NFL Week 8 Discussion Thread: Randy Moss Claimed on Waivers by the Titans

Sun Tzu · 10-27-2010, 11:44 AM

Tony Romo, Brett Favre and Alex Smith were all injured in Week 7. Taking their place in Week 8 will be Jon Kitna, Tarvaris Jackson and Heisman winner Troy Smith.

molson · 10-27-2010, 11:58 AM

At a Pats fan, I'm certainly hoping Favre can tough it out and get on the field for one more week.

Mustang · 10-27-2010, 12:51 PM

I haven't seen any comets, supernovas or other astrological signs nor has a souless child been born so, Favre will play. He will play 1 or 2 series, be ineffective and then cry afterwards in a press conference and sit out next week. No way in hell does he want his streak to have started with a GB game and end with a GB game.

Yes, I'm that much of a pessimist about Favre.

albionmoonlight · 10-27-2010, 01:34 PM

The Saints, after getting embarrassed by the Browns at home, host the Steelers on Sunday night.

The Saints have the ability to beat the Steelers. But, ability is only part of the equation. Who knows what version of the Saints will show up? And the Steelers are playing the best football in the league right now, IMHO.

jbergey22 · 10-27-2010, 01:50 PM

Ronnie Dobbs2 · 10-27-2010, 01:53 PM

I'm a Pats fan and I would rather face an immobile Favre whose pride will keep him throwing prayers than Jackson, for sure.

jbergey22 · 10-27-2010, 01:55 PM

Ronnie Dobbs2 · 10-27-2010, 01:57 PM

Haha, I've seen Favre play enough this season.

jbergey22 · 10-27-2010, 02:00 PM

Passacaglia · 10-27-2010, 02:03 PM

Doesn't Favre still have one good game left since his mom is alive?

(yeah, that's going to look really bad if his mom did die, especially recently)

molson · 10-27-2010, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by jbergey22

This shit seriously makes me laugh. Have you ever seen Tavaris Jackson play? He's had 1 maybe 2 good games in the 30+ hes played. The Vikings have no chance in a shootout with the Pats with Jackson. Atleast with Favre there is a chance he gets hot and can carry the team.

You certainly hope Favre doesnt play and saying anything else just makes it seem your hatred for Favre has disrupted your train of thought or you really dont mean it and want to draw attention to the comment.

In either the case the Vikings chances arent great but certainly Favre is their best option especially against a team with very little pass rush.

The Pats aren't exactly a "shootout" team anymore. And if the Vikings think their best hope is Favre carrying them - that's the strategy I'd want my team to face.

The Vikings could easily outplay the Pats but "Favre" the game away. That's why opponents of the Vikings want to see him in there.

With Jackson, (or Joe Webb), you can at least reign the guy in an try to win with a conservative offense and a solid defense.

jbergey22 · 10-27-2010, 02:25 PM

Lathum · 10-27-2010, 02:27 PM

As long as the Vikings have Bobo Childress calling plays it doesn't matter who they have playing QB.

Rizon · 10-27-2010, 02:31 PM

I know I'd rather my team face Bretterception Favre than whatever that other guy's name is.

Lathum · 10-27-2010, 02:32 PM

all I know is there are 31 starting quarterbacks that are glad the Giants are on a bye this week.

Greyroofoo · 10-27-2010, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

all I know is there are 31 starting quarterbacks that are glad the Giants are on a bye this week.

Do you think the Giants would be willing to come back to Indianapolis? There are some fans that still want a souvenir Giants helmet.

jbergey22 · 10-27-2010, 02:40 PM

Lathum · 10-27-2010, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Greyroofoo

Do you think the Giants would be willing to come back to Indianapolis? There are some fans that still want a souvenir Giants helmet.

I think they are a very different team then they were in week 2 and would give the Colts a game.

My comment was about how the Giants have shelved 5 QBs in the 7 games they have played. I give you a C- for the effort made to wedge that comment in there.

SnowMan · 10-27-2010, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

all I know is there are 31 starting quarterbacks that are glad the Giants are on a bye this week.

The Seahawks get em next week, so all those calling for Whitehurst may get their wish, for better or worse.

