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Wake in 53 a continuation of an MP Dynasty
So this is going to be my attempt to revive an older thread that I was doing over here before I had to leave the NCAA FBCB 53 league over at Sim Nation.
When I first started here I had three teams. USC, Wake and Texas. A decade of in game time later, I have switched a few teams and the league has certainly taken off. We have a few FOF'ers playing and I would encourage anybody that's reading this to come over and check us out. It has the most owners of any NCAA FBCB league that has existed, and we are always looking for more people to come join in on the fun. Current FOFC guys: If I have missed you let me know so that I can add you. Muns- Wake, Iowa, Rice, ASU Dawgfan- Washington, Michigan State, Texas Western, Brown murrayyyyy – Arkansas, Gettysburg , Weber State Bryan Swartz- Georgia Tech, Harvard, Western Michigan, Santa Clara Comey - Notre Dame, Uconn, Penn Mr.Bug- Indiana, Columbia, UCLA MikerG- Temple, Washington State, South Carolina collegesportsfanms- USC, Colorado Homersimpson- Texas A&M, Maryland, Georgia The league has been an interesting one to follow honestly and some trends have clearly come out. I wasn't too sure how the game would react to what Mike was doing with the files format. Being a small universe and then growing as the NCAA historically did with its basketball teams but the game has handled it well, and we all have been on what I think has been a fun ride. Hopefully, as I continue this I will hit on history along with my thoughts on current goings. If anybody has their own thoughts, feel free to chime in. The league has been enjoyable and I hope it continues for a long while. Last edited by muns : 03-01-2017 at 09:38 AM. |
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03-01-2017, 10:33 AM | #2 |
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The league started in 1953 and we are currently going to be finishing up the 1964 season.
PLUG- IF YOU WANT A TEAM NOW IS THE TIME TO JOIN!!! The left side has how real life played out in the title games, and the right side is how our league played it out that year. Code:
As you can see, we really are playing history out a bit differently. Indiana, San Francisco, and Kentucky are powers in our league, but aren't as dominant as they were in real life. Teams like Cincinnati and Ohio State aren't even close to being what they were. Don't get me wrong Seattle, Ohio State, and LaSalle have had some success, but they haven't followed their real life counter parts On the flip side Washington has certainly run away with being the most dominant team in league our league history at the moment, and honestly we more than likely wont ever see a 3-peat ever again. Washington, UNC, NC State, San Francisco, Michigan State, Kansas, Kansas State, and California are all teams that have a shot to win a title every year at the moment and are what I would call the big dogs in our league. We have a number of teams that are right on the cusp of making it to the upper tier of "big dog" schools, but aren't quite there yet. I see these schools making the jump in the near future which will help balance out the league from being top heavy. As the years continue to progress in our league we have a number of human players who have teams on the lower end of the prestige spectrum. I believe these teams will continue to get better, which in turn will raise the middle of the league and make it harder for the top tier teams to get recruits. If and when this occurs it will be interesting to see how the top teams adjust or will they start to fall by the wayside. The next decade in NCAA 53 will shape how the landscape goes in my opinion for the rest of the leagues existence. Last edited by muns : 03-01-2017 at 11:06 AM. |
03-01-2017, 02:38 PM | #3 |
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03-02-2017, 05:32 AM | #5 |
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As everybody can see we are a league that is certainly top heavy at the moment. Teams 1-20 have historically been controlled by a human with WVU being the only team on that list that hasn't been human ran. Honestly that is a pretty darn good feat with who we have in the league. Bradley at 16 would be the other school.
Bradley is really the only team that has played up to their real life counter part right now. WVU is playing well above their real life counter part, and everybody else is pretty much lagging behind. Code:
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03-02-2017, 05:37 AM | #6 |
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As you can see, Indiana leads the league in every category here. Honestly that surprised me. I know Bug has had some frustrations with the game, some of that is honestly the game, and some of that is him, but I didn't think it would IU so far ahead in terms of talent, but its clear.
Purdue, Columbia, Oregon State, Temple and my team Wake are all teams that in my opinion have always out done themselves in terms of either developing talent, or out recruiting their counter parts. With the way they all started Prestige wise in game, I believe they have done extremely well in terms of this list. Code:
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03-02-2017, 05:40 AM | #7 |
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This one doesn't really show anything that is surprising to me.
It pretty much shows the way the league has gone. It's Kirk's world and we all just live in it. His Washington and Michigan State squads do really well, with the rest of us sprinkled on in there Code:
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03-02-2017, 05:46 AM | #8 |
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The records page is awesome for me. Matthew Cordoba was a beast for Harvard, and I love the fact that we have the all time leading scoring in the history of the league being from the ivy league.
Kenny Zimmer who is my guy at Wake had a hell of a career as well, and if it weren't for some injuries and an awful team his first year, might have had a record that stood the sands of time. As of now though ill take that. Justin Penland at Washington was no joke of a guard as well. Kirk also has Jame Scully on the board. Anybody else catching this Kirk themed thing going on? Code:
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03-02-2017, 06:06 AM | #9 |
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Now that we have the history covered, ill get into my teams.
Wake Forest I have had since basically the inception of the league. I had to take 2 game years off due to my capstone in grad school, but picked them back up afterwards. Code:
We have progressively gotten better, but also have had some bad luck in the process which really hurt progress. Kenny Zimmer got hurt right before the NCAA tourney last season and had the miss it. Its hard to replace the National player of the year in the lineup and Mike's Arkansas squad make quick work of us. This year we lost PF- David Olivarez who was a first team ACC PF. While we won our first game without him, we ended up losing by 2 points to Michigan State. When trying to get your team to move up Prestige wise, those types of things just don't help the cause. Code:
While its been slow, and the past 2 post seasons frustrating Wake certainly has hope and it has been fun turning guys that the top teams over look into pretty good players. Recruiting wise we should have a mixed bag for this upcoming year, highlighted by the #6 kid in the nation Arthur Darden. We still cant compete for guys that we want right off the bat, and are used to playing 2nd fiddle, but we have had our fair share of guys who have worked out for us. The other 2 guys in the recruiting class will be more of the same as we continue to rise in the ACC rankings. |
03-02-2017, 06:15 AM | #10 |
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My 2nd team is Iowa.
Iowa historically has always been a player, just don't a top player. I have had them for the past 4 seasons, and this year they took off winning the big 10 title outright, but failed to meet expectations and lost to California by 1 in the sweet 16. Code:
Iowa is my best team, and next year should honestly prob start the year ranked in the top 3. We lose a forward who will will replace easily, and that brings everybody else back. Recruiting has been a mixed bag. I have gotten the guards I have wanted to get, but the post players always have a fatal flaw. The past 2 seasons I have landed 2 posts that don't, so I am hoping we become a more complete team vs. the team that has to hide their bigs as best they can right now. We have one of the top 10 kids in the nation as a sophomore in Paul Bass, and we continue to help support him, I see us having a real shot at a title next year. Code:
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03-02-2017, 06:30 AM | #11 |
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My 3rd team is a straight and total dumpster fire.
Rice historically has done nothing and I have had them for the past 2 years. With the SWC being run by Mike and his Arkansas squad, and with the rise of Texas, and now Texas A&M, I would continue to expect Rice to be a dumpster fire. Recruiting. While it hasn't exactly been full of roses, we have gotten better. When I took over, everybody in the team was basically red in terms of talent in the game. Red is the worst color you can have. Currently, most are now orange, lol the 2nd worst color, but everybody that I have recruited now has a yellow future rating. Yellow would be what I consider average. I have 4 new recruits coming in this year, with a 5th possible. We should get to .500 with those guys eventually, and then hope to raise our prestige to get some real players in here. It will take time, and with Rice that's about all I have. Code:
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03-02-2017, 06:36 AM | #12 |
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Arizona State is my last team and I just picked them up this year.
Historically, they have been up and down, but I wanted to go back to another team out West, and I didn't want to take Oregon State or Oregon. So I took a team that will eventually be in the PAC. Again it should take me some time with them as their team isn't balanced, and I need to adjust how many guys are in each class. I was able to land 1 recruit this year. A 4 star guy and ranked 93rd in this years class. He should be a good start for us as we try to navigate the wild west's recruiting, and the domination that Washington, Cal, and San Francisco have going out there. Should be a fun challenge to go along with my Rice adventure. Code:
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03-02-2017, 06:55 AM | #13 |
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The State of the league
With both Michigan State and Washington out of the running for the title this year, it will only be the 2nd time in the past 7 years that we will have a champ not named Kirk. He has set the bar, and its a tough one for anybody else to try and reach. With San Francisco being one of those teams in the title game, they could provide that much needed rival that the league has lacked for the Huskies, and obviously are on the same coast. With the Big 10 being as tenacious as it is each year I think a new champ has a shot at coming out of there with the conference title in hand. The ACC is improving, The AAU is top heavy, and the WCC is also helping to keep things balanced out west. The league couldn't be in a better position. We are currently the biggest league FBCB wise, and it seems are balanced in a way that will help keep it moving forward. If we could get comey out of his Jack Dawkins Diary the writing would go back to being top notch, because lets be honest, comey is the writer of the bunch and nobody can match what he puts out. I for one am looking forward to the next few years game wise to see what develops and who shoots up. Maryland took a huge leap this year. I wonder if its a team like St. Mary's that will next year. Last edited by muns : 03-02-2017 at 06:56 AM. |
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Last Night's Title game had San Francisco going against NC State and it was a hell of a game. In fact, tt was a 2 point game heading into the final min.
In the end, San Fran pulled it out and takes home their first championship. In the previous 10 seasons San Fran had been to the final 4 six times, never making it to the title game, so last nights win should have been a huge monkey of their backs. I am expecting this win to have some ripple effects in terms of balance in the league. Washington is still a monster, but they have a new team on their level in terms of recruiting now. San Francisco with a title should now be able to compete for the affection of the big time recruits. It's not like they weren't there before this win, but their starting off point with recruiting should be much better than it ever has been. I can forsee some interesting match ups there from the get go this upcoming recruiting season, and it will be fun to watch how both of them jockey for position out West. |
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Recruiting class rankings
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03-03-2017, 09:09 AM | #16 |
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Where the conferences stack in terms of Prestige
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03-04-2017, 12:16 AM | #17 |
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Okay dumb question. I downloaded the season file now how the heck do I load it in the game?
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03-04-2017, 12:40 AM | #18 |
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It has to be in the correct directory(the season folder goes in the /leaguedata subfolder of your FBCB installation).
