NFL Week 17

miami_fan · 12-26-2007, 05:04 PM

For those that were concerned

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3169075

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NEW YORK -- The New England Patriots' shot at history Saturday night will be available for every household in the country with a television after months of wrangling.

The game against the New York Giants, in which the Patriots could become the first NFL team to go 16-0 in the regular season, was originally scheduled to be shown only on the NFL Network, which is available in fewer than 40 percent of the nation's homes with TVs.

But the league announced Wednesday that the NFL Network feed will be simulcast on NBC and CBS. It's a major concession by league officials, who repeatedly said they would not show the game anywhere but the NFL Network. The NFL had faced mounting pressure from politicians in recent weeks to make the game available to more viewers.

This will be the first three-network simulcast in NFL history and the first simulcast of any kind of an NFL game since the first Super Bowl in 1967, when CBS and NBC both televised the first meeting of the champions of the newly merged National Football League and American Football League.

"We have taken this extraordinary step because it is in the best interest of our fans," commissioner Roger Goodell said. "What we have seen for the past year is a very strong consumer demand for NFL Network. We appreciate CBS and NBC delivering the NFL Network telecast on Saturday night to the broad audience that deserves to see this potentially historic game. Our commitment to the NFL Network is stronger than ever."

mattlanta · 12-26-2007, 05:08 PM

There's no way the Patriots will lose if the Giants will bench their starters, and from here, it looks as if they will bench their starters. They have nothing to lose while New England, on the other hand, has their run for perfection up in grasps. I'm thinking Belicheck will just keep Brady and his starters in there until half time or whenever he thinks the game is done for.

miami_fan · 12-26-2007, 05:09 PM

Oh yeah with the simulcast, everyone will get to hear the brilliance that is Bryant Gumbel

SirFozzie · 12-26-2007, 05:13 PM

Miami beat me to it.

SirFozzie · 12-26-2007, 05:29 PM

Love these translations by someone even more cynical then I am:

"We have taken this extraordinary step because it is in the best interest of our fans." <--translation "Fuck, we're gonna lose the anti-trust exemption."

"Our commitment to the NFL Network is stronger than ever." <---translation "We only caved here because it was a game Congress cared about. Resistance is futile. Pay up."

Anyone want to guess who this FOFC Cynical bastard is?

Draft Dodger · 12-26-2007, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by miami_fan

Oh yeah with the simulcast, everyone will get to hear the brilliance that is Bryant Gumbel

yeah, good news bad new for me. On one hand, I get a break from the idiotic ramblings of Phil Simms. On the other hand, it means I have to listen to Gumbel. When you combine Gumbel's repetitiveness with the fact that he's extremely slow to react to the play, it almost sounds like you are listening to a broadcast from a video game.

And it's....[player name]...over the middle...a gain of...[yardage]...on the play...that will bring up...[down]...down for the...[team].

wade moore · 12-26-2007, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Draft Dodger

yeah, good news bad new for me. On one hand, I get a break from the idiotic ramblings of Phil Simms. On the other hand, it means I have to listen to Gumbel. When you combine Gumbel's repetitiveness with the fact that he's extremely slow to react to the play, it almost sounds like you are listening to a broadcast from a video game.

And it's....[wrong player name]...over the middle...a gain of...[ too few yardage]...on the play...that will bring up...[wrong down down]...down for the...[opposing team].

Fixed.

henry296 · 12-26-2007, 06:00 PM

My favorite Gumbelism, is the play that gains 5 more yards than is needed for the first down and he says, so and so apears to have enough for the first down.

Raiders Army · 12-26-2007, 08:13 PM

I was hoping that CBS and NBC would use their own crews for the broadcast. Alas.

Greyroofoo · 12-26-2007, 08:24 PM

John Kerry accomplished something!

Logan · 12-26-2007, 09:23 PM

If Al Gore can hang his hat on inventing the Internet, John Kerry can take credit for this.

stevew · 12-26-2007, 10:22 PM

I wonder if they are at going to give CBS and NBC the HD feed, however.

Mustang · 12-26-2007, 11:26 PM

Yippee... the entire nation can now see the Patriots go 16-0 against the Giants 2nd string.

rkmsuf · 12-27-2007, 08:57 AM

Ironically, Plaxico Buress practiced yesterday for only like the 3rd time this season.

Must be some kind of do the opposite strategy.

thetrilogy · 12-27-2007, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Mustang

Yippee... the entire nation can now see the Patriots go 16-0 against the Giants 2nd string.

There isn't an instrument yet to be made that would measure my total agreement with this comment.