Lathum · 10-27-2010, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by SnowMan

The Seahawks get em next week, so all those calling for Whitehurst may get their wish, for better or worse.

I know, I'll be at the game!!!!

BillJasper · 10-27-2010, 02:54 PM

I start playing Jackson.

The Vikings slow start combined with Favre's poor play have eliminated any hope this team had at playing in a Super Bowl. Which was the whole reason he came back.

You have to begin to define what your future is at the QB position.

Ksyrup · 10-27-2010, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

all I know is there are 31 starting quarterbacks that are glad the Giants are on a bye this week.

26, subtracting the 5 other teams on bye this week as well.

Lathum · 10-27-2010, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup

26, subtracting the 5 other teams on bye this week as well.

I was to lazy to do the math.

Ksyrup · 10-27-2010, 03:15 PM

Actually, the list is probably down to about 5 or 6 teams, if you factor in the rest of the Giants schedule.

Neuqua · 10-27-2010, 03:15 PM

Reading what jbergey says to defend Favre in one post and then reading what he says to hate on Cutler in another is quite amusing.

jbergey22 · 10-27-2010, 03:30 PM

Travis · 10-27-2010, 03:41 PM

It's well past time to throw last year's stats out the window given that he already has more picks this year than last season (and is almost on pace to match his career worst in that category). Given that his next lowest season total was 13 and he has gone as high as 29 (threw 22 just a season before his magical 7 interception season) and that his WR aren't bailing him out on poorly thrown balls like they did last year (I still can't believe some of the catches Rice pulled off last year), well, it's not like 7 is the norm for this guy.

Is Jackson a better option? Probably if the injury reports on Favre are accurate. Hell, even if he's fairly healthy it's starting to look more and more like he can't be too much worse than what Favre is bringing to the season this year.

Ronnie Dobbs2 · 10-27-2010, 03:44 PM

Favre's MVPs and rings were at least 13 years ago.

How many players have seen their whole career go by in that time span?

Pumpy Tudors · 10-27-2010, 03:46 PM

I just heard from an insider that Missouri basketball coach Mike Anderson is in the running to start at QB for the Cowboys, Vikings, and 49ers this week. He's also jumped Tim Tebow and Champ Bailey on Denver's depth charts.

I give myself a D+ for throwing this unnecessary post into this thread.

jbergey22 · 10-27-2010, 03:49 PM

molson · 10-27-2010, 03:52 PM

Nobody is saying anything about "how wonderful life would be for the Vikings" under other options. But Favre, espeically a gimpy Favre, doesn't exactly set the bar very high for what you need to replace him to have a better cahnce to win. Why is Jackson still on the team if he's worthless? There's plenty of unemployed QBs out there.

Ronnie Dobbs2 · 10-27-2010, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by jbergey22

How many Vikings fans to you hear calling for Jackson? The number is very small as we already know Jackson is just as worthless as Favre is playing this year. There is atleast a glimmer of hope with Favre while we know we are doomed if Jackson sees the field.

Time to bench the 20 million dollar man - Vikings Open Discussion

I'd say 50-50 is a conservative estimate at this board.

jbergey22 · 10-27-2010, 03:55 PM

jbergey22 · 10-27-2010, 04:00 PM

Mustang · 10-27-2010, 04:08 PM

This is starting to turn into a mini Ditka-esque SNL skit.

How many points would the Pats be favored by if Favre had no legs...

Sun Tzu · 10-27-2010, 04:12 PM

It wouldn't be an official Brett Favre dick sucking contest if jbergey22 wasn't involved.

jbergey22 · 10-27-2010, 04:14 PM

Sun Tzu · 10-27-2010, 04:22 PM

Here's my argument...

I used purple so you could see it easier.

jbergey22 · 10-27-2010, 04:26 PM

molson · 10-27-2010, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by jbergey22

That Bradford guy above him sure isnt doing very good. Rams should think about sitting him on the bench.

The Rams aren't playing for a super bowl this year. It makes perfect sense to play Bradford.

jbergey22 · 10-27-2010, 04:29 PM

jbergey22 · 10-27-2010, 04:31 PM

Scoobz0202 · 10-27-2010, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Sun Tzu

Here's my argument...

