Back to the Future (Night 12 Deadline: Tuesday 10 PM EST)

[Danny]

unvote jackal
vote brit

[mauchow]

I had nothing else to go off, Font. I made my idea pretty clear, I'd like to live.. like everyone else. SO yeah, I want to make a logical move to see if it works.

[Chief Rum]

I don't have any gut feelings strong enough to act on, so I'm going back to my Day One vote. Since brit is in a tie right now, it makes sense to me to move us away from that, too.

That said, I don't have some overwhelming sense that brit is anymore likely to be a bad guy than the others right now.

[mauchow]

I think font is a good choice.

[KWhit]

Originally Posted by mauchow

I think font is a good choice.

He's definitely near the top of my list tonight.

[KWhit]

But if I vote for him that only puts him at 2. Anyone else have any thoughts on font?

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by KWhit

He's definitely near the top of my list tonight.

(she)

[EagleFan]

As of post 507:

britrock88 5 - Narcizo (429), Zinto (472), Danny (484), Chief Rum (499), Danny (501)
murrayyyyy 3 - The Jackal (418), Autumn (426), britrock88 (439)
The Jackal 1 - fontisian (489)
fontisian 1 - mauchow (448)
Danny 1 - murrayyyyy (450)
mauchow 1 - DaddyTorgo (461)

Yet to vote: KWhit, JAG

[KWhit]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

(she)

Ah. Sorry about that, font.

[fontisian]

Originally Posted by KWhit

Strange vote here. And I kind of disagree with what you're basing your suspicion on. First, Jackal's use of "me" is a strange thing to focus on. And I thought that his point about the lovers' roles makes a lot of sense because of the father-son angle and it's not something I had thought about - mainly because of their relationship in the movie. It sounds like an observation one would make just based on the old time travel paradox of "if you killed your grandfather... (or father)..."

So I won't be following you onto voting Jackal.

It's really the "me" thing that bothers me more than anything else. Semantics like that are something I tend to focus on, and it stuck out.

Originally Posted by mauchow

I had nothing else to go off, Font. I made my idea pretty clear, I'd like to live.. like everyone else. SO yeah, I want to make a logical move to see if it works.

And I made it clear the chance of you living by killing the people voting for you (assuming it even works like that) requires scum help. And oh look, scum helped you.

[fontisian]

Originally Posted by KWhit

Ah. Sorry about that, font.

Don't worry about it.

[The Jackal]

I wasn't leaning strongly towards font, was sort of in my neutral zone but noticed the weird interplay with mau. I think her reasons for voting me are wonky so I would not be opposed to voting her, but I'm a bit biased at the moment

[Autumn]

Originally Posted by KWhit

But if I vote for him that only puts him at 2. Anyone else have any thoughts on font?

I think Mau's annoyed at Font for Font haranguing him with her questions. I'm not sure why Mau's not willing to answer her questions. Seems like one of those pissing matches where each gets locked on the other. What makes you look at her, Kwhit?

[Autumn]

It feels strange that neither Brit nor murray are around making any arguments. It seems like we've been voting for ghosts every night. Does anyone want to live?

[Danny]

unvote brit
vote murray

[EagleFan]

As of post 515:

britrock88 4 - Narcizo (429), Zinto (472), Chief Rum (499), Danny (501)
murrayyyyy 4 - The Jackal (418), Autumn (426), britrock88 (439), Danny (515)
The Jackal 1 - fontisian (489)
fontisian 1 - mauchow (448)
Danny 1 - murrayyyyy (450)
mauchow 1 - DaddyTorgo (461)

Yet to vote: KWhit, JAG

[KWhit]

Originally Posted by Autumn

I think Mau's annoyed at Font for Font haranguing him with her questions. I'm not sure why Mau's not willing to answer her questions. Seems like one of those pissing matches where each gets locked on the other. What makes you look at her, Kwhit?