The Patriots will play all of their starters to the death- to keep from losing a half-assed played game that only the Patriots care about.

Synovia · 12-27-2007, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by thetrilogy

The Patriots will play all of their starters to the death- to keep from losing a half-assed played game that only the Patriots care about.

The patriots will do exactly what they did against the other 10 teams or so they played that they were vastly better than: Go up 30 points and then pull the starters at the end of the 3rd quarter.

The only think I think the Giants sitting starters will do is change when the Patriots pull their starters from 10 minutes left in the game to 15 minutes left.

Raiders Army · 12-29-2007, 08:14 PM

Honest to god, I think I enjoy the radio announcer on Madden NFL better than Gumbel.

Thanks to him, I did not know that someone was chasing a reception record this year.

Raiders Army · 12-29-2007, 08:15 PM

Ah he just got it right with the guy in his ear giving him the words.

st.cronin · 12-29-2007, 08:16 PM

I think Randy Moss has the face of a guy with a tortured soul.

Raiders Army · 12-29-2007, 08:17 PM

Plax with a good reception.

Raiders Army · 12-29-2007, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

I think Randy Moss has the face of a guy with a tortured soul.

o'course. He's not a Raider any more.

Raiders Army · 12-29-2007, 08:19 PM

"If the call is upheld, we'll come back." LOL. So if it's overturned, we won't have to hear you?

jeff061 · 12-29-2007, 08:25 PM

After apparently 4 minutes, the Giants score a TD.

Celeval · 12-29-2007, 08:26 PM

Giants came to play. Brandon Jacobs is running hard despite no holes, and that was a very nice touchdown.

Raiders Army · 12-29-2007, 08:30 PM

Damn, he threaded a needle there to Welker.

Rizon · 12-29-2007, 08:41 PM

Wow, you guys were right about Gumbel.

st.cronin · 12-29-2007, 08:42 PM

That NFL network commercial, the one bashing cable companies, makes me want to turn this game off. Fuck the NFL network.

sabotai · 12-29-2007, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Rizon

Wow, you guys were right about Gumbel.

No kidding. I'd rather listen to Madden go on and on about nothing than listen to Gumbel.

Abe Sargent · 12-29-2007, 08:47 PM

Yeah, I hate the NFL for the games they pull with their network, but that's free market. They have a right to withhold their product unless certain demands are met, that's the way it goes. I think the government went over the line in its response this week. Now I don;t like the NFL network or the cable companies and their cronies in Washington.

-Abe

EDIT: It was not mean that way, but the first line is a double entendre and I mean it in both ways.

Rizon · 12-29-2007, 08:51 PM

Haha, looks like it's Midnight for NE.

Atocep · 12-29-2007, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Anxiety

Yeah, I hate the NFL for the games they pull with their network, but that's free market. They have a right to withhold their product unless certain demands are met, that's the way it goes. I think the government went over the line in its response this week. Now I don;t like the NFL network or the cable companies and their cronies in Washington.

-Abe

EDIT: It was not mean that way, but the first line is a double entendre and I mean it in both ways.

The NFL's fault here is that they have an anti-trust exemption so that they can negotiate a national TV contract because it fits the best interest in the public. Putting games on their own channel and trying to leverage it as a way to make money goes against the reason they were given the exemption and it should be taken away from them for using the NFL network the way they are.

Cable companies are just as at fault, but this this isn't simply a matter of free market.

st.cronin · 12-29-2007, 08:54 PM

Isn't industry standard having a down/distance graphic?

SirFozzie · 12-29-2007, 08:56 PM

Double Tied Record

SirFozzie · 12-29-2007, 08:57 PM

and before any of the "He pushed off for it" comes out, watch that last replay.. both of them were handfighting/pushing

stevew · 12-29-2007, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

That NFL network commercial, the one bashing cable companies, makes me want to turn this game off. Fuck the NFL network.

I thought it was funny. Then again, I have the NFL Network. I'm more pissed that our youngstown affiliate that I have to get w/ my satellite package is a Browns network.

Celeval · 12-29-2007, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Anxiety

They have a right to withhold their product unless certain demands are met, that's the way it goes. I think the government went over the line in its response this week.

I don't necessarily know that it was over the line - the antitrust exemption that the NFL was specifically written to allow the NFL to negotiate their tv deals as a league rather than as individual teams (which had been ruled to violate antitrust). If the argument is that they're taking advantage of it now, then I think it's pretty reasonable that that is what is under discussion.

st.cronin · 12-29-2007, 08:59 PM

I don't care about the NFL network until they start propagandizing about how the cable companies are blah blah blah. Don't insult my intelligence.

