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Old 10-30-2010, 09:16 PM   #201
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Yeah the Big10 is just terrible.

I agree the teams are bad. But your stupid comments about the Big10 are tired and old. Please refrain from showing your ignorance. Thank you.
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Old 10-30-2010, 09:17 PM   #202
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Wow Air Force down 28-10 in the 4th coming back scoring 2 50+ yard TDs in about 2 1/2 minutes of play time on Utah cutting it to 28-23 with 10 minutes left.

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Old 10-30-2010, 09:18 PM   #203
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Yeah the Big10 is just terrible.

I agree the teams are bad. But your stupid comments about the Big10 are tired and old. Please refrain from showing your ignorance. Thank you.

But how else can he truly tells you how he feels about the Big 10 and bemoan it every time he posts?
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Old 10-30-2010, 09:26 PM   #204
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USC coming out strong. Im torn on who I want to win. A USC win is always bad, but Oregon has some obnoxious fans, including some family members. One who told me I should have gone to the USC-Oregon game (Instead of the UCLA-Arizona game) and rooted for Oregon because it's good for the PAC-10.

Oregon is giving up on defense and USC's defense is finally starting to play like it should be.
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Old 10-30-2010, 09:31 PM   #206
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Seriously, I feel bad for Stanford fans.

Harbaugh is almost 100% not going back there next year, though I actually hope he sticks around if he isn't coming to Michigan but it seems like the Niners are going to be a concern themselves.
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Old 10-30-2010, 09:34 PM   #207
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The Big 10 is horrible this year. Who's the best team?

MSU? They needed a trick play in OT to beat a shit ND team.

OSU? They have the best OOC win and it's over Miami who has since been blown off the field by FSU and beaten by awful UVA. They chunked it against a pretty average Wisconsin team.

Iowa? Lost at a good Arizona team. Donked off a win at home against Wisconsin.

Wisconsin? Lost to MSU. That's a joke. Biggest OOC win is 1 point at home against ASU who will be 4-4 with a losing record in the Pac-10 after tonight.

The entire conference has done jack so far this year. I'd lay at least 14 with Oregon, Arizona, USC, Boise, TCU, Utah, Auburn, Alabama, LSU, Arkansas, Nebraska, Oklahoma, and Mizzou against any team in the Big 10 this year.

Are you able to shut up at all? You know you don't have to watch.

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Old 10-30-2010, 09:38 PM   #208
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The entire conference has done jack so far this year. I'd lay at least 14 with Oregon, Arizona, USC, Boise, TCU, Utah, Auburn, Alabama, LSU, Arkansas, Nebraska, Oklahoma, and Mizzou against any team in the Big 10 this year.

If you would lay 14 with them teams against Ohio St and Iowa you would get your ass handed to you.
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Old 10-30-2010, 09:41 PM   #209
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I would take Ohio St. +14 against Missouri for sure.
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Old 10-30-2010, 09:43 PM   #210
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I would take Ohio St. +14 against Missouri for sure.

I would gladly take Ohio State +14 at a neutral site against any one of them teams.

Iowa already went to Arizona this year, outplayed them but lost because of special teams. Id certainly take Iowa +14 against atleast half them team comfortably.
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Old 10-30-2010, 09:43 PM   #211
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I would take Ohio St. +14 against Missouri for sure.

And Utah, Arizona, Boise, TCU, Utah, LSU, Arkansas at the very very least.

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Old 10-30-2010, 09:43 PM   #212
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Using your logic:
Nebraska is horrible. They lost to a 500 Texas team. Who is losing to a 2 loss Baylor team.

Alabama is horrible. They got smacked around by a 19th rated South Carolina who lost to Kentucky.

USC is junk. They lost to Washington. Washington? A powerhouse.

Mizzou is bad. Beat up by a team that lost to Texas. And a horrible OOC.

Arizona is bad too. Lost to Oregon State at home. Terrible.

LSU? Choked against Auburn. How can they be good?

Arkansas is a joke. Thye gave up 65 points in a game. 65?

Oklahoma is just plain bad. They lost to Mizzou. Who lost to a terrible Nebraska team.

What a bunch of terrible teams. They cant compete with the likes of Utah or Boise or TCU or Auburn.