Well, I just thought her reasons for voting for Jackal are pretty out there. The "me" thing mainly is what's bothering me. It's probably just her looking for something to latch onto in a game with little to go on right now. But it's something for ME to latch onto now about her, I guess.

[KWhit]

Vote Britrock88

[KWhit]

Of Brit and Murrayyyy, I feel like Brit is the more likely wolf. I probably would move to Font if others were willing, but I want to get a vote in.

Suddenly the forum is very slow. Is that just me? Other sites are loading a lot faster.

[EagleFan]

As of post 518:

britrock88 5 - Narcizo (429), Zinto (472), Chief Rum (499), Danny (501), KWhit (518)
murrayyyyy 4 - The Jackal (418), Autumn (426), britrock88 (439), Danny (515)
The Jackal 1 - fontisian (489)
fontisian 1 - mauchow (448)
Danny 1 - murrayyyyy (450)
mauchow 1 - DaddyTorgo (461)

Yet to vote: JAG

[Autumn]

Originally Posted by KWhit

Well, I just thought her reasons for voting for Jackal are pretty out there. The "me" thing mainly is what's bothering me. It's probably just her looking for something to latch onto in a game with little to go on right now. But it's something for ME to latch onto now about her, I guess.

That I can understand ;-) Yeah, I haven't found any smoking guns this game yet that make me feel solid about anyone. I'm trying to go more on posts though like you because with two factions like in my Atlantic City game, it may make it hard to find sketchy votes. Making it hard on Murray and Brit because it feels like they haven't posted much today, though I guess I should go back and look, it was a long day out of the house.

[Autumn]

Originally Posted by murrayyyyy

Another day Danny checked in without a vote. Even if he put up a holder vote I would have felt better.

So a quick look suggests Murray basically showed up, voted Brit early. Switched to Danny and made this comment and then basically disappeared again. He did a similar thing yesterday, hardly posting and then pointing at Danny for not posting. Seems odd--if you're not going to post much why post only about one particularly person who's not posting?

[murrayyyyy]

Originally Posted by JAG

murray, if you come back, take the current vote out of the equation and Danny's absence. Who do you think is a wolf? Same Q to brit, if he shows.

Sorry, had to go pick up something...

Personally I thought it was Brit but I kept my vote on him for two days. Lots of votes for him yesterday and now he is tied with me. Seems unusual for the pack to go back to the same guy but no one is giving anything to go off. I always suspect Autumn and assume he has a role, just not sure which side yet.

[KWhit]

Forum seems nice and speedy now. Don't know what that was.

[Autumn]

Originally Posted by britrock88

Funky-looking D2 votes in bold.

Day 2
#211 07:29 JAG votes GoldenEagle (1)
#229 09:46 Autumn votes KWhit (1)
#234 10:11 Jackal votes GoldenEagle (2)
#251 12:15 murra5y votes Brit (1)
#259 12:47 Narcizo votes Chief (1)
#267 13:29 Britrock votes Schmidty (1)
#273 14:39 Mau votes GoldenEagle (3) -- hit-and-run
#288 15:54 Narcizo unvotes Chief (0) votes Brit (2)
#296 16:08 Autumn unvotes KWhit (0) votes Jackal (1), though Autumn justifies the switch based on Jackal's vote in 234
#304 16:58 Chief votes Schmidty (2)

#313 19:16 Zinto votes Jackal (2)
#314 19:17 GoldenEagle votes Britrock (3)
#326 20:45 saldana votes GoldenEagle (4)
#331 20:54 KWhit votes Britrock (4)
#332 21:06 Font votes GoldenEagle (5)
#334 21:07 mau unvotes GoldenEagle (4) votes Britrock (5)
#338 21:13 Autumn unvotes Jackal (1) votes GoldenEagle (5)
#353 21:46 DaddyTorgo votes GoldenEagle (6)
#360 21:52 mau unvotes Brit (4) votes GoldenEagle (7)

Mau's flips at the end are interesting, too. He explains the vote at 334 by saying he doesn't want to do what Font does. And his flip back to GE comes not long after this:

Britrock also kind of posted and disappeared, but he at least posted this today. I wasn't quite sure what it all meant, but putting some effort into analysis is always worth some points to me.