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Wake Update
So our recruiting class is ranked 15th in the country by the game. As you can see, 7 out of the 8 ACC school have a top 25 class. It used to be debated on who was the better conf, the ACC or the BIG, and its been clear that the BIG has moved ahead of the ACC for the past few years now. I think if the ACC keeps recruiting like this though, that gap will close soon enough. Code:
At 15 I didn't have a stellar class, but the class is functional and we will make due with what we have. Johnny isn't a world beater, and is only a 3 star guy, but he does what I want a post to do. He will eventually not turn the ball over, rebound, and defend. He will be average on the offensive end, but I don't need him to be. At 6-8 he is smaller than I would like, but at 18 strength he will make up for that. He will be exactly what I want him to be by the time he graduates. For a 3 star guy, he will have a better career than some 4 stars ranked above him. Code:
Next up is 4 star recruit Damion Woodman. Damion isn't the typical guard I want, but with Wake, I can't be real choosy or I end up losing out on the typical back up guys the big boys have on their radars. He will be able to shoot, be ok with turning the ball over, but will excel as a defender. Wake historically hasn't played any "D" and I am trying to switch that a bit now. He will fit that mold, and do ok in the future. Code:
The last recruit is #6 Arthur Darden. No way should he be the 6th ranked kid coming out of HS, but that's why he fell to me at Wake. My guess he should be around the 70th ranked guy. Arthur will be a shooter, will turn the ball over more than I would like, but will also be able to defend. Again, you can see the theme here. All 3 guys can defend, as we try to shape the image of guys coming out of wake. Code:
All 3 recruits will redshirt and gain the most points as possible in TC before graduating. We didn't lose any coaches, our budget didn't go up, nor did our facilities ratings. That is starting to get annoying but ill deal. We did gain a couple of prestige points and now sit at 77. That is good for 4th in the conference, behind NC State (100) UNC (97) and Duke (89). We started at 53 so we have come a ways in 11 years. We still aren't where we should be, but we are slowly getting there. Awards wise we did well. We landed the freshman of the year for the 3rd time in the last 4 years in Patrick Dusek. James Gadson beat out Last years national player of the year Kenny Zimmer for the ACC player of the year and first team PG. Well deserved, I cant complain there. Basically the entire 2nd team ACC was Wake's starting 5, and then Kenny Zimmer was also named 2nd team All American, again behind James Gadson. Code:
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IOWA Update
Head coach Bob Tuggs gets some bonus points to spend this year, which is a good thing, but no facilities or recruiting money upgrades. We also lose out on our scout Carl Dutcher who has left us to be the head coach at St. Peter's. So we now need to find a new scout. Recruiting came back down to earth from what we have been able to accomplish the past 4 years recruiting wise. We landed the 27th best class in the nation, which certainly wont get it done in the BIG. Code:
Overall, recruiting was down across the board for the entire BIG. We have 3 top 10 teams but that number is usually higher than that. Only 4 teams in the top 25. Indiana and Illinois both had number come in wayyyyy lower than they are typically used to. Minnesota is a team to keep an eye on here. They have never been much in the BIG and with the addition of murrayyyyy as their coach, they are clearly on the up and up. Having the 33rd best class for them is a coup. Our first recruit is Harland Ray a 5 star SF our of Pennsylvania. Harland did not come in as scouted, and came in a bit worse unfortunately. He wont smash awards, but has a shot to be an all conf small forward his Junior year. He will however be able to play some Defense, and that thankfully did come in as expected. PLAYER DETAILS Code:
Next up is 4 star Center Emmanuel Morrison. Emmanuel was brought in because I need size. At 6-11 and 232 he fits the bill. I hate his hands, but he will be able to rebound and defend which is all that I will be asking him to do here. Sands his hands, he will do exactly what I want him to do as he gets a few Training camps in him. PLAYER DETAILS Code:
As far as awards go. We did ok. Nothing that is worth bragging about. Coach Tuggs won the coach of the year award in the BIG. Paul Bass won the BIG player of the year, and was named first team all American. I guess that is something to brag about now that I think about it. He is only a sophomore and has a legit shot at being the national player of the year 2 times in a row moving forward. Code:
As I have said I think Iowa is my best team, and will have a legit shot at a national title next season. It's bit early to be thinking that though and time will tell us shortly enough, and so will Training camp.... Last edited by muns : 03-04-2017 at 09:37 AM. |
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Rice update
As I have said before, Rice is my dumpster fire, but I have grown to appreciate how bad these guys have been. This recruiting season however, was very good to us. Historically we have always been at the bottom of the SWC (before I took over), but this year we took a huge step in the correct direction. We landed the 70th best class in the nation which puts us 4th in the SWC Code:
All freshman have green potential, and it is my hope that with this, it signals the start of the Rice transformation has begun. We wont be the butt end of the jokes of the SWC in a few years (at least that's the hope) and might be able to actually put a product on the floor that has students and the community coming out to see us, vs just being there to watch Arkansas because they are good. Might like this class the most out of all of my classes, simply because we suck the most. The future just got a bit brighter here though for the Owls |
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One of our guys in the league does his own awards (Oliver) for the OPR awards and this is what he came up with for this season.
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OPR'S All Conference Awards
Conference All-Freshman Teams Athletic Association of Western Universities C Jose Lykins, Washington, 28.5/11.4/6.2/1.6 PF Todd Schmidt, Oregon, 17.4/6.3/3.1/0.8 SF Perry Scott, Oregon, 23.6/9.4/4.1/0.9 SG Tim Jack, UCLA, 27.3/10.0/4.5/2.9 PG Gaylord Mitchell, Washington, 10.0/2.9/0.8/2.2 Atlantic Coast Conference C Eric Hooks, Duke, 31.3/6.4/8.2/1.6 PF Benedict Mitchell, Duke, 16.7/4.7/3.5/0.7 SF Thanh Seibel, North Carolina, 19.7/7.4/2.5/1.6 SG Douglas Philips, Wake Forest, 11.6/3.6/2.1/0.9 PG Henry Woods, Virginia, 21.3/7.4/2.5/1.8 Big Eight Conference C Keenan Lowry, Colorado, 23.0/8.7/7.5/1.4 PF Normand Straw, Oklahoma, 12.4/1.9/3.6/0.6 SF Damon Brill, Nebraska, 26.7/5.1/4.8/2.2 SG Jarred Morgan, Kansas, 28.7/9.1/3.6/3.5 PG Michael Demann, Oklahoma State, 18.3/5.7/1.7/3.8 Big Sky Conference C Colby Reyes, Montana, 14.3/3.3/4.7/1.0 PF Hyman Boatright, Gonzaga, 27.1/5.0/5.0/1.0 SF Raul Jones, Montana, 28.8/14.1/4.6/1.6 SG Dexter McDowell, Montana, 14.4/3.6/2.0/1.0 PG Gary Duffy, Gonzaga, 20.0/6.0/2.2/1.3 Big Ten Conference C Lambert Boutry, Indiana, 13.5/5.2/3.3/0.7 PF Herb Bunce, Michigan State, 9.4/2.6/2.2/0.3 SF Brian Ho, Michigan State, 5.9/2.8/1.2/0.3 SG Carl Manning, Iowa, 18.1/8.5/1.9/1.2 PG Eloy Kilgore, Northwestern, 7.3/2.9/0.8/0.4 Ivy Group C Rudy Walk, Brown, 18.4/3.5/5.5/0.8 PF Gerard David, Pennsylvania, 16.3/4.6/3.6/0.5 SF Darrell Coburn, Princeton, 8.1/2.6/1.0/0.5 SG Vester Bohl, Columbia, 27.3/13.3/2.6/3.2 PG Thomas