FBCB Legends Dynasty

Balldog · 11-01-2010, 10:20 PM

I've been planning on doing a Legends Dynasty with FBCB 2010. The idea is to recreate many of the college basketball icons. I'm debating how far to go back in time but I'm thinking of starting with the ~1979 season and going from there. Most of the guys before that time don't have all the stats available to accurately import into FBCB.

The reason I am posting this here is, I would like some user input on whom I should be adding to the Dynasty as the years go by. The guys will import in the season they started in real life.

Here are the players I have so far, with your input I'll add many more.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Larry Bird  PF  Indiana State  1976  
  Darrell Griffith  SG  Louisville  1976  
  Magic Johnson  SF  Michigan State  1977  
  Mark Aguirre  
 DePaul  1978  
  Ralph Sampson  C  Virginia  1979  
  Isiah Thomas  PG  Indiana  1979  
  James Worthy  
 North Carolina  1979  
  Sam Perkins  
 North Carolina  1980  
  Michael Jordan  SG  North Carolina  1981  
  Patrick Ewing  C  Georgetown  1981  
  Chris Mullin  
 St. John's  1981  
  Hakeem   Olajuwon  Houston  1981  
  Keith Lee  
 Memphis  1981  
  Wayman Tisdale  PF  Oklahoma  1982  
  Johnny Dawkins  
 Duke  1982  
  Scott Skiles  PG  Michigan State  1982  
  Ron Harper  SF  Miami (OH)  1982  
  David Robinson  C  Navy  1983  
  Steve Alford  
 Indiana  1983  
  Walt Hazzard  
 UCLA  1984  
  Hersey Hawkins  SG  Bradley  1984  
  Danny Manning  PF  Kansas  1985  
  Danny Ferry  
 Duke  1985  
  Sean Elliot  
 Arizona  1985  
  Dennis Scott  SF  Georgia Tech  1987  
  Bo Kimble  SG  Loyola Marymount  1987  
  Christian Laettner  PF  Duke  1988  
  Bobby Hurley  
 Duke  1989  
  Larry Johnson  
 UNLV  1989  
  Shaquille O'Neal  
 LSU  1989  
  Kenny Anderson  PG  Georgia Tech  1989  
  Grant Hill  SF  Duke  1990  
  Jamal Mashburn  
 Kentucky  1990  
  Damon Stoudamire  PG  Arizona  1991  
  Glenn Robinson  
 Purdue  1992  
  Gary Trent  PF  Ohio  1992  
  Tim Duncan  C  Wake Forest  1993  
  Marcus Camby  
 Massachusetts  1993  
  Ray Allen  SG  Connecticut  1993  
  Keith Van Horn  PF  Utah  1993  
  Allen Iverson  PG  Georgetown  1994  
  Antawn Jamison  
 North Carolina  1995  
  Andre Miller  PG  Utah  1995  
  Mike Bibby  
 Arizona  1996  
  Kenyon Martin  
 Cincinnati  1996  
  Mateen Cleaves  
 Michigan State  1996  
  Richard Hamilton  
 Connecticut  1996  
  Shane Battier  
 Duke  1997  
  Juan Dixon  
 Maryland  1998  
  Jason Williams  
 Duke  1999  
  Jameer Nelson  
 St. Joseph's  2000  
  TJ Ford  
 Texas  2001  
  J.J. Reddick  SG  Duke  2002  
  Andrew Bogut  
 Utah  2003  
  Adam Morrison  SF  Gonzaga  2003  
  Tyler Hansbrough  C  North Carolina  2005  
  Kevin Durant  SF  Texas  2006  
  Blake Griffin  PF  Oklahoma  2007

DeToxRox · 11-01-2010, 10:36 PM

Fab Five.

Radii · 11-02-2010, 12:47 AM

The biggest omissions that come to mind instantly as an ACC homer:

Len Bias(Maryland), Mark Price(Georgia Tech), Brad Daugherty(UNC)

In general, Guys not on your list that come to mind, many not nearly the legends you mention but all americans/national champions/high draft picks depending on how deep you're trying to go:

North Carolina:

Brad Daugherty
Kenny Smith
JR Reid
Eric Montross
Jerry Stackhouse
Rasheed Wallace
Vince Carter
Raymond Felton
Sean May
Ty Lawson

Duke:

Elton Brand
Carlos Boozer
Luol Deng

Georgia Tech:

Mark Price
Stephon Marbury

NC State:

Chris Corchiani
Rodney Monroe
Charles Shackelford
Spud Webb?

