The FOFC Keeper League 2013

[JAG]

More info coming soon

[JAG]

Current Rosters

Note I am only including potential keepers and keeper free agents, not defenses, kickers, etc...

Houston Hippopotami - cmgdodgers
Drew Brees QB (3)
Knowshon Moreno RB
Vick Ballard RB
Mike Wallace WR
Miles Austin WR
Brandon Marshall WR
Russell Wilson QB
LeSean McCoy RB (3)
Bryce Brown RB
Beanie Wells RB
Brandon Lloyd WR
Sidney Rice WR

The FOFC All-Stars - samifan24
Matt Ryan QB
C. J. Spiller RB
Darren McFadden RB (3)
Roddy White WR (4)
Randall Cobb WR
Dennis Pitta TE
Joe Flacco QB
DeMarco Murray RB
Josh Gordon WR
Hakeem Nicks WR
Vernon Davis TE

Roadill Cafe - Danny
Josh Freeman QB
Tony Romo QB (1)
Arian Foster RB (3)
Stevan Ridley RB
Justin Blackmon WR
Denarius Moore WR
Aaron Hernandez TE (included for fun)
Philip Rivers QB
Shonn Greene RB
Larry Fitzgerald WR
Kenny Britt WR
Rob Gronkowski TE

Mollys Murphys - MollyMurphy
Matthew Stafford QB (1)
Matt Schaub QB
Michael Turner RB
Adrian Peterson RB
Julio Jones WR
Marques Colston WR
Andre Johnson WR
Carson Palmer QB
Danny Woodhead RB
Robert Turbin RB
Kevin Smith RB
Mario Manningham WR

Lathum's Brew Crew - Lathum
Aaron Rodgers QB (1)
Steven Jackson RB (1)
Darren Sproles RB
Steve Smith WR (Carolina)
Lance Moore WR
Demaryius Thomas WR
Felix Jones RB
Anquan Boldin WR
Jermichael Finley TE

Gridiron Warriors - PackerFanatic
Andrew Luck QB (1)
Eli Manning QB (1)
Chris Johnson RB (1)
Fred Jackson RB
James Jones WR
Stevie Johnson WR
Greg Jennings WR
Rashad Jennings RB
Dwayne Bowe WR
Darrius Heyward-Bey WR
Danny Amendola WR
Antonio Gates TE

Touchdown Mafia - spleen1015
Peyton Manning QB
Marshawn Lynch RB (1)
T. Y. Hilton WR (1)
Eric Decker WR
Reggie Wayne WR
Victor Cruz WR
Greg Olsen TE
Ryan Fitzpatrick QB
Joique Bell RB
Pierre Thomas RB
LaRod Stephens-Howling RB
Maurice Jones-Drew RB (3)
Alex Green RB

Callous Dowboys - JAG
Robert Griffin QB
Trent Richardson RB
Doug Martin RB
Calvin Johnson WR (3)
Dez Bryant WR
Sam Bradford QB
Mikel Leshoure RB
Ryan Mathews RB
Danario Alexander WR

Klein Bottles - ntndeacon
Tom Brady QB (3)
Matt Forte RB
Frank Gore RB
Wes Welker WR
Torrey Smith WR
Jimmy Graham TE
Matt Cassel QB
DeAngelo Williams RB
Kendall Hunter RB
Nate Washington WR
Robert Meachem WR

Sal's Transgenders - saldana
Cam Newton QB
BenJarvus Green-Ellis RB
Vincent Jackson WR (3)
Michael Crabtree WR
Golden Tate WR
Jason Witten TE
Jay Cutler QB
Ryan Tannehill QB
Ahmad Bradshaw RB
Jordy Nelson WR
Randy Moss WR

Hammersmith Hooligans (formerly Blue Feltvet) - Chief Rum
Alfred Morris RB
Jamaal Charles RB (1)
Percy Harvin WR (1)
Brian Hartline WR
Malcom Floyd WR
Colin Kaepernick QB
Jonathan Stewart RB
LeGarrette Blount RB
Andre Roberts WR
Antonio Brown WR
Kyle Rudolph TE

Bold Strategy Cotton - Julio Riddols
Andy Dalton QB
Reggie Bush RB
Ray Rice RB
A. J. Green WR (1)
Cecil Shorts WR
Pierre Garcon WR
Tony Gonzalez TE
Ben Roethlisberger QB (3)
David Wilson RB
Mike Williams WR
Jeremy Maclin WR (4)
Heath Miller TE

There are 4 designations for players listed above:

(1) - This player was acquired in the offseason and may be kept for this season and two others. They must be a keeper for this season (either rookie, if possible or desired, or a position).
No number listed - This player may be kept for this season and the following season if selected as a keeper.
(3) - This player can only be kept for this season if selected as a keeper.
(4) - This player can not be kept or traded. They will be a free agent when the draft begins.