Black, Harvard, 20.4/7.0/1.9/2.2 Mid-American Conference C Larry Courtney, Toledo, 25.4/6.0/5.5/1.2 PF Ronny Cravens, Toledo, 14.3/3.0/2.0/0.5 SF Demetrius Reed, Ohio, 10.8/2.6/2.0/0.3 SG Pat Terry, Marshall, 13.6/3.1/0.9/1.1 PG Normand Purvis, Marshall, 29.1/10.8/4.8/2.6 Mid-Atlantic Conference C David Steven, Gettysburg, 12.6/1.5/2.7/0.7 PF William Cowley, Gettysburg, 5.6/1.3/1.2/0.2 SF Stuart Yun, Gettysburg, 13.2/4.8/2.2/0.7 SG Don Hardy, Temple, 19.3/5.7/2.5/1.6 PG Charley Weisberg, Saint Joseph's, 14.7/6.3/1.4/1.3 Missouri Valley Conference C Hunter Keyes, Wichita State, 17.4/4.0/3.5/0.6 PF Charles Flowers, Wichita State, 13.9/2.7/2.7/0.8 SF Edward Matteson, Saint Louis, 13.9/6.1/1.7/1.0 SG Kurt Barrett, North Texas State, 13.7/6.8/1.1/1.0 PG Jewel Milliken, Bradley, 14.5/5.5/1.9/1.0 Ohio Valley Conference C Charley Callan, Eastern Kentucky, 11.7/3.4/2.6/0.5 PF Barney Martinez, Austin Peay, 27.8/10.1/6.0/1.5 SF Charles Steven, Tennessee Tech, 7.2/1.8/1.1/0.4 SG Rolf Janes, Tennessee Tech, 15.8/5.8/1.5/1.2 PG Horace Hannigan, Tennessee Tech, 22.0/10.1/2.6/1.5 Southeastern Conference C William Granville, Louisiana State, 26.3/7.6/6.0/1.1 PF Virgil Heaney, Mississippi, 16.3/3.7/4.7/0.9 SF Marshall Garner, Kentucky, 18.3/9.1/4.0/1.4 SG Elias Hansen, Vanderbilt, 16.4/5.2/3.3/1.4 PG Gus Tarbox, Auburn, 15.6/7.6/2.3/1.4 Southern Conference C Jeremy Norton, West Virginia, 10.1/1.8/2.1/0.6 PF Chris Laurence, William & Mary, 11.1/1.7/2.2/0.5 SF Elijah Story, George Washington, 6.2/2.3/1.0/0.5 SG Scottie Schuster, VMI, 24.4/9.1/2.1/1.6 PG Haywood Reynolds, Citadel, 30.7/10.2/2.7/2.7 Southwest Conference C Dick Jones, Texas, 17.6/3.2/4.4/0.8 PF Jefferson Medina, Rice, 11.8/3.0/2.5/0.3 SF Harold Graves, Southern Methodist, 26.0/6.9/6.0/2.0 SG Delbert Ligon, Texas, 16.2/5.2/2.3/2.0 PG Troy Stephens, Texas Christian, 21.7/5.8/1.6/2.2 West Coast Conference C Clemens Gehringer, San Francisco, 26.3/4.5/6.6/0.9 PF Abel Romero, San Francisco, 15.4/5.4/3.3/0.6 SF Ted Stlouis, Pepperdine, 27.1/9.9/3.0/1.4 SG Solomon Ramsey, Pacific, 9.1/2.7/0.7/0.8 PG Luther Sansom, Santa Clara, 12.0/3.1/1.3/0.8 Western Athletic Conference C Michael Bryant, Brigham Young, 13.4/2.7/2.9/0.7 PF Silas Drake, Wyoming, 13.8/1.5/4.2/0.7 SF Andrew Wetzel, Arizona State, 29.3/10.4/6.0/3.2 SG Herman Weiner, Utah, 25.1/10.0/5.3/1.6 PG John Bova, Utah, 14.6/4.2/1.3/2.0 Yankee Conference C Nicholas Huff, Massachusetts, 11.0/2.1/2.5/0.5 PF Mitchell Tang, New Hampshire, 14.3/3.1/2.9/0.6 SF Wesley Brown, Rhode Island, 11.1/3.0/1.9/1.1 SG Rufus Coomer, Connecticut, 5.0/1.9/0.7/0.5 PG Wally Franklin, Maine-Orono, 19.1/6.9/1.9/1.0 Conference Freshman of the Year AAWU – Jose Lykins, C, Washington, 28.5/11.4/6.2/1.6 ACC – Benedict Mitchell, PF, Duke, 16.7/4.7/3.5/0.7 Big Eight – Keenan Lowry, C, Colorado, 23.0/8.7/7.5/1.4 Big Sky – Raul Jones, SF, Montana, 28.8/14.1/4.6/1.6 Big Ten – Carl Manning, SG, Iowa, 18.1/8.5/1.9/1.2 Ivy – Rudy Walk, C, Brown, 18.4/3.5/5.5/0.8 MAC – Normand Purvis, PG, Marshall, 29.1/10.8/4.8/2.6 MidAtl – Don Hardy, SG, Temple, 19.3/5.7/2.5/1.6 MVC – Thomas Roseman, SF, Bradley, 30.7/11.4/3.7/2.5 OVC – Horace Hannigan, PG, Tennessee Tech, 22.0/10.1/2.6/1.5 SEC – Virgil Heaney, PF, Mississippi, 16.3/3.7/4.7/0.9 SOCON – Joshua Richardson, C, Furman, 16.9/4.2/3.1/0.9 SWC – Dick Jones, C, Texas, 17.6/3.2/4.4/0.8 WCC – Clemens Gehringer, C, San Francisco, 26.3/4.5/6.6/0.9 WAC – Herman Weiner, SG, Utah, 25.1/10.0/5.3/1.6 Yankee – Wally Franklin, PG, Maine-Orono, 19.1/6.9/1.9/1.0 All-Conference Teams Athletic Association of Western Universities First Team C SR Brian Penn, Southern California, 29.5/10.6/10.8/1.5 PF SR Basil Suttles, Washington, 25.1/5.4/8.2/1.5 SF JR Stanford Fall, Washington, 20.3/9.4/4.1/2.2 SG SR Justin Penland, Washington, 26.9/15.3/4.5/3.0 PG JR John Lantz, Washington, 28.3/11.2/2.5/7.4 Second Team C FR Jose Lykins, Washington, 28.5/11.4/6.2/1.6 PF SR Allan Smith, California, 30.9/12.8/6.8/2.0 SF SR Lindsay Jack, Washington, 24.8/11.1/3.7/2.1 SG SR Ian Smith, Southern California, 28.7/10.4/5.6/5.0 PG SR Elvis Ohare, California, 29.9/10.1/2.9/3.9 Atlantic Coast Conference First Team C SO Andrew Wiese, Wake Forest, 31.1/7.1/7.9/1.8 PF SR John Giddens, North Carolina, 26.0/11.7/8.1/1.5 SF SR John Ferraro, North Carolina State, 21.1/13.3/3.3/2.4 SG SR Maximilian Wettengel, North Carolina State, 27.8/11.6/2.3/3.1 PG SR Kenny Zimmer, Wake Forest, 32.1/12.5/5.8/9.2 Second Team C JR Lance Eidson, Clemson, 29.3/6.4/7.4/1.2 PF JR David Olivarez, Wake Forest, 27.8/16.9/7.6/1.4 SF SR Ismael Stone, North Carolina State, 21.3/13.6/1.9/2.0 SG JR Jose Seltzer, Maryland, 25.7/9.2/3.1/3.7 PG SR James Gadson, Maryland, 33.7/14.0/5.6/8.6 Big Eight Conference First Team C SR Tony Hester, Nebraska, 30.5/11.1/9.3/1.4 PF JR Rocky Langan, Colorado, 24.7/6.3/6.3/0.8 SF JR Jorge Marlowe, Kansas, 28.7/14.1/6.3/3.2 SG SR Rex Krick, Nebraska, 33.3/22.5/6.4/2.4 PG JR Isaac Ferguson, Colorado, 29.7/13.3/3.0/5.3 Second Team C FR Keenan Lowry, Colorado, 23.0/8.7/7.5/1.4 PF SO Tony Lovelace, Kansas State, 33.2/11.2/10.4/2.8 SF SR Ryan Arnold, Kansas State, 31.8/16.7/5.5/3.3 SG SR Coy Dolan, Kansas State, 30.2/15.3/5.7/3.5 PG JR Andrew Lesser, Kansas, 28.7/7.9/2.8/7.2 Big Sky Conference First Team C SR Joseph Saldivar, Montana, 32.9/8.3/9.2/1.5 PF JR Emmitt Tomblin, Montana, 31.9/6.2/8.0/2.0 SF JR Mark Robinson, Idaho State, 27.3/9.6/5.1/3.0 SG SR Theo Pasquale, Idaho, 33.3/17.8/3.3/3.0 PG SR William Torrez, Idaho State, 26.4/12.8/3.1/3.6 Second Team C SR Emile Davis, Montana State, 30.0/6.2/10.1/1.4 PF SO Kenneth McCarter, Montana State, 26.6/15.5/5.4/1.0 SF SR Joseph Harrison, Montana State, 31.0/11.6/4.1/4.1 SG JR Isaac Hamer, Gonzaga, 27.0/8.5/2.0/1.9 PG SR Matthew Johnson, Montana, 21.9/6.7/4.1/1.6 Big Ten Conference First Team C JR Ollie Monzon, Indiana, 29.8/12.6/9.3/1.5 PF SR Greg Chu, Michigan, 28.7/10.2/9.5/2.0 SF SR Toby Wille, Michigan State, 28.1/15.7/7.7/2.6 SG SR Cristobal Peters, Michigan State, 29.1/18.0/3.8/4.5 PG JR Derek Domingo, Indiana, 31.5/11.2/3.9/8.7 Second Team C JR Kirby Croom, Iowa, 30.3/9.4/6.5/2.0 PF SR Daniel Lai, Indiana, 32.2/10.0/10.8/2.2 SF SO Paul Bass, Iowa, 29.4/17.6/4.8/4.5 SG JR Trenton Boykin, Indiana, 26.9/16.7/5.1/2.6 PG SR Daniel Roland, Michigan, 33.4/11.8/4.4/8.4 Ivy Group First Team C SO Josh Busby, Brown, 23.9/5.9/7.5/1.2 PF JR Boniface Leconte, Pennsylvania, 25.4/12.5/5.1/1.1 SF SR Junior Gibson, Columbia, 27.1/10.1/5.3/1.7 SG JR Russell Jones, Pennsylvania, 23.0/9.2/3.2/2.8 PG SR Harry Crouch, Columbia, 30.4/11.8/3.0/6.6 Second Team C JR Derick Mehta, Dartmouth, 20.2/10.5/5.2/0.8 PF SR Wilson Bolling, Brown, 26.9/12.1/7.2/1.2 SF SR Kraig Felker, Brown, 28.0/9.2/5.4/2.9 SG SR Steven Parks, Brown, 28.2/19.4/6.3/2.6 PG JR Mathis Carrette, Pennsylvania, 29.1/10.4/4.0/3.0 Mid-American Conference First Team C SR David Kowalski, Kent State, 31.2/17.6/5.7/1.5 PF SR Adam Stroh, Bowling Green, 27.6/11.1/7.7/1.1 SF SR William Hurtado, Western Michigan, 33.0/13.5/4.9/1.9 SG JR Carl Baillargeon, Bowling Green, 30.2/12.7/3.3/2.2 PG JR Irvin Jean, Western Michigan, 33.8/8.1/3.7/7.5 Second Team C JR Antwan Dukes, Ohio, 27.7/9.0/8.1/1.1 PF JR Gregory Ruggles, Kent State, 30.9/5.0/10.7/1.0 SF JR Darius Wallace, Toledo, 29.6/10.8/4.8/1.8 SG SR Adan Hower, Western Michigan, 32.9/17.7/3.3/2.0 PG SR Sidney Ewing, Marshall, 26.1/8.5/3.6/2.5 Mid-Atlantic Conference First Team C JR Chris Gallagher, Temple, 28.1/13.4/7.1/1.9 PF JR John Rogers, Saint Joseph's, 27.2/7.2/8.0/1.1 SF SO Don Morgan, Bucknell, 25.4/8.6/4.6/2.0 SG SO Nathaniel Ponce, Bucknell, 25.5/8.2/3.4/2.1 PG SO Teddy Patterson, Temple, 22.4/7.3/1.9/2.5 Second Team C SR Claude Cain, Gettysburg, 26.2/14.1/5.5/1.5 PF SR Frederick McGriff, Delaware, 22.5/4.1/6.9/1.3 SF JR Randall Arriola, La Salle, 25.7/10.8/4.8/1.4 SG JR Gregg Haun, Temple, 27.9/10.0/4.1/4.0 PG JR Wyatt