I used purple so you could see it easier.

#2 and #12 got swapped on that list for some reason..

Right?

Sun Tzu · 10-27-2010, 04:36 PM

Sam Bradford...a rookie who is playing on a team with practically zero offensive talent (minus SJ of course), a team that only won one game last year, is having a better year than Brett Favre. I don't quite see how you're helping your argument along here...

Matthean · 10-27-2010, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by jbergey22

That Bradford guy above him sure isnt doing very good. Rams should think about sitting him on the bench.

Bradford has potential. With Favre, you know what you are getting at this point.

jbergey22 · 10-27-2010, 04:39 PM

Travis · 10-27-2010, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by jbergey22

Assuming the answer to that question is yes. I would certainly think living with the guy that has won a Super Bowl or atleast a playoff game would be the way to go. Of course thats probably just me sucking Favres cock.

I would think what it suggests is that a team in rebuilding mode (Rams) can live with a QB struggling to adjust to life in the NFL (especially when the pieces around him aren't exactly top of the line past Steven Jackson) while a team like Minnesota needs more production out of that spot and should exhaust all available resources at their disposal rather than relying on an option that isn't proving up to the task at this point whether it's age or health (or both) related.

If Favre were 100% healthy and just going through a slump, likely a different story to a degree, but given his injuries and struggles so far, why not give Jackson a shot? He may not have lit it up previously, but it's pretty hard to imagine him being worse than what Favre is giving the Vikings right now. Worst case is he goes in and performs at a similar level to what you're getting right now, but at least it gives Favre a chance to get healthier. Best case he comes in, something has "clicked" for him since he saw significant on field action last, and he goes on to lead the team to some success.

I'm not really seeing where the down side is for the Vikings right now other than ending Favre's games started streak.

Scoobz0202 · 10-27-2010, 04:41 PM

I'm not going to pile it on you, Jbergey, because I can understand how hearing shit talked about your favorite teams quarterback can get old. But what makes you think that just because you are the Vikings fan in this argument only YOU know the Vikings?

molson · 10-27-2010, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Travis

I'm not really seeing where the down side is for the Vikings right now other than ending Favre's games started streak.

And I suspect though, that that might be the #1 and only consideration in this decision process.

Mustang · 10-27-2010, 04:45 PM

I haven't seen a person be charmed this much by an former enemy since Thulsa Doom almost did it to Conan.

Oh.. and it's Favre's Cock. Didn't want that post to show up in the 'posts that make me cringe' thread.

10-27-2010, 12:51 PM	#3
Mustang Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Wisconsin	I haven't seen any comets, supernovas or other astrological signs nor has a souless child been born so, Favre will play. He will play 1 or 2 series, be ineffective and then cry afterwards in a press conference and sit out next week. No way in hell does he want his streak to have started with a GB game and end with a GB game. Yes, I'm that much of a pessimist about Favre. __________________ You, you will regret what you have done this day. I will make you regret ever being born. Your going to wish you never left your mothers womb, where it was warm and safe... and wet. i am going to show you pain you never knew existed, you are going to see a whole new spectrum of pain, like a Rainboooow. But! This rainbow is not just like any other rainbow, its...

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Ronnie Dobbs2 Pro Rookie Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Bahston Mass	I'm a Pats fan and I would rather face an immobile Favre whose pride will keep him throwing prayers than Jackson, for sure. __________________ There's no I in Teamocil, at least not where you'd think Last edited by Ronnie Dobbs2 : 10-27-2010 at 01:53 PM.

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Ronnie Dobbs2 Pro Rookie Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Bahston Mass	Haha, I've seen Favre play enough this season. __________________ There's no I in Teamocil, at least not where you'd think

10-27-2010, 11:58 AM	#2
molson General Manager Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Mountains	At a Pats fan, I'm certainly hoping Favre can tough it out and get on the field for one more week.

10-27-2010, 01:34 PM	#4
albionmoonlight Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: North Carolina	The Saints, after getting embarrassed by the Browns at home, host the Steelers on Sunday night. The Saints have the ability to beat the Steelers. But, ability is only part of the equation. Who knows what version of the Saints will show up? And the Steelers are playing the best football in the league right now, IMHO.

