LXXVII Spawn III: Game Over (See Post 4507) - Page 86

jeheinz72 · 07-16-2008, 12:51 PM

Also, do folks want me to work on the beds tonight or should I sleep? Let me know I'll put in my order for tonight now.

PurdueBrad · 07-16-2008, 12:53 PM

KWhit, I don't believe that they can pull off a mutiny because it takes an officer to start it, which we don't have. Correct?

KWhit · 07-16-2008, 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeheinz72

Vote bulletsponge

I'm leaning not only on the suspicious behavior surrounding the empath business but if we're under the idea that no starting Spawn had a Survivor Secret role then either there was just 1 starting spawn or bullet was the 2nd.

Remind me about the empath stuff.

KWhit · 07-16-2008, 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

KWhit, I don't believe that they can pull off a mutiny because it takes an officer to start it, which we don't have. Correct?

It's automatic if I duke the vote.

The Jackal · 07-16-2008, 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saldana

we have clap saying he is in an absolute trust group, which doesnt make sense in multiple ways

explain this?

jeheinz72 · 07-16-2008, 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KWhit

Remind me about the empath stuff.

@ post 1775 MV outed himself as empath, at/around the time he was to be trained as doc. Keep in mind MV is confirmed good.

@ 2143 Chubby cryptically votes for MV and just says "more to come...". Chubby is confirmed Spawn, though it's true that we don't know at the time if he was yet (I don't think)

*before* he actually says anymore, bulletsponge votes for MV, in post 2150.

When Chubby finally says he's an empath, ends up cornered then pretends as if he got a good empath on a MV statement, bullet somewhat meekly retreads and votes Chubby (2498)

Just seems like a contrived interactions to put themselves on apparent opposite sides.

KWhit · 07-16-2008, 01:11 PM

Oh yeah yeah. Got it, just didn't know what you were referring to.

Barkeep49 · 07-16-2008, 01:12 PM

If a person is on the spawn council that is not revealed at death, but their having any spawn powers are.

jeheinz72 · 07-16-2008, 01:13 PM

IMO, that's enough for me. I think it is unlikely that we had just 1 starting spawn. 2 seems more plausible to me. I think I'm holding off on clap until after he works with Danny. So if one of Bullet and Sal are starting spawn (since Sal's secret role isn't actually verifiable) I pick Bullet to be the starting spawn since I'd highly doubt Sal was starting spawn, given his success on missions and such.

Sal could be a converted spawn due to being off the ship so much, but we'll deal with that later, imo.

PurdueBrad · 07-16-2008, 01:31 PM

I'll put a vote out there on him then:

vote bulletsponge

KWhit · 07-16-2008, 01:41 PM

Okay guys. We need to punt with our gut feel approach. I just asked BK a few questions about it and the response from him was essentially that the Gut Feel ability wouldn't work planned out like this. The votes had to be "real" to take effect.

So umm.... That great idea I had about how find out more about Saldana, Bullet, or Clap? Never mind. Vote for whomever you want.

KWhit · 07-16-2008, 01:45 PM

Oh, and I guess that makes sense from a meta-game point of view, kind of like the rules surrounding the empath statements.

So I don't have a problem with the ruling.

claphamsa · 07-16-2008, 01:46 PM

unvote heinze
vote buletspong

claphamsa · 07-16-2008, 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KWhit

Oh, and I guess that makes sense from a meta-game point of view, kind of like the rules surrounding the empath statements.

So I don't have a problem with the ruling.

It was woerth a try

jeheinz72 · 07-16-2008, 01:48 PM

Yeah, worth a shot but I get the ruling.

My vote is still staying where it is, I think bullet doesn't have a secret role because he's a starting spawn. 2 starting spawn would be a pretty fair start, certainly more fair than 1

bulletsponge · 07-16-2008, 02:16 PM

all this Bullet hate doesnt please me

jeheinz72 · 07-16-2008, 02:20 PM

Bullet, have you been off the ship?

How do you suspect?

bulletsponge · 07-16-2008, 02:21 PM

no i havnt been off the ship

KWhit · 07-16-2008, 02:25 PM

Here's my trust list, from most Distrusted at the top to the most Trusted at the bottom.