Harrison, Gettysburg, 30.3/6.8/6.0/4.9 Missouri Valley Conference First Team C JR Everett Ybarra, Cincinnati, 25.7/3.4/7.7/1.4 PF JR Burt Krouse, Bradley, 25.1/3.7/5.8/2.2 SF JR Erasmo Phillips, Saint Louis, 27.0/13.1/5.9/1.6 SG SR Stanley Wright, Bradley, 31.6/14.5/3.6/2.7 PG SR Kenneth McNeill, Bradley, 28.9/10.9/4.5/3.4 Second Team C SR George Lavender, Saint Louis, 32.7/12.7/8.3/2.7 PF SR Daniel Burk, North Texas State, 23.4/4.6/5.6/1.7 SF SR Michael Rizo, Tulsa, 28.9/15.1/7.0/1.5 SG JR Forest Vargo, Tulsa, 30.2/12.8/3.9/3.2 PG JR Arthur Jensen, Cincinnati, 26.3/10.9/1.9/1.8 Ohio Valley Conference First Team C SR Timothy Hann, Western Kentucky, 28.1/10.9/9.0/1.3 PF SR Delmar Isley, Middle Tennessee, 28.5/10.2/7.1/1.5 SF SR Steven Hall, East Tennessee State, 31.4/10.8/6.1/2.6 SG SR Manual Parsons, East Tennessee State, 32.3/19.8/4.6/1.9 PG FR Horace Hannigan, Tennessee Tech, 22.0/10.1/2.6/1.5 Second Team C SR Irwin Walter, Murray State, 26.2/11.4/4.9/0.9 PF SR Joseph Tubbs, Tennessee Tech, 28.0/4.0/6.4/1.8 SF JR Curt Boyes, Morehead State, 26.5/9.8/4.5/1.5 SG SO Daniel Mackay, Murray State, 26.8/7.4/3.2/2.2 PG SR Mel Aguila, Middle Tennessee, 31.9/10.5/3.8/2.7 Southeastern Conference First Team C SR Alphonso McAlpin, Vanderbilt, 29.1/15.9/7.5/1.4 PF JR Herbert Leon, Georgia, 20.6/4.2/6.0/1.0 SF SR Nick Miller, Mississippi State, 25.2/9.0/7.3/1.5 SG JR Chris Earl, Kentucky, 29.4/10.6/5.1/2.5 PG JR Linwood Schade, Florida, 32.2/13.9/4.2/4.6 Second Team C JR John Messina, Mississippi State, 30.7/13.2/6.7/1.6 PF SR Isaias Garcia, Auburn, 32.1/4.8/10.9/1.5 SF JR Shelton Toner, Kentucky, 26.3/13.9/5.5/1.9 SG JR Justin Surratt, Auburn, 23.9/13.5/4.1/1.6 PG SR George Gatewood, Kentucky, 29.0/9.7/3.1/7.3 Southern Conference First Team C JR Luke Tenorio, Virginia Tech, 30.3/19.7/6.8/1.5 PF SR Sydney Parker, West Virginia, 31.1/16.6/6.1/1.4 SF SR Edmond Brown, West Virginia, 24.6/7.3/5.3/1.7 SG SR Julius Holcombe, West Virginia, 25.2/12.6/3.9/3.8 PG SR Geoffrey Gavin, West Virginia, 29.3/11.3/2.8/2.5 Second Team C SO Percy Carmack, West Virginia, 26.7/3.9/7.1/1.4 PF JR Andrew Thornton, VMI, 28.1/15.4/8.3/1.4 SF JR Gary Elam, West Virginia, 24.3/10.0/4.8/2.5 SG JR Tony Roesler, Furman, 25.7/12.4/3.3/2.2 PG SR Walter Treadway, Virginia Tech, 20.2/6.0/1.9/2.1 Southwest Conference First Team C SR Cornell Steward, Arkansas, 27.3/7.6/9.1/1.0 PF SR Gary Rutland, Texas Christian, 30.1/9.1/9.4/1.7 SF SR Miles Yarber, Arkansas, 22.3/14.9/3.8/2.0 SG JR Michael Hernandez, Arkansas, 29.1/21.6/4.4/2.3 PG JR Steven Irish, Arkansas, 29.8/8.1/2.0/7.2 Second Team C SR Freddy Lynch, Southern Methodist, 27.2/9.8/5.1/2.1 PF JR Moses Harper, Arkansas, 28.1/6.2/8.0/1.7 SF SO Stephen Williams, Arkansas, 21.2/10.1/2.3/1.4 SG SO Henry King, Texas, 22.7/6.8/4.3/2.1 PG SR Everette Hage, Southern Methodist, 30.3/13.0/3.4/2.9 West Coast Conference First Team C FR Clemens Gehringer, San Francisco, 26.3/4.5/6.6/0.9 PF JR Vyvyan Jarmyn, San Francisco, 29.3/16.1/6.3/1.3 SF SR Lloyd Koster, San Francisco, 25.8/11.6/6.7/2.3 SG SR John Grimsley, San Francisco, 25.1/10.1/3.1/5.2 PG SR Augustus Alaniz, San Francisco, 26.6/7.7/2.1/4.2 Second Team C SR Jason Gilman, Pepperdine, 30.5/7.3/9.9/1.4 PF SR Boyd Ellis, Loyola U, 30.5/8.6/9.1/1.3 SF JR James Shirey, Saint Mary's, 22.2/9.5/4.0/2.0 SG JR Lenard Render, Saint Mary's, 24.6/12.9/2.4/1.8 PG JR Paul Husted, Santa Clara, 30.8/13.8/3.3/4.2 Western Athletic Conference First Team C SR J.C. Routh, Wyoming, 26.2/7.1/7.3/1.4 PF SO Eusebio Deberry, Arizona State, 24.6/13.4/4.0/1.1 SF SR Trent Ready, Brigham Young, 24.6/12.0/6.9/1.6 SG FR Herman Weiner, Utah, 25.1/10.0/5.3/1.6 PG SR Ronald Rollins, Arizona, 30.6/14.7/4.7/2.1 Second Team C JR Kelvin Marinelli, Arizona State, 27.1/5.9/6.0/1.3 PF SO Scott Davis, Arizona State, 21.4/3.4/5.1/1.1 SF SR Isidro Ferrell, Wyoming, 27.2/7.6/6.4/2.7 SG SR Taylor Yung, Arizona State, 30.7/11.4/3.2/1.9 PG JR Hector Holmes, Arizona, 30.2/10.2/2.0/2.3 Yankee Conference First Team C JR Clarence Day, Connecticut, 30.3/8.7/7.9/1.5 PF SR Thurman Doss, Rhode Island, 26.9/7.8/6.7/1.2 SF SR David Stanford, New Hampshire, 33.1/12.1/8.5/2.2 SG SR Milan Arias, Massachusetts, 30.6/14.0/5.2/3.5 PG SR Sydney Volz, Connecticut, 31.7/11.8/4.0/3.9 Second Team C SR Lucius Messina, Vermont, 29.0/13.0/5.5/1.3 PF SR Nick Groce, New Hampshire, 31.4/6.5/8.7/1.7 SF JR Phil Kelley, Connecticut, 31.3/19.7/4.5/1.7 SG JR Dan Yates, New Hampshire, 32.1/14.9/4.4/2.6 PG SR Harlan Serrato, New Hampshire, 30.8/9.6/2.7/3.5 Conference Sixth Man of the Year AAWU – SO Charles Stokes, SG, Washington, 15.9/6.8/2.6/1.2 ACC – JR Tory Williams, SF, Clemson, 15.9/8.8/2.5/1.4 Big Eight – SR Rodney Bauer, SG, Kansas, 16.1/8.9/2.5/1.8 Big Sky – SR George Gailey, PF, Montana State, 15.7/4.4/3.3/0.5 Big Ten – SO Jefferey Branson, C, Michigan State, 2.8/3.6/0.5 Ivy – JR Bryant Seawright, PF, Columbia, 18.6/5.5/5.8/1.0 MAC – JR Tony Thomsen, C, Bowling Green, 17.5/3.8/4.8/0.7 MidAtl – FR Don Hardy, SG, Temple, 19.3/5.7/2.5/1.6 MVC – FR Hunter Keyes, C, Wichita State, 17.4/4.0/3.5/0.6 OVC – SO Tracy Peebles, C, Austin Peay, 16.1/4.5/3.3/0.4 SEC – JR Duane Estrada, C, Auburn, 15.0/3.0/5.5/0.6 SOCON – SR Phillip Borges, C, Citadel, 15.4/4.5/4.0/1.0 SWC – SR Marcus Gaynor, SF, Texas, 15.8/4.4/2.1/1.2 WCC – FR Abel Romero, PF, San Francisco, 15.4/5.4/3.3/0.6 WAC – SO James Roberts, SG, Arizona State, 16.1/3.9/2.2/1.1 Yankee – FR Wally Franklin, PG, Maine-Orono, 19.1/6.9/1.9/1.0 Conference Player of the Year AAWU – SR Brian Penn, C, Southern California, 29.5/10.6/10.8/1.5 ACC – SR Kenny Zimmer, PG, Wake Forest, 32.1/12.5/5.8/9.2 Big Eight – JR Jorge Marlowe, SF, Kansas, 28.7/14.1/6.3/3.2 Big Sky – JR Emmitt Tomblin, PF, Montana, 31.9/6.2/8.0/2.0 Big Ten – SR Toby Wille, SF, Michigan State, 28.1/15.7/7.7/2.6 Ivy – SR Junior Gibson, SF, Columbia, 27.1/10.1/5.3/1.7 MAC – SR David Kowalski, C, Kent State, 31.2/17.6/5.7/1.5 MidAtl – JR Chris Gallagher, C, Temple, 28.1/13.4/7.1/1.9 MVC – JR Everett Ybarra, C, Cincinnati, 25.7/3.4/7.7/1.4 OVC – SR Timothy Hann, C, Western Kentucky, 28.1/10.9/9.0/1.3 SEC – JR Chris Earl, SG, Kentucky, 29.4/10.6/5.1/2.5 SOCON – SR Sydney Parker, PF, West Virginia, 31.1/16.6/6.1/1.4 SWC – JR Steven Irish, PG, Arkansas, 29.8/8.1/2.0/7.2 WCC – JR Vyvyan Jarmyn, PF, San Francisco, 29.3/16.1/6.3/1.3 WAC – SR J.C. Routh, C, Wyoming, 26.2/7.1/7.3/1.4 Yankee – JR Clarence Day, C, Connecticut, 30.3/8.7/7.9/1.5 Freshman All-America Team C Jose Lykins, Washington, 28.5/11.4/6.2/1.6 PF August Johnston, Boston College, 26.8/15.6/4.1/1.0 SF Rodger Matthews, Florida, 25.9/10.0/4.6/1.2 SG Patrik Dusek, Wake Forest, 30.3/9.3/4.7/2.8 PG Horace Hannigan, Tennessee Tech, 22.0/10.1/2.6/1.5 National Freshman of the Year Jose Lykins, C, Washington, 28.5/11.4/6.2/1.6 All-America Teams First Team C SR Brian Penn, Southern California, 29.5/10.6/10.8/1.5 PF SR Greg Chu, Michigan, 28.7/10.2/9.5/2.0 SF JR Jorge Marlowe, Kansas, 28.7/14.1/6.3/3.2 SG SR Justin Penland, Washington, 26.9/15.3/4.5/3.0 PG SR Kenny Zimmer, Wake Forest, 32.1/12.5/5.8/9.2 Second Team C JR Ollie Monzon, Indiana, 29.8/12.6/9.3/1.5 PF JR Vyvyan Jarmyn, San Francisco, 29.3/16.1/6.3/1.3 SF SR Toby Wille, Michigan State, 28.1/15.7/7.7/2.6 SG SR Cristobal Peters, Michigan State, 29.1/18.0/3.8/4.5 PG SR James Gadson, Maryland, 33.7/14.0/5.6/8.6 Third Team C FR Jose Lykins, Washington, 11.4/6.2/1.6 PF SR Daniel Lai, Indiana, 32.2/10.0/10.8/2.2 SF SO Paul Bass, Iowa, 29.4/17.6/4.8/4.5 SG SR John Grimsley, San Francisco, 25.1/10.1/3.1/5.2 PG JR Randolph Routh, North Carolina State, 31.2/8.4/3.7/8.8 National Sixth Man of the Year SO Jefferey Branson, C, Michigan State, 15.1/2.8/3.6/0.5 National Player of the Year SR Kenny Zimmer, PG, Wake Forest, 32.1/12.5/5.8/9.2 |
03-11-2017, 09:30 AM | #25 |
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Minor updates coming here.
