2032 Training Camp Complete (Change Tracker Results Attached)

Ben E Lou · 08-25-2009, 05:59 AM

http://textsports.net/files/fowl/203...ing%20Camp.zip

gstelmack · 08-25-2009, 07:41 AM

Nice hit on my two corners.

Nice miss on the three WRs.

So it's a wash.

wade moore · 08-25-2009, 07:53 AM

Well, let's see...

We get the biggest bump of any player from our 13th year QB...

One of the top 5 bumps from a rookie that wasn't a P/K...

A 5/6 bump on our 10th year S...

All around, I'm pretty happy with this TC.

Subby · 08-25-2009, 08:33 AM

Good camp for our primary rookie signing, DE Larry Williford (+5, +2).

Alan T · 08-25-2009, 08:37 AM

I missed most of this offseason due to computer upgrading. Only picked up a few minimal new players. So nothing earth shattering for us this season.

QuikSand · 08-25-2009, 01:18 PM

May be time to blow up the Ravens and rebuild the whole thing here. No way we're a bye week team this season.

QuikSand · 08-25-2009, 01:31 PM

Everything lookin' good in Green Bay, though.

Seriously, is there a switch that needs to get flipped over there?

TheMeat · 08-25-2009, 02:14 PM

Ya, that's a mighty fine roster they're sportin, everyone disregard the Lion's and Bear's stats for the next couple years, they'll be inflated

I'd been under the impression that the unclaimed teams were on CPU control but they don't seem to bid on FA's. Are they set to user-controlled so that they don't do anything but fill their rosters at the beginning of the year? I guess it'sd make more sense that way.

And it's good to hear your not expecting much QS, then I won't feel bad when my team FINALLY breaks out this year and wins their first division title!

As far as TC went for me, the MLB rookie I payed 24mil for started unmasking his RunDef as we knew he would and is on his way towards 90 ovr. Finally a star LB, that completes my defense.

Ben E Lou · 08-25-2009, 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMeat

I'd been under the impression that the unclaimed teams were on CPU control but they don't seem to bid on FA's. Are they set to user-controlled so that they don't do anything but fill their rosters at the beginning of the year? I guess it'sd make more sense that way.

Well, the problem is our house rules, specifically, the three-year contract rule. With as many AI teams as we would have, trying to figure out if an illegal offer is from an AI team or a human is just too cumbersome. If we can get the human-run count back into the upper 20s or better, making the list of AI teams small enough to remember easily, I'll put 'em back on AI.

cthomer5000 · 08-25-2009, 03:03 PM

I'd be lying if I said the presence of only 1 human owner wasn't a factor in picking a team in this division.

wade moore · 08-25-2009, 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ben E Lou

Well, the problem is our house rules, specifically, the three-year contract rule. With as many AI teams as we would have, trying to figure out if an illegal offer is from an AI team or a human is just too cumbersome. If we can get the human-run count back into the upper 20s or better, making the list of AI teams small enough to remember easily, I'll put 'em back on AI.

In theory, could you not tie the code back to your owners table? Throw out results for teams with "UNCLAIMED"?

Ben E Lou · 08-25-2009, 07:35 PM

Wade, are you insane?

PROCESS NOW:
All I have to do is import, look at the offers and check for numbers < 3 in the year column.If someone has offered too short a deal, remove that export, and since I haven't saved anything, just reload and re-import. Time elapsed: 30-45 seconds

YOUR PROCESS
The process you're suggesting would require an import, sim stage, DBUpdater run, check of the signings via code. And then I'd have to revert everything back to the way it was. Re-download file, remove transactions from the database, etc. etc. etc. Time elapsed: 15-20 minutes.

No.

gstelmack · 08-25-2009, 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ben E Lou

PROCESS NOW:
All I have to do is import, look at the offers and check for numbers < 3 in the year column.If someone has offered too short a deal, remove that export, and since I haven't saved anything, just reload and re-import. Time elapsed: 30-45 seconds

I'm missing something: where do you see the offers? You can see the top offer, but where do you see ALL offers?

wade moore · 08-25-2009, 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ben E Lou

Wade, are you insane?