Wake Forest:

Randolph Childress
Muggsy Bogues?
Chris Paul

Radii · 11-02-2010, 12:54 AM

Also I see you have Bo Kimble but no Hank Gathers. Need 'em both.

k0ruptr · 11-02-2010, 01:06 AM

love the idea, and would also love to get a hand on the file once imported

jbergey22 · 11-02-2010, 01:30 AM

Some Big Ten guys for you to think about.

Jim Jackson, Ohio St
Willie Burton, Minnesota
BJ Armstrong, Iowa
Calbert Chaeney, Indiana
Steve Smith, Michigan State
Michael Finley, Wisconsin
Devin Harris, Wisconsin
Chris Webber, Michigan
Jalen Rose, Michigan
Juwon Howard, Michigan
Shawn Respert, Michigan State
Voshon Lenard, Minnesota
Acie Earl, Iowa
Kendall Gill, Illinois
Nick Anderson, Illinois
Damon Bailey, Indiana
Evan Turner, Ohio State
Deron Williams, Illinois
Kevin McHale, Minnesota
Glenn Rice, Michigan
Terry Mills, Michigan
Cuonzo Martin, Purdue
Micheal Redd, Ohio St

Thomkal · 11-02-2010, 05:00 AM

Hey if you are looking for smaller school legends, I'd like to see Rik Smits when he was at Marist. He certainly was a legend there.

Ragone · 11-02-2010, 05:06 AM

Louisville guys include
Pervis Ellison
Dejuan Wheat
Fransisco Garcia
Terrance Williams

Balldog · 11-02-2010, 05:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Radii

Also I see you have Bo Kimble but no Hank Gathers. Need 'em both.

For sure!

Balldog · 11-02-2010, 05:18 AM

DetoxRox - Fab 5 sounds good!
Radii - Great list for ACC, thanks!
jbergey22 - Great, not sure how I missed all those guys in the Big Ten! thanks!
thomkal - Absolutely! Thanks!
Ragone - Thank you!

k0ruptr - Not sure what you are looking for in terms of the file, a file after every year? I can do that if people want it. There is an issue with FBCB importing players, they import a lot better than the FBCB generated players. I am running several tests to see how much great, my plan is to take the imported players down to get them inline.

For example, If I take a complete imported league that's out there and compare it to a FBCB generated league the imported league INS rating is ~15% higher than FBCB generated. Its going to be a lot of work but it should be worth it! I'm really looking forward to when I get to 2010 and start a career with some real life history blended in.

Chief Rum · 11-02-2010, 05:50 AM

UCLA (and I am sure Bug can add more)

Kiki Vandeweghe
David Greenwood
Reggie Miller
Pooh Richardson
Don MacLean
Tracy Murray
Shon Tarver
Ed O'Bannon
Charles O'Bannon
Tyus Edney
Baron Davis
Earl Watson
Toby Bailey
JR Henderson
Jason Kapono
Jordan Farmar
Arron Afflalo
Luc Richard Mbah A Moute
Darren Collison
Russell Westbrook
Kevin Love

There are a ton others (especially guys who disappeared after college but who were terrific college players), and especially from those early years, but that's a start at least...

Izulde · 11-02-2010, 09:56 AM

UNLV Runnin' Rebels
You already have Larry Johnson, but you forgot the other two of the Big Three.

Stacey Augmon
Greg Anthony
Sidney Green
Armon Gilliam
Joel Anthony
Marcus Banks
Isiah Rider
Shawn Marion

Pre-1979 UNLV Guys, all in the mid-late 70s)
Reggie Theus
Glen Gondrezick
Ricky Sobers

There's a few other guys who could be included, but I just wanted to hit the big names, as I didn't know how large you want the file to be.

hoopsguy · 11-02-2010, 10:06 AM

I'm not sure some people understand what "Legends" mean with their list. As an Illini homer, I would throw Dee Brown up there as a bigger name than many that have been listed so far, at least in terms of college basketball. But I think it would be a stretch to put him in the same class as many of the original names listed by Balldog.