Wake We scheduled and it looks like this: Code:
Our OOC schedule is pretty weak, and I did that on purpose. I was a bit too confident in this team last year and if we didn't win our last 5 games in conference last year more than likely would have missed the NCAA tourney. So I scaled the OOC back a ton. We will start the year in the in the Chuck Taylor All star classic. It is my hope that we can go deep in that 16 team field and get some quality wins to help boost our RPI and schedule rank. I then added both Georgia Tech and Northwestern who will be be quality teams this year. On top of that we are locked in to play Michigan State in the ACC-Big 10 showdown. It is the hope that with those teams, and our in conference schedule, we will be able to balance out the need of wins, and playing tough teams for training purposes. Wake had 12+ loses to top 50 teams last year and it almost cost us. I don't want that scare to occur again coming down the stretch. We are currently in the opening stages of recruiting. I want to go into more detail with my teams this year, so that will be coming in a sim or 2. Last edited by muns : 03-11-2017 at 09:31 AM. |
03-11-2017, 09:36 AM | #26 |
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Iowa
Iowa's schedule isn't set. We need one more game which this sim will take care of. But with them, I went tough this year. We have some top notch teams in the OOC, and we will be tested. But a sweet 16- 1 point loss last year with this team was a major disappointment, and we should be even better this year. So I think the schedule will be ok with them. |
03-11-2017, 09:43 AM | #27 |
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Rice
We pretty much stink and will continue to stink. We have a paper soft schedule this year, and actually took up a challenge from Mr. Swartz Bryan claimed that his Western Michigan's Conference, the MAC was much better than Rice and their SWC. Well this year we will be out to prove that, as we have just about every team from that MAC on our schedule. We were the worst team in the SWC last year, so it should be pretty easy to tell from our games this year if Bryan was correct with his statement. I don't think its true, but we will be on the court battling it out for sure. |
03-11-2017, 09:48 AM | #28 |
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Arizona State
We have an un balanced roster, with one offer handed out last year, and it seems one offer to hand out this year. With that the goal is to make the NIT again, so the schedule is a bit soft to try to get us to that 20 win mark. Not worrying about training so much with them at the moment, as the Prestige points are what I am after here. The West is a tough place to recruit due to the amount of teams all close enough to one another and not enough recruits to go around. Its cut throat. So I need the Prestige bumps to try to level the playing field with at least some of the teams in the WCC. I still cant compete with the AAWU schools, nor St. Mary's, Santa Clara's and San Frans of the world, but I would like to start to compete with Pacific's and San Jose States. Last edited by muns : 03-11-2017 at 09:49 AM. |
03-18-2017, 09:43 AM | #29 |
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A quick update on my teams. Recruiting has been an up and down show for the most part which hasn't typically been the case for my top 2 teams.
Iowa is in the 80's prestige wise, and I know we wont get the top 20 kids, but have been pretty good at getting the 25-36 range. It just didn't happen this year. Wake has been really good at picking up guys in the 60-100 range and has moved up to 77 Prestige because of it. We struggled to find 3 this year down in that range that liked us though and are in a decision spot. Iowa- Is in a bind for the first time that I have been coaching them. We lead on 2. A post, and a SF. The third and 4th guys I really liked, and I cant get the one to budge off of going to Iowa State. So I will be dropping that guy. To see him not only stay in state, but go to Iowa State is kind of heart breaking. The 4th, Chris Miskin, Washington came in and nabbed late in the game so I have scrapped him as well. That puts us looking around for 2 offers at the moment, and we have never been in this position before. Thankfully, we have some backups that we are in the top 5 for and it is my hope we will be ok. It might actually work out better for us. Wake- We lead on 2 and have a choice to make on the 3rd. We have one back up for that 3rd spot but isn't as good as the first option that we are trailing on. Do we gamble and hope that we land him, or do we go with the sure option and take the player that would be steady. Choices, choices here. Rice- Lead on one, second on another, 3rd on another, and have a few back ups. I like where Rice sits at the moment. ASU- We lead on our guy, and if we land him should be a real nice player for us. Really happy with how recruiting has gone for ASU. Sunday will be the sim where we have guys sign, and then Training campus. Stuff starts to get real sunday! Last edited by muns : 03-18-2017 at 09:44 AM. |
03-18-2017, 02:59 PM | #30 |
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How do you keep all of your teams straight? I feel like I'd have a hard time with that, though I do dig it mightily.
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03-18-2017, 05:26 PM | #31 |
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You didn't ask me, but I'll wade in on it as if I was even part of the conversation, because I'm arrogant like that :P. I've got some time off most of the next few days so this is a good time to get a contribution to this thread up and running. I have a file that I keep for my part of the league that has whatever notes I need on my teams. I should also mention as part of the general sales pitch that there's nothing stopping someone from just having one team. I recommend that for a year or two, then you can decide if you want to do more.
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03-18-2017, 07:31 PM | #32 |
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Rather than do everything the same for all of them, I try to maintain a distinct philosophy with each different coach/school. I've always found it interesting to see how that changes things up. The file I keep has the following on each team:
** Basics(Prestige, Budget, Training Facilities, Annual Goals, AD Evaluation) ** Coaches(Age, Ratings, Salary) ** Roster Breakdown. After a few years I found it useful to divide my roster in point guards, wing players, and post players. I list all the non-seniors in the most appropriate of these three categories and then target recruiting based off of that. I also keep a truly ridiculous amount of notes during recruiting, which isn't necessary but it helps go back, review what I was thinking before re-evaluate it, etc. Sometimes I've learned things to help me adjust strategies for the new year. General consensus in the league seems to be that recruiting against a sizable number of human opponents is one of the strong points; it keeps the best of us on our toes, and given the status of my programs I wouldn't put myself in that number. As has been said it's really Kirk's league for the most part, and it's real nice of him to let the rest of us play and pretend we have a chance most years. I erase most of this stuff esp. the recruiting at the start of a new year but keep the Basics/Coaches stuff. My favorite two parts of the year are the file flip to a new season when we see the new recruits on the rosters, changes in prestige/budget/coaches etc. and start making plans for the new year; and also training camp which is upcoming in our next sim. At that point I do my annual writeup on expectations for the year. |
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Ok so here's the four stooges(ahem, highly trained professionals) that I have in the league.
Jimmy Sorensen ** Harvard Crimson(1953-present), 141-206(.406), 2 NITs, 2nd round in '58 History The Ivy Group is it's own special challenge with a self-imposed limit among the human owners of no JC transfers, 3.0 GPA or 1000 SAT score required. Things are getting a little interesting now with half the conference not human-owned anymore as the CPU doesn't respect these limitations ... but that hasn't been found to make them overly tough anyway. The four human ones, Harvard, Columbia, Brown, and Penn, have all been controlled by the same people since league start I think. Pretty much the Ivy started out with Columbia on top, which they still are but Dartmouth had their moments before Vince stepped away. Brown has edged out the Indians as the #2 and could surpass the Lions for the top spot in the league by the end of the decade. The Crimson started out at 30 prestige and mostly fell from there, down to the upper teens. We're back up to 22 right now, last in the Ivy, and only that high because the exploits mostly of others raised us from a bottom-end conference to a middling one(3 on the 1-5 scale) a couple of years ago. '53-'54 was the time of Don Unknow, and more than a few jokes were made about his last name. The league began with him as a junior, and he was a very coachable point guard who made us not-terrible. 20 total wins those first two years. Then Matthew Cordoba arrived, an attacking scorer without peer. If nothing else this thread provides an opportunity to pimp his accomplishments yet again. He was a gift that I thankfully didn't refuse. A 1-star, 400+ ranked recruit, Cordoba would become the most prolific scorer in collegiate history, and it's not close. He holds the record for the highest-scoring game(50 pts), season(854, also has the 8th-best; 763 is the #2 spot), and career(2673). Second place all-time is his Ivy rival Mario Poe at Columbia, who had 2323, 350 less. Another way of looking at it: the gap between Poe and 26th place is less than the gap between Poe and Cordoba. Of course it would have been a different story at a top school with better competition and teammates, but he put up 30+ games against almost any level of opponent. He's an NCAA53 legend and the one thing Harvard basketball can brag about. I've seen a lot of players with better ratings flame out badly in comparison; he just had that 'something special', whatever it is. We scouted him as a diamond in the rough but didn't think he would be that good. Planned to have him as a reserve his first year but changed my mind just before the year started. By his senior year, I was doing everything I could to just give him the ball and tell everyone else to get out of the way, and he was still the most efficient scorer on the team. Really warped the game to our benefit, and never had a losing Ivy record with him around(the other eight seasons, we've only failed to do so once). Speaking of which, on the heels of Cordoba's career we brought in Kurt Duncan and some other lesser talents to take over. Duncan was the first-ever 3-star recruit at Harvard. His career was less spectacular. He had his moments, but we continued to flounder. After the high point of 19-13 with a second-round NIT showing in '58, we won just 16 games in the next two years combined. We haven't had a winning season since. Over the years the Ivy has gotten better, and while Sorensen has proved capable of getting his players to play reasonably well together, that only takes you so far. He hasn't been able to bring in enough talent, though that may be changing. A little, anyway. When I evaluate the rosters in the conference, Harvard's been consistently at the bottom. We have a group of young players that has the future looking brighter now ... but it is still quite uncertain. More on them after we see what training camp has in store. Philosophy The idea behind Jimmy Sorensen was to have as my 'primary' coach a teacher-style guy, with recruiting as his lowest rating, middling on scouting, best at offense/defense. What better place to do that than at an elite academic school? The teams invariably play half-court man-to-man, no zone, pressing, or trapping, ever. The goal is to give nothing away, and grind out wins by winning the possession battle. Ballhandling to minimize turnovers and rebounding are prioritized somewhat in both recruiting and training. Generally Harvard has been a respectable, slightly above-average in the Ivy rebounding team. They've had mixed results on defense, but offensively ... getting and making open shots has been a struggle. They've never been adept at both at the same time, save for Cordoba's personal genius on the court. Last edited by Brian Swartz : 03-18-2017 at 07:57 PM. |
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I actually felt like that at first as well. My first season I only had USC, and then I started seeing everybody else with multiple teams so I tried it. I don't go into as much depth as Brian does, as I don't have a different philosophy for each team, but the teams are in all different regions and different Prestige levels. That keeps things separate naturally, as I'm not looking at the same players recruiting wise. I feel this will continue to get better for the league as a whole because as we progress and as with each new team that enters the NCAA, the amount of recruits will continue to go up. Having multiple teams also gives you more time to interact with different guys on the boards as well. In the SWC, Rice is terrible, but the SWC talks so much crap as a whole that its different than the guys that are running the BIG and ACC teams. In the end I have fun with it, and while the community isn't like what we had in "FOOL" with everybody talking and chiming in, there is a good community of guys who post, like Swartz and his arrogant ass here that certainly makes it a worthwhile investment of my time |
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Hal Vanderhoff