Crapshoot · 12-29-2007, 08:59 PM

Well, this could be a fun game.

Glengoyne · 12-29-2007, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

Isn't industry standard having a down/distance graphic?

I assumed that anyone who would make Gumbel and Collinsworth a broadcast team had something other than standards on their mind.

Celeval · 12-29-2007, 09:00 PM

Darn good game so far. I particularly like the ref explaining the flag to Moss with his own dance.

SirFozzie · 12-29-2007, 09:03 PM

well, the Giants came back big. Lets see what happens here.

Booj · 12-29-2007, 09:17 PM

Am I the only one that feels bad for Cris Collinsworth having to waste away next to the worst play by play man in the NFL?

SirFozzie · 12-29-2007, 09:21 PM

I like the Pats offense so far. Even if the Giants continue to score, at this rate we'll out shoot em

Atocep · 12-29-2007, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Booj

Am I the only one that feels bad for Cris Collinsworth having to waste away next to the worst play by play man in the NFL?

Collinsworth probably loves it. Being paired next to Gumble lets him talk more and he actually sounds like he knows football.

Glengoyne · 12-29-2007, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Booj

Am I the only one that feels bad for Cris Collinsworth having to waste away next to the worst play by play man in the NFL?

I can't believe Gumble just played the "I said hand, but I meant head" card. Even when Pat Summerall was so blind that he couldn't distinguish which team a player was on, he knew to just let those mis-statements lie as if they'd never been said.

Eaglesfan27 · 12-29-2007, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Crapshoot

Well, this could be a fun game.

It's been a very good game so far - much more competitive than I expected.

Jas_lov · 12-29-2007, 09:40 PM

Touchdown Giants!!! This is turning out to be a fantastic game!

Celeval · 12-29-2007, 09:40 PM

Boss is looking very good.

Cassel warming up?!

stevew · 12-29-2007, 09:41 PM

Killdrive is calling a pretty good game for the Giants. I'm pretty shocked about it, actually.

And for the love of god, can Plex catch a jumpball vs a 5'10" patriots CB one time? Just for me? Just for old times sake?

stevew · 12-29-2007, 09:42 PM

That Boss guy has looked pretty good the last couple weeks. I dunno why he was like a 5th rounder, must have hands of stone or something. He at least looks like what I'd want an NFL TE to look like.

12-26-2007, 05:09 PM	#3
miami_fan Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Land O Lakes FL	Oh yeah with the simulcast, everyone will get to hear the brilliance that is Bryant Gumbel __________________ "The blind soldier fought for me in this war. The least I can do now is fight for him. I have eyes. He hasn’t. I have a voice on the radio, he hasn’t. I was born a white man. And until a colored man is a full citizen, like me, I haven’t the leisure to enjoy the freedom that colored man risked his life to maintain for me. I don’t own what I have until he owns an equal share of it. Until somebody beats me and blinds me, I am in his debt."- Orson Welles August 11, 1946

12-26-2007, 05:13 PM	#4
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	Miami beat me to it. __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

12-26-2007, 05:29 PM	#5
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	Love these translations by someone even more cynical then I am: "We have taken this extraordinary step because it is in the best interest of our fans." <--translation "Fuck, we're gonna lose the anti-trust exemption." "Our commitment to the NFL Network is stronger than ever." <---translation "We only caved here because it was a game Congress cared about. Resistance is futile. Pay up." Anyone want to guess who this FOFC Cynical bastard is? __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

12-26-2007, 06:00 PM	#8
henry296 College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Pittsburgh, PA	My favorite Gumbelism, is the play that gains 5 more yards than is needed for the first down and he says, so and so apears to have enough for the first down. __________________ "It's a great day for hockey" - "Badger" Bob Johnson

12-26-2007, 11:26 PM	#13
Mustang Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Wisconsin	Yippee... the entire nation can now see the Patriots go 16-0 against the Giants 2nd string. __________________ You, you will regret what you have done this day. I will make you regret ever being born. Your going to wish you never left your mothers womb, where it was warm and safe... and wet. i am going to show you pain you never knew existed, you are going to see a whole new spectrum of pain, like a Rainboooow. But! This rainbow is not just like any other rainbow, its...

12-26-2007, 05:08 PM	#2
mattlanta Mascot Join Date: Dec 2007	There's no way the Patriots will lose if the Giants will bench their starters, and from here, it looks as if they will bench their starters. They have nothing to lose while New England, on the other hand, has their run for perfection up in grasps. I'm thinking Belicheck will just keep Brady and his starters in there until half time or whenever he thinks the game is done for.

