2029 FA2:3-5 Complete

Ben E Lou · 07-13-2009, 04:19 AM

DAILY DOZEN: Most Noteworthy Signings

NOS	DE Shannon Blades (73/73)	Signed as an unrestricted free agent from Miami	3yrs, $25.2M
MIA	DE Don Coleman (64/64)	Signed as an unrestricted free agent from New Orleans	3yrs, $23.3M
MIA	WR Brad Kelly (56/56)	Signed as an unrestricted free agent from San Francisco	3yrs, $22.1M
MIA	DT Louie Doyle (54/54)	Signed as an unrestricted free agent from San Diego	4yrs, $35.0M
MIA	RB Vernon Stevenson (42/46)	Signed as an unrestricted free agent from Minnesota	6yrs, $54.0M
JAX	WR Shawn Dunlap (46/47)	Signed as an unrestricted free agent from Minnesota	4yrs, $26.6M
MIA	TE Rex Eaves (77/77)	Signed as an unrestricted free agent from Jacksonville	3yrs, $14.5M
IND	G Orlando Colman (69/69)	Signed as an unrestricted free agent from San Diego	3yrs, $13.7M
KCY	S Harris Fitzgerald (63/63)	Signed as an unrestricted free agent from Tampa Bay	3yrs, $12.1M
MIA	CB Dana Estevez (49/49)	Signed as an unrestricted free agent from Pittsburgh	3yrs, $12.9M
TEN	QB Anthony Coxwell (31/42)	Signed as an unrestricted free agent from Cincinnati	5yrs, $22.0M
ATL	T Deion Burton (56/56)	Signed as an unrestricted free agent from Cincinnati	3yrs, $12.2M

Ben E Lou · 07-13-2009, 04:20 AM

FOWL TRANSACTIONS

Alan T · 07-13-2009, 06:05 AM

Hmm. I guess I spent all of my money. Well.. bring on the season!

QuikSand · 07-13-2009, 07:06 AM

Rats.

QuikSand · 07-13-2009, 07:10 AM

Looks like we need a new file, too.

gstelmack · 07-13-2009, 08:51 AM

Now to see if I have a starting lineup, let alone enough players to fill a team...

gstelmack · 07-13-2009, 08:52 AM

And yup, need an actual file.

gstelmack · 07-13-2009, 09:04 AM

Okay, looks like something didn't flip on the textsports.net site. The file is there through the calendar link, it's just not "current" and uploads are not active yet.

gstelmack · 07-13-2009, 09:12 AM

Ah crap, apparently I forgot to actually upload. Grrr.....

gstelmack · 07-13-2009, 09:16 AM

Ignore my rantings, apparently textsports.net has not advanced to 2029, so I was looking at the 2028 calendar and files.

Ben E Lou · 07-13-2009, 09:27 AM

Oops. Looks like I forgot to upload the file. Gimme a sec..

gstelmack · 07-13-2009, 09:42 AM

Can you also poke the textsports.net guys to tell the site it's 2029 instead of 2028?

gstelmack · 07-13-2009, 09:59 AM

Everything looks better now.

wade moore · 07-13-2009, 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gstelmack

Ignore my rantings, apparently textsports.net has not advanced to 2029, so I was looking at the 2028 calendar and files.

Oopsie - my fault, I'll fix now.

gstelmack · 07-13-2009, 10:01 AM

Except for the fact that it still looks like I failed to actually upload. Sigh.

Tasan · 07-13-2009, 11:59 AM

So even in multiplayer, guys will turn down offers they just plain don't like? I was under the impression that if a guy had a contract offer, he'd take it at this stage.

gstelmack · 07-13-2009, 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tasan

So even in multiplayer, guys will turn down offers they just plain don't like? I was under the impression that if a guy had a contract offer, he'd take it at this stage.

There are certain lowballs they won't even look at (they seem to get rejected on import). Since we have to give three-year contracts, my guess is a bonus way too low for him to even look at for a 3-year deal.

TheMeat · 07-13-2009, 01:24 PM

Ya, MinSal will still get rejected by guys looking for serious contracts, but it doesn't take much more than MinSal, $100k or so per year will usually get considered IIRC.

Tasan · 07-13-2009, 01:39 PM

My offers were well over minsal, 200K+ bonuses per year. Interesting.

Well, that's off the top of my head. Let me double check.

Tasan · 07-13-2009, 01:45 PM

Even more interesting. The DE that turned me down rejected 2 mil in bonus with vet mins of 1.11 mil over 3 years. The S turned down 1 mil bonus with 1.11 mil per season over 3 years.

Tasan · 07-13-2009, 01:46 PM

Nevermind, I'm not sure what this means right now.

chinaski · 07-13-2009, 01:47 PM

Sweet, got just about everyone we targeted, including a good RB for once!