Keeper designations at the end of the 2013 season if players remain on their current teams:

Houston Hippopotami - cmgdodgers
QB Drew Brees (4)
RB LeSean McCoy (4)
WR Brandon Marshall (3)
Rookie - RB Vick Ballard (3)

The FOFC All-Stars - samifan24
QB Matt Ryan (3)
RB CJ Spiller (3)
WR Randall Cobb (3)
Rookie - WR Josh Gordon (3)

Roadill Cafe - Danny
QB Tony Romo
RB Arian Foster (4)
WR Larry Fitzgerald (3)
Rookie - WR Justin Blackmon (3)

Mollys Murphys - MollyMurphy
QB Matthew Stafford
RB Adrian Peterson (3)
WR Julio Jones (3)
Rookie - RB Robert Turbin (3)

Lathum's Brew Crew - Lathum
QB Aaron Rodgers
RB Steven Jackson
WR Demaryius Thomas (3)
Rookie - K Justin Tucker (K-can't be kept again)

Touchdown Mafia - spleen1015
QB Peyton Manning (3)
RB Marshawn Lynch
WR Victor Cruz (3)
Rookie - WR T.Y. Hilton

Gridiron Warriors - PackerFanatic
QB Eli Manning
RB Chris Johnson
WR James Jones (3)
Rookie - QB Andrew Luck

Callous Dowboys - JAG
QB Robert Griffin III (3)
RB Doug Martin (3)
WR Calvin Johnson (4)
Rookie - RB Trent Richardson (3)

Klein Bottles - ntndeacon
QB Tom Brady (4)
RB Matt Forte (3)
TE Jimmy Graham (3)

Hammersmith Hooligans - Chief Rum
QB Colin Kapernick (3)
RB Jamaal Charles
WR/TE Rob Gronkowski
Rookie - RB Alfred Morris (3)

saldana's Transgenders - saldana
QB Cam Newton (3)
RB Green-Ellis (3)
WR Jordy Nelson (3)
Rookie - QB Ryan Tannehill (3)

Bold Strategy Cotton - Julio Riddols
QB Andy Dalton (3)
RB Ray Rice (3)
WR A.J. Green
Rookie - RB David Wilson (3)

[JAG]

Past League Champions:
2004 - Lathum's Brew Crew
2005 - Vic's Heroes
2006 - Callous Dowboys
2007 - Callous Dowboys
2008 - Shaka's Big Shooters
2009 - Houston Hippopotami
2010 – The FOFC All-Stars
2011 – Houston Hippopotami
2012 – Callous Dowboys

[JAG]

FOFC Keeper League Rules

Playoffs:

1. The top three seeds from each division are selected for the playoffs. The top team in each conference gets a bye. Week 14 is the wildcard week where the 2nd and 3rd place finishers in each division play each other. The two teams that lose the wildcard games receive the 7th and 8th picks in the first round of the following year's draft (and all subsequent snake draft picks). The order of these two teams is determined by coin flip (random).

2. Week 15, the first and second seeded teams play the wildcard winners. The winners move on to the Championship round. The losers play the following week in the Third Place game.

3. Week 16, the final two teams play for the Championship and the losers from the week before play in the Third Place game. The team that wins the Championship receives the 12th pick in the first round of the following year's draft and the team that loses receives the 11th pick. The team that wins the Third Place receives the 9th pick in the first round, the loser of that game receives the 10th pick in the first round.

Loser's bracket:

1. Starting week 14, the teams that do not qualify for the playoffs are in a bracket of their own with the team that wins gaining the first overall pick in the following year's draft. Week 14, the 7th and 8th place teams receive a bye with the 9th through 12th teams playing each other. The winners advance. The two teams that lose the wildcard games receive the 5th and 6th picks in the first round of the following year's draft (and all subsequent snake draft picks). The order of these two teams is determined by coin flip (random).