PROCESS NOW:
All I have to do is import, look at the offers and check for numbers < 3 in the year column.If someone has offered too short a deal, remove that export, and since I haven't saved anything, just reload and re-import. Time elapsed: 30-45 seconds

YOUR PROCESS
The process you're suggesting would require an import, sim stage, DBUpdater run, check of the signings via code. And then I'd have to revert everything back to the way it was. Re-download file, remove transactions from the database, etc. etc. etc. Time elapsed: 15-20 minutes.

No.

Sorry - thought you were using the same method you use in the other leagues where you have code that does it.

Ben E Lou · 08-26-2009, 04:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gstelmack

I'm missing something: where do you see the offers? You can see the top offer, but where do you see ALL offers?

Can't see all offers, but no one is trying to cheat. They just forget. As a result, they do one of two things:

1. the only illegal offers they make are to scrubs that no one else offers, so I see them
2. they offer a bunch of illegal offers, and at least one (usually several) are the highest/only offer

It's not a perfect system. The only perfect system would be to look at every player offered a contract, and click on the "view offers" button. That's not gonna happen, either.

Ben E Lou · 08-26-2009, 04:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wade moore

Sorry - thought you were using the same method you use in the other leagues where you have code that does it.

I don't have code that does this in any league.

wade moore · 08-26-2009, 05:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ben E Lou

I don't have code that does this in any league.

Well, you have it for illegal signings I guess.

At any rate - I was confused, my mistake. Definitely not expecting you to add a bunch of steps to what you're doing now.

QuikSand · 08-26-2009, 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wade moore

Well, you have it for illegal signings I guess.

Maybe he has it elsewhere for illegal renegotiations and that's the confusion here.

Ben E Lou · 08-26-2009, 08:33 AM

Correct, of course.

wade moore · 08-26-2009, 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by QuikSand

Maybe he has it elsewhere for illegal renegotiations and that's the confusion here.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ben E Lou

Correct, of course.

Ah, yes. Carry-on then, nothing to see here.

08-25-2009, 07:41 AM	#2
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08-25-2009, 08:33 AM	#4
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08-25-2009, 08:37 AM	#5
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08-25-2009, 02:14 PM	#8
TheMeat n00b Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Alberta	Ya, that's a mighty fine roster they're sportin, everyone disregard the Lion's and Bear's stats for the next couple years, they'll be inflated I'd been under the impression that the unclaimed teams were on CPU control but they don't seem to bid on FA's. Are they set to user-controlled so that they don't do anything but fill their rosters at the beginning of the year? I guess it'sd make more sense that way. And it's good to hear your not expecting much QS, then I won't feel bad when my team FINALLY breaks out this year and wins their first division title! As far as TC went for me, the MLB rookie I payed 24mil for started unmasking his RunDef as we knew he would and is on his way towards 90 ovr. Finally a star LB, that completes my defense. __________________ Owner/GM/Head Coach and Towel Boy for the St. Louis Rams.of the FOWL Owner of the Green Bay Packers of the PFL. First Response Coordinator of Public Relations Disasters for the Balzac Ticklers of the FOOLX. (retired) Owner/GM of the soon to be awesome Fort Worth Fury of the IHOF

08-25-2009, 07:35 PM	#12
Ben E Lou Morgado's Favorite Forum Fascist Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Greensboro, NC	Wade, are you insane? PROCESS NOW: All I have to do is import, look at the offers and check for numbers < 3 in the year column.If someone has offered too short a deal, remove that export, and since I haven't saved anything, just reload and re-import. Time elapsed: 30-45 seconds YOUR PROCESS The process you're suggesting would require an import, sim stage, DBUpdater run, check of the signings via code. And then I'd have to revert everything back to the way it was. Re-download file, remove transactions from the database, etc. etc. etc. Time elapsed: 15-20 minutes. No. __________________ The media don't understand the kinds of problems and pressures 54 million come wit'!

08-25-2009, 01:18 PM	#6
QuikSand lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Annapolis, Md	May be time to blow up the Ravens and rebuild the whole thing here. No way we're a bye week team this season.

08-25-2009, 01:31 PM	#7
QuikSand lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Annapolis, Md	Everything lookin' good in Green Bay, though. Seriously, is there a switch that needs to get flipped over there?

08-26-2009, 08:33 AM	#19
Ben E Lou Morgado's Favorite Forum Fascist Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Greensboro, NC	Correct, of course. __________________ The media don't understand the kinds of problems and pressures 54 million come wit'!

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