12-26-2007, 08:13 PM	#9
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	I was hoping that CBS and NBC would use their own crews for the broadcast. Alas.

12-26-2007, 08:24 PM	#10
Greyroofoo Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Alabama	John Kerry accomplished something!

12-26-2007, 09:23 PM	#11
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	If Al Gore can hang his hat on inventing the Internet, John Kerry can take credit for this.

12-26-2007, 10:22 PM	#12
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	I wonder if they are at going to give CBS and NBC the HD feed, however.

12-27-2007, 08:57 AM	#14
rkmsuf Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2001	Ironically, Plaxico Buress practiced yesterday for only like the 3rd time this season. Must be some kind of do the opposite strategy. __________________ "Don't you have homes?" -- Judge Smales

12-29-2007, 08:14 PM	#17
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	Honest to god, I think I enjoy the radio announcer on Madden NFL better than Gumbel. Thanks to him, I did not know that someone was chasing a reception record this year.

12-29-2007, 08:15 PM	#18
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	Ah he just got it right with the guy in his ear giving him the words.

12-29-2007, 08:16 PM	#19
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	I think Randy Moss has the face of a guy with a tortured soul. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

12-29-2007, 08:17 PM	#20
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	Plax with a good reception.

12-29-2007, 08:19 PM	#22
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	"If the call is upheld, we'll come back." LOL. So if it's overturned, we won't have to hear you?

12-29-2007, 08:25 PM	#23
jeff061 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: MA	After apparently 4 minutes, the Giants score a TD. __________________

12-29-2007, 08:26 PM	#24
Celeval Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Cary, NC, USA	Giants came to play. Brandon Jacobs is running hard despite no holes, and that was a very nice touchdown.

12-29-2007, 08:30 PM	#25
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	Damn, he threaded a needle there to Welker. Last edited by Raiders Army : 12-29-2007 at 08:32 PM.

12-29-2007, 08:42 PM	#27
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	That NFL network commercial, the one bashing cable companies, makes me want to turn this game off. Fuck the NFL network. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

12-29-2007, 08:47 PM	#29
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	Yeah, I hate the NFL for the games they pull with their network, but that's free market. They have a right to withhold their product unless certain demands are met, that's the way it goes. I think the government went over the line in its response this week. Now I don;t like the NFL network or the cable companies and their cronies in Washington. -Abe EDIT: It was not mean that way, but the first line is a double entendre and I mean it in both ways. __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent Last edited by Abe Sargent : 12-29-2007 at 08:48 PM.

12-29-2007, 08:54 PM	#32
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	Isn't industry standard having a down/distance graphic? __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

12-29-2007, 08:56 PM	#33
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	Double Tied Record __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

12-29-2007, 08:57 PM	#34
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	and before any of the "He pushed off for it" comes out, watch that last replay.. both of them were handfighting/pushing __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

12-29-2007, 08:59 PM	#37
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	I don't care about the NFL network until they start propagandizing about how the cable companies are blah blah blah. Don't insult my intelligence. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

12-29-2007, 08:59 PM	#38
Crapshoot Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2003	Well, this could be a fun game.

12-29-2007, 09:00 PM	#40
Celeval Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Cary, NC, USA	Darn good game so far. I particularly like the ref explaining the flag to Moss with his own dance.

12-29-2007, 09:03 PM	#41
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	well, the Giants came back big. Lets see what happens here. __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

12-29-2007, 09:17 PM	#42
Booj High School JV Join Date: Feb 2003	Am I the only one that feels bad for Cris Collinsworth having to waste away next to the worst play by play man in the NFL?

12-29-2007, 09:21 PM	#43
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	I like the Pats offense so far. Even if the Giants continue to score, at this rate we'll out shoot em __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

12-29-2007, 09:40 PM	#47
Jas_lov College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000	Touchdown Giants!!! This is turning out to be a fantastic game!

12-29-2007, 09:41 PM	#49
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Killdrive is calling a pretty good game for the Giants. I'm pretty shocked about it, actually. And for the love of god, can Plex catch a jumpball vs a 5'10" patriots CB one time? Just for me? Just for old times sake? Last edited by stevew : 12-29-2007 at 09:41 PM.

12-29-2007, 09:42 PM	#50
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	That Boss guy has looked pretty good the last couple weeks. I dunno why he was like a 5th rounder, must have hands of stone or something. He at least looks like what I'd want an NFL TE to look like.

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