2. Week 15, the 7th and 8th place teams play the 9th-12th place teams that won the week before. The winners advance to the Loser Bowl (ironically), the losers advance to the 3rd Overall Pick bowl.

3. Week 16 are the remaining two games. The team that wins the Loser Bowl receives the first overall pick in next year's draft with the loser receiving the second overall pick. The winner of the 3rd Overall Pick bowl gains the third overall pick and the loser receives the 4th overall pick.


Trading Rules

All trades

All trades are subject to 24 hour review. If five owners veto a trade during that time period, the trade is nullified.

In-Season Trades

Players and/or draft picks for the following season's draft may be traded between teams up until the trade deadline. The trade deadline was previously specified by the rules as the Saturday after Thanksgiving, but is currently listed as Week 10 (11/6-11/12) and it is unlikely we have used the 'Saturday after Thanksgiving' rule in a number of seasons.

Offseason trades

1. All players and/or draft picks for the upcoming draft may be traded between teams as soon as the Championship game has been completed and until keepers are announced for the next season. The keeper announcement signifies the start of a new season.. Any players received in a trade become keepers for the acquiring team.

2. If a player is unkeepable (they have been on a team for three seasons as outlined in the Keeper section of the Rules), that player may not be traded in the offseason.

Keeper Rules:

1. You may keep up to 1 QB, 1 RB, 1 WR/TE, and 1 rookie. If you do not keep a player at one or more of these positions, you will be awarded an extra draft pick at the end of the draft to allow you to fill out your roster. Note that a rookie keeper year counts the same as a regular keeper year towards the three season limit outlined in point 2. below.

2. No player may be on your team for more than 3 consecutive seasons without being exposed to the draft. Being exposed to the draft resets this eligibility (e.g. if a player is drafted two years in a row, they could potentially be on the same team four total consecutive years). The following situations outlines the various keeper situations:

a. A player is acquired via the draft: You use the player that season and can keep them up to two additional times for a total of three seasons.
b. A player is acquired by trade after keepers are declared (in-season): You use the player that season and can keep them up to two additional times for a total of 2.5-3 seasons.
c. A player is acquired by trade before keepers are declared (off-season): You can keep the player three total times to use them for a total of three seasons.
d. A player is picked up off waivers / free agency: You can use the player for that season and keep them two addition seasons for a total of 2-3 seasons.

3. At the end of the third season on a player's team, a keeper is a free agent and the player does not have off-season rights to trade them or keep them again.

4. If a new owner takes over a team, they receive one final season of eligibility for any otherwise expiring keepers.


Starting lineup requirements:

1 QB
1 RB
2 WR
1 RB / WR
1 WR / TE
1 K
1 D/ST

6 bench slots


Tiebreakers:

Individual Game Tiebreakers

1. Higher bench points total
2. Most total starter Combined TDs
3. Highest individual starter score

Break Regular Season Ties No

Power & Playoff Rank Tiebreakers
1. Best head-to-head record
2. Best division record (same division only)
3. Most average points/game
4. Hardest schedule (record)
5. Hardest schedule (points)


Transaction Rules

Add/Drop Deadline None
Trading Deadline Week 10 Tue 11/6-Mon 11/12
Trade Review Period 24 Hours
Enforce Roster Minimums Yes
Prevent Cuts After Game Start Yes
Who is Placed on Waivers Dropped players AND all free agents after game start (recommended)
How Are Claims Resolved Waiver Priority
Time on Waivers After Drop 24 Hours
Lock Recently Added Yes
Process Game-Start Waivers On Wednesday
Reset Order Weekly Yes
Transaction Limits Unlimited


Scoring rules:

Passing

1 point for every 20 Passing Yards ALL
9 extra points when total Passing Yards is greater than or equal to 500 ALL
3 extra points when total Passing Yards is between 300 and 399 (inclusive)
6 extra points when total Passing Yards is between 400 and 499 (inclusive)
3 points for every 2 Pt Conversion Passing ALL
6 points for every Passing TD ALL
3 extra points for every Passing TD of 50 or more yards ALL
-1 point for every Interception ALL
-1 point for every 2 Times Sacked (-0.5 per) ALL