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Old 10-30-2010, 09:47 PM   #213
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USC is having a real hard time covering those Oregon receivers.
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Old 10-30-2010, 09:52 PM   #214
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Interesting how many people were surprised by Mizzou losing at Nebraska. Didn't surprise me at all. I've said it all year and even said it last week. I think the Big 12 champ will have two losses. Granted, Mizzou has a pretty weak schedule down the stretch that should inflate their win total a bit, but today's result proves my point that I've been making all along. There's some good teams in this conference, but none of them are elite.

Last week I noted that Mizzou was the only B12 team left with a national championship shot in the B12, but anyone who thought that would actually happen was trading in fool's gold. MU laid the same egg that NU laid a couple of weeks ago.
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Old 10-30-2010, 09:55 PM   #215
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I guess MBBF is not going to show up tonight eh?

Apologies. Running a winery doesn't allow for much time to watch football on the weekends.
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Old 10-30-2010, 09:56 PM   #216
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Air Force/Utah update?
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Old 10-30-2010, 10:03 PM   #217
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Air Force/Utah update?

Utah pulled it out 28 - 23
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Old 10-30-2010, 10:04 PM   #219
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That was a pretty ticky tacky flag on Oregon. Must have said something that the ref heard
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Old 10-30-2010, 10:04 PM   #220
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WTF was that toss play. Horrible play call.
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Old 10-30-2010, 10:07 PM   #221
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Michigan lost again. Just turned it over on doens at their own 28. Down by 10 with 4:44 left in the game.
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Old 10-30-2010, 10:08 PM   #222
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Michigan is 4-16 against the Big10. Makes me wonder how good the Big East really is.

This is RRs record. Sorry for not putting that in there.

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Old 10-30-2010, 10:12 PM   #223
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Michigan is 4-16 against the Big10. Makes me wonder how good the Big East really is.

Rich found at DC that could actually stop the opposing offenses every now and then at WVU.
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Old 10-30-2010, 10:14 PM   #224
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Michigan is 4-16 against the Big10. Makes me wonder how good Rich Rodriguez really is.

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Old 10-30-2010, 10:19 PM   #225
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Honestly, onside kick everytime and we'd have a better chance to win. Denard almost puts up 200/200 again but it doesn't matter if the defense is that bad.
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Old 10-30-2010, 10:22 PM   #226
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Interesting how many people were surprised by Mizzou losing at Nebraska. Didn't surprise me at all. I've said it all year and even said it last week. I think the Big 12 champ will have two losses. Granted, Mizzou has a pretty weak schedule down the stretch that should inflate their win total a bit, but today's result proves my point that I've been making all along. There's some good teams in this conference, but none of them are elite.

Last week I noted that Mizzou was the only B12 team left with a national championship shot in the B12, but anyone who thought that would actually happen was trading in fool's gold. MU laid the same egg that NU laid a couple of weeks ago.

Cmon now you were calling NU overrated so are they or not?
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Old 10-30-2010, 10:29 PM   #227
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Cmon now you were calling NU overrated so are they or not?

When I said that, they were a top 5 team. They're clearly not a top 5 team. I said they were a top 20-25 team and I still feel that way. You could honestly say that about most of the Big 12 front runners at this point. They've all had good wins and have all showed some severe warts at this point. None of them have the consistency needed to be an elite team.
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Old 10-30-2010, 10:33 PM   #228
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Really wish ESPN had gone with something other than two crap teams from the godawful 10 for the 8pm showcase game.

Seriously, give the Big 10 smack a rest. We get that you don't like the conference.
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Old 10-30-2010, 10:34 PM   #229
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I've been indifferent to RR thinking he needed at least three years. Even if we win tonight, I'm about done with it. Having two weeks to prepare for PSU and play like this is inexcusable.

I am right there with you. Very unimpressed with him and his fantastic offense.
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Old 10-30-2010, 10:35 PM   #230
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When I said that, they were a top 5 team. They're clearly not a top 5 team. I said they were a top 20-25 team and I still feel that way. You could honestly say that about most of the Big 12 front runners at this point. They've all had good wins and have all showed some severe warts at this point. None of them have the consistency needed to be an elite team.

HAd Martinez not gone down they win by 35 today...