[KWhit]

Yeah, I'm not sure I agree with his bolded votes being funny-looking. But I couldn't figure out any real purpose behind what he might be doing or who he might be trying to implicate.

[KWhit]

So font... Other than Jackal, is there anyone else that you suspect right now?

[murrayyyyy]

Originally Posted by Autumn

So a quick look suggests Murray basically showed up, voted Brit early. Switched to Danny and made this comment and then basically disappeared again. He did a similar thing yesterday, hardly posting and then pointing at Danny for not posting. Seems odd--if you're not going to post much why post only about one particularly person who's not posting?

I haven't seen much to go off with anyone so here was my logic...

I held my vote on Brit for 2.5 days and was building up a lead in the votes ahead of him. Seems logical to move my vote onto someone who hadn't made a vote in that same time period (2.5 days) and had checked in twice. Everyone said they thought Brit was clean so wouldn't it make sense to put my vote on a non-voter giving him 4 votes? At the time it seemed safer to move my vote on to a non-voter than leaving it on Brit earlier since I've had my vote on him the entire game without moving (prior to the Danny move).

[JAG]

Vote murra5y

[JAG]

I don't like that he went with a popular vote D1 (after Chief and I mentioned brit's vote was 'interesting') and today didn't really make a case for anyone. brit didn't either to be honest, or at least not clearly. I feel better about the murray voters than the brit voters as well.

[Autumn]

Originally Posted by murrayyyyy

I haven't seen much to go off with anyone so here was my logic...

I held my vote on Brit for 2.5 days and was building up a lead in the votes ahead of him. Seems logical to move my vote onto someone who hadn't made a vote in that same time period (2.5 days) and had checked in twice. Everyone said they thought Brit was clean so wouldn't it make sense to put my vote on a non-voter giving him 4 votes? At the time it seemed safer to move my vote on to a non-voter than leaving it on Brit earlier since I've had my vote on him the entire game without moving (prior to the Danny move).

I think I follow your thinking up until the bolded part. I'm not sure what you mean by that.

[fontisian]

Originally Posted by KWhit

So font... Other than Jackal, is there anyone else that you suspect right now?

Mau and Autumn. I don't want to lynch mau now because of the day 1 thing and Autumn isn't as suspicious as either Jackal as mau, hence my vote.

Still, it looks like I should switch onto one of brit or murra5y soon. I'm reading them both as fairly null, though.

[murrayyyyy]

Originally Posted by Autumn

I think I follow your thinking up until the bolded part. I'm not sure what you mean by that.

Let me check my vote totals when I changed but I think I was up 4-2 on Brit (going off memory). By moving my vote to someone who may or may not have voted, my vote + 3 (for them not voting) was better off then leaving my vote on Brit and hoping when I came back he had gained some traction. Danny didn't vote the first two days so it seemed logical to force a higher total then leave and hope when I came back, someone else had voted for Brit (since there were 3 different people who said they thought Brit was in the clear).

[Autumn]

Okay, that makes sense, Murray. However, the fact that you were being very strategic about your vote doesn't really speak one way or the other about you. Stirring up suspicion about someone else to keep from getting lynched isn't necessarily wolfish but it's not exactly a plus.

[murrayyyyy]

Originally Posted by JAG

I don't like that he went with a popular vote D1 (after Chief and I mentioned brit's vote was 'interesting') and today didn't really make a case for anyone. brit didn't either to be honest, or at least not clearly. I feel better about the murray voters than the brit voters as well.

I was the 2nd vote on Brit so I'm not sure how I chased the "popular vote". You do realize that you didn't vote for him that day. You had voted for 3 different people after saying it was interesting to you by the time I put vote # 2 on him I believe.