Rushing

1 point for every 10 Rushing Yards (0.1 per) ALL
15 extra points when total Rushing Yards is greater than or equal to 300 ALL
3 extra points when total Rushing Yards is between 100 and 149 (inclusive) ALL
6 extra points when total Rushing Yards is between 150 and 199 (inclusive) ALL
9 extra points when total Rushing Yards is between 200 and 249 (inclusive) ALL
12 extra points when total Rushing Yards is between 250 and 299 (inclusive) ALL
3 points for every 2 Pt Conversion Rushing ALL
6 points for every Rushing TD ALL
3 extra points for every Rushing TD of 50 or more yards ALL

Receiving

1 point for every 10 Receiving Yards (0.1 per) ALL
15 extra points when total Receiving Yards is greater than or equal to 300 ALL
3 extra points when total Receiving Yards is between 100 and 149 (inclusive) ALL
6 extra points when total Receiving Yards is between 150 and 199 (inclusive) ALL
9 extra points when total Receiving Yards is between 200 and 249 (inclusive) ALL
12 extra points when total Receiving Yards is between 250 and 299 (inclusive) ALL
3 points for every 2 Pt Conversion Receiving ALL
6 points for every Receiving TD ALL
3 extra points for every Receiving TD of 50 or more yards ALL

Misc

-1 point for every Fumble Lost ALL

Kicking

3 points for every Field Goal Made ALL
2 extra points for every Field Goal Made of 55 or more yards ALL
1 extra point for every Field Goal Made between 45 and 54 yards (inclusive) ALL
1 point for every XP ALL
-1 point for every XP Missed ALL

Returning

6 points for every Kick Return TD TM
6 points for every Punt Return TD TM

Defense

2 points for every Interception ALL
1 point for every Sack ALL
2 points for every Fumble Recovered TM
2 points for every Safety ALL
6 points for every Defensive TD ALL
3 extra points for every Defensive TD between 50 and 99 yards (inclusive) ALL
1 point for every XP Blocked ALL
1 point for every FG Blocked ALL
1 point for every Punt Blocked ALL
10 extra points when total Points Allowed is exactly 0 TM
7 extra points when total Offensive Points Allowed (FG, Pass TD, Rush TD) is between 1 and 6 (inclusive) TM
4 extra points when total Offensive Points Allowed (FG, Pass TD, Rush TD) is between 7 and 9 (inclusive) TM
3 extra points when total Offensive Points Allowed (FG, Pass TD, Rush TD) is between 10 and 16 (inclusive) TM

[JAG]

2013 Draft Order

1. Mollys Murphys
2. Sal's Transgenders
3. Lathums Brew Crew
4. Blue Feltvet
5. Cam Paign 2012 (2013?) (won coin flip)
6. Gridiron Warriors (lost coin flip)
7. Roadkill Cafe (win coin flip)
8. Klein Bottles (lost coin flip)
9. The FOFC All-Stars
10. Touchdown Mafia
11. Houston Hippopotami
12. Callous Dowboys

[JAG]

Returning teams (presumed, based on end of 2012 thread posts):

MollyMurphy - Mollys Murphys
saldana - Sal's Transgenders
Lathum - Lathums Brew Crew
Julio Riddols - Bold Strategy Cotton
PackerFanatic - Gridiron Warriors
samifan24 - The FOFC All-Stars
spleen1015 Touchdown Mafia
JAG - Callous Dowboys
Danny - Roadkill Cafe
ntndeacon - Klein Bottles

New teams

cmgdodger (agreed to join via PM)
Chief Rum (agreed to join via PM)

Needs to be replaced:

Grover (absent) - Blue Feltvet
sterlingice (retiring) - Houston Hippopotami

Wait List

claphamsa

[Julio Riddols]

I think this year I will be going with the name Bold Strategy Cotton.

[Danny]

I am returning

[Danny]

Also looking to deal Percy Harvin and / or Stevan Ridley for a QB

[JAG]

First order of business, other than finishing the information at the top of the thread, is replacing the owners that aren't returning. At this point, that would be Grover, who no longer visits here, and sterlingice, who messaged me that he is dropping out. We haven't yet heard from ntn and PF / sami have posted in the other thread, but didn't confirm they're returning yet. In any case, there are two openings to fill and I'll message the first two on the wait list to see if they're interested.