** Tulane Green Wave('53-'57), 63-89(.414), 2 NIT, losing in the 1st round both times ** Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets('58-present), 131-91(.590), 2 NIT, 2 NCAA, losing in the Elite 8 both times History Tulane was the third team I chose, basically because I like their logo and the nickname 'Green Wave'. Started off as one of the worst teams in the country(literally), getting just 13 combined wins in the first two seasons. G Eusebio Williams was a good 3-star recruit that came in my first class much to the chagrin of one of the other coaches, and helped lead the program to respectability in the SEC. Others would come, but he was the main building block, a deadly shooter who would eventually average a quite productive 14 ppg as a senior and typically shot in the upper-40s percentage-wise. Solid NIT appearances in years 4 and 5 had them on an upward path, but Vanderhoff is not the kind of coach to look a good opportunity and bolted to Georgia Tech when invited, esp. with Tulane headed to leave the conference anyway. He inherited a team that had been to the post-season four years in a row, and promptly made it five. They'd been upset early in the NCAA tournament twice, but this group made a couple upsets of it's own behind 2k scorer Albert Johnson, reaching the Elite 8 which is better than they really deserved. The top two players graduated and GT fell to 11 wins the next year, the first losing season in school history. Two years later they were back in the NIT, then in the Big Dance the following year('62). A bit of detail about that team as it was the best I've ever had in this game. The centerpiece was 6-10 Antonio Luu, #3 all-time scorer. We got him by virtue of Michigan State choosing another similar but ultimately I think just a bit inferior player in what was a loaded class for big men. He was average on defense but could score in the post, pop out to the mid-range area, and crash the offensive boards at a high level. A pair of quality guards ran the show, particularly Thanh Jeffery another long-time starter. Along with sparkplug Jonah Santo, they were the top two assist guys in the SEC most of the year ... on the same team. JC transfer Danny Bouton was limited but a fine rim protector, and my first HS All-American, versatile Jerald Edwards, had a number of 25-point games when teams thought it was best to make him the guy they left open. Final record was 28-5 and we had a sizable lead in the second half against North Carolina before falling victim to a Tar Heel rally. I don't expect to get that close to the Final Four anytime soon. The next year was a disappointing just-miss sending us to the NIT, where GT again made it to the final 8. With the SEC in decline, the Yellow Jackets left it and are now entering their second year as an independent. The talent has continued to roll in though. There have been four Top 20 classes in the past six years; two of them Top 10 including this past one. As long as that happens, the coach will stick around, but he's not about to go down with the ship and the finances have continued to get tighter. Philosophy Hal Vanderhoff is a strong believer that this is a player's game; his system is most notably the actual lack of one. He looks for talent and athleticism and doesn't particularly care all that much what form it takes, which is probably one reason why the on-court results haven't always matched the accolades, though they've definitely had their moments. He develops players with their natural gifts directing the process almost entirely, and then endeavors to put them in the right position to maximize those on the court. This has sometimes succeeded very well ... and sometimes failed quite badly, as in the case of last year when a team that had the talent to make the NCAA tournament went just 15-15 with a number of bad losses, blamed on a stubbornly and miserably inefficient offense that simply couldn't figure itself out. Vanderhoff is also, as the results show, my only 'recruiting hero' coach. Recruiting is tops, scouting a close second, with the Xs and Os merely average. He's the only coach I've had gain a ratings boost due to his results, once after the 28-win team described above. None of my other HCs have improved yet. He's also the most likely to pack up and move somewhere else at the drop of a hat; more of a 'mercenary', you could say. |
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Paul Maloney
** Michigan Wolverines('53-'59), 97-104(.483), 1 NIT appearance ** Santa Clara Broncos('60-present), 70-75(.483) History If you look at the records above, you can see that Maloney has been nothing if not consistent. Starting off at my favorite college team to root for, the maize and blue of Michigan, he was near the bottom of one of the elite conferences in the Big Ten. The BIG has grown to become the best overall, surpassing the AAWU and ACC as the toughest conference in the nation. There was some bad injury luck for a few years, and the Wolverines did improve, but ultimately he was unable to break through there and 'self-fired'(firing is off in the league) as he was not able to meet the AD's expectations of consistent post-season appearances and would have been fired if it was turned on by the game. F James Beane was the first notable player he recruited, only a 2-star talent but an adept slasher. G Chris Pleasant, highest-ranked recruit to date at the time for U of M at #100 exactly, kept things afloat for a year or two and eventually 4-star players started rolling in. The first three all came in with a breakthrough class in '56, with east-coast guards Kevin Root and DeWayne Richman the best of the bunch. Michigan would regularly target similar-quality players in the years to follow, but with Indiana an established major power, Michigan State rising quickly to join them, Purdue doing almost as well, and Illinois and Iowa nationally known as well, they weren't able to break through that wall. Particularly frustrating was a '57 season in which they started 11-3, only to go just 4-10 in conference. Maloney moved on to Santa Clara in the packed West. They were a middle-of-the-pack team in the WCC, a good-but-not-great 4-rated conference with San Francisco and Saint Mary's as the dominant powers. He hoped to have more success there as the competition wouldn't be quite as fierce, and prestige-wise it was largely a lateral, sensible move. In his five years there the tradition of mediocrity has been even more pronounced; they've won 13 games once, 15 games once, and 14 the other three years. A winning conference mark every season, but never quite good enough for the post-season. The powers that be want an NCAA bid -- Santa Clara has yet to ever even make the NIT -- but they've been happy with sustained, if very modest, success. The 1960 class was the best they'd achieved(31st overall), bringing in G Paul Husted among others who has been rewriting the school's record books. This year they have a group that should be about as good and was once again #31 collectively. In recent years they've been a fine defensive team, but struggled offensively and on the boards. To progress further, the Broncos need to make inroads against second-tier powers such as UCLA, Saint Mary's, and the like, and they haven't been quite good enough to do that aside from some nice upsets from time to time. Philosophy Paul Maloney is a totally balanced coach, equal ratings in all categories. He also got a bump a couple years ago which I forgot about. He's managed to assemble a fairly good staff in the last few years which has helped some, though it looks like he's going to lose one of them soon. His approach is to try to eliminate weaknesses; he values versatility in his players and all of them train significant amounts in every area of the game. The result of this tends to be players without great strengths but also without significant weaknesses, though he's had some outliers with teams at Michigan that were based almost entirely on attacking the paint and recently with Santa Clara being a defensive stalwart + Husted and little else. He's smart enough to know you have to take what you are given. He plays a mix of man and matchup zone, with more willingness to press given the right personnel than the other coaches. |
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Tyler Durden
Western Michigan Broncos('60-present), 75-77(.493), 1 NCAA, 1 NIT History The fourth coach someones takes on is required to be a low-prestige team and also lower-ability guy, with mandated equal ratings. Western Michigan is my sister's alma mater, and gets me back to Michigan and the midwest after having left U of M. The team inherited had some nice perimeter talents, most notably Charles Silver, a 6-1 guard who could not only score but also regularly hauled in 6+ boards a game, pretty rare for a guy of that stature. They also had the interesting moderately-talented Elisha Chow, a towering 7-6 giant! A MAC title resulted in the first season, with a first-round NCAA blowout loss to Indiana. It was the third straight winning season following on from the previous coach, after five straight losing campaigns to start off the league here. Since then it's been more of a struggle, fairly disappointing showings with a low point in '62 of only 10 wins. That was mostly due to the team being a walking medical ward, with 2-3 starters out the majority of the season. The Broncos have been third or better in recruiting almost every year since I arrived. Despite my bravado about the SWC, it's well-established that the MAC is a dumpster fire. They used to have a strong program in Toledo, but that soon faded. This last year was a total disaster; WMU's class was ranked 115th, which was best in the conference with no 3-star players entering for any other school. Usually there's at least one team pushing the Top 50 each year. There's a pretty clear division between the to and bottom of the conference. Marshall, Miami-Ohio, and Ohio all really suck. Miami-Ohio is tied for the worst program in the country at a whopping 12 prestige, the other two are both in the teens and the bottom 10. Kent State, Toledo, Bowling Green State, and Western Michigan are in the upper 20s to 30s, vaguely respectable but still pretty crappy. Nobody has managed consistency. We've had the players to do it and one of the better coaching staffs, but have still underachieved just enough to just hang around. Philosophy Durden has an offense-first approach, looking to outscore the opposition. Shooting and passing are the premium abilities he looks for; defense is optional. His teams have tended to score quite well from the perimeter but give up enough points, especially inside, to nearly wipe out that advantage. Last year this was definitely the case. For a school at this level to get into the post-season they need to either win the MAC or be really consistent in racking up 17-18 wins for the NIT. There's only been the one losing season, but his teams are usually just 'not quite there', 15 wins two of the last three with a just-barely NIT team the third year. |
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Sunday has come and gone, which means recruits have signed and Training campus have been run.
This also means the first polls of the season have come out, so lets get that updated and then I can get into individual updates about my squads. Before I go into that, I forgot to post about what Brian was talking about earlier. I love the fact that our all time leading scorer went to freaking Harvard of all places. Cordoba will go down as one of the best players of all time, and certainly more than a few mid-majors missed the boat on him. It's a great story for the league, and honestly I hope his record stand for a few more years. Nice work not only nabbing him, but developing him Brian. On to the First poll of the season. Code:
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Iowa
The Hawkeyes come into this season sans one player that was a starter. From my perspective, this is the year everybody on the team has been a "me" recruit and that is pretty darn exciting. We are ranked 4th, coming off the best year we have ever had last year, and I think this year we have a legit shot at a national title. Now I think there are 4 or 5 other schools with legit shots as well, but I think we are certainly in the conversation. We return 4 starters, and 3 guys that played significant mins for us. We also get an influx of new talent, with 3 freshman that could easily be starters on other teams in other leagues. Code:
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Paul Bass will be in contention for player of the year talk, and as he goes, so should we. We will be able to score, finally be able to rebound, and play some nice defense all adding a ton of depth when we get into foul trouble. I am liking the position Iowa is in and am hoping we can do better in the tourney this year. Last years 1 point loss to Cal stung in the sweet 16. |
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Iowa Recruiting
Like I have said, we are in an interesting position this year. We swung on some of our initial targets and missed. We haven't really done that in the past 4 years here so we are behind the 8 ball so to speak. First guys is Wallace Mitchell. Undersized big guy height wise, but makes up for it in weighing in at 249. He should be able to rebound, hold on to the ball, and potentially might be able to score some. He wont win any awards, but will give us some good mins in the post spot eventually. Code:
Our 2nd recruit has us really intrigued. In fact we are hoping he can be a poor man's Paul Bass. We are calling him Paul Bass 2.0 for the moment. He should be a lights out scorer who should be able to play some nice D. At 6'7 he will create some nice match up problems, and are excited to get him, even if he is only the 88th ranked recruit. He reminds me of another one of my small Forwards who currently plays for Wake Charles Oubre. All Charles did was average 20 points a game last year. If he can comes close to Paul or Charles, ill be pretty excited about him Code:
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Wake update
Wake comes into the year ranked 9th in the polls. Like Iowa, we should be deep and talented, but unproven. Wake barely made the tournament last year, which was part my fault as I loaded them up with a big time schedule. They faltered at 22-13 and had to win 5 straight conference games to finish the year to make the NCAA tournament. I don't want another repeat of that, so there are more than a few cupcakes this year on the schedule. With the loss of the NCAA's all time assist leader Kenny Zimmer, we really don't have a super star on the roster. In order to win this year, everybody will have to play their role and be a team. I expect there to be lots of moving parts at play here because they all have weaknesses. This isn't Iowa, where half the roster is top 20 recruits. These guys have warts and try to cover them up as a collective unit Code:
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Wake might not be a national contender, but they do have the talent to make a deep run if they get the right path. Really hoping they take the next step forward like Maryland did last year. Last edited by muns : 03-20-2017 at 06:25 PM. |
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Wake Recruiting
We landed our first 2 targets and missed on the 3rd. Charles isn't flashy. He isn't big, but he will do enough to warrant playing time, and will do a nice job here. I like the he will rebound and play some real nice D for us in the future. Code:
Our 2nd recruit is going to be the jewel of the class and we are pretty excited about him. Philip will be that true point guard we will need once current PG Winston Robinson graduates, and we hope he follows in the footsteps of PG's past. Zimmer was special, Robinson can be, and now Fox could just be the next guy to rotate in. Code:
Our 3rd recruit chose not to come here, and instead we lost him to freaking South Carolina. That's a kick in the nards. Anytime you lose a guy it hurts, but to see him play in conf for the next 4 years is going to hurt. South Carolina is going to have a real nice class this year, and you heard it here first folks. Thankfully our fallback option stayed put, so our gamble should pay off. Brian wont be happy about it, but Pedro has had Wake at the Top of his list for a while now, and its time for him to hopefully come next sim. Last edited by muns : 03-20-2017 at 06:35 PM. |
