Trump's Immigration Reform

[JPhillips]

The arguments from the White House that a single judge shouldn't be able to issue a national injunction is really just an argument that the President is unbound by the law. ur system relies on that single district judge to make a ruling. Cases can't start at the SCOTUS level.

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

The arguments from the White House that a single judge shouldn't be able to issue a national injunction is really just an argument that the President is unbound by the law. ur system relies on that single district judge to make a ruling. Cases can't start at the SCOTUS level.

They're also the first to run to Texas to judge shop. You can't have it both ways.

[flere-imsaho]

I dunno, I think they're pretty close to being able to have it both ways.

[Edward64]

Originally Posted by flere-imsaho

Where does it stop, Trump apologists like Edward?

I've actually been monitoring this one. Yesterday, there was talk that she was on J-1 visa and improperly got the H-1 visa. That was just speculation as the reason for her denial was not formally explained, so I didn't (unlike many) want to jump the gun.

It looks like the real explanation is below ...

Just a moment...

Federal authorities say they deported a Lebanese doctor holding an American visa last week after finding “sympathetic photos and videos” of prominent Hezbollah figures in the deleted items folder of her cell phone.

... also told Customs and Border Protection agents that while visiting Lebanon last month she attended the funeral of Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah and supported him “from a religious perspective” but not a political one.

Specific to why she was sent back even with a court order ...

CBP official John Wallace said in a sworn declaration filed with the court that CBP officials at Boston’s Logan Airport hadn’t received formal notification of the court order through official channels before Alawieh was put on an Air France flight bound for Paris on Friday night.

Originally Posted by Atocep

He can just sue and it'll all be ok.

Er ... he = she.

Yes, she should sue if she thinks she'll win. But no, I really don't think she'll win this one. Maybe, wait till the next time a more sympathetic administration is in office?


EDIT: oh, before there's talk about Customs being fascists and looking at cell phone pictures ... nope, perfectly legal at an airport.

[Edward64]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

Basing your immigration policy around the whims of a reviled foreign country seems like a great way to keep talent and investment out.

Yes, it would be good if a Lebanese doctor go back and work in Lebanon and help her people vs reaping the benefits of the US while being a hypocrite. We don't need that talent nor investment ... there's plenty of Indian & Chinese medical doctors ready to take her place and be good guests as they get their citizenship.

Not to mention how weak it makes us look to have a country repeatedly humiliate our President.

Lebanon repeatedly makes the US look "weak" and "humiliated"?

As I've mentioned before, I'll need to understand if this is your opinion or if this is based on some factual basis (e.g. see Philippines is not a democracy and US is not decoupling from China).

We live in different realities and if this is your opinion, then I'll pass. But if based on some factual basis, feel free to post non-twitter-like sources & links and we can have a discussion?

[Edward64]

Originally Posted by Edward64

Unfortunate, but not going to disagree that the legal process should be followed. Trump will no doubt continue to challenge/interpret law and chip away especially at the edges, so judicial checks is a good thing (especially since Dems seem hopeless right now).
:
We'll see what happens in a couple weeks or so, if not sooner.

I guess it's happening "sooner". I don't know all the legalese and it'll probably end up with SCOTUS to make a final determination.

From what I've read, it seems Trump/DoJ are arguing ...

Boasberg verbally ordered the planes be turned around, but they apparently were not and he did not include the directive in his written order.

I think this is a reasonable counter. In my work, if I'm given a request/direction/order to do something that I believe has risk of coming back at me negatively, I would request it in a written email.

This is definitely a CYA as people don't remember the same words etc. which provides plausible deniability. If the Judge told me to do this, I would have asked for a written order explicitly stating his instructions.

... the Trump administration’s argument that the deportations under the Alien Enemies Act were not subject to judicial order after the flights left U.S. airspace.

Yeah, this one is pretty weak IMO.

If I was Trump, I would have redirected the plane to Guantanamo. There would still be a fight, but that one has more "grey/leeway" than "not subject to judicial order after leaving US airspace".