korme · 11-02-2010, 11:46 AM

The 4 biggest canidates for UC:

Nick Van Exel
Danny Fortson
Kenyon Martin
Steve Logan

Balldog · 11-02-2010, 12:01 PM

My plan is to do as many as feasible, I don't have a number in mind. As long as the guy wasn't a scrub or didn't start I don't mind adding them. The majority of the work on my part will be spread out, I need to go through and find everyone's first year. I can start with 1976, Bird and Griffith will be the initial players created. My initial list was a compilation of Top College Players of All-Time, I originally had all the way back to the Bill Walton, Oscar Robertson, etc. I thought that was going to be a lot of fun but then I found most of their stats other than PPG wasn't available.

Balldog · 11-02-2010, 12:03 PM

I found a nice list for the Big East

ALL-TIME TOP 50 | NBE Basketball Report

Quote:

50) Gerry McNamara
49) Jeff Green
48) Mark Bryant
47) Caron Butler
46) Clyde Vaughan
45) John Duren
44) Brandin Knight
43) Randy Foye
42) Hakim Warrick
41) Craig Smith
40) Mike Sweetney
39) John Pinone
38) Bill Curley
37) Khalid El-Amin
36) Pat Garrity
35) Chris Smith
34) Ben Gordon
33) Lawrence Moten
32) Jerome Lane
31) Ryan Gomes
30) Eric Murdock
29) Dana Barros
28) John Bagley
27) Dan Callandrillo
26) Brian Shorter
25) John Wallace
24) Mark Jackson
23) Malik Sealy
22) Donyell Marshall
21) Billy Owens
20) Troy Bell
19) Terry Dehere
18) Emeka Okafor
17) Reggie Williams
16) Charles Smith
15) Troy Murphy
14) Alonzo Mourning
13) Ed Pinckney
12) Carmelo Anthony
11) Sherman Douglas
10) Eric ‘Sleepy’ Floyd
9) Kerry Kittles
8: Ray Allen
7) Richard Hamilton
6) Dwayne Washington
5) Walter Berry
4) Derrick Coleman
3) Allen Iverson
2) Chris Mullin
1) Patrick Ewing
Note: The only criteria that was used to compile the list was how well a player performed in college, specifically in the conference, physically as well as the degree of impact he made for his program or the league. NOT taken into consideration was the general popularity of the player, how high he was drafted into the NBA, or even his pro career. Also, no current players are eligible.

Balldog · 11-02-2010, 08:09 PM

The list is so long I can't get it to show up

11-02-2010, 01:06 AM	#5
k0ruptr Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Las Vegas	love the idea, and would also love to get a hand on the file once imported __________________ Xbox Live Gamertag: k0ruptr My Favorite Teams : Chicago White Sox - Carolina Panthers - Orlando Magic - Phoenix Suns - Anaheim Ducks - Hawaii Warriors - Oregon Ducks

11-02-2010, 05:50 AM	#11
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	UCLA (and I am sure Bug can add more) Kiki Vandeweghe David Greenwood Reggie Miller Pooh Richardson Don MacLean Tracy Murray Shon Tarver Ed O'Bannon Charles O'Bannon Tyus Edney Baron Davis Earl Watson Toby Bailey JR Henderson Jason Kapono Jordan Farmar Arron Afflalo Luc Richard Mbah A Moute Darren Collison Russell Westbrook Kevin Love There are a ton others (especially guys who disappeared after college but who were terrific college players), and especially from those early years, but that's a start at least... __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

11-02-2010, 09:56 AM	#12
Izulde Head Coach Join Date: Sep 2004	UNLV Runnin' Rebels You already have Larry Johnson, but you forgot the other two of the Big Three. Stacey Augmon Greg Anthony Sidney Green Armon Gilliam Joel Anthony Marcus Banks Isiah Rider Shawn Marion Pre-1979 UNLV Guys, all in the mid-late 70s) Reggie Theus Glen Gondrezick Ricky Sobers There's a few other guys who could be included, but I just wanted to hit the big names, as I didn't know how large you want the file to be. __________________ 2006 Golden Scribe Nominee 2006 Golden Scribe Winner Best Non-Sport Dynasty: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty) Rookie Writer of the Year Dynasty of the Year: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty)

11-02-2010, 08:09 PM	#17
Balldog Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Macomb, MI	The list is so long I can't get it to show up Last edited by Balldog : 11-02-2010 at 08:12 PM.