After that, we'll see if there are any rule changes we want to implement for the upcoming season.

[sterlingice]

It's been great to play in this league but I'm having to pull back from some of my online activities this year due to other commitments. I really wanted to win in the finals last year against JAG as I was pretty sure it was going to be my last fantasy game for a while but, as has often been the case, the Dowboys proved to be too strong.

Many thanks to everyone, especially JAG and Lathum and to TLK, who was commish for quite a few years.

SI

[ntndeacon]

Oh I want back in

[cmgdodgers]

Just wanted to check in and say hi and looking forward to being part of the league.

[Lathum]

so I think that fills the league.

JAG, do you have the ability to post the current rosters with keeper years.

Also, anyone want to throw out potential rules changes?

[PackerFanatic]

Despite my shitty 2012 and awful draft position, I will come back and suffer again

[JAG]

I'll work on it this weekend.

[samifan24]

I'm back in.

[Lathum]

Bump.

Will try and get a schedule going today.

Lots of players with 3s by their names. Should make for some good trades.

[PackerFanatic]

As much as I don't want to let him go, I'd be willing to listen to offers for Rodgers. Rather get something than nothing

[JAG]

Because folks seem to be gearing up trading and such ahead of keeper declaration deadlines and we may not have any proposals for change this year, I used random.org to assign teams to the incoming newbies. They are:

cmgdodger --- Houston Hippopotami
Chief Rum --- Blue Feltvet

Feel free to submit team name changes for the above and field / make offers to other teams, making note of our trading rules listed earlier in the thread.

[JAG]

One thing that was discussed last season was a change to playoff format. Currently, the teams that make the playoffs are the top three seeded teams in each division. That can lead to some good teams getting left out when one division is a lot stronger than another. A few possible solutions if people aren't satisfied with that system:

1. Top 6 teams overall (by record) make the playoffs --- In this case, in my opinion there would be no reason to have divisions (which is fine if that's what's preferred) and we can run a single division with everyone. Everyone would then play every other team and the extra two games would be adjusted based on order of finish last season.

2. Top 4-5 teams overall (by record) and top 1-2 teams by total points make the playoffs --- Prevents a team or two from missing the playoffs by having awful luck with match ups though otherwise scoring well for the season. Could do this either keeping divisions or making a single division.

3. Same system as last year (top 3 teams from each division make the playoffs)

4. Two division system, division winners gets bye week Week 14, top 4 teams after that regardless of division make playoffs.

5. Other?

I don't have a strong preference to any system myself.

[JAG]

Also, my team has AJ Green, Matthew Stafford, RG3, and Dez Bryant available for trade.

[PackerFanatic]

Originally Posted by JAG

One thing that was discussed last season was a change to playoff format. Currently, the teams that make the playoffs are the top three seeded teams in each division. That can lead to some good teams getting left out when one division is a lot stronger than another. A few possible solutions if people aren't satisfied with that system:

1. Top 6 teams overall (by record) make the playoffs --- In this case, in my opinion there would be no reason to have divisions (which is fine if that's what's preferred) and we can run a single division with everyone. Everyone would then play every other team and the extra two games would be adjusted based on order of finish last season.

2. Top 4-5 teams overall (by record) and top 1-2 teams by total points make the playoffs --- Prevents a team or two from missing the playoffs by having awful luck with match ups though otherwise scoring well for the season. Could do this either keeping divisions or making a single division.

3. Same system as last year (top 3 teams from each division make the playoffs)

4. Something else?

I don't have a strong preference to any system myself.

I like the divisional format, but IMO, it should be the division winners get in (and get byes) and then the top 4 after that, regardless of division - and no re-seeding. We should play each division opponent twice, then 3 random teams from the opposing division (allows for easier seeding in the divisions, otherwise there could be an uneven amount of division games played amongst division rivals)

[JAG]

I added your preference to the list I posted. Hopefully the other ten won't have 10 other preferences.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by PackerFanatic

I like the divisional format, but IMO, it should be the division winners get in (and get byes) and then the top 4 after that, regardless of division - and no re-seeding. We should play each division opponent twice, then 3 random teams from the opposing division (allows for easier seeding in the divisions, otherwise there could be an uneven amount of division games played amongst division rivals)

I agree with this

[Lathum]

also, I would like to reintroduce TE as its own category.