Bulletsponge
Saldana
Claphamsa
Schmidty
jeheinz
The Jackal
PurdueBrad
Danny
KWhit

KWhit · 07-16-2008, 02:26 PM

So for now,

Vote Bulletsponge

jeheinz72 · 07-16-2008, 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bulletsponge

no i havnt been off the ship

Ok and who are you looking at and why?

bulletsponge · 07-16-2008, 02:41 PM

im not looking at anyone really

jeheinz72 · 07-16-2008, 02:42 PM

Wow, uhm. Ok then. Guess I'll see you guys tomorrow as I have no reason to change my vote.

claphamsa · 07-16-2008, 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bulletsponge

im not looking at anyone really

then open your eyes.... who do you see?

Danny · 07-16-2008, 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by claphamsa

I wiorked on the beds! Danny mis typed!

That's not what my message said.

Danny · 07-16-2008, 02:43 PM

Oh and I am hope and catching up now.

Danny · 07-16-2008, 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KWhit

Danny - You posted your work list a bit ago:

What about nights you worked also? Do you have those as well?

Those were my night actions. My ability only works during the night, it doesn't matter who I have worked with during the day.

KWhit · 07-16-2008, 02:47 PM

I'd like some more info on the Absolute Trust that PB, Jackal, and clap are claiming.

PB and Jackal, at first, what groups were you made aware of that held someone of trust for you?

jeheinz72 · 07-16-2008, 02:53 PM

Ok, so just Danny and Clap should work the beds tonight.

But we can all work the beds today. I'll put my order in for that right now

claphamsa · 07-16-2008, 02:54 PM

what about the day? oh, ok.

started repsonding befreo i finshied reading

i did put in a order to work today,a nd BK said it was ok.......

jeheinz72 · 07-16-2008, 02:55 PM

I wonder why he didn't announce it though, like all the others during the day.

I just sent mine in for today, and I'm sleeping tonight

The Jackal · 07-16-2008, 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KWhit

I'd like some more info on the Absolute Trust that PB, Jackal, and clap are claiming.

PB and Jackal, at first, what groups were you made aware of that held someone of trust for you?

At first it was privates and engineers, for me.

The Jackal · 07-16-2008, 02:57 PM

I'm having a tough time deciding between saldana and BS, I'll reserve my vote a bit longer to see what discussion gets flushed out.

claphamsa · 07-16-2008, 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeheinz72

I wonder why he didn't announce it though, like all the others during the day.

I just sent mine in for today, and I'm sleeping tonight

dunno

Danny · 07-16-2008, 03:01 PM

I sent in my orders to work the beds today and tonight.

Before I work on getting my vote, I want to tell the spawn they better think twice before messing with an engineer again! We go kung fu on you.

jeheinz72 · 07-16-2008, 03:02 PM

Hell yeah, gotta be handy with the steel, if you know what I mean. Earn ya keep.

ENGINEEEEEEEEERRRRRRSSSS!!!!!!

MOUNT UP.

claphamsa · 07-16-2008, 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny

I sent in my orders to work the beds today and tonight.

Before I work on getting my vote, I want to tell the spawn they better think twice before messing with an engineer again! We go kung fu on you.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Danny · 07-16-2008, 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Jackal

I'm having a tough time deciding between saldana and BS, I'll reserve my vote a bit longer to see what discussion gets flushed out.

I'm in the same boat right now, but am leaning towards Bullet. I could have sworn there was an exchange earlier in the day regarding Packer and Bullet about why both were exhausted. IIRC, Their little back and forth could have been playing off each other to make sure they both didn't get caught.

KWhit · 07-16-2008, 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeheinz72

I wonder why he didn't announce it though, like all the others during the day.

I just sent mine in for today, and I'm sleeping tonight

I think that clap and danny should work the beds by themselves today. Hopefully that gives us something from Danny's Spawn Awareness.

KWhit · 07-16-2008, 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Jackal

At first it was privates and engineers, for me.