Ben E Lou · 07-13-2009, 01:49 PM

Tasan, I did some testing on this in this very forum maybe 5-6 seasons ago when I managed to get a solid QB to sign for the veteran minimum. I'll try to find it later if someone hasn't already referenced it, but the bottom line is that the threshold is quite a bit above minsal, but it's pretty low.

chinaski · 07-13-2009, 01:49 PM

We also have more undrafted players on our roster than drafted for the first time.

Tasan · 07-13-2009, 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ben E Lou

Tasan, I did some testing on this in this very forum maybe 5-6 seasons ago when I managed to get a solid QB to sign for the veteran minimum. I'll try to find it later if someone hasn't already referenced it, but the bottom line is that the threshold is quite a bit above minsal, but it's pretty low.

Thanks Ben. The only thing I was remembering was the testing done to see what it takes for one contract with a high bonus to beat out a high base. If you can find that, I'd love to take a look at it. I usually try to make sure I read your testing threads.

Ben E Lou · 07-13-2009, 02:22 PM

Yes, that was it. It was in that same thread. The intent of the thread was the high bonus vs. high base stuff, but the side comments noted were that:

1. lowballs get rejected at the point of import
2. the threshold for what defines a lowball is very low

johnnyshaka · 07-13-2009, 04:00 PM

I forget...any offer to a UFA from here on in is fair game, correct?

gstelmack · 07-13-2009, 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Consolidated League Rules Thread

All contracts to UFAs must be for three years or longer. (Your own RFAs may receive any contract you'd like.) Any exports violating this will be removed

The thread is stickied.

chinaski · 07-13-2009, 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnnyshaka

I forget...any offer to a UFA from here on in is fair game, correct?

You can sign any player at this point for any length of time. The 3 year minimum only applies during free agency.

johnnyshaka · 07-13-2009, 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chinaski

You can sign any player at this point for any length of time. The 3 year minimum only applies during free agency.

Thanks.

Greg, I re-read that thread several times and it still didn't make much sense to me...for whatever reason. I suppose not knowing the proper "names" for each period of the offseason is to blame.

chinaski · 07-13-2009, 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnnyshaka

Thanks.

Greg, I re-read that thread several times and it still didn't make much sense to me...for whatever reason. I suppose not knowing the proper "names" for each period of the offseason is to blame.

Might want to wait on Ben's word on this one actually. I was thinking post training camp.

I *think* players wont sign anything longer than a one year deal post TC, but they will pre TC....so then the 3 year minimum would/should still apply.

Alan T · 07-13-2009, 05:04 PM

There were signings of less than 3 years last year during training camp, so I assume that it is fine:

2028 Training Camp Complete (Change Tracker Results Attached) - Front Office Football Central

Ben E Lou · 07-13-2009, 05:07 PM

Free Agency is over now. One-year deals are fine.

johnnyshaka · 07-13-2009, 05:08 PM

LOL...and I was one of those who had a few "less than 3-year" deals last season.

Nothing to see here...carry on.

Ben E Lou · 07-13-2009, 05:09 PM

For better clarity, I changed the wording to:

Quote:

All contracts to UFAs during FA2:1-5 must be for three years or longer. Any exports violating this will be removed.

gstelmack · 07-13-2009, 05:36 PM

Crap! Now to see if I have time to redo my export. On the other hand, I need guys, so maybe the required bonus money for a 3-year deal will put me over what anyone else is doing.

Suicane75 · 07-13-2009, 07:47 PM

The Temple Owls are ready to fly!

07-13-2009, 04:20 AM	#2
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07-13-2009, 06:05 AM	#3
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07-13-2009, 08:51 AM	#6
gstelmack Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Cary, NC	Now to see if I have a starting lineup, let alone enough players to fill a team... __________________ -- Greg -- Author of various FOF utilities

07-13-2009, 08:52 AM	#7
gstelmack Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Cary, NC	And yup, need an actual file. __________________ -- Greg -- Author of various FOF utilities

07-13-2009, 09:04 AM	#8
gstelmack Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Cary, NC	Okay, looks like something didn't flip on the textsports.net site. The file is there through the calendar link, it's just not "current" and uploads are not active yet. __________________ -- Greg -- Author of various FOF utilities

07-13-2009, 07:06 AM	#4
QuikSand lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Annapolis, Md	Rats.

07-13-2009, 07:10 AM	#5
QuikSand lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Annapolis, Md	Looks like we need a new file, too.

07-13-2009, 09:12 AM	#9
gstelmack Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Cary, NC	Ah crap, apparently I forgot to actually upload. Grrr..... __________________ -- Greg -- Author of various FOF utilities

07-13-2009, 09:16 AM	#10
gstelmack Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Cary, NC	Ignore my rantings, apparently textsports.net has not advanced to 2029, so I was looking at the 2028 calendar and files. __________________ -- Greg -- Author of various FOF utilities

07-13-2009, 09:27 AM	#11
Ben E Lou Morgado's Favorite Forum Fascist Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Greensboro, NC	Oops. Looks like I forgot to upload the file. Gimme a sec.. __________________ The media don't understand the kinds of problems and pressures 54 million come wit'!