[cuervo72]

I’m the Canadian who was detained by Ice for two weeks. It felt like I had been kidnapped | US immigration | The Guardian

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by cuervo72

I’m the Canadian who was detained by Ice for two weeks. It felt like I had been kidnapped | US immigration | The Guardian

It's OK. According to Edward she can just go to court.

[Edward64]

Absolutely. Don't think she'll win as far as why she was detained, but I can see a lawsuit in her treatment during detainment.

Front Office Football Central - View Single Post - Trump's Immigration Reform

But no, not going to spend much time worrying about her. There are more worthy illegals & legal non-citizens to worry about. Spend more time worrying about the below situation ...

Texas child being treated for cancer — and who is a US citizen — is deported to Mexico with undocumented parents | The Independent


... than on illegal felons sent to Guantanamo/El Salvador; Canadian tattoo artist trying to skirt visa constraints; Palestinian doctor who supports enemy of US etc. Because if this is what Dems/Progressives think will win them the next election, I predict they won't get enough votes.

[flere-imsaho]

Edward is too busy to worry about due process and other fundamental concepts of Democracy.

[Edward64]

Originally Posted by flere-imsaho

Edward is too busy to worry about due process and other fundamental concepts of Democracy.

And many here are too worried about situations that IMO majority of American's don't care enough about. Same old mistake, different priorities ...

The HBO star (Bill Maher) then quoted The Atlantic’s David Frum, who warned “If liberals insist that enforcing borders is a job only fascists will do, then voters will hire fascists to do what liberals won’t.”

“Voters keep saying over and over again we are not comfortable with this level of immigration. I understand why. It doesn’t make you a racist to say that,” Maher said.

There are plenty of bad situations to worry about but not the ones that have been recently posted.

[flere-imsaho]

The ends justify the means, eh, Adolf?

[cuervo72]

I mean, who cares about the rights of any given individual? These are petty concerns.

/s

[Edward64]

Originally Posted by flere-imsaho

The ends justify the means, eh, Adolf?

For someone who is concerned about family being sent off to "concentration camps", you sure like that supporter of Nasrallah.

[Edward64]

Originally Posted by cuervo72

I mean, who cares about the rights of any given individual? These are petty concerns.

And look at what that got us for the next 4 years ... was it worth it? Or you don't believe illegal immigration was a key factor in the loss?

The HBO star (Bill Maher) then quoted The Atlantic’s David Frum, who warned “If liberals insist that enforcing borders is a job only fascists will do, then voters will hire fascists to do what liberals won’t.”

[flere-imsaho]

Originally Posted by Edward64

For someone who is concerned about family being sent off to "concentration camps", you sure like that supporter of Nasrallah.

You just self-identified as a fascist in post #711.

[flere-imsaho]

I'm tempted to say "if you're quoting Bill Maher to support your argument, you've lost whatever shred of credibility you once had" but you didn't have any credibility so, I dunno, maybe negative credibility?

Put it this way, if you told me the sky was blue I'd still check it myself.

Also, you're a fascist cunt.

[Edward64]

Originally Posted by flere-imsaho

You just self-identified as a fascist in post #711.

Oh, cancel culture & name calling back again? My bad, I thought it died with the progressive dreams in Nov 2024.

[Edward64]

Originally Posted by flere-imsaho

I'm tempted to say "if you're quoting Bill Maher to support your argument, you've lost whatever shred of credibility you once had" but you didn't have any credibility so, I dunno, maybe negative credibility?

Put it this way, if you told me the sky was blue I'd still check it myself.

Also, you're a fascist cunt.

And you support a person that supports a person that would not hesitate to kill your family? What does that make you?

[flere-imsaho]

Oh bless, did I make you cry?

Originally Posted by Edward64

And you support a person that supports a person that would not hesitate to kill your family? What does that make you?

No, I don't support JonInMiddleGA. Are you getting confused again? Is carrying on an argument too much for your feeble fascist brain? Maybe you should check your Mom's basement for illegals again.

[Sweed]

Originally Posted by Edward64

And many here are too worried about situations that IMO majority of American's don't care enough about. Same old mistake, different priorities ...




There are plenty of bad situations to worry about but not the ones that have been recently posted.