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Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	Doesn't Favre still have one good game left since his mom is alive? (yeah, that's going to look really bad if his mom did die, especially recently)

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Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	As long as the Vikings have Bobo Childress calling plays it doesn't matter who they have playing QB.

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Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	all I know is there are 31 starting quarterbacks that are glad the Giants are on a bye this week.

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BillJasper Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Northern Kentucky	I start playing Jackson. The Vikings slow start combined with Favre's poor play have eliminated any hope this team had at playing in a Super Bowl. Which was the whole reason he came back. You have to begin to define what your future is at the QB position. __________________ The Confederacy lost, it is time to dismantle it.

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10-27-2010, 03:41 PM	#27
Travis Pro Rookie Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Canada eh	It's well past time to throw last year's stats out the window given that he already has more picks this year than last season (and is almost on pace to match his career worst in that category). Given that his next lowest season total was 13 and he has gone as high as 29 (threw 22 just a season before his magical 7 interception season) and that his WR aren't bailing him out on poorly thrown balls like they did last year (I still can't believe some of the catches Rice pulled off last year), well, it's not like 7 is the norm for this guy. Is Jackson a better option? Probably if the injury reports on Favre are accurate. Hell, even if he's fairly healthy it's starting to look more and more like he can't be too much worse than what Favre is bringing to the season this year. __________________ "I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it." - Rogers Hornsby

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Ronnie Dobbs2 Pro Rookie Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Bahston Mass	Favre's MVPs and rings were at least 13 years ago. How many players have seen their whole career go by in that time span? __________________ There's no I in Teamocil, at least not where you'd think

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Pumpy Tudors Bounty Hunter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Pittsburgh, PA	I just heard from an insider that Missouri basketball coach Mike Anderson is in the running to start at QB for the Cowboys, Vikings, and 49ers this week. He's also jumped Tim Tebow and Champ Bailey on Denver's depth charts. I give myself a D+ for throwing this unnecessary post into this thread. __________________ No, I am not Batman, and I will not repair your food processor.

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molson General Manager Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Mountains	Nobody is saying anything about "how wonderful life would be for the Vikings" under other options. But Favre, espeically a gimpy Favre, doesn't exactly set the bar very high for what you need to replace him to have a better cahnce to win. Why is Jackson still on the team if he's worthless? There's plenty of unemployed QBs out there. Last edited by molson : 10-27-2010 at 03:53 PM.

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Mustang Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Wisconsin	This is starting to turn into a mini Ditka-esque SNL skit. How many points would the Pats be favored by if Favre had no legs... __________________ You, you will regret what you have done this day. I will make you regret ever being born. Your going to wish you never left your mothers womb, where it was warm and safe... and wet. i am going to show you pain you never knew existed, you are going to see a whole new spectrum of pain, like a Rainboooow. But! This rainbow is not just like any other rainbow, its...

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Sun Tzu Pro Starter Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: In the thick of it.	Sam Bradford...a rookie who is playing on a team with practically zero offensive talent (minus SJ of course), a team that only won one game last year, is having a better year than Brett Favre. I don't quite see how you're helping your argument along here... __________________ I'm still here. Don't touch my fucking bacon. Last edited by Sun Tzu : 10-27-2010 at 04:37 PM.

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Scoobz0202 Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Dayton, Ohio	I'm not going to pile it on you, Jbergey, because I can understand how hearing shit talked about your favorite teams quarterback can get old. But what makes you think that just because you are the Vikings fan in this argument only YOU know the Vikings?

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Mustang Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Wisconsin	I haven't seen a person be charmed this much by an former enemy since Thulsa Doom almost did it to Conan. Oh.. and it's Favre's Cock. Didn't want that post to show up in the 'posts that make me cringe' thread. __________________ You, you will regret what you have done this day. I will make you regret ever being born. Your going to wish you never left your mothers womb, where it was warm and safe... and wet. i am going to show you pain you never knew existed, you are going to see a whole new spectrum of pain, like a Rainboooow. But! This rainbow is not just like any other rainbow, its...

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