11-01-2010, 10:36 PM	#2
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	Fab Five.

11-02-2010, 12:47 AM	#3
Radii Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	The biggest omissions that come to mind instantly as an ACC homer: Len Bias(Maryland), Mark Price(Georgia Tech), Brad Daugherty(UNC) In general, Guys not on your list that come to mind, many not nearly the legends you mention but all americans/national champions/high draft picks depending on how deep you're trying to go: North Carolina: Brad Daugherty Kenny Smith JR Reid Eric Montross Jerry Stackhouse Rasheed Wallace Vince Carter Raymond Felton Sean May Ty Lawson Duke: Elton Brand Carlos Boozer Luol Deng Georgia Tech: Mark Price Stephon Marbury NC State: Chris Corchiani Rodney Monroe Charles Shackelford Spud Webb? Wake Forest: Randolph Childress Muggsy Bogues? Chris Paul

11-02-2010, 12:54 AM	#4
Radii Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Also I see you have Bo Kimble but no Hank Gathers. Need 'em both.

11-02-2010, 01:30 AM	#6
jbergey22 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Minnesota	Some Big Ten guys for you to think about. Jim Jackson, Ohio St Willie Burton, Minnesota BJ Armstrong, Iowa Calbert Chaeney, Indiana Steve Smith, Michigan State Michael Finley, Wisconsin Devin Harris, Wisconsin Chris Webber, Michigan Jalen Rose, Michigan Juwon Howard, Michigan Shawn Respert, Michigan State Voshon Lenard, Minnesota Acie Earl, Iowa Kendall Gill, Illinois Nick Anderson, Illinois Damon Bailey, Indiana Evan Turner, Ohio State Deron Williams, Illinois Kevin McHale, Minnesota Glenn Rice, Michigan Terry Mills, Michigan Cuonzo Martin, Purdue Micheal Redd, Ohio St

11-02-2010, 05:00 AM	#7
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	Hey if you are looking for smaller school legends, I'd like to see Rik Smits when he was at Marist. He certainly was a legend there.

11-02-2010, 05:06 AM	#8
Ragone Pro Rookie Join Date: May 2002 Location: Kansas City, Mo	Louisville guys include Pervis Ellison Dejuan Wheat Fransisco Garcia Terrance Williams

11-02-2010, 05:18 AM	#10
Balldog Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Macomb, MI	DetoxRox - Fab 5 sounds good! Radii - Great list for ACC, thanks! jbergey22 - Great, not sure how I missed all those guys in the Big Ten! thanks! thomkal - Absolutely! Thanks! Ragone - Thank you! k0ruptr - Not sure what you are looking for in terms of the file, a file after every year? I can do that if people want it. There is an issue with FBCB importing players, they import a lot better than the FBCB generated players. I am running several tests to see how much great, my plan is to take the imported players down to get them inline. For example, If I take a complete imported league that's out there and compare it to a FBCB generated league the imported league INS rating is ~15% higher than FBCB generated. Its going to be a lot of work but it should be worth it! I'm really looking forward to when I get to 2010 and start a career with some real life history blended in.

11-02-2010, 10:06 AM	#13
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	I'm not sure some people understand what "Legends" mean with their list. As an Illini homer, I would throw Dee Brown up there as a bigger name than many that have been listed so far, at least in terms of college basketball. But I think it would be a stretch to put him in the same class as many of the original names listed by Balldog.

11-02-2010, 11:46 AM	#14
korme Go Reds Join Date: May 2001 Location: Bloodbuzz Ohio	The 4 biggest canidates for UC: Nick Van Exel Danny Fortson Kenyon Martin Steve Logan

11-02-2010, 12:01 PM	#15
Balldog Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Macomb, MI	My plan is to do as many as feasible, I don't have a number in mind. As long as the guy wasn't a scrub or didn't start I don't mind adding them. The majority of the work on my part will be spread out, I need to go through and find everyone's first year. I can start with 1976, Bird and Griffith will be the initial players created. My initial list was a compilation of Top College Players of All-Time, I originally had all the way back to the Bill Walton, Oscar Robertson, etc. I thought that was going to be a lot of fun but then I found most of their stats other than PPG wasn't available.

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