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Old 05-06-2015, 09:35 AM   #251
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Unless you're just saying that you don't see any sorcerorish posts so the initial not knowing each other is in fact still the norm. But I do need to be on more of a lookout for sorcery posts

Correct, I do not see anything in the thread that I felt was a signal.
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Old 05-06-2015, 09:35 AM   #252
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Only this game we have zero reveals... so we are quiet and in the dark.

Seer info is going to be huge. If they don't end up revealing anything, it'll probably be too easy for the wolves to manipulate things. I don't get the feeling that brit was a wolf or the sorceror, so I'm still assuming we have all three left.
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Old 05-06-2015, 09:36 AM   #253
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Correct, I do not see anything in the thread that I felt was a signal.

Sorry for jumping ... to conclusions

(just watched office space the other day)
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Old 05-06-2015, 09:37 AM   #254
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Dammit grover... are you evil again this game. I was leaning good on you early but since middle of D1 you have been more and more on my radar. You have the luck of the irish or something. Are you jaked on green beers?
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Old 05-06-2015, 09:44 AM   #255
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Dammit grover... are you evil again this game. I was leaning good on you early but since middle of D1 you have been more and more on my radar. You have the luck of the irish or something. Are you jaked on green beers?

I promise you I am not evil or jaked on green beers.
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Old 05-06-2015, 10:04 AM   #256
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Speculation thread for out of game villagers / people not playing open here:

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Old 05-06-2015, 10:13 AM   #257
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Day 2 voting as of post 257:

Grover 2 - Autumn (240), cheekimonk(244)
mysfit 1 - timmae (231)
Shoveler 1 - The Jackal (224)
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Old 05-06-2015, 10:17 AM   #258
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Old 05-06-2015, 10:50 AM   #259
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Alright, not much to work with here but I'll post my thoughts:

Goods:
Shoveler
Grover - His posts feel like he is playing loose but yet more directed than when he has been evil.

Neutrals:
Timmae - Posted read, feels like he's trying to solve the game.
Jackal - A bit of early strategy posts, and then some back and forth with me, dont really have a feel one way or the other right now
Cheeki - Didn't post much yesterday due to RL issues. Least neutral of my list due to the autumn comments listed below.

Evils:
Mysfit - Revenge votes CR early in the day. Is not willing to remove vote after reveal, and when she does she puts it on me to invoke a tie (prior to realizing the vote mechanics for a tie).
Autumn - Only comment that really struck me was when he tried to defend himself after brit called him and timmae out for giving the pass to cheeki. He said he had used RL issues before to explain his absense as evil, but he didn't think that an evil would use that as a reason to avoid voting another evil. I think they would use that, especially in this type of game.

Vote: Autumn
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Old 05-06-2015, 10:54 AM   #260
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In addition to the "red villager" post, there's this sequence separated by 2 posts from others and then 1 post:

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I think Chief is Jacking us.........my vote stays

Alright, fair enough from what I read.

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Frankly I think a TIE would be good about now

Confident statement re: Chief and appears to have not read the rules (I know I scoured the rules my first few games and still do to not look foolish).

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Unvote Chief
Vote Shoveler

Wait, what? Reaffirms suspicion of Chief then flips 1 minute and 5 posts later? Yeah, a noob so I'm hesitant, but still...

unvote Grover
vote mysfit
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Old 05-06-2015, 11:01 AM   #261
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Grover - His posts feel like he is playing loose but yet more directed than when he has been evil.