07-13-2009, 09:42 AM	#12
gstelmack Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Cary, NC	Can you also poke the textsports.net guys to tell the site it's 2029 instead of 2028? __________________ -- Greg -- Author of various FOF utilities

07-13-2009, 09:59 AM	#13
gstelmack Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Cary, NC	Everything looks better now. __________________ -- Greg -- Author of various FOF utilities

07-13-2009, 10:01 AM	#15
gstelmack Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Cary, NC	Except for the fact that it still looks like I failed to actually upload. Sigh. __________________ -- Greg -- Author of various FOF utilities

07-13-2009, 11:59 AM	#16
Tasan College Starter Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Houston, or there about	So even in multiplayer, guys will turn down offers they just plain don't like? I was under the impression that if a guy had a contract offer, he'd take it at this stage. __________________ 2011 Golden Scribes winner for best Interactive Dynasty

07-13-2009, 01:24 PM	#18
TheMeat n00b Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Alberta	Ya, MinSal will still get rejected by guys looking for serious contracts, but it doesn't take much more than MinSal, $100k or so per year will usually get considered IIRC. __________________ Owner/GM/Head Coach and Towel Boy for the St. Louis Rams.of the FOWL Owner of the Green Bay Packers of the PFL. First Response Coordinator of Public Relations Disasters for the Balzac Ticklers of the FOOLX. (retired) Owner/GM of the soon to be awesome Fort Worth Fury of the IHOF

07-13-2009, 01:39 PM	#19
Tasan College Starter Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Houston, or there about	My offers were well over minsal, 200K+ bonuses per year. Interesting. Well, that's off the top of my head. Let me double check. __________________ 2011 Golden Scribes winner for best Interactive Dynasty Last edited by Tasan : 07-13-2009 at 01:40 PM.

07-13-2009, 01:45 PM	#20
Tasan College Starter Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Houston, or there about	Even more interesting. The DE that turned me down rejected 2 mil in bonus with vet mins of 1.11 mil over 3 years. The S turned down 1 mil bonus with 1.11 mil per season over 3 years. __________________ 2011 Golden Scribes winner for best Interactive Dynasty

07-13-2009, 01:46 PM	#21
Tasan College Starter Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Houston, or there about	Nevermind, I'm not sure what this means right now. __________________ 2011 Golden Scribes winner for best Interactive Dynasty Last edited by Tasan : 07-13-2009 at 01:46 PM.

07-13-2009, 01:47 PM	#22
chinaski College Prospect Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Portland, Oregon	Sweet, got just about everyone we targeted, including a good RB for once! __________________ CCFL - Buffalo Bills IHOF - Houston Mustangs GML - San Diego

07-13-2009, 01:49 PM	#23
Ben E Lou Morgado's Favorite Forum Fascist Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Greensboro, NC	Tasan, I did some testing on this in this very forum maybe 5-6 seasons ago when I managed to get a solid QB to sign for the veteran minimum. I'll try to find it later if someone hasn't already referenced it, but the bottom line is that the threshold is quite a bit above minsal, but it's pretty low. __________________ The media don't understand the kinds of problems and pressures 54 million come wit'!

07-13-2009, 02:22 PM	#26
Ben E Lou Morgado's Favorite Forum Fascist Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Greensboro, NC	Yes, that was it. It was in that same thread. The intent of the thread was the high bonus vs. high base stuff, but the side comments noted were that: 1. lowballs get rejected at the point of import 2. the threshold for what defines a lowball is very low __________________ The media don't understand the kinds of problems and pressures 54 million come wit'!

07-13-2009, 04:00 PM	#27
johnnyshaka College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Edmonton, AB	I forget...any offer to a UFA from here on in is fair game, correct?

07-13-2009, 05:04 PM	#32
Alan T Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mass.	There were signings of less than 3 years last year during training camp, so I assume that it is fine: 2028 Training Camp Complete (Change Tracker Results Attached) - Front Office Football Central __________________ Couch to ??k - From the couch to a Marathon in roughly 18 months.

07-13-2009, 05:07 PM	#33
Ben E Lou Morgado's Favorite Forum Fascist Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Greensboro, NC	Free Agency is over now. One-year deals are fine. __________________ The media don't understand the kinds of problems and pressures 54 million come wit'!

07-13-2009, 05:08 PM	#34
johnnyshaka College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Edmonton, AB	LOL...and I was one of those who had a few "less than 3-year" deals last season. Nothing to see here...carry on.

07-13-2009, 05:36 PM	#36
gstelmack Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Cary, NC	Crap! Now to see if I have time to redo my export. On the other hand, I need guys, so maybe the required bonus money for a 3-year deal will put me over what anyone else is doing. __________________ -- Greg -- Author of various FOF utilities

07-13-2009, 07:47 PM	#37
Suicane75 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: NJ	The Temple Owls are ready to fly!

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