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Old 09-05-2007, 09:25 PM   #301
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Old 09-05-2007, 09:25 PM   #302
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Old 09-05-2007, 09:26 PM   #303
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DT, no vote today means you get my vote tomorrow.

I need to think about this more after the dealine. I'm gonna vote, but I don't feel good about it. Nor about what path is saying...
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Old 09-05-2007, 09:26 PM   #304
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Just a note, its possible Neon is lying about his role but is still a villager. That would be ballsy, but might work.
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Old 09-05-2007, 09:27 PM   #305
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People voted for Neon because he seems to want to start a bandwagon on everyone else. From personal experience I would do my best to get anyonet o vote for people other then me so I dont blame him


The problem here is that with his reveal he shows himself to have played really poorly here. As the seer he really shouldn't have been leapfrog-voting all damned night. it just caused suspicion that he couldn;t turn away because its day 1 and there is no evidence to protect him.
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Old 09-05-2007, 09:27 PM   #306
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FTR I think this was a reveal that shouldn't have happened. It looked like we were going to go down with a tie (as Neon could have changed his vote in self preservation). Now we've burned the friggin seer day 1.
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Old 09-05-2007, 09:27 PM   #307
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Just a note, its possible Neon is lying about his role but is still a villager. That would be ballsy, but might work.


Worst move ever.

Out yourself and the real seer and do all of the wolves work for them.. Anyone doing that would be my day one vote forever.
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Old 09-05-2007, 09:28 PM   #308
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Old 09-05-2007, 09:28 PM   #309
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Old 09-05-2007, 09:28 PM   #310
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Just a note, its possible Neon is lying about his role but is still a villager. That would be ballsy, but might work.
That would be ballsy.
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Old 09-05-2007, 09:28 PM   #311
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Old 09-05-2007, 09:29 PM   #312
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The problem here is that with his reveal he shows himself to have played really poorly here. As the seer he really shouldn't have been leapfrog-voting all damned night. it just caused suspicion that he couldn;t turn away because its day 1 and there is no evidence to protect him.

I DIDN'T LEAPFROG!

AlanT voted for me because he said I was bandwagoning, and OF COURSE I would switch my vote over to him.

Crap. Get your facts straight people.
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Old 09-05-2007, 09:29 PM   #313
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Old 09-05-2007, 09:29 PM   #314
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Worst move ever.

Out yourself and the real seer and do all of the wolves work for them.. Anyone doing that would be my day one vote forever.
Really? If you're the seer you announce the lie? Why not scan him that night instead? At least that way you get the confirmed 1-1? Also makes Neon a more likely night kill. No if I'm the seer I don't announce there at all and wouldn't after he came up clear from the scan.
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Old 09-05-2007, 09:30 PM   #315
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Really? If you're the seer you announce the lie? Why not scan him that night instead? At least that way you get the confirmed 1-1? Also makes Neon a more likely night kill. No if I'm the seer I don't announce there at all and wouldn't after he came up clear from the scan.

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Old 09-05-2007, 09:31 PM   #316
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I DIDN'T LEAPFROG!

AlanT voted for me because he said I was bandwagoning, and OF COURSE I would switch my vote over to him.

Crap. Get your facts straight people.
See this sort of defense would have been better a little while ago . I'd have loved to have worked through this with you.
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Old 09-05-2007, 09:31 PM   #317
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Really? If you're the seer you announce the lie? Why not scan him that night instead? At least that way you get the confirmed 1-1? Also makes Neon a more likely night kill. No if I'm the seer I don't announce there at all and wouldn't after he came up clear from the scan.

If I am the seer and someone claims they are the seer when about to be lynched, I dont waste a seer scan on them. I assume they are bad.

Whether or not I reveal right away depends on where in the game we are, but I definitly chalk that person up to be a wolf.
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Old 09-05-2007, 09:31 PM   #318
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I DIDN'T LEAPFROG!

AlanT voted for me because he said I was bandwagoning, and OF COURSE I would switch my vote over to him.

Crap. Get your facts straight people.

Facts or not, you brought negative attention to yourself and if you are indeed the seer it was a bad play. As the seer you have to protect yourself. if you want to be the out front in the open seer (like I tried to do in the clue game) you have to make sure people aren't coming after YOU because then you end up outing yourself.

When you saw the votes coming your way you should have just relaxed a bit and let the flow move to someone else.
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Old 09-05-2007, 09:31 PM   #319
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Old 09-05-2007, 09:31 PM   #320
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I lost count, but we may very well have got a tie there.
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Old 09-05-2007, 09:32 PM   #321
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Old 09-05-2007, 09:32 PM   #322
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I don't need people lecturing me.

As a note, I am scanning Hoopsguy tonight.
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Old 09-05-2007, 09:32 PM   #323
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Old 09-05-2007, 09:33 PM   #324
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Old 09-05-2007, 09:33 PM   #325
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Only because (in 1.5 pages of frantic scanning of posts, plus quick-posting as needed) path seemed to jump on people for 1. Not posting (I can see how this is an indicator though) and 2. Saying they didn't want a day one lynch...

I need to give this more thought, because I see that others are agreeing with path (specifically about DT not voting is suspicious) but I don't see how a day one lynch helps us. I only ever remember reading one game with a day one wolf lynch. Is it common at all?

Well I guess we're about to find out...