Heh. I have purposely been trying to play every game differently to keep people on their toes.
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Old 05-06-2015, 11:02 AM   #262
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Day 2 voting as of post 261:

mysfit 2 - timmae (231), cheekimonk (260)
Shoveler 2 - The Jackal (224), Grover (258)
Autumn 1 - Shoveler (259)
Grover 1 - Autumn (240)
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Old 05-06-2015, 11:30 AM   #263
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So, the wolves make their moves. Well, 2 of them anyway.....Shoveler and cheekimonk



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Old 05-06-2015, 11:32 AM   #264
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Actually let me go with the one getting votes today

unvote cheeki

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Old 05-06-2015, 11:33 AM   #265
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Old 05-06-2015, 11:36 AM   #266
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Well, I feel better about my mysfit vote. More confidence and a lot for D2...especially considering I was MIA most of D1. Also, "2 of them..." How many wolves are we expecting to have w/ 9 players to start?
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Old 05-06-2015, 11:40 AM   #267
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People here wouldn't know it but I am a strong proponent for ties when in doubt. Something I had already stated but some here are rather selective in what they are reading.

Recently played a game where a wolf pulled a late game I am a seer routine. A game CR was in so yes I wasn't completely buying hisreveal.


I read the rules but I missed the tie breaker. Never playef a game that didn't allow for ties.


Pretty thin reasoning IMO to lynch me as a wolf. Well, thin or wolfish. Since I know I am a villager I will go with wolf.
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Old 05-06-2015, 11:41 AM   #268
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Well, I feel better about my mysfit vote. More confidence and a lot for D2...especially considering I was MIA most of D1. Also, "2 of them..." How many wolves are we expecting to have w/ 9 players to start?

There are 2.

"Evil Roles:

2 Werewolves - The werewolves know each other's identity, and may private message/chat without restriction. Each night the wolves choose one target player to kill.

Sorcerer - Each night receives a vision of a target player as 'seer' or 'not seer.' The sorcerer receives a vision on Night 0 of one randomly chosen player that is 'not seer.' Thereafter, the sorcerer chooses which player to view. The sorcerer wins if the wolves win, but counts as a villager for victory purposes. The Sorcerer does not know the wolves and the wolves do not know the Sorcerer."
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Old 05-06-2015, 11:42 AM   #269
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Well, I feel better about my mysfit vote. More confidence and a lot for D2...especially considering I was MIA most of D1. Also, "2 of them..." How many wolves are we expecting to have w/ 9 players to start?

Didn't you read the rules?
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Old 05-06-2015, 11:43 AM   #270
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Twits me about the rules then turns around and asks a question answered in the rules and in discussions


woof woof
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Old 05-06-2015, 12:01 PM   #271
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misfit... I know your thoughts on shoveler and cheeki. Assuming there's more evil out there for whichever reason (either they are not both wolves or there's a sorc in addition) what are your reads on the rest of us? Where do you see smoke?
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Old 05-06-2015, 12:03 PM   #272
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And it was red SHIRT villager


you do know what a red shirt is?
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Old 05-06-2015, 12:07 PM   #273
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misfit... I know your thoughts on shoveler and cheeki. Assuming there's more evil out there for whichever reason (either they are not both wolves or there's a sorc in addition) what are your reads on the rest of us? Where do you see smoke?

I have not cleared anyone, you are all suspicious in my book at this point.


Cheeki
Shoveler
Jackal/Autumn/timmae
Grover

in descending order of twitching my antenna
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Old 05-06-2015, 12:08 PM   #274
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And it was red SHIRT villager


you do know what a red shirt is?

Unless you are talking about a college player sitting out a year of eligibility then I do not. I guess I'm only here to disappoint.
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Old 05-06-2015, 12:09 PM   #275
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Noobs, especially ones with erratic styles of play like mine, are safe plays for wolves in my experience
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Old 05-06-2015, 12:09 PM   #276
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Unless you are talking about a college player sitting out a year of eligibility then I do not. I guess I'm only here to disappoint.

It's a star trek reference.. the red shirt always dies on away missions or what not.
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Old 05-06-2015, 12:10 PM   #277
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Unless you are talking about a college player sitting out a year of eligibility then I do not. I guess I'm only here to disappoint.

