The FOFC cyberdunk team

[Icy]

Originally Posted by CU Tiger

BTW, who else played at C????

I think that PG Rocket Heat, but that is a known bug. When a player fouls out, a random one is inserted instead of the backup

[JAG]

Jace is The Man

[JAG]

We're facing the 4th ranked team from the English Premier League. Their average value is 13 better than us. Yikes.

[wade moore]

Way to go Jace, you're the man!

[Icy]

Originally Posted by JAG

We're facing the 4th ranked team from the English Premier League. Their average value is 13 better than us. Yikes.

Yup, today is a secure loss so the backups will "enjoy" the defeat

[Ragone]

Jordanov no want to play in this game..

France Division 7 - Paris power is a 5.7x underdog.. take them and bet it all.. looks secure as my last bet

[Icy]

Expected loss, with that, we are out of the cup. Good game from backup PG Rocket heat!

Uptown Rayguns home team

Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4 Total 52 49 47 55 203 15 17 13 11 56

away team London Fofc Ballers

Cup Game, Day: 25, Season: 4	United Kingdom
Top This Game Uptown Rayguns London Fofc Ballers Man Of the match Rick Fury Points La Peace 42 Rocket Heath 23 Assists Ryan Watson 13 Shaq Wannabeme 6 Rebounds Rick Fury 17 Shaq Wannabeme 2 Steals Stephen Harrington 3 John Snow 2 Blocks Rick Fury 6 Wade Moore 1

London Fofc Ballers Stats
Player Name	POS	QRT	PTS	FGM/A	3PM/A	FTM/A	STL	BLK	A	OR	DR	F	MIN
Jace Hunter	PG	all	3	0 /5	0 /5	3 /4	0	0	3	1	0	1	12:00
Shaq Wannabeme	C	all	2	0 /18	0 /1	2 /8	0	0	6	1	1	2	46:56
Sam Jolley	PF	all	4	1 /11	0 /0	2 /4	0	0	0	0	1	4	36:00
Rocket Heath	PG	all	23	6 /11	2 /12	5 /6	0	0	0	0	0	2	24:00
John Snow	SF	all	6	0 /16	0 /0	6 /8	2	1	3	0	1	4	36:00
Mikheal Jordanov	SG	all	4	1 /5	0 /3	2 /3	0	0	1	0	1	1	36:00
Joshua Wolfe	SF	all	0	0 /1	0 /0	0 /0	1	0	0	0	0	1	12:00
Ivan Carrillo	PF	all	10	3 /9	0 /0	4 /8	0	1	0	0	0	1	12:00
Al Mighty	SG	all	0	0 /3	0 /2	0 /2	1	0	0	0	0	1	12:00
Wade Moore	PG	all	4	1 /4	0 /3	2 /2	0	1	1	0	1	0	12:00
Manuel Martin	C	all	0	0 /0	0 /0	0 /0	0	0	0	0	0	0	01:04

[damnMikeBrown]

So they sort of had a little edge in rebounding, eh?

[CU Tiger]

I am injured, and abused.........Rick Fury is My Daddy....

[duckman]

I'm a fucking scoring machine!

[Travis]

Ratings updated

[Travis]

Tactics for today?

[Travis]

Today?

[Icy]

Sorry guys i have been bussy with other stuff in the last 2 days (and we have lost those games )

Today tactics:
We face a team that is better than us in some positions, but weaker in the PG and PF ones, so let's feed the ball to those:

Starters play intensity: HARD
Backups play intensity: HARD

Shooting Parameters: Each one set the % to his best player abilities but following this more or less:

C and PF: 75 inside, 20 floor, 5 three
SF: 20 inside, 60 floor, 20 three
SG and PG: 5 inside, 60 floor, 35 three

Jordanov, i want you to shoot mroe 3s as you are good at it so:
0 inside, 40 floor, 60 three

If any of you is really good at three (40+), raise that value.

Play Style: Normal for everybody but the PGs.
PGs play style: Special team player

Play Time: Short for everybody to create more chances and to move the ball fast. If you have 40+ at dribling, you can set it at normal.

Passing Preferences: Our best best scorers (PG, PF) will receive most of the load.

For the PG's set it to:
C=25%
PF=40%
SF=15%
SG=20%

For the SG's set it to:
C=15%
PF=35%
SF=10%
PG=40%

For the SF's set it to:
C=15%
PF=30%
SG=15%
PG=40%

For the PF's set it to:
C=25%
SF=10%
SG=20%
PG=45%

For the C's set it to:
PF=30%
SF=10%
SG=20%
PG=40%

[Icy]

Today bet:

Day 30

Australia
Division 7
Houston Roughnecks (Human, 25.67) x4.1
Whitely Energy (Computer, 18.9) x1.3

[rjolley]

Tactics set and bet made earlier.