The HBO star (Bill Maher) then quoted The Atlantic’s David Frum, who warned “If liberals insist that enforcing borders is a job only fascists will do, then voters will hire fascists to do what liberals won’t.”

Quote:
“Voters keep saying over and over again we are not comfortable with this level of immigration. I understand why. It doesn’t make you a racist to say that,” Maher said.

Bill Maher is a voice of reason and not afraid to hit, not only the right, but the left too. Of course, to the far left, that means he's a, take your pick, DINO, LINO, PINO . Pretty much the same as a conservative that isn't 100% MAGA, is a RINO.

Maher's words on many of the subjects discussed here would have members of this board contending he was MAGA and should just admit it. Oh yeah, and racist too.

To the far right he's just a Lib.

[Edward64]

No, I don't support JonInMiddleGA. Are you getting confused again? Is carrying on an argument too much for your feeble fascist brain? Maybe you should check your Mom's basement for illegals again.

I'll just put these here ...

Front Office Football Central - View Single Post - The Trump Presidency 2.0

Front Office Football Central - View Single Post - Trump's Immigration Reform
Front Office Football Central - View Single Post - Trump's Immigration Reform

Originally Posted by flere-imsaho

Oh bless, did I make you cry?

Nope. But I do worry about your TDS. This is clearly a person that you should NOT support since you are so worried about concentration camps.

Suggest you talk to someone about it.

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by Sweed

Bill Maher is a voice of reason and not afraid to hit, not only the right, but the left too. Of course, to the far left, that means he's a, take your pick, DINO, LINO, PINO . Pretty much the same as a conservative that isn't 100% MAGA, is a RINO.

Maher's words on many of the subjects discussed here would have members of this board contending he was MAGA and should just admit it. Oh yeah, and racist too.

To the far right he's just a Lib.

Uh, yeah. Here's your voice of reason:

Bill Maher | Factsheet: Islam, Muslims, Islamophobia

In a May 2010 interview with Anderson Cooper, Maher described Muslims as “threatening,” “bringing that desert stuff to our world,” and uncivilized. Cooper asked Maher if he bought the claim by Muslims that Islam is a religion of peace; Maher responded, “Yeah they blow you up, there’s a piece of you over there, there’s a piece of you over there, there’s a piece of you over there.”

Islam and Muslims are subjects that comes up frequently on “Real Time,” both in conversations with guests and in Maher’s closing monologue. In September 2014, for instance, Maher closed his show by arguing that the “Muslim world” has “too much in common with ISIS.”

In a March 2011 interview with Representative Keith Ellison, the first elected Muslim Member of the U.S. Congress, Maher referred to the Qur’an as a “hate filled Holy Book.” In the same interview, Maher described Islam as a “culture in its medieval era” and a “culture of suicide bombings,” disagreeing with Rep. Ellison’s statements to the contrary and instead referencing commentary by Sam Harris, who identifies as an atheist and is not a scholar of religions.

Maher also has a long history of using racial slurs as documented by ThinkProgress. In a June 2017 episode of his show, Maher responded to an invitation by his guest, U.S. Senator Ben Sasse from Nebraska, to “work in the fields with us” by stating ,“Work in the fields? Senator, I’m a house n*****.” An article in The Root also documented Maher’s repeated use of the n-word.

[HerRealName]

Originally Posted by Sweed

Bill Maher is a voice of reason and not afraid to hit, not only the right, but the left too. Of course, to the far left, that means he's a, take your pick, DINO, LINO, PINO . Pretty much the same as a conservative that isn't 100% MAGA, is a RINO.

Maher's words on many of the subjects discussed here would have members of this board contending he was MAGA and should just admit it. Oh yeah, and racist too.

To the far right he's just a Lib.

He's a moron Libertarian. I can't imagine why anyone would pay any attention to someone like him.

[RainMaker]

Originally Posted by Edward64

Yes, it would be good if a Lebanese doctor go back and work in Lebanon and help her people vs reaping the benefits of the US while being a hypocrite. We don't need that talent nor investment ... there's plenty of Indian & Chinese medical doctors ready to take her place and be good guests as they get their citizenship.