[EagleFan]

As of post 533:

britrock88 5 - Narcizo (429), Zinto (472), Chief Rum (499), Danny (501), KWhit (518)
murrayyyyy 5 - The Jackal (418), Autumn (426), britrock88 (439), Danny (515), JAG (529)
The Jackal 1 - fontisian (489)
fontisian 1 - mauchow (448)
Danny 1 - murrayyyyy (450)
mauchow 1 - DaddyTorgo (461)

[KWhit]

Originally Posted by fontisian

Mau and Autumn. I don't want to lynch mau now because of the day 1 thing and Autumn isn't as suspicious as either Jackal as mau, hence my vote.

Still, it looks like I should switch onto one of brit or murra5y soon. I'm reading them both as fairly null, though.

Ok. Thanks for answering.

[fontisian]

Unvote
Vote: britrock88

[fontisian]

I don't think I'll vote with my scumsuspects. Yes, I am aware this reasoning is pretty terrible.

[murrayyyyy]

Originally Posted by Autumn

Okay, that makes sense, Murray. However, the fact that you were being very strategic about your vote doesn't really speak one way or the other about you. Stirring up suspicion about someone else to keep from getting lynched isn't necessarily wolfish but it's not exactly a plus.

Oh no, I understand why I'm getting votes. Just showing logically why someone would vote like I have. Why wouldn't one vote defensively if they are the leading vote getter? It's just like Brit's vote on me. Understand it completely. Is he wolfish for voting for me now? Even if he is a wolf, he is following logic just like I was, I know it doesn't give a good read but it almost seems like one of those 2 vanilla in the end situations.

[Autumn]

Murray, I can't imagine yo'ure leaving your vote there.

Font, Mau, DT, want to make a relevant vote?

[murrayyyyy]

unvote Danny
vote Britrock

[Autumn]

too slow

[EagleFan]

As of post 543:

britrock88 7 - Narcizo (429), Zinto (472), Chief Rum (499), Danny (501), KWhit (518), fontisian (538), murrayyyyy (542)
murrayyyyy 5 - The Jackal (418), Autumn (426), britrock88 (439), Danny (515), JAG (529)
fontisian 1 - mauchow (448)
mauchow 1 - DaddyTorgo (461)

[murrayyyyy]

I waited as long as I could to move Autumn. No one gained any traction besides me or Brit.

[KWhit]

Oh, and I hope I don't need to say this....

But let's not wait until the last minute to cast a vote to avoid the tie. I have seen too many times that happen and 2 people change their votes at the last second and we STILL end up with a tie.

I will change in a few minutes if no one else chooses to do so. Last second vote changes literally make me vomit.

[Autumn]

Originally Posted by fontisian

I don't think I'll vote with my scumsuspects. Yes, I am aware this reasoning is pretty terrible.

So is your suspect list!

[JAG]

Originally Posted by murrayyyyy

I was the 2nd vote on Brit so I'm not sure how I chased the "popular vote". You do realize that you didn't vote for him that day. You had voted for 3 different people after saying it was interesting to you by the time I put vote # 2 on him I believe.

Not popular in that a lot of people were voting for him, but it looked like there might be some momentum his way after he picked up a vote and I made my comment. I thought about voting him, but gave him the benefit of the doubt for his explanation. I was down on DT at that point. Frankly I'm still not leaning favorably towards him.

[murrayyyyy]

not being able to type in a vote post is slowing me up (plus watching Rangers game)

[KWhit]

Originally Posted by KWhit

Oh, and I hope I don't need to say this....

But let's not wait until the last minute to cast a vote to avoid the tie. I have seen too many times that happen and 2 people change their votes at the last second and we STILL end up with a tie.

I will change in a few minutes if no one else chooses to do so. Last second vote changes literally make me vomit.

And in the time it took me to write that, 2 people changed their votes. But we're not in a tie at least!