[Travis]

Tactics set, ready to roll.

[damnMikeBrown]

My undersized SG is progressing nicely..finally filling in the stats sheet with some nice points totals. Any thoughts from anybody on the value of speed vs. jumping for an offensive player? I'm thinking speed gets the edge (literally & figuratively) as far as where any minor emphasis would go. Any opinions contrary?

[Travis]

Originally Posted by damnMikeBrown

My undersized SG is progressing nicely..finally filling in the stats sheet with some nice points totals. Any thoughts from anybody on the value of speed vs. jumping for an offensive player? I'm thinking speed gets the edge (literally & figuratively) as far as where any minor emphasis would go. Any opinions contrary?

I could be totally wrong on this, but the impression I've gotten from reading on their forums is that speed helps you get open looks for shots while jumping will help you get off a better shot in traffic, literally rising above the competition. So for the little guys, I'm guessing speed is likely going to be handier early on and I just finished back to back speed trainings to get it up to 40 before bonuses and noticed an improvement in Jace's performance vs higher skilled teams as opposed to the previous few games prior to the training.

Could also just be happenstance. I'll be able to comment a bit more in a few days as I'm in the process of doing back to back jumping training.

[Icy]

Today bet:

DAY 32
Italy League 2
5.1 Catania Timerwolves [19.6] vs Eldo Napoli 1.3 [15.4]

[Icy]

Today game is a secure loss, the backups will get most of the time.

[Travis]

Originally Posted by Icy

Today game is a secure loss, the backups will get most of the time.

Assuming that is for tomorrow's game or am I missing a Cup bracket game somewhere?

[CU Tiger]

hmmmm...any value in betting on our opponent?

[thealmighty]

stats updated

[JeeberD]

Hey Icy, my current contract is up and I'm a free agent at the moment...

[CU Tiger]

players page updated

I am focuisng on blocking and rebounding to be a shut down specialist if needed

[Ragone]

we should have dominated that game.. curious as to why our backups played the major minutes

[BreizhManu]

My guess is that Icy has not connected since the previous game and therefore we still have the backups has starters.

[damnMikeBrown]

I've been playing 'hard' on my team since I saw that was how everybody here had their players set. The results have been great, with very little stamina drop..usually go from a 95% to a 93%, something like that.

Yesterday my kid filled it up. Went 10/14 from the floor, another 5/6 from behind the arc, 7/8 from the line (42pts). 7 assists, 2 offensive, 9 defensive rebounds and a steal just to put a check in every box. Filled the stat line nicely...stamina is down to 75% from 95%...first time I've seen a drop that precipitous. It is, I think, 6 more shots that I've ever taken before. Stamina is 34 with items.

[JAG]

This info regarding how to train / build your player would've been nice when we were starting, but better late than never:

hxxp://www.talkdep.com/showthread.php?t=59341

tclass
Manager Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 520

The biggest mistakes that new players make.

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Rather than try to make yet ANOTHER "how to" list I thought that I'd just share some things that I've seen over & over again in this game in regards to player development gone wrong...

Anyone can feel free to jump in of course and add their 2 cents!

If your player isn't performing as well as you'd like it's probably because of one (or more!) of these things...

1) Your player's skills are TOO EVENLY SPREAD.

Given the choice between a player with 25 in ALL skills or a player with 35 in some skills and 10 others I've found that the more "specialized" player will perform better (given that the right skills are the higher ones). There's little point (right now anyway) in raising all THREE shooting skills to 40 when you could have ONE at 80+. One high shooting stat ensures that you'll be able to score against tough defenders.... well-rounded shooting only ensures that you'll get shut down (unless you have 2 shooting stats over 100 lol)

2) Too much emphasis placed on ancillary skills.

I've seen SO many PGs witrh ridiculously high Passing skills... and SO many big men with high rebounding skills... and I ask myself WHY? IMO these users are WASTING valuable points that could be placed in shooting, blocking and physical skills, which are the bread & butter of this game. Rebounding and Passing are very subjective skills which depend alot on your team settings as well as the opponent that you are playing. While shooting and blocking and stealing are INDIVIDUAL skills, rebounding and passing are affected much more by the general game play.

3) Not enough emphasis placed on defensive skills.

As laughable as that sounds given the amount of talk that's gone on about blocking this season I STILL see alot of new players with pathetically low defensive skills. There's just no WAY that your guy should have a blk rating of 17 or less unless he's such a ridiculously good shooter that he won't be a total liability on the floor. Always remember... a great scorer with bad defense CAN'T defend... but a GREAT defender with bad offense can surprise you once in a while (if he has good physical skills).

4) Not enough attention paid to physical skills.