Why would Chinese and Indian doctors come to this country if they can be removed for liking a tweet the President disapproves of? It's not about removing one person, it's the chilling effect it has on anyone else who enters the country and dares hold a view opposing the ruling party. Why invest in this country if it can all be destroyed every 4 years based on the whims of the new President?

Originally Posted by Edward64

Lebanon repeatedly makes the US look "weak" and "humiliated"?

No, Israel does. This tiny ethnostate is in full control of our immigration policies. Absolutely humiliating for a so-called superpower.

Originally Posted by Edward64

As I've mentioned before, I'll need to understand if this is your opinion or if this is based on some factual basis (e.g. see Philippines is not a democracy and US is not decoupling from China).

You would think after the former President got arrested for crimes against humanity which included a plot to blow up Senators that oppose him and murdering those in regions where he doesn't have popular support would cause you to quietly not bring this up again. But imbeciles dig in when they're wrong.

[Edward64]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

Why would Chinese and Indian doctors come to this country if they can be removed for liking a tweet the President disapproves of? It's not about removing one person, it's the chilling effect it has on anyone else who enters the country and dares hold a view opposing the ruling party.

Why invest in this country if it can all be destroyed every 4 years based on the whims of the new President?

If you read the article, you'll know it was more than just liking a tweet.

Because the Chinese and Indian doctor are smart enough to know to keep any extremist views to themselves while going through the process. But if they aren't smart enough to do that, toss 'em. There's plenty other well educated immigrants willing to be good guests

No, Israel does. This tiny ethnostate is in full control of our immigration policies. Absolutely humiliating for a so-called superpower.

Weird. Some influence on our immigration policies specifically regarding Palestinians, Lebanese, I can agree to that. But .... "full control"? Another massive exaggeration.

But tell you what, I may be wrong. So, as always, if you have a non-twitter-like source that backs up your argument, link it ... otherwise I'll assume this is another one of your opinions based on your la-la reality (e.g. Philippines is not a Democracy, US is not decoupling from China, can confirm a JDAM by its acoustics over a YT video etc.)

[RainMaker]

archive.ph

It has been reported in America that, over the past two months, ICE has been preparing an operation to arrest pro-Palestinian activists. The agency even reportedly paused its human trafficking and drug smuggling investigations to have agents monitor social media for posts and likes from pro-Palestinian students.

Sorry, but when you're pausing immigration investigations into human trafficking and drug smuggling so you can throw out anyone who doesn't like Israel, you're just their bitch. Biden was incredibly weak as a President, but Trump might as well pull up a chair and let Netanyahu fuck his wife in front of him.

[Edward64]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

archive.ph

Sorry, but when you're pausing immigration investigations into human trafficking and drug smuggling so you can throw out anyone who doesn't like Israel, you're just their bitch. Biden was incredibly weak as a President, but Trump might as well pull up a chair and let Netanyahu fuck his wife in front of him.

Thanks for the link.

Like I said

Originally Posted by Edward64

Weird. Some influence on our immigration policies specifically regarding Palestinians, Lebanese, I can agree to that.

But .... "full control"? Another massive exaggeration.

[RainMaker]

Making it a prerequisite for talent to worship one of the most reviled countries in the world if you want to enter puts you at a massive disadvantage globally. Just another reason why this country continues to get cooked in science and technology of late. The American Great Leap Forward continues!

[Edward64]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

Making it a prerequisite for talent to worship one of the most reviled countries in the world if you want to enter puts you at a massive disadvantage globally. Just another reason why this country continues to get cooked in science and technology of late. The American Great Leap Forward continues!

I think I understand what you are saying. Instead of your original statement

No, Israel does. This tiny ethnostate is in full control of our immigration policies. Absolutely humiliating for a so-called superpower.

You really meant to say

No, Israel does. This tiny ethnostate is in full control of our immigration policies as it pertains to that Palestine/Lebanon. Absolutely humiliating for a so-called superpower.

Otherwise, your "full control of our immigration policies" makes little sense other than in your la-la land. For instance, what does our immigration action vs the Canada tattoo artist, or the German "I missed my court date" have anything to do with Israel?

