what we really need right now. Let's hope it works.

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Old 11-07-2020, 09:42 PM   #172
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Take from just about the biggest news plattform/weekly in germany. No pressure

Thought both speeches were good
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Old 11-07-2020, 09:47 PM   #173
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Felt good to take a moment to breath today.

Now they just need to prevent trump from trashing the country out of tantrum over the next two months.
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Old 11-07-2020, 09:49 PM   #174
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dola: or does he step down and turn it over to Pence, he does have a history of running away once the consequences of his mismanagement start to take shape.
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Old 11-07-2020, 09:54 PM   #175
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Frankly it depends on who she voted in this fucked up election sorry to say.

Yeah, people shouldn't be allowed to vote if their opinion differs from yours. Shut up, you idiot.
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Old 11-07-2020, 10:11 PM   #176
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Yang Sec of Treasury?

I like Yang (got his t-shirt for the novelty) but think he is too lightweight for that Top-5 post. Maybe deputy and prime him for 2nd term?
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Old 11-07-2020, 10:12 PM   #177
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Biden should put Hillary as AG and let her go after Trump

Love this idea!
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Old 11-07-2020, 10:17 PM   #178
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Will Pete be VA Secretary or UN Ambassador? I'm guessing Ron Klain is Chief of staff. Susan Rice at State, Sally Yates or Doug Jones at AG. Not sure about the others. Probably can't take any dem senators with an R governor(Warren, Bernie) out of the Senate.

I like Susan Rice as Secretary of State. As a former National Security Advisor, she is well aware of all the threats (and assume realities of China).
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Old 11-07-2020, 10:22 PM   #179
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ambassadors are what you give to people that are terrible at public speaking and no one cares about

Other than for the most important countries, I've read ambassadors are "thank you for your contribution/support to my campaign/me"
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Old 11-07-2020, 10:42 PM   #180
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Don't know how long it will last, but my conservative friends are swearing off Fox News and Facebook for being too liberal.
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Old 11-07-2020, 11:15 PM   #181
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If they could get off of Twitter too that would be great.
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Old 11-07-2020, 11:20 PM   #182
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Yeah why do they keep talking about going to Parler on other social media sites. Just go already.

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Old 11-08-2020, 07:32 AM   #183
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FWIW, woke up this morning, got a cup of coffee, started reading news, and then realized ...

Hope majority of us that voted for Biden enjoyed yesterday. Remember the feeling. Likely the peak of euphoria and better than fair chance it all goes downhill politically from here.

Biden is the proverbial "in between a rock (GOP) and hard place (radical left)" and has coronavirus event to deal with.
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Old 11-08-2020, 08:07 AM   #184
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Cool that he is a dog person and has a rescue German Shepard.

Joe Biden's Major to Be First Rescue Dog in White House | PEOPLE.com
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For the first time in four years, dogs are heading back to the White House thanks to president-elect Joe Biden, who won the election over Donald Trump on Saturday.

Biden's German shepherd, Major, will also make history as the first rescue dog to live at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, according to NBC News.

The Biden family adopted Major from the Delaware Humane Association in November 2018, 10 years after the couple welcomed their first German shepherd, Champ.

“We are so happy to welcome Major to the Biden family, and we are grateful to the Delaware Humane Association for their work in finding forever homes for Major and countless other animals,” the Bidens said in a statement at the time.
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Old 11-08-2020, 08:47 AM   #185
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We know how Parler is going to end up, it's going to become 4-Chan. If there's really no content moderation, once it reaches enough users, it will start to fill up with violent and abusive content, pornography, endless spam and bots, etc. These people are looking for a Q friendly Twitter, but there's no money in that.
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Old 11-08-2020, 08:49 AM   #186
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FWIW, woke up this morning, got a cup of coffee, started reading news, and then realized ...

Hope majority of us that voted for Biden enjoyed yesterday. Remember the feeling. Likely the peak of euphoria and better than fair chance it all goes downhill politically from here.

Biden is the proverbial "in between a rock (GOP) and hard place (radical left)" and has coronavirus event to deal with.

I still don't know what the radical left is? People who want clean energy? People who want healthcare?
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Old 11-08-2020, 09:36 AM   #187
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I think I know how Trump is going to steal the election, or at least try. They are going to wait until very late into the process before filing any actual fraud claims. They have only up to this point tried to slow down the counting (and notice they did that even in states where he was down). What they are trying to do is run out the clock on certification. If they can delay the count for so long, then delay the recounts for so long they can prevent certification by the state legislated days. What happens if an election never gets certified? My understanding the electors will be chosen by the state legislatures. They will file suits in GOP controlled states, enough to over turn the election. Meanwhile, there is no way that trials would ever finish in time. It is simple playing out the clock. His people will be fine with it since they already believe that the election is stolen.