These skills (STR, SPD, JUMP, STAM) are absolute GOLD if you train them religiously. All 4 can positively affect BOTH your player's offense AND defense. SPD helps with stealing... JMP helps with blocking... STR with rebounding etc... Scorers and defenders become MUCH better when they have good physical skills to match. I have several players who play in Top 10 leagues against great teams and don't have a shooting stat over 50, yet score 20 pts/gm. Why? Great physical stats. Don't neglect them.

5) Not realizing the importance of custom equip. (T & O are gonna LOVE me for this one.. lol)

Custom equip. is what separates the good player from the GREAT player in this game. As good as the best store-bought items are, they can't give you the bonuses that you need sometimes in order to REALLY dominate. An accessory that gives you +45 in either Floor shooting or Blocking can take your player to a whole other level. That being said, I'm not advocating that everyone HAS to go out and get this stuff. Not everyone has access to credit cards and easy CDP. But the reality is that best players in this game are using this stuff, no question... and the best TEAMS are chock full of these types of players. Just be aware.


6) Not "choosing a path" for your player early on.

In this game there are 2 types of players. Offensive players and defensive players. When you start to get into higher ratings (30+) you have enough skill points by then to start rounding out your guy, but when you're starting out it MOST effective to go one way or the other. If you're offensive then you train a shooting skill, stamina, confidence and perhaps some physicals as well. If you're defensive then you're concerned with blocking (REGARDLESS of position!), stealing and physical skills. The sooner you make an effort to concentrate, the better your guy will be in his early career. SPECIALIZATION IS KEY! I can't stress that enough.


(later in the thread, he mentions the following summary of his thoughts):

(Pure) Offensive: Shooting > Physical Stat > Confidence & Stamina > Defense

(Pure) Defensive: Blocking/Stealing > Physical Stat > Stamina > Offensive > Confidence

[Icy]

Sorry guys, i have been without internet at my wife's parents for the holydays so i couldn't update the tactics. I'm back today and will start to work on the team page, tactics etc today.

[Icy]

Today best bet

Day 38

Netherlands Division 6

x4.7 Minnesota Timberwolves(H18.62) vs Tilburg Ballers(C15.32) x1.3

[Icy]

Today is a game we will lose for sure, so the backups will get play time.

[JeeberD]

Jeeber D Mack is now officially an FOFC Baller.

[JeeberD]

Dola-

While I'm listed as a PF, on my last team I played primarily C and thrived in that position. Just some food for thought...

[Icy]

Originally Posted by JeeberD

Dola-

While I'm listed as a PF, on my last team I played primarily C and thrived in that position. Just some food for thought...

I see you're a 2'15" player so yes, you will play mainly as C.

I'll try to add you today to the team page so you can set your ratings etc.

[damnMikeBrown]

That makes 12 on the team. What are the prospects for the 2nd team now? Do we still have enough people playing to think about it?

[JeeberD]

Originally Posted by Icy

I'll try to add you today to the team page so you can set your ratings etc.

Thanks. Does anyone have the number 10? If not, I would like to claim it...

[Icy]

Originally Posted by damnMikeBrown

That makes 12 on the team. What are the prospects for the 2nd team now? Do we still have enough people playing to think about it?

It could be fun to have two FOFC teams and some rivalries, also will give more playing time to other FOFCers not in the London Ballers team.

[CU Tiger]

stats updated....
wish id read that earlier, Im on my way too a blocking and rebounding machine, guess Ill focus on blocking from now on

[Icy]

Today bet:

Day 40 BET

Computer Vs Human

Austria Division 7

x1.3 Linz Salamanders [18.68/9 players] vs Ben Davis Giants x4.5 [19.56/11 players ]

[Icy]

Looking into maximizing our best players, i'm trying this lineup for today: (easy game we should win)

Lineup
Centers			value
C		Manuel Martin	27.5
C		Shaq Wannabeme	22.4
Power Forwards			value
PF		Jeeber D Mack	27.3
PF		Sam Jolley	25.2
Point Guards			value
PG		Jace Hunter	32.2
PG		Wade Moore	23.3
PG		Rocket Heath	23.1
Small Forwards			value
SF		Ivan Carrillo	28.8
SF		John Snow	25.6
SF		Joshua Wolfe	23.6
Shooting Guards			value
SG		Al Mighty	25.5
SG		Mikheal Jordanov	24.7

Sorry don't havetime to write tactics now (familly here) but we should win anyway.