But if you really meant your original, then your link doesn't support your position. I read it a couple times, if I'm wrong, post the article quote that supports "full control of our immigration policies (not limited to Palestine/Lebanon).

[GrantDawg]

Comiccon.com is warning comic book creators not to travel to the US because of stricter visa enforcement. Good to see the government cracking down on important things like stuff that brings people joy.
https://comicon.com/2025/03/18/fresh...canada-emerge/

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[Edward64]

Originally Posted by GrantDawg

Comiccon.com is warning comic book creators not to travel to the US because of stricter visa enforcement. Good to see the government cracking down on important things like stuff that brings people joy.
You are being redirected...

FWIW ...

There's an accurate quote in the article

Basically, people have been treating it as a grey area, and it’s never been a grey area — it’s just been stuff people have mostly got away with. The stakes are much higher now. I would advise against anyone doing a US con until things changes. (I mean, even if you got a visa, I’d advise against it.)

Comiccon is in Jul, so about 3.5 months away. There is absolutely a concern for creators/sales people who come on tourist visa but actually "sell or do work". Why should nerds get a pass. The solution is just get the "right" visa and maybe have to pay a little extra $.

Their legit concern is ... what is the right visa to get and is there time even with 3.5 months? The solution is Comiccon should reach out to Immigration and ask for clarification so they can tell their attendees what to get. I'd think Comiccon should have that information from past conferences and would have shared it already (but maybe not).

In my working life, my team members and I have done work in Canada, UK, France, Belgium, Hong Kong, China, Thailand, Philippines, Singapore and we had to get the appropriate short-term "working" visa (not a business meeting visa). I honestly don't remember it taking longer than 3-4 weeks at most. It's normal and the right thing to do.

And yeah, got a felony or drug use on record? Had some team members that asked for clarification from our internal department, we actually had to drop a couple from international assignments. In other words, pretty normal in my experience.

[flere-imsaho]

You are such an authoritarian fascist it's amazing.

[Edward64]

Originally Posted by flere-imsaho

You are such an authoritarian fascist it's amazing.

Go ahead, tell me how I'm an authoritarian fascist for my Comiccon response.


And in case you missed it and think I didn’t answer your question, see below.

Also, just wondering where your at on supporting someone that supports someone that will kill your family without much thought?

Originally Posted by Edward64

And you support a person that supports a person that would not hesitate to kill your family? What does that make you?

Originally Posted by flere-imsaho

No, I don't support JonInMiddleGA. Are you getting confused again? Is carrying on an argument too much for your feeble fascist brain? Maybe you should check your Mom's basement for illegals again.

Originally Posted by Edward64

I'll just put these here ...

Front Office Football Central - View Single Post - The Trump Presidency 2.0

Front Office Football Central - View Single Post - Trump's Immigration Reform
Front Office Football Central - View Single Post - Trump's Immigration Reform


Nope. But I do worry about your TDS. This is clearly a person that you should NOT support since you are so worried about concentration camps.

Suggest you talk to someone about it.

[GrantDawg]

It is not about just Comicon. There are thousands of little conventions that make little to no money, as well as thousands of small independent comic creators who lose money on their hobby. This is basically black-balling lots of those creators ever being able to get together with their fans. It is sad and pretty pathetic.

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[Edward64]

Originally Posted by GrantDawg

It is not about just Comicon. There are thousands of little conventions that make little to no money, as well as thousands of small independent comic creators who lose money on their hobby. This is basically black-balling lots of those creators ever being able to get together with their fans. It is sad and pretty pathetic.

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Not an immigration attorney but looks like B1 visa is what they need and it cost $185.

The B-1 visa is a nonimmigrant visa that allows foreign nationals to enter the United States temporarily for business activities, such as attending conferences, negotiating contracts, or consulting with business associates, but not for employment.

The fee for a B1 visa is $185, according to the U.S. Department of State. This fee applies to non-petition-based nonimmigrant visas, which includes B1 visas for business and tourism.

And yeah, there is additional bureaucracy involved ...