Will it work? It is really up to the courts. Would they put a stay on certifying the election without some real evidence?

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Old 11-08-2020, 09:39 AM   #188
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I think I know how Trump is going to steal the election, or at least try. They are going to wait until very late into the process before filing any actual fraud claims. They have only up to this point tried to slow down the counting (and notice they did that even in states where he was down). What they are trying to do is run out the clock on certification. If they can delay the count for so long, then delay the recounts for so long they can prevent certification by the state legislated days. What happens if an election never gets certified? My understanding the electors will be chosen by the state legislatures. They will file suits in GOP controlled states, enough to over turn the election. Meanwhile, there is no way that trials would ever finish in time. It is simple playing out the clock. His people will be fine with it since they already believe that the election is stolen.

Will it work? It is really up to the courts. Would they put a stay on certifying the election without some real evidence?

Interesting scenario, never thought of this. I have to believe Biden's lawyers have put this in their "risk register" and have/will formulate a defense.
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Old 11-08-2020, 09:47 AM   #189
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Pennsylvania's state Senate Majority leader (GOP) a couple days ago

“The PA election code says electors go to the popular vote winner. The Legislature has no ability to appoint electors.”
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Old 11-08-2020, 09:56 AM   #190
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This from the Detriot Free Press:
Dec. 8 — “Safe Harbor” deadline

The Electoral Count Act, which Congress passed in 1887, contains a “safe harbor” clause that frees a state from further legal challenge if it certifies its election results at least six days before the state’s electors meet. That means that if the state issues a final tally of the votes cast in its presidential contest by Dec. 8, 2020, Congress is required to accept the state’s electoral votes. If legal disputes remain unresolved, Congress could decide which slate of electoral votes to count.
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Old 11-08-2020, 10:16 AM   #191
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Until the God bless our church that he thought about fixing but realized it was too late.

He said "troops" not "church. Not sure where you watched it but I checked it out on youtube (working while it was live) and one station had a close up of Joe as he made the comment and you can clearly read his lips.

The first one I watched, as he made this comment, was from far away and I thought of your comment and went "huh, I think that is troops, not church". Found this video that is right on Biden as he makes the comment. Approx. the 15 minute mark "may God protect our troops"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkqWtrj1oAk
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Old 11-08-2020, 10:18 AM   #192
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He has said God bless out troops at the end of almost every time I saw him speak.
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Old 11-08-2020, 11:49 AM   #193
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Yeah why do they keep talking about going to Parler on other social media sites. Just go already.

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Old 11-08-2020, 11:56 AM   #194
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He said "troops" not "church. Not sure where you watched it but I checked it out on youtube (working while it was live) and one station had a close up of Joe as he made the comment and you can clearly read his lips.

The first one I watched, as he made this comment, was from far away and I thought of your comment and went "huh, I think that is troops, not church". Found this video that is right on Biden as he makes the comment. Approx. the 15 minute mark "may God protect our troops"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkqWtrj1oAk

I must have misheard.
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Old 11-08-2020, 11:57 AM   #195
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I still don't know what the radical left is? People who want clean energy? People who want healthcare?

And I'm certain that whoever they are, they don't have much of any power.
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Old 11-08-2020, 12:09 PM   #196
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This kind of BS is why Biden is ultimately going to fail in unifying the country, regardless of how badly he wants it and tries. Things are only going to get worse, not better. I hope I'm wrong. I hope the same way 4 years of constantly listening to Trump caused tensions to boil over, perhaps 4 years of listening to calm grandpa will have an effect on the collective American psyche. But as long as the right is listening to and believing this crap, it won't happen.

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Old 11-08-2020, 12:12 PM   #197
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In addition to the coronavirus task first, here are some "quick" wins Biden is thinking about via executive orders.

When will he announce his cabinet (or at least the top posts)?

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he will reverse President Trump’s withdrawal from the World Health Organization.

He will repeal the ban on almost all travel from some Muslim-majority countries,

and he will reinstate the program allowing “dreamers,” who were brought to the United States illegally as children, to remain in the country, according to people familiar with his plans.
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Old 11-08-2020, 12:34 PM   #198
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I must have misheard.

Yeah, totally understand. If I hadn't read your post and been listening closely I'm not sure what I would have heard. Add to that I had to find the close view video to confirm what I thought I heard
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Old 11-08-2020, 12:38 PM   #200
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I still don't know what the radical left is? People who want clean energy? People who want healthcare?

Communists, people who want to defund the police (by defunding I mean eliminate), people who want to release everyone from prison, etc...
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