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Rice
So Rice. Sigh, my loveable bunch of losers. Talent wise we have gone from all terrible guys, to guys with potential. So there is something to hang our hats on, and that's improvement. Over the past 3 years we have gone 8-22, 10-19 and 8-21. I would love to start winning some more games, but I don't think we are there yet, and I laugh saying yet because I don't think it starts to happen next year either. Let's just say we aren't knocking on the door step of the SWC crown anytime soon. But I like the roster compared to where we were 3 years ago so there is that. Code:
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Maybe we get lucky and win 10 games, who knows. Improvement is the word for the next few years here at Rice, and that's about as much as I can ask. We pick up no recruits. Lead on one, 2nd on another, and 3rd on another. Has the potential for a nice class, but we need some help for it to happen. Last edited by muns : 03-21-2017 at 05:33 PM. |
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We made this NIT last year, and that is again going to be the same goal this year. We have a decent squad. I cant complain about talent, but putting it all together is going to be the challenge. Code:
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Hoping we can do another 20 win season. We are right on the cusp, and the WAC is a weak conference. So what I guess I am saying is there is a chance! We lead on our only recruit. I will say if we land him, coupled with Ariel Hann that we landed last year, we will have a real good first few guys to build around moving forward. |
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Thanks -- I've tried to recreate the magic but it's one of those things that just takes a perfect storm. It's nice to have something like that to hang my hat on given Harvard's struggles otherwhise. Recruiting Notes I'll put up my season preview stuff for my team, which I tend to get somewhat long-winded on, but here's how recruiting has gone for my teams this year. In short, not well. As the year begins ... Harvard -- Three openings. So far I've struck out. A critical year as I've done well two of the last three classes and had at least one good player(i.e., green potential) for a number of groups in a row. Still have several 'dead weight' players though. Another good one and I could start competing in the new and improved Ivy which has really helped the budget here. We've been jumped by bigger programs on everybody we've tried so far, and the options were even fewer than usual to start off. Right now I'm targeting a forward who we're trailing a school with twice our prestige, but really likes us and hasn't visited campus yet so I'm not giving up. That's the only one we've been chasing that I didn't have to quit on. The others are a high-ranking short guard that isn't even at a need spot, but potentially too good to ignore, and a somewhat undersized post player from the south who has the right skills, but is expensive to chase. Before the last couple of years and the Ivy's bump-up, I wouldn't even be able to go after him. Still, we really need something to break our way, and soon, to salvage anything significant from this class. None of them are 'green' potential, they are more 'fit' guys. Compared to last year, when we got a 3-star forward from Missouri that nobody else ever offered. Sometimes things break your way. For the Crimson, that hasn't happened. Georgia Tech -- Looking good on a diminutive guard that we really like, and a flawed but talented post. We missed out on our first few big guys which happens a lot; finding quality big man talent is tough, and the teams that have it really have an edge. Still better than an indy team has any right to as both are 4-star players so I'll take it if they come. Looking pretty good here, only needed the two players. No signings yet though ... the guard kept looking for other suitors but thankfully never had any. Santa Clara -- One signee in G Alphonso Lyles(6-1, 191, CA, #158). Local boy who fits the point-guard need, tracks as an above-average shooter, elite passer, adequate defender and athlete. Not a great find but definitely works for depth behind our stud recruit from last year who is redshirting. A second spot we gambled on and loss. Didn't want to chase Texan Derrick Bowes, but when nobody had offered last month we jumped off the guy we had basically locked up, ranked a lot lower but almost as good, and offered Bowes. Colorado got him; we were second place but that doesn't do anyone any good. Lost out on F Kurtis Blake, a rugged 4-star PF, to Stanford probably due to the AAWU's conference edge, and G Valerio Campos, also local, to Oregon for the same basic reason. Those were the guys we needed in this group. After a fine class last year(ranked #31, tied for my best here) this was a chance to move up a bit if we could back it up. Didn't happen. I like Lyles, and I've got offers out to three other players that I think are in the 'quality 3-star' category, but I doubt I get all of them. Could end up with only one. Wouldn't be the end of the world to hold over a scholarship, and if I get solid players for the other positions it'll be about the best I can hope for now. One of my conference foes, Saint Mary's, had six openings and that really helped clog a lot of stuff up in terms of the available players. Western Michigan -- What happened here really frosted me. Two Michigan players, G Timothy Hay and C Israel Hembree, were poached by out-of-state MAC foes despite my best efforts. BGSU and Kent State, to properly place the blame. If I can't hold on to in-state talents against them, I'm in trouble. The one guy I did land was from Indiana ... I swear I'm doing better there than from the Great Lakes State! Took a look at the current roster: 3 from Michigan, 4 from Indiana, 3 from Illinois, 2 from Ohio. And another Hooser now. G Darren Markus(6-3, 186, IN, #275) is a low 3-star player, doesn't have much of a jumper which is a minus , average defensively, but has the ball skills to run the offense well which is what we were looking for being in a point guard crisis after this year. Another couple of offers went out to 3-star guys in our general regional vicinity, and we need to hit soon as we are running out of options. Everybody still has work to do, and a lot of it except for GT who seems to be locked in. Combined with an unimpressive start to the year on the court, and it's going to be a tense season. Last edited by Brian Swartz : 03-22-2017 at 05:51 PM. |
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Harvard 1965 Season Preview
With almost everybody back from a team that won 11 games, and was break-even in the Ivy, there is some legitimate hope for a winning season this year. It certainly should be one of the best in recent memory. It's not often there is cause for optimism at Harvard, so it figures to be an exciting year. There were a lot of physical improvements on the team with Black and Bennett seeing a bit of a growth spurt, Jones adding some muscle inside, etc. That can only help. Starters The staff and Sorensen are at odds for a couple of positions. We'll start where they agree. Senior G Freddie Bagley(12.1 ppg, 3.8 rpg, 2.1 apg, 2.6 topg, 39% fg, +0.11) is expected to be the leading scorer for a third straight year. It'd be nice to see his shooting bounce back up, and with some improvement in the point-guard situation that should happen. He showed good across-the-board improvement for his final year. Passing and rebounding could be a little better but he's close to realizing his full potential. Freddie is currently 8th in scoring here, and will move up that list some. The inside positions will also stay the same. Senior F Gerald Modlin(10.2 ppg, 8.2 rpg, 0.8 spg, 43% fg, -1.43 +/-) had a surprisingly low plus-minus last year given that he's the best defender and rebounder on the roster. Like Bagley he continued to show the good, steady improvement that he has for his whole career. If a bit undersized at 6-6, Modlin is a 4-year starter, 9th in steals and 5th in rebounds. He'll should find his way to #2 on the boards before he's done. Junior 6-10 C Darwin Lamas(8.4 ppg, 5.2 rpg, 1.2 bpg, 46% fg, -1.82) had a very anemic camp, a continuation of his career as a disappointment. Mostly the shot-blocking is expected to improve, rebounding a bit, but his stamina still isn't there and at this point we've got to face the fact that he's lazy. Still a pretty good player for a 1-star recruit, but definitely not what he was hoped to be. Those are the consensus positions. At point guard, the staff wants soph. Marley Vye(16.8 mpg, 4.1 ppg, 1.6 apg, 1.6 topg, 42% fg, -0.93) to have the spot despite the fact that classmate Thomas Black(20.4 mpg, 7 ppg, 2.2 apg, 1.7 topg, 44% fg, -1.33) won the spot from him late last year and had a better camp. Vye is somewhat less inadequate as a defender, but Black is definitely the better passer and should be serviceable if not overly impressive at running the offense this year. He gets the spot to start off the year. Then at small forward, true freshman Daniel Panagua, a rare actual swingman type fit for the position at 6-5, 208 and already the best on the team at attacking the basket, is the consensus choice. However, he doesn't have the stamina for it, so he's getting redshirted anyway. A subpar rebounder without much range and adequate but not better in defense and ball skills, he could use the work to become a little more effective. Conditioning is the main issue here. Then they said ok, let's try redshirt freshman Francis Caldwell. Also 6-5, he's of course totally unproven as well, solid midrange game and decent ball skills but doesn't rebound very much and perimeter defense is poor. His athletic gifts can't make up for all of that. Instead, another redshirt freshman, Dillon Bennett, will get the spot. At 6-2, 196, Bennett will be undersized in what will effectively be a three-guard attack this year. He's a better shooter than Caldwell though, and a better rebounder, can't guard anyone either but has even a bit better athleticism, elite leaping ability which will help, fairly quick and decent strength. Also important here is just getting him on the floor, as he is going to be the future point guard and the expectation is the best one to ever play for the Crimson. He's not ready for that role yet, and if Black develops well enough maybe a dual-point offense will go for a while, but given the lack of a compelling argument to the contrary it seems sensible to get him on the court right away. He's got plenty of conditioning to play major minutes, another bonus as it has allowed him to work on his skills more than many young players. Key Reserves Vye, Harvard's first foreign recruit, will handle the backcourt duties. He has a pretty good mid-range shot and is a plus passer, creates a few turnovers, contributing in multiple areas. Any of the starting perimeter guys get hurt and he can step in. A couple of walk-on juniors will also have significant roles. F Jere Hernandez(7.8 ppg, 5.9 rpg, -1.64) was the starting SF last year and did reasonably well. 6-10 C Kenneth Kean(21 mpg, 6.1 ppg, 5.5 rpg, +0.36) has size, decent defense, and crashes to offensive boards with abandon. He'll be needed the most as Lamas is the only starter who can't play 30+ minutes. Redshirt freshman C William Jones(6-10, 251) will get some time early on, splitting the backup post duties with Kean. He's a decent rebounder who will become better there, ditto on defense. William could become the best overall rim protector in Harvard history with the versatility to guard outside some. That makes him potentially the best choice to back up Modlin at the 4. His offensive game is virtually nil though, and he's got all the mobility of a rock. End of the Bench ** G/F Francis Caldwell(6-5, 207, Fr(RS)) -- Caldwell's athleticism, shooting, ability to create steals, and decent handling looked like they would guarantee him of a role here eventually despite his limitations. With the perimeter talent currently on the roster though, the standards have gotten a little higher. Right now the projection is that he'll never be more than a minor role player off the bench, staff opinions notwithstanding. ** G/F Chris Phifer(6-7, 197, Jr(RS)) -- Phifer played a significant role for the first time last year, 14.4 mpg and scored almost 6 ppg but only 42% shooting. Good athlete who can pass but he turns it over too much and the shot selection is concerning. Can't defend or rebound either. Emergency option for any of the perimeter positions, but that might have been the most action he'll ever see. ** F/C Ronald Birnbaum(6-8, 214, Sr) -- A third straight year of minimal time last year, 4 mpg in 19 appearances, and more of the same is expected. A little above-average defensively, but zero ball skills, limited offense and rebounding, average athlete with unimpressive stamina ... he was a reach as a recruit and never really in the mix. ** F Preston Dunford(6-6, 217, Jr(RS)) -- Dunford actually has a solid offensive game, but he can't guard anywhere and doesn't have the rebounding ability to play inside. Enough ball skills to play at the three, but his conditioning is bad and there's always been better options to play there. Another guy who's turned out to be a near-complete zero, with 57 minutes played so far. ** F/C J.C. Gwinn(6-6, 210, So(RS)) -- Gwinn has an ok mid-range game but that's it, and never met a free-throw he couldn't airball. Zero ball skills, ok rebounder and defender whose best skill is shotblocking. Just two many holes. He's been on the court twice for a total of three minutes, and won't add much to that. Redshirts Paniagua is the only one this year. He'll eventually work his way into significant minutes on the wing, but there's enough there right now with Bennett and Hernandez that there's no hurry. Outlook Looking at the end-of-the-bench section, you can see that Harvard has really swung and missed on frontcourt prospects in recent years. That's a trend that needs to end if they are to be consistently respectable in the Ivy. This year they are likely to be about the same defensively at best; the one big drawback to starting Bennett is it gives them two guys on the perimeter who can't guard anyone. Modlin and Bagley are good defenders, Lamas is decent esp. when you add in the shotblocking. Offensively and rebounding-wise they should be somewhat improved, and last year the defense was adequate anyway so if the gains elsewhere maintain that, there's no reason they can't hope for a competitive showing. This should be the most balanced team, in terms of getting contributions from multiple players, that Harvard has ever had. There's still no true star, but hopefully there's the ability to be more consistent. |
03-23-2017, 07:23 AM | #48 |
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First sim in the books and it was a great sim for 2 of my teams.