The processing time for a B-1 visa can vary, but generally, you can expect to wait 3-6 weeks after submitting your application and completing the visa interview at the embassy, though it can take longer, potentially up to three months or more.

[JPhillips]

You're convinced that there is a process that can be followed and will be honored, but we're seeing that that isn't true. The rules change from day to day. People are detained without process. There's no certainty that a person can do enough to be sure they won't be harassed or detained. Under those circumstances it's much safer to just not to come to the US.

[flere-imsaho]

Originally Posted by Edward64

Go ahead, tell me how I'm an authoritarian fascist for my Comiccon response.

Come now, your Comiccon response is not the only reason you're an authoritarian fascist. Don't sell yourself short.

And in case you missed it and think I didn’t answer your question, see below.

OK, so carrying on an argument is too much for your feeble brain. Got it.

Also, just wondering where your at on supporting someone that supports someone that will kill your family without much thought?

I already answered this: I don't support Jon. I get that it can be tough to switch to English after speaking Russian or Chinese all day, but do keep up.

[cuervo72]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

...it's much safer to just not to come to the US.

This. "Why would anyone risk going to {Russia|North Korea|Iran}? You know they might do anything to you." When there are multiple news reports of (pretty, white) Canadian and British women are being detained, we're basically there.

[Lathum]

Watching flere dog walk Edward is the content I’m here for.

[Edward64]

Originally Posted by flere-imsaho

Come now, your Comiccon response is not the only reason you're an authoritarian fascist. Don't sell yourself short.

As your insult came right after my Comiccon response to GD, I'd assume you were referring to that.

OK, so carrying on an argument is too much for your feeble brain. Got it.

I already answered this: I don't support Jon. I get that it can be tough to switch to English after speaking Russian or Chinese all day, but do keep up.

Okay, so for the 3rd time, being evasive and not willing to answer why you support someone that support someone that would kill your family without much thought.

Originally Posted by Edward64 View Post
And you support a person that supports a person that would not hesitate to kill your family? What does that make you?

Originally Posted by flere-imsaho View Post
No, I don't support JonInMiddleGA. Are you getting confused again? Is carrying on an argument too much for your feeble fascist brain? Maybe you should check your Mom's basement for illegals again.

Originally Posted by Edward64

I'll just put these here ...

Front Office Football Central - View Single Post - The Trump Presidency 2.0

Front Office Football Central - View Single Post - Trump's Immigration Reform
Front Office Football Central - View Single Post - Trump's Immigration Reform


Nope. But I do worry about your TDS. This is clearly a person that you should NOT support since you are so worried about concentration camps.

Suggest you talk to someone about it.

[Edward64]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

You're convinced that there is a process that can be followed and will be honored, but we're seeing that that isn't true. The rules change from day to day. People are detained without process. There's no certainty that a person can do enough to be sure they won't be harassed or detained. Under those circumstances it's much safer to just not to come to the US.

If you are referring to Comiccon ... if the process (and restrictions) are followed, application filled in properly, interview conducted etc. I don't see why it won't be honored?

If you are referring to the bigger picture of all legal travel into the US, I don't have the stats, but going to use the 80-20 rule (feel free to propose differently). The 80% of travelers into the US won't be questioned and will sail through.

The 20%, that have questionable situations, I agree should not travel into the US at this time. Off the top of my head, these include foreigners ...

• Here to work but don't have the proper visa
• From the list of 41 countries that may be banned or restricted
• Have questionable criminal histories
• Did not answer their application forms honestly
• Have attended the funeral of Nasrallah, lead protests, and similar type situations

[Edward64]

Originally Posted by Lathum

Watching flere dog walk Edward is the content I’m here for.

Welcome to stay as long as you want. He gets triggered pretty easily, so it'll be entertaining.

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by Edward64

If you are referring to Comiccon ... if the process (and restrictions) are followed, application filled in properly, interview conducted etc. I don't see why it won't be honored?

If you are referring to the bigger picture of all legal travel into the US, I don't have the stats, but going to use the 80-20 rule (feel free to propose differently). The 80% of travelers into the US won't be questioned and will sail through.

