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Old 06-19-2018, 10:34 PM   #751
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Somebody, maybe Deadspin, had a Bagley to Sac story a few days ago.

Thx, musta whooshed right by me.

I'm still thinking smokescreen but I guess we'll see.
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Old 06-20-2018, 02:38 AM   #752
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I don't see Vlade not going with Doncic, but at the same time fully expect him to somehow fall to the Mavs for some reason.
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Old 06-21-2018, 12:45 AM   #753
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Cavs better not pass on Trae Young. Give me something to be entertained by, plz.
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Old 06-21-2018, 12:57 AM   #754
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Cavs better not pass on Trae Young. Give me something to be entertained by, plz.

Seeing how many points the other team can score?
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Old 06-21-2018, 01:52 AM   #755
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I feel like this draft is one of the biggest unknowns we have ever had. Outside the 1st pick, it seems everything is up for grabs.
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Old 06-21-2018, 07:49 PM   #756
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1st trade of the night
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Old 06-21-2018, 08:02 PM   #757
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Daytona been the best paid player in college for some time. Kid is the real deal
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Old 06-21-2018, 08:02 PM   #758
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I don't see history judging this Hawks-Mavs trade very well... Coup for the Mavs IMO.
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Old 06-21-2018, 08:10 PM   #759
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I don't see history judging this Hawks-Mavs trade very well... Coup for the Mavs IMO.

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Hawks already had a bottom 10 defense - it's about to get worse.
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Old 06-21-2018, 08:17 PM   #760
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Or Trae Young could end up being the next Curry while the Mavs just got the next Marco Jaric. NBA draft is far from predictable. Trae Young doesnt strike me as a player that wont be able to handle the next level. He was dealing with double teams and half court traps the entire 2nd part of the season.

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Old 06-21-2018, 08:21 PM   #761
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Or Trae Young could end up being the next Curry while the Mavs just got the next Marco Jaric. NBA draft is far from predictable. Trae Young doesnt strike me as a player that wont be able to handle the next level. He was dealing with double teams and half court traps the entire 2nd part of the season.

True, although Jaric didn't have nearly the same European career as Doncic has to this point (and in a much stronger league). Not sure Trae Young would have logged more than 8-10 mins a game at best in the Spanish league last season - maybe for one of the bottom of the ladder teams.
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Old 06-21-2018, 08:26 PM   #762
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Old 06-21-2018, 08:27 PM   #763
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Don't forget, Atlanta picked up a protected future first for the trade as well. They did well. Young will be a good player, though Doncic will be a better player over the first couple of years at least.

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Old 06-21-2018, 08:27 PM   #764
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Michael Porter Jr. to the Sixers?
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Old 06-21-2018, 08:29 PM   #765
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Michael Porter Jr. to the Sixers?

That would be interesting.
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Old 06-21-2018, 08:31 PM   #766
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Good fit for Philly. Bridges can do a lot of different things well.
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Old 06-21-2018, 08:36 PM   #767
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I wish the Cavs had rolled the dice on Porter Jr.
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Old 06-21-2018, 09:19 PM   #768
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Brett Brown did not like Mikal Bridges THAT much after all.
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Old 06-21-2018, 09:48 PM   #769
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Is there a more perfect person for Utah than Grayson Allen?
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Old 06-21-2018, 10:02 PM   #770
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Is there a more perfect person for Utah than Grayson Allen?

LOL! I have four different message boards up discussing the draft and someone has now made the same observation on all of them.
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Old 06-21-2018, 10:06 PM   #771
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Just don't understand the Sixers trading Bridges, who was a perfect pick. Maybe they foresaw chemistry issues?
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Old 06-21-2018, 10:10 PM   #772
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Just don't understand the Sixers trading Bridges, who was a perfect pick. Maybe they foresaw chemistry issues?
They secretly slid in Hinkie to be the GM for the draft. And the combination of a project player plus an unprotected future #1 was too enticing for him! #process2.0
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Old 06-21-2018, 10:38 PM   #773
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Just don't understand the Sixers trading Bridges, who was a perfect pick. Maybe they foresaw chemistry issues?

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They secretly slid in Hinkie to be the GM for the draft.

Or QuikSand.
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Old 06-21-2018, 10:47 PM   #774
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Pretty funny when you bet over 2.5 on Villanova players in the first round. I’m thinking it’s Bridges, Donte and Brunson. Then Brunson doesn’t go but Omari Spellmn goes 30th
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Old 06-21-2018, 11:12 PM   #775
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LOL! I have four different message boards up discussing the draft and someone has now made the same observation on all of them.