Top 5, probably not, top 10, I would say so.
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Old 10-30-2010, 10:36 PM   #231
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Id hate to be the Oregon Duck Mascot. Unless Oregon scored, like, 5 points a game. Then I could hang.
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Old 10-30-2010, 10:37 PM   #232
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The entire conference has done jack so far this year. I'd lay at least 14 with Oregon, Arizona, USC, Boise, TCU, Utah, Auburn, Alabama, LSU, Arkansas, Nebraska, Oklahoma, and Mizzou against any team in the Big 10 this year.

You would lose a lot of money. As others have said OSU and Iowa are locks against most of those teams and with +14 I take Wiscy and maybe even NU in most of those games.

You keep referencing OOC wins and schedule. NO ONE from a BCS conference has a solid OOC schedule, that is how the game is played.
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Old 10-30-2010, 10:38 PM   #233
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HAd Martinez not gone down they win by 35 today...

Top 5, probably not, top 10, I would say so.

With the finishing schedules, I think NU and MU both end up in the top 10, but I don't think either is worthy of that placement.
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Old 10-30-2010, 10:39 PM   #234
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Name 10 teams better than NU
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Old 10-30-2010, 10:40 PM   #235
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Was really hoping that USC would knock off Oregon, but that Trojan defense just got smacked around pretty hard.
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Old 10-30-2010, 10:42 PM   #236
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Name 10 teams better than NU

The NU that lost to Texas or the one that beat MU?
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Old 10-30-2010, 10:44 PM   #237
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Old 10-30-2010, 11:04 PM   #238
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The NU that lost to Texas or the one that beat MU?

Everyone in college plays poor games, Bama had no business losing to USC but they did. The fact that you are dodging the question proves you really can'r name 10 better teams.
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Old 10-30-2010, 11:11 PM   #239
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Took me a few minutes to figure out who on the ignore list is drawing the ire of the posters. I'm guessing it's either dawgfan or mbbf at this point.
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Old 10-30-2010, 11:18 PM   #240
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What is funny is every time this discussion comes up with MBBF he dodges the question. His de facto answer is NU isn't top 5, which it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out, but everytime he is asked to list the 10-20 teams ahead of them he dodges the question.
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Old 10-30-2010, 11:22 PM   #241
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I wish Tennessee would play an entire game instead of a half.

And give friggin OKU the ball. The kid's going to transfer if we don't play him.
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Old 10-30-2010, 11:37 PM   #242
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Seriously, I feel bad for Stanford fans.

Harbaugh is almost 100% not going back there next year, though I actually hope he sticks around if he isn't coming to Michigan but it seems like the Niners are going to be a concern themselves.

He'll make a far more interesting college coach compared to a pro coach. One example is he can actually recruit and that's not an option in the pros. Even if I'm not 100% sure how well he would work, he will be good enough to make Michigan football interesting again in a way that hasn't happened for me in a long time.

Part of me does want to see him stay there and see how well he does post Luck.
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Old 10-30-2010, 11:38 PM   #243
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Name 10 teams better than NU

That could be tough. I'd say:

Auburn
Boise State
TCU
Alabama
Oregon
Ohio State
Wisconsin
Iowa
LSU

That's 9 with maybes on Arizona, Oklahoma, and Utah. Also some teams farther down who have had some bad times that are still real good like Virginia Tech, South Carolina, and Arkansas. Tough to say though since I think so many teams in the top 5-20 area are similar. Too many coin flips. Most of these "better" than arguments are games that I think a home team would win.

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Old 10-30-2010, 11:51 PM   #245
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These guys have Nebraska right at #10. This is prior to today however.
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Old 10-30-2010, 11:58 PM   #246
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Drop the three MAC 10 teams.


You're trying way to hard...
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Old 10-31-2010, 12:07 AM   #247
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Old 10-31-2010, 12:24 AM   #248
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so, uhm Hawaii is pretty damn good this year. 31-3 at halftime against Idaho. on our way (hopefully) to our 7th win. 7-2 through 9 games , pretty much not any Hawaii fans really expected this , this season. Great surprise !
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Old 10-31-2010, 12:25 AM   #249
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dola. If we keep it up and win this game, Hawaii is also going bowling this year!
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so, uhm Hawaii is pretty damn good this year. 31-3 at halftime against Idaho. on our way (hopefully) to our 7th win. 7-2 through 9 games , pretty much not any Hawaii fans really expected this , this season. Great surprise !

They are a fun team this year. Have an offense almost as good as the Timmy Chang days and now they actually play defense.
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