And what night was that?

jeheinz72 · 07-16-2008, 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KWhit

I think that clap and danny should work the beds by themselves today. Hopefully that gives us something from Danny's Spawn Awareness.

Danny said it's only a night ability though. So I might as well work today on beds since I can't do anything else.

The Jackal · 07-16-2008, 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KWhit

And what night was that?

N1 I was attacked by a slave.

N2 I started to realize that not all the crew was bad.

N3 Started to trust engineers and privates.

The Jackal · 07-16-2008, 03:09 PM

Was clap still a private during N3?

Danny · 07-16-2008, 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeheinz72

Danny said it's only a night ability though. So I might as well work today on beds since I can't do anything else.

Yeah, it's only for night time, so we can all work the beds tonight. I think we should designate tonight who exactly we want to sleep. Let some cleared people roam the ship and make those least trusted sleep.

Danny · 07-16-2008, 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny

Yeah, it's only for night time, so we can all work the beds during the day. I think we should designate today who exactly we want to sleep. Let some cleared people roam the ship and make those least trusted sleep.

Fixed, I need to eat something before posting

KWhit · 07-16-2008, 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeheinz72

Danny said it's only a night ability though. So I might as well work today on beds since I can't do anything else.

Oh. I missed that. Clap, please make sure to work with Danny on fixing the beds tonight as well. I'm starting to trust you a little bit, but if you work some more with Danny that will help bring you closer to cleared status.

jeheinz72 · 07-16-2008, 03:16 PM

Spawn Aware Has a chance of finding out that a player is a Spawn each cycle that the Spawn Aware player spends in the same location as a Spawn. This chance increases each cycle that the two players spend together.

*BK* - Are the rules as written above (copied from 1st page) correct or should it read each night instead of cycle?

Danny · 07-16-2008, 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeheinz72

Spawn Aware Has a chance of finding out that a player is a Spawn each cycle that the Spawn Aware player spends in the same location as a Spawn. This chance increases each cycle that the two players spend together.

*BK* - Are the rules as written above (copied from 1st page) correct or should it read each night instead of cycle?

Hmmm, I could have sworn earlier we asked and he said night only, but it would be even better if it was each cycle.

KWhit · 07-16-2008, 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Jackal

Was clap still a private during N3?

No, he was an engineer by then.

jeheinz72 · 07-16-2008, 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny

Hmmm, I could have sworn earlier we asked and he said night only, but it would be even better if it was each cycle.

That could be the case and I missed it. BUt I figure a clarification from BK tells us if he goofed or if there should be doubt cast upon you.

FTR, I don't necessarily doubt you, but if it turns out that the rules as written are correct, I'll be forced to consider it.

07-16-2008, 01:46 PM	#4263
claphamsa Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: non white trash MD	unvote heinze vote buletspong __________________ Dominating Warewolf for 0 games! GIT R DUN!!!

07-16-2008, 02:54 PM	#4280
claphamsa Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: non white trash MD	what about the day? oh, ok. started repsonding befreo i finshied reading i did put in a order to work today,a nd BK said it was ok....... __________________ Dominating Warewolf for 0 games! GIT R DUN!!!

07-16-2008, 12:51 PM	#4251
jeheinz72 Pro Rookie Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Fresno, CA	Also, do folks want me to work on the beds tonight or should I sleep? Let me know I'll put in my order for tonight now.

07-16-2008, 12:53 PM	#4252
PurdueBrad Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DeKalb, IL	KWhit, I don't believe that they can pull off a mutiny because it takes an officer to start it, which we don't have. Correct?

07-16-2008, 01:11 PM	#4257
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	Oh yeah yeah. Got it, just didn't know what you were referring to.

07-16-2008, 01:12 PM	#4258
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	If a person is on the spawn council that is not revealed at death, but their having any spawn powers are.

07-16-2008, 01:13 PM	#4259
jeheinz72 Pro Rookie Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Fresno, CA	IMO, that's enough for me. I think it is unlikely that we had just 1 starting spawn. 2 seems more plausible to me. I think I'm holding off on clap until after he works with Danny. So if one of Bullet and Sal are starting spawn (since Sal's secret role isn't actually verifiable) I pick Bullet to be the starting spawn since I'd highly doubt Sal was starting spawn, given his success on missions and such. Sal could be a converted spawn due to being off the ship so much, but we'll deal with that later, imo.