[Lathum]

JAG

Hakeem Nicks should be on the FOFC All Stars, we made that deal last year in week 10

[Danny]

Originally Posted by Lathum

also, I would like to reintroduce TE as its own category.

I agree with this

[PackerFanatic]

I also agree with adding TE (replace the WR/TE position with that)

[JAG]

Originally Posted by Lathum

JAG

Hakeem Nicks should be on the FOFC All Stars, we made that deal last year in week 10

Thanks, I actually had him on his roster, but not in the keeper year list. I'll fix.

[Julio Riddols]

Dalton, Rice, Garcon and Wilson look like probable keepers for me. WAY better than last season.

[samifan24]

1. Here's another vote to a TE only position.

2. Can someone post the keeper "history" for players? I thought I had mine but now I can't find it. I'm pretty sure I can't keep Roddy White anymore.

[JAG]

Originally Posted by samifan24

2. Can someone post the keeper "history" for players? I thought I had mine but now I can't find it. I'm pretty sure I can't keep Roddy White anymore.

End of the first post has the information. You are correct, White can't be kept or traded and McFadden could only be kept an additional year, otherwise whatever keepers you choose from your other players could be kept 2 more seasons.

[Lathum]

Willing to talk deal for Chris Johnson with someone else who may be losing a RB after the year

[Chief Rum]

Hey everyone!

Just a head's up, I have been super busy the past few weeks and have been asleep at the wheel here since joining. I will check things out tomorrow and respond to any PMs I have received. I look forward to playing!

[Chief Rum]

Tony Romo and Marshawn Lynch are available.

[Lathum]

CR, just curious as to why you wouldn't keep Lynch?

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by Lathum

CR, just curious as to why you wouldn't keep Lynch?

Edited...

I just realized I can keep Morris as my rookie, and also keep Lynch.

Lynch is still available, but the price just went up. Thanks Lathum.

[JAG]

Originally Posted by PackerFanatic

(replace the WR/TE position with that)

FWIW, I would not agree with this. If most people are for adding a TE position, then I think we should add it and turn WR/TE to either a full flex position (RB/WR/TE) or a regular RB or WR spot. I'd be interested to hear others' thoughts though.

[Lathum]

We already play 2 backs so I think adding potential for a third is too much. I would say 3 we and 1 TE.

[Danny]

I prefer 2 rb 2 wr 1 the and 1 wr / te

I think that best represents today's nfl

[saldana]

i vote for 3 WR, 1 TE, 2RB

[JAG]

Originally Posted by Danny

I prefer 2 rb 2 wr 1 the and 1 wr / te

I think that best represents today's nfl

Originally Posted by saldana

i vote for 3 WR, 1 TE, 2RB

Just so I'm fully understanding you, are you both saying eliminate the RB/WR flex position we currently have to mandate 2 starting RBs? I personally like the flex spot and could go for what we currently use + a mandatory TE (which is basically Danny's proposal if you turn one of the RB slots to RB/WR).

[Danny]

Oh you can do a rb / wr.

Also a trade to announce.

Roadkill trades Percy harvin to chief rums team for tony romo

[Danny]

By that I meant I'm fine with having it be rb/ wr

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by Danny

Oh you can do a rb / wr.

Also a trade to announce.

Roadkill trades Percy harvin to chief rums team for tony romo

Confirmed. Nice quick and easy. Thanks, Danny and good luck!

[Danny]

I still have Ridley and gronkowski to
Trade. Only want draft picks

[Danny]

Or possibly a rookie keeper but I'm comfortable with romo, foster and fitzgerald as my 3 keepers

[saldana]

Originally Posted by JAG

Just so I'm fully understanding you, are you both saying eliminate the RB/WR flex position we currently have to mandate 2 starting RBs? I personally like the flex spot and could go for what we currently use + a mandatory TE (which is basically Danny's proposal if you turn one of the RB slots to RB/WR).

I am fine with it being a rb/wr flex, as long as the te is not a flex and is mandatory

[Chief Rum]

I'll take offers for Ty Hilton from those teams without rookie keepers. Just looking for a draft pick.