[Icy]

Good win:

Edimburgh Highlanders home team

Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4 Total 11 20 9 6 46 41 37 42 46 166

away team London Fofc Ballers

League Game, Day: 39 , Season: 4	Second League
Top This Game Edimburgh Highlanders London Fofc Ballers Man Of the match John Snow Points Jacek Dunker 17 Mikheal Jordanov 25 Assists Kepa Trenoble 5 Ivan Carrillo 7 Rebounds Jacek Dunker 10 John Snow 16 Steals Kepa Trenoble 1 Ivan Carrillo 4 Blocks Linass Kleizaa 2 Sam Jolley 3

London Fofc Ballers Stats
Player Name	POS	QRT	PTS	FGM/A	3PM/A	FTM/A	STL	BLK	A	OR	DR	F	MIN
Wade Moore	PG	all	5	1 /1	1 /1	0 /0	2	1	4	0	1	1	12:00
Jeeber D Mack	PF	all	19	7 /13	0 /0	5 /6	2	2	5	1	1	3	36:00
Ivan Carrillo	SF	all	23	9 /11	1 /1	2 /2	4	0	7	1	6	1	36:00
Manuel Martin	C	all	21	9 /13	0 /0	3 /4	1	1	4	2	11	1	36:00
Jace Hunter	PG	all	16	4 /7	1 /6	5 /6	0	2	6	1	3	0	24:00
Al Mighty	SG	all	22	5 /8	2 /3	6 /6	2	0	4	0	8	0	24:00
Rocket Heath	PG	all	7	1 /2	1 /1	2 /2	2	0	4	0	0	0	12:00
Sam Jolley	PF	all	5	2 /5	0 /0	1 /2	0	3	4	0	2	2	12:00
Mikheal Jordanov	SG	all	25	9 /12	0 /2	7 /7	1	0	3	2	5	0	24:00
John Snow	SF	all	23	10 /13	0 /0	3 /4	2	1	3	3	13	0	24:00

[JeeberD]

Two solid games for me so far...

[JAG]

2nd MOM of John Snow's career.

[Icy]

Rofl, good game guys, Jeeber D gets his first MOM and proves to be a good signing.

London Fofc Ballers home team

Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4 Total 43 37 44 46 170 2 0 0 3 5

away team Luton Ballers

League Game, Day: 40 , Season: 4	Second League
Top This Game London Fofc Ballers Luton Ballers Man Of the match Jeeber D Mack Points Jeeber D Mack 33 Rickinho Dorti 3 Assists Manuel Martin 10 Micha Klein 2 Rebounds John Snow 13 Micha Klein 4 Steals John Snow 3 Rickinho Dorti 2 Blocks Jeeber D Mack 7 Jrgsdf Rsdf 1

London Fofc Ballers Stats
Player Name	POS	QRT	PTS	FGM/A	3PM/A	FTM/A	STL	BLK	A	OR	DR	F	MIN
Al Mighty	SG	all	15	7 /8	0 /2	1 /2	1	0	2	2	7	0	24:00
Rocket Heath	PG	all	14	3 /4	2 /5	2 /2	1	0	4	0	2	0	12:00
Jeeber D Mack	PF	all	33	16 /17	0 /0	1 /2	2	7	5	1	5	0	36:00
Ivan Carrillo	SF	all	22	10 /16	0 /0	2 /4	3	0	6	0	3	0	36:00
Manuel Martin	C	all	12	5 /8	0 /0	2 /6	1	2	10	2	7	0	36:00
Jace Hunter	PG	all	31	4 /7	6 /7	5 /6	0	2	9	0	4	0	24:00
John Snow	SF	all	21	10 /11	0 /0	1 /2	3	0	2	2	11	0	24:00
Mikheal Jordanov	SG	all	7	0 /2	1 /4	4 /4	2	0	5	0	9	0	24:00
Wade Moore	PG	all	9	3 /3	1 /1	0 /0	1	0	3	0	2	0	12:00
Sam Jolley	PF	all	6	2 /3	0 /0	2 /2	1	0	3	0	0	1	12:00

[daedalus]

jeeb da man!

[daedalus]

good board-work by al mighty, john snow, manuel martin and mikheal jordanov.

[CU Tiger]

I feel so exiled

I was MoM 2 consecutive matches, we sign Jeeber and I havent seen the court.....

I goota train harder. Not sure what determines overall rating or what im doing wrong at this point but my rates dont seem to be growing as fast as others....

[Travis]

Originally Posted by CU Tiger

I feel so exiled

I was MoM 2 consecutive matches, we sign Jeeber and I havent seen the court.....

I goota train harder. Not sure what determines overall rating or what im doing wrong at this point but my rates dont seem to be growing as fast as others....

Your overall is just your total ratings divided by the number of stats (so 13). The +6 in 3 day training is what I'm mostly using right now (also done the CP boost in both seasons).

Really though, as illustrated in the article above, overall doesn't mean as much as how good your build is. Specializing seems to be the ticket and I'm just starting to get into that moreso than any point before now, so your best bet might be to talk with Icy and see what role best suits Shaq to complement other players at the same position to get more floor time in specific situations.