07-16-2008, 01:31 PM	#4260
PurdueBrad Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DeKalb, IL	I'll put a vote out there on him then: vote bulletsponge

07-16-2008, 01:41 PM	#4261
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	Okay guys. We need to punt with our gut feel approach. I just asked BK a few questions about it and the response from him was essentially that the Gut Feel ability wouldn't work planned out like this. The votes had to be "real" to take effect. So umm.... That great idea I had about how find out more about Saldana, Bullet, or Clap? Never mind. Vote for whomever you want.

07-16-2008, 01:45 PM	#4262
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	Oh, and I guess that makes sense from a meta-game point of view, kind of like the rules surrounding the empath statements. So I don't have a problem with the ruling.

07-16-2008, 01:48 PM	#4265
jeheinz72 Pro Rookie Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Fresno, CA	Yeah, worth a shot but I get the ruling. My vote is still staying where it is, I think bullet doesn't have a secret role because he's a starting spawn. 2 starting spawn would be a pretty fair start, certainly more fair than 1

07-16-2008, 02:16 PM	#4266
bulletsponge Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: TX	all this Bullet hate doesnt please me

07-16-2008, 02:20 PM	#4267
jeheinz72 Pro Rookie Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Fresno, CA	Bullet, have you been off the ship? How do you suspect?

07-16-2008, 02:21 PM	#4268
bulletsponge Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: TX	no i havnt been off the ship

07-16-2008, 02:25 PM	#4269
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	Here's my trust list, from most Distrusted at the top to the most Trusted at the bottom. Bulletsponge Saldana Claphamsa Schmidty jeheinz The Jackal PurdueBrad Danny KWhit

07-16-2008, 02:26 PM	#4270
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	So for now, Vote Bulletsponge

07-16-2008, 02:41 PM	#4272
bulletsponge Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: TX	im not looking at anyone really

07-16-2008, 02:42 PM	#4273
jeheinz72 Pro Rookie Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Fresno, CA	Wow, uhm. Ok then. Guess I'll see you guys tomorrow as I have no reason to change my vote.

07-16-2008, 02:43 PM	#4276
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Oh and I am hope and catching up now.

07-16-2008, 02:47 PM	#4278
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	I'd like some more info on the Absolute Trust that PB, Jackal, and clap are claiming. PB and Jackal, at first, what groups were you made aware of that held someone of trust for you?

07-16-2008, 02:53 PM	#4279
jeheinz72 Pro Rookie Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Fresno, CA	Ok, so just Danny and Clap should work the beds tonight. But we can all work the beds today. I'll put my order in for that right now

07-16-2008, 02:55 PM	#4281
jeheinz72 Pro Rookie Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Fresno, CA	I wonder why he didn't announce it though, like all the others during the day. I just sent mine in for today, and I'm sleeping tonight

07-16-2008, 02:57 PM	#4283
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	I'm having a tough time deciding between saldana and BS, I'll reserve my vote a bit longer to see what discussion gets flushed out.

07-16-2008, 03:01 PM	#4285
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	I sent in my orders to work the beds today and tonight. Before I work on getting my vote, I want to tell the spawn they better think twice before messing with an engineer again! We go kung fu on you.

07-16-2008, 03:02 PM	#4286
jeheinz72 Pro Rookie Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Fresno, CA	Hell yeah, gotta be handy with the steel, if you know what I mean. Earn ya keep. ENGINEEEEEEEEERRRRRRSSSS!!!!!! MOUNT UP.

07-16-2008, 03:09 PM	#4293
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	Was clap still a private during N3?

07-16-2008, 03:16 PM	#4297
jeheinz72 Pro Rookie Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Fresno, CA	Spawn Aware Has a chance of finding out that a player is a Spawn each cycle that the Spawn Aware player spends in the same location as a Spawn. This chance increases each cycle that the two players spend together. BK - Are the rules as written above (copied from 1st page) correct or should it read each night instead of cycle?

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