I was watching the draft in the kitchen at work and even in Australia two separate people said basically the same thing, while I at least thought it in my head.
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Old 06-21-2018, 11:18 PM   #776
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I wish the Cavs had rolled the dice on Porter Jr.

Me too.
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Old 06-21-2018, 11:37 PM   #777
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Hawks gonna Hawks.

You pass up at least a potential generational talent to draft a guy who couldn't guard 50 year olds on a dare.

Write it down: Jon Koncak ends up with a better NBA career than Trae "I disappeared faster than Hoffa" Young.
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Old 06-22-2018, 07:47 AM   #778
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Just don't understand the Sixers trading Bridges, who was a perfect pick. Maybe they foresaw chemistry issues?

I don't get it either.
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Old 06-22-2018, 10:15 AM   #779
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Brown said they loved Bridges. After they picked him, Suns offered Smith plus the unprotected 2021 1st (which Brown noted will probably be the first year when high school players are eligible again for the draft). Per Brown, he couldn't pass up the 2021 first, and, reading between the lines, they intend to dangle that pick in front of the Spurs as part of a Leonard offer.
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Old 06-22-2018, 11:06 AM   #780
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I don't get the full appeal of that pick. In 2021, the Heat will have all their big/bad contracts off the books (Dragic, Bosh, Ty Johnson, Whiteside and Waiters). They will have gone from a $115 mil salary cap level 19/20 to about $25 mil in 20/21. If you assume their draft picks and a few mid level exception FAs, they should have enough room for 2-3 Max guys plus have added 2 more first round picks. I can't see anyway that Riley + 2 max cap slots + no pick does not equal a playoff team in the East. There's no reason for them to tank that year without their pick. I think the Suns were smart to move it as it will be less appealing the closer you get to it. Remember, the Heat have only drafted 10th or lower (10th -Winslow) once in the last 10 years. They've been mostly in the teens since Lebron left. I could maybe see them bottoming out in 2020 (have their pick and some bad contracts left), but by 2021 I expect them to put on the full court press in FA.
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Old 06-22-2018, 12:56 PM   #781
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Any unprotected pick that belongs to a team without an obvious path to contention has good value. It's definitely an asset that could be part of a package to bring in another star if the opportunity presents itself.

The Sixers saved a million, which helps them get to max cap space, and got the higher upside player. The Suns got a NBA ready wing that plays defense, which they desperately needed.

Both teams checked off the boxes they wanted to check off in this deal.
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Yeah, I think it has value - but people are acting like the Suns gave up a potential top 3 pick to Philly. It's probably going to be in the 12-17 range. So, would you trade the 16th pick this year plus the 14th pick in 3 years to get the 10th pick now? Seems like a pretty fair trade. Where it may really work out is if Philly can parlay it into a bigger player because someone else really values it.

Still, you have to wonder if going from a very talented/ready wing to compliment Simmons and Embiid to a project is worth a 1st 3 years from now if you are trying to win. If Philly doesn't trade this pick for an upgrade, I don't think you can look at this trade as a success for them. Smith is a pretty big project and I'd be shocked if he got any kind of minutes next year for Philly.
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Old 06-22-2018, 10:35 PM   #783
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I see Young as a guy who can score a lot of points and put up big numbers on a bad team, but I don't see him being a guy who helps a team win a championship. I think Doncic is a potential franchise player.
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Old 06-23-2018, 12:42 PM   #784
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Melo opting into his player option of 27.9M with OKC.

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Old 06-23-2018, 02:38 PM   #785
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Melo opting into his player option of 27.9M with OKC.

LOL

He would have been crazy not to.
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Old 06-23-2018, 04:04 PM   #786
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Might be a buyout discussion coming esp. if George walks I think
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Old 06-23-2018, 04:08 PM   #787
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Don't forget with the 76ers getting the Heat pick from the Suns, there is talk that the one and done rule is going to be ending, and that it will end for the 2021 draft at the earliest.
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Old 06-24-2018, 02:05 AM   #788
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He would have been crazy not to.

Right? I can't believe this is a story.
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Old 06-24-2018, 02:27 AM   #789
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Howard getting bought out and joining someone(Golden State?).

I imagine Melo gets stretched if Paul George leaves.
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Old 06-24-2018, 06:15 PM   #790
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