You never watched Star Trek???!
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Old 05-06-2015, 12:10 PM   #278
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Noobs, especially ones with erratic styles of play like mine, are safe plays for wolves in my experience

Agreed, I always like to watch who's making potentially easy votes. It's why I hate runaways.
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Old 05-06-2015, 12:10 PM   #279
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I don't think I've heard that red shirt reference equated to VV, but I get it
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Old 05-06-2015, 12:10 PM   #280
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Star Trek security red shirts, the ultimate cannon fodder
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Old 05-06-2015, 12:12 PM   #281
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I started the red shirt ref on another board....given a multiple game tendency to lynch villagers in the first 3 days
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Old 05-06-2015, 12:13 PM   #282
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Got it... Mercy me.. I've never watched star trek.
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Old 05-06-2015, 12:14 PM   #283
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Old 05-06-2015, 12:15 PM   #284
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I started the red shirt ref on another board....given a multiple game tendency to lynch villagers in the first 3 days

I mean, it's mathematically likely in most games, smaller ones like this being perhaps the exception. Especially in bigger games when you've got wolf teams that can manipulate votes or just watch villagers yell at each other over insignificant posts
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Old 05-06-2015, 12:15 PM   #285
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Got it... Mercy me.. I've never watched star trek.

Dont worry about it.. the original series and the spin offs should have been jettisoned into deep space. If not for the recent two movies I would consider that show a complete fail.
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Old 05-06-2015, 12:16 PM   #286
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Dont worry about it.. the original series and the spin offs should have been jettisoned into deep space. If not for the recent two movies I would consider that show a complete fail.

Um. No.
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Old 05-06-2015, 12:16 PM   #287
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To clarify, I think the recent two movies were awesome. But don't be talking trash about Kirk and Picard.
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Old 05-06-2015, 12:16 PM   #288
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Um. No.

Yes! I am entitled to my own opinion.
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Old 05-06-2015, 12:17 PM   #289
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Dont worry about it.. the original series and the spin offs should have been jettisoned into deep space. If not for the recent two movies I would consider that show a complete fail.

I don't even know who you are anymore
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Old 05-06-2015, 12:17 PM   #290
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Yes! I am entitled to my own opinion.

Of course you are, and I reserve the right to argue with it
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Old 05-06-2015, 12:17 PM   #291
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I mean, it's mathematically likely in most games, smaller ones like this being perhaps the exception. Especially in bigger games when you've got wolf teams that can manipulate votes or just watch villagers yell at each other over insignificant posts

The reasoning behind the votes, especially after day 1, was IMO pretty horrific
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Old 05-06-2015, 12:19 PM   #292
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Can we double vote Shoveler for his heresy?
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Old 05-06-2015, 12:19 PM   #293
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The reasoning behind the votes, especially after day 1, was IMO pretty horrific

When there's a bunch of VV trying to make sense of a game it can get tough. I know I've played plenty of piss poor VV games .. but if you want to come in and be another voice of reason in these games I'm all for it
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Old 05-06-2015, 12:24 PM   #294
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So, the wolves make their moves. Well, 2 of them anyway.....Shoveler and cheekimonk



vote Cheekimonk

Thinking you've found both wolves because they're voting you is rather unlikely. Normally I would read this as overly defensive.
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Old 05-06-2015, 12:39 PM   #295
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Thinking you've found both wolves because they're voting you is rather unlikely. Normally I would read this as overly defensive.

They didn't both vote for me


Normally I would read that as overly sloppy with a side of deflection
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Old 05-06-2015, 12:41 PM   #296
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Old 05-06-2015, 12:43 PM   #297
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Certainly seems like there are camps being set up. I need to reread wearing a few different sets of glasses. That may help me with a new set of reads.
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Old 05-06-2015, 12:46 PM   #298
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Getting zero feedback on lynchings makes it
Rather challenging
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Old 05-06-2015, 12:53 PM   #299
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Getting zero feedback on lynchings makes it
Rather challenging

That's the fun in this!
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Certainly seems like there are camps being set up. I need to reread wearing a few different sets of glasses. That may help me with a new set of reads.

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