The 20%, that have questionable situations, I agree should not travel into the US at this time. Off the top of my head, these include foreigners ...

• Here to work but don't have the proper visa
• From the list of 41 countries that may be banned or restricted
• Have questionable criminal histories
• Did not answer their application forms honestly
• Have attended the funeral of Nasrallah, lead protests, and similar type situations

We sold people into slave labor without proof of any crimes or gang affiliation for many of them. The DOJ attorneys admitted there isn't any proof for a lot of the people sold to El Salvador.

[Edward64]

Originally Posted by Atocep

We sold people into slave labor without proof of any crimes or gang affiliation for many of them. The DOJ attorneys admitted there isn't any proof for a lot of the people sold to El Salvador.

I think we are referring to the approx 240 from past week. Can you provide a MSM, non-twitter-like source for above statement?

Specifically, I do know the Feds have not provided a list or the supposed crimes. I did not know they said "there isn't any proof".

[RainMaker]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

You're convinced that there is a process that can be followed and will be honored, but we're seeing that that isn't true. The rules change from day to day. People are detained without process. There's no certainty that a person can do enough to be sure they won't be harassed or detained. Under those circumstances it's much safer to just not to come to the US.

The irony is that these will be the same people crying about how we need to stay ahead of the world in technology and science.

Meanwhile:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/byd-chi...-five-minutes/

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by Edward64

I think we are referring to the approx 240 from past week. Can you provide a MSM, non-twitter-like source for above statement?

Specifically, I do know the Feds have not provided a list or the supposed crimes. I did not know they said "there isn't any proof".

https://abcnews.go.com/US/noncitizen...y?id=119912375

In a sworn declaration, ICE Acting Field Office Director of Enforcement and Removal Operations Robert Cerna argued that "the lack of specific information about each individual actually highlights the risk they pose" and "demonstrates that they are terrorists with regard to whom we lack a complete profile."

[cuervo72]

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/loc...302299534.html

"The Trump administration has admitted in federal court documents that “many” Venezuelans it accused of being dangerous gang members and deported through presidential wartime powers have no criminal records in the United States, but argued it was only because they had only been in the U.S. briefly. President Donald Trump used a centuries-old law, the 1798 Alien Enemies Act, to deport the Venezuelans without due process in the U.S., saying they were members of the feared Tren de Aragua gang. “The lack of criminal records does not indicate they pose a limited threat. In fact, based upon their association with Tren de Aragua, the lack of specific information about each specific individual actually highlights the risk they pose,” said Robert Cerna, a top Immigration and Customs Enforcement official, in a sworn statement filed Monday night to a the U.S. District Court in Washington D.C."

[Atocep]

What it comes down to is we sold slaves to El Salvador for $6 million.

[flere-imsaho]

Originally Posted by Edward64

As your insult came right after my Comiccon response to GD, I'd assume you were referring to that.

Please, my identification of you as an authoritarian fascist (and not even an entertaining one, like Jon), is based on the whole body of your work, not just one moment of posting stupidity. I am, unlike you, comprehensive in my approach.

Okay, so for the 3rd time, being evasive and not willing to answer why you support someone that support someone that would kill your family without much thought.

Again, I know English is tough for you, so let's be clear, I'm supporting due process in general, not the victim in particular. Allow me to ease your mental distress by re-quoting the key elements from the article:

defying a judge’s order blocking her immediate removal from the country

despite a judge’s order halting the flights

Originally Posted by Edward64

Welcome to stay as long as you want. He gets triggered pretty easily, so it'll be entertaining.

Ah, I see the disconnect. You are picturing me shouting "authoritarian fascist" with anger in my voice and spittle shooting from my mouth. Pretty standard GRU/MSS/SVR tactic, to frame your target as unhinged and unreliable, so as to undercut their arguments that you can't defeat in normal fashion.

No, you should picture me saying "authoritarian fascist" in a dismissive, disparaging, and weary tone, summarizing my (indeed, our) collective dismay at your continued water-carrying for modern-day Nazis.

An easy mistake to make in a text-only communication medium, so I am happy to magnanimously forgive you this time.

Though, to be clear, you are still a fascist cunt.