And, path, once I read the thread I'll comment further about suspecting you or not. I just felt pressured to vote someone, and have some reason for it, so there ya go.
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Old 09-05-2007, 09:33 PM   #326
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So the bodyguard better keep my ass protected.


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Old 09-05-2007, 09:35 PM   #327
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I hate the nonvoting stance, but I don't see how that makes DT a wolf. Why would he want to stand out?
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Old 09-05-2007, 09:36 PM   #328
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Is Render playing this way because he's the hidden convert and trying to draw attention to himself?
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Old 09-05-2007, 09:36 PM   #329
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Only because (in 1.5 pages of frantic scanning of posts, plus quick-posting as needed) path seemed to jump on people for 1. Not posting (I can see how this is an indicator though) and 2. Saying they didn't want a day one lynch...

I need to give this more thought, because I see that others are agreeing with path (specifically about DT not voting is suspicious) but I don't see how a day one lynch helps us. I only ever remember reading one game with a day one wolf lynch. Is it common at all?

Well I guess we're about to find out...


And, path, once I read the thread I'll comment further about suspecting you or not. I just felt pressured to vote someone, and have some reason for it, so there ya go.

I've got no problem with your vote, Crim. I'm pretty consistent on my stance -- a) that those who don't check in are my first day 1 choices and b) except in very rare cases (the clue game for example), I'm one of those who supports the idea that lynches are a good thing.

Now I guess I can add c) not voting on purpose. That both helps you hide a voting record and is not helpful for the village.
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Old 09-05-2007, 09:36 PM   #330
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I hate the nonvoting stance, but I don't see how that makes DT a wolf. Why would he want to stand out?

I agree with this, I only see how it would've pointed that way if he purposely unbroke a tie to lynch someone.
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Old 09-05-2007, 09:36 PM   #331
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only saves you for tonight, tomorrow night you end up dead.

I still have my item. It's a 25% chance to save me from the wolves. I'm not using it tonight, guys. Will reserve it for tomorrow.
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Old 09-05-2007, 09:37 PM   #332
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I agree with this, I only see how it would've pointed that way if he purposely unbroke a tie to lynch someone.

Or by not voting preserved a tie, or knew we were villager/villager and it didn't matter.
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Old 09-05-2007, 09:38 PM   #333
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Is Render playing this way because he's the hidden convert and trying to draw attention to himself?

God, I hope not. With the BG busy keeping my ass safe...

well, at least we'll know if a conversion occurs, right?
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Old 09-05-2007, 09:38 PM   #334
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blah. This is a fustercluck
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Old 09-05-2007, 09:38 PM   #335
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Is Render playing this way because he's the hidden convert and trying to draw attention to himself?


Think about that post for a bit Alan. If I were the hidden convert why would I bring attention to myself. If I'm lynched I'm lynched, that doesn't help the wolves. I want them to try killing me, this certainly isn't a the play style that would garner me a wolf targeting, they'd be more inclined to ignore me as the rest of you will probably lynch me at some point.
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Old 09-05-2007, 09:38 PM   #336
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Or by not voting preserved a tie, or knew we were villager/villager and it didn't matter.

Yea, true and better explained than my post.
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Old 09-05-2007, 09:39 PM   #337
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well, this should be interesting
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Old 09-05-2007, 09:40 PM   #338
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Old 09-05-2007, 09:41 PM   #339
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Think about that post for a bit Alan. If I were the hidden convert why would I bring attention to myself. If I'm lynched I'm lynched, that doesn't help the wolves. I want them to try killing me, this certainly isn't a the play style that would garner me a wolf targeting, they'd be more inclined to ignore me as the rest of you will probably lynch me at some point.

I kind of agree with this.

If one was the hidden convert they may come out and declare themselves to be the seer.
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Old 09-05-2007, 09:41 PM   #340
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blah. This is a fustercluck

You certainly didn't do much to help clear things up.
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Old 09-05-2007, 09:42 PM   #341
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I kind of agree with this.

If one was the hidden convert they may come out and declare themselves to be the seer.




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Old 09-05-2007, 09:42 PM   #342
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Old 09-05-2007, 09:42 PM   #343
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I kind of agree with this.

If one was the hidden convert they may come out and declare themselves to be the seer.

That's a helluva good point. I hadn't thought of that.
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Old 09-05-2007, 09:43 PM   #344
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except in very rare cases (the clue game for example), I'm one of those who supports the idea that lynches are a good thing.

Okee... that was my only game.
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Old 09-05-2007, 09:44 PM   #345
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I kind of agree with this.

If one was the hidden convert they may come out and declare themselves to be the seer.

True. But the hidden convert wouldn't have an item to help block wolf attacks now, would he?
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Old 09-05-2007, 09:44 PM   #346
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Okee... that was my only game.

And why I didn't mind the vote.
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Old 09-05-2007, 09:44 PM   #347
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DT's most probably the "duke" role.
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Old 09-05-2007, 09:45 PM   #348
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True. But the hidden convert wouldn't have an item to help block wolf attacks now, would he?

Depends on if it's random distribution or not. I'll have to recheck the rules but I don't remember it being said one way or the other.
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Old 09-05-2007, 09:45 PM   #349
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DT's most probably the "duke" role.


Thats my assumption based on his comment
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Old 09-05-2007, 09:45 PM   #350
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