I cant however give the update I want, as I am at yet another Title IX conference. Been at 2 over the past month and they have been doozy's. But as you can see from the Top 25, both Iowa and Wake won both of their tournaments they entered to start the season. I didn't expect either, and once I can give a proper update I will say why. Both faced stiff competition and it was pretty cool to see the outcomes. I will say having 2 teams in the top 5 at the same time is a pretty cool thing to accomplish. I mean let's face it, I am not Kirk, but is cool to see. We still have a long season ahead of us so we haven't done anything yet, but the start is something to be happy about. Next sim should be tonight Code:
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03-23-2017, 03:01 PM | #49 |
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I'll spam the thread here with the rest of my pre-season stuff, then leave the thread to muns for the most part for the balance of the year. One of the things I do is put together a brief synopsis of how I expect the conferences I'm involved in to shake out. There are always surprises, but I find it an enjoyable way to familiarize myself with the competition.
1965 Ivy Group Projection 1. Pennsylvania -- It's put up or shut up time for the four Quaker seniors, including the talented Leconte-Garrett-Jones trio. They've never had a winning season overall or a non-losing Ivy one. This year there should be only one team that can challenge them, but the track record is not inspiring. 2. Columbia -- Who else? They don't have the depth that Penn has, but they've got the pedigree and the resources. Who runs the offense here is the big question, but Vestor Bohl has three years left to terrorize the Ivy, Seawright is fine rebounder, and Willman is a nice complementary attacker as well. You can make an argument that the Lions should be the favorites here. 3. Cornell -- Tough call for the top pretenders, but I'm going with Cornell here. Everyone knows about Carruthers, but sophomore Thomas Whitmore looks set for a breakout year and figures to take over his mantle after this season. 4. Yale -- More depth, but not as much balance as the Big Red keeps the Bulldogs in 4th. On the other hand, Barry Reyes, the lone senior, is probably the best point guard in the conference despite standing just 5-8. Yale is rising ... but not quite there yet. 5. Princeton -- There's a significant drop here to the bottom half, which should be quite competitive. The Tigers have a little more talent than the rest ... but only a little. Junior Alex Randel(14.6 ppg, 47% fg) powers a team that, like many, has plenty of perimeter firepower but is lacking on the inside. However, Abe Linden is one of the top rebounders anywhere, and that might be enough to make up for other limitations. 6. Harvard -- Nearly as good as Princeton, they could move up a spot if Sorensen can get the young backcourt to gel. There isn't a more balanced team in the conference, but justifiable concerns about the defense abound. Senior Freddie Bagley would love to help them stop a six-year streak of losing campaigns to cap his legacy here. 7. Brown/Dartmouth -- The Bears brought in another fine class, but they've lost too much to maintain their lofty status. Catorie can shoot, Walk can rebound, and Busby can block shots at a high level, but they are lacking the well-rounded team necessary to avoid a step backwards. Dartmouth has the same problem, with the twin towers of Mehta and Roybal going into their final season without sufficient help. Both are just a hair behind Princeton and Harvard and could avoid the cellar if things go their way. There is a significant division between the top and bottom half of the conference this year. It would be a big disappointment for any of the top four if they slipped below that station. Penn is definitely the team to watch this year in my opinion, to see if they can make good on their abilities. |
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1965 Georgia Tech Season Preview
Year two as an independent for Hal Vanderhoff, and the first one left a decidedly bitter taste in his mouth. The question for the year is whether they will pull their heads out of their arses. The pollsters think there's a chance, ranking them 10th among 'others receiving votes', or 35th overall. Starters Four of the five spots were obvious; what to do with that forward position was the question. In the backcourt, senior Carl Gerard(12.8 ppg, 3.4 apg, 3.0 topg, 1.3 spg, 44% fg, -1.24 +/-) returns for a third straight year. He's a top-notch defender, the leading scorer last year, and a good passer ... but has been unable to get the offense moving for whatever reason. He's going to be considered a disappointment unless that changes. Alongside him is sophomore Larry Trevino(5.8 mpg, 3.8 ppg, 60% fg, 0.10), lightning-quick and boasting as fine a mid-range J as you'll see anywhere. He'll struggle on defense, but figures to follow in the footsteps of Williams and Driver before him as a shoot-first, shoot-second, shoot-again when in doubt guard. You never know how a player will adapt to being promoted to starter, but there are other scoring options on this team and his production last year sure speaks well of him. Inside, senior Christopher Bunch(6.7 ppg, 9.2 rpg, 41% fg, 0.23) is basically the same player he was last year, maybe a little better defender. He'd already nearly peaked as a good but not great pivot. Adequate defense and post-ups ... though he fell off a cliff in his accuracy last year ..., but elite rebounding is his main job. Joining him in the frontcourt is junior Andrew Hendon(18.6 mpg, 6 ppg, 3.5 rpg, 1.2 bpg, 44% fg, -1.80), a former HS All-American that instate rival Georgia wanted. And his time has now come. Last year he showed flashes of brilliance but was inconsistent; after a fine off-season effort he should be significantly improved in all phases. He adds some rim protection on defense, though he's not in the class of a Bouton by far. And then there's the matter of small forward. There were many options here but ultimately the staff and fans demand and after careful consideration Vanderhoff agrees that the first-ever GT 5-star recruit must be given his chance. Shawn Drain will be a tough matchup at 6-9 and a fine, versatile athlete on the wing. He's a plus defender and decent slasher right now, poor ball skills and not the best rebounder though. As his ability to attack the basket improves, he'll become more important. This year he figures as a complementary guy, definitely the weakest of the starters, but he should be passable. In a couple years, he could become fairly imposing. That's the hope, at any rate. And the bad puns about him 'draining' shots simply write themselves for the announcers. Key Reserves Junior Gerard Dixon(11 mpg, 3.6 ppg, 56% fg, 0.13) is one of the better bench players around. He's been the backup point the last couple of years, but this season he'll handle the wing positions. A fine shooter and a plus defender and passer as well, he's quite versatile and valuable. He slides over because redshirt freshman Colton Peters is deemed ready to handle the backup point duties. Peters is only adequate at best on defense but has the vision to eventually become a top-notch distributor of the ball, and also has the quickness and footwork to penetrate into the teeth of the defense on more than an occasional basis. The banging inside will be done by another redshirt freshman, C Israel Tye. He's an adequate defender and post-up option who does a fine job on the offensive boards, and figures to particularly improve on the defensive end over time. Not very mobile, but expected to be a very good lane patrol guy in a year or two. Definitely the heir apparent to Bunch for the starting center spot next year. End of the Bench There isn't much this year here as the Yellow Jackets have some redshirts going and the walk-ons won't contribute. ** F Ronnie White(6-5, 215, Jr(RS)) -- White is an elite defender and rebounder, esp. for a wing on the latter. The near-complete lack of an offensive game have kept him from playing a significant role, but he can definitely hold down the fort otherwhise in case of injuries. ** F Ellis Newton(6-4, 226, So(RS)) -- Newton is a misfit who is really best as an undersized four, much like Kimura before him. He's the emergency option if one of the big guys get hurt, and while his post D is excellent, the lack of size and rebounding makes Vanderhoff really hope he doesn't have to use him there. Redshirts While Drain plays this year, three talented fellow recruits will sit. All are expected to contribute in future seasons. ** F Joseph Alston(6-4, 209) -- Versatile enough to guard any position on the floor and also score serviceably from anywhere, Alston reminds many of Jerald Edwards. He's a better shotblocking and ballhandler, doesn't rebound as well, but there are more similarities than differences. The variability in his game ensures some kind of role in the future. ** G Matthew Pauley(5-11, 187) -- Pauley can only play one position, scoring guard, won't rebound much, and can't defend. He can shoot the ball with the best of them though, and unlike many pure shooters he can also attack some to go with fine athleticism. Ball skills are solid as well, though not enough for him to run the offense. He figures to back up Trevino for a couple of years, then take over for him. Matt gives GT a premium scoring threat at the two-spot for the forseeable future. ** C Clifford Rosales(6-10, 248) -- Unable to land a premium big man, Vanderhoff settled on Rosales, an Arkansas All-Stater who is ready to contribute already but wouldn't have seen many minutes this year barring injury. He's a big-time post scoring threat and a good offensive rebounder and shot-blocker. Positioning and rebounding on the defensive end are major weaknesses though, and stamina/athleticism are unimpressive. A flawed player, but he could team reasonably well as Mr. Offense to Tye's Mr. Defense inside for a year or two. Outlook Everything depends on getting the offense moving. Gerard is a legitimate star, Trevino, Hendon, Bunch, and Dixon are all quite good. The attack will shift focus this year with Gerard/Trevino/Hendon getting a significant amount of iso calls, all of them being good slashing, attacking players. Defense should be more than adequate although Trevino is a weak spot. Keeping Bunch health and on the floor is huge; the perimeter guys can't help at all with rebounding and Hendon's not the best there, so without him the glass is a major weakness. Drain will help a bit there, but not that much. Georgia Tech has enough firepower to make a run at the NCAA tournament, but they could also flounder their way through a season similar to last year's. Bunch and offensive execution have to come through, but this is a good to very good team if they do. They will not be fun to guard. |
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