Werewolf LVI: Beneath the Iron Cross - GAME OVER, VILLAGERS WIN! - Page 24

Chief Rum · 10-09-2007, 01:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saldana

NTNdeacon, i guess this is for you since you are the only one i think i have a chance at convincing....did it strike you at all as odd that CR was no where to be found on the day of the render vote, then showed up in the last few minutes and made a deciding vote AGAINST a villager...are you just considering that to be a convenient moment when CR has barely been in the game for 4 days...

that moved screamed wolf at me at the time, as in, someone PM'ed or AIM'ed the chief and told him he needed to get in and vote, and who to vote for...he could never have read up fast enough to have known who to vote for unless someone told him.

I don't lie about out of game reasons. I was, as usual, at work all day this day and didn'y get home until around 5, where upon I tried to catch up reading the thread. I actually had to quit half way through to put a vote in.

saldana, read that day again. Not that it matters now. I am sure by the time this post is up, I'm either a goner or guys went another way. I said then that I could only read halfway through or so. I asked for a vote count. It was tied between Ant and Render. That was pretty much exactly the sentiment things were going toward at the point I stopped reading in the thread (about four pages or more back of the deadline). What exactly did I miss? I challenged everyone then to find if I missed something, and no one said anything then. It doesn't seem I missed a thing, and no one told me that but logic.

I have posts in the thread, too, that show I was in the thread a good hour-half hour before deadline, so it's not like I got some phantom PM and jumped in.

If, as I will soon discover, that I am hanged, you will all have made a horrible mistake, except for the wolf among you, who played it perfectly.

Chief Rum · 10-09-2007, 01:42 AM

Well, no shocker there. You almost must have thought I was the dumbest wolf around. Sad, really. Thinking I would be the hang vote on Render and the only non-vote on RealDeal as a WOLF would be about the stupidest wolf move of all time, and yet, for some reason, you thought I would be that dumb? Ugh.

Well, good luck, I guess. You guys get what you got coming for you.

Barkeep49 · 10-09-2007, 02:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saldana

i agree with you that there have been better targets than me on most nights, and that is likely why i am still here, but you know as well as i do that the "vet still alive" play has worked before...since it cant be used against you, i have been expecting it to be used against me..other than apparently misusing the word "solely", what have i danced around.

Well when I tried to nail you down on when you'd have been a better kill you basically avoided the question. That's how you've danced. If you're not the wolf, I'm sorry. But I've got to believe that you are.

jeheinz72 · 10-09-2007, 08:55 AM

crap crap crap.

hoopsguy · 10-09-2007, 10:35 AM

Since Neon has not yet posted, would there be any objections to me just picking the kill for the wolves and we keep the game moving?

I kid.

Neon_Chaos · 10-09-2007, 11:09 AM

Sorry for making you wait. Still in traiining. Results will be up next.

Neon_Chaos · 10-09-2007, 11:14 AM

Night 6:

You wake up and find that Antmeister is missing. You head to his room, and find his strangled body lying there. There is a hush as you take his body to the chamber. Neon Chaos analyzes his genetic makeup, and you wait.

DEGENETIZATION COMPLETE.
ANALYZING PARTICLES.
GENETICS CONFIRMED.
ANALYSIS COMPLETE.

SPECIMEN ANALYSIS: PROJECT - VILLAGER

CHAMBER RECHARGING.
EST. RECHARGE TIME: 9 HOURS.

HAVE A NICE DAY.

Another day begins...

Day 7 begins: Votes are due at 9:00 PM CST

Barkeep49 · 10-09-2007, 11:16 AM

Vote saldana

Barkeep49 · 10-09-2007, 11:17 AM

He didn't become any less of a wolf overnight.

Can I have a quick reminder: why is NTN in the CoT?

saldana · 10-09-2007, 11:18 AM

i guess that brings it down to me or jeheinz....hmmmm....what to do....what to do...

saldana · 10-09-2007, 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

He didn't become any less of a wolf overnight.

Can I have a quick reminder: why is NTN in the CoT?

he was the witness...he gave us hoops

saldana · 10-09-2007, 11:19 AM

vote jeheinz

ntndeacon · 10-09-2007, 11:31 AM

ok that is just a weird kill. I was really expecting to be dead. Or at least AC.

ntndeacon · 10-09-2007, 11:33 AM

Vote JEHeinz

ntndeacon · 10-09-2007, 11:43 AM

That is purely a vote on experience than anything else.

st.cronin · 10-09-2007, 11:53 AM

These games where I get lynched day 1 sure seem to last forever.

Passacaglia · 10-09-2007, 12:23 PM

I've been thinking the same thing.

Barkeep49 · 10-09-2007, 12:42 PM

NTN: Can you remind me why you're in the COT?

jeheinz72 · 10-09-2007, 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

NTN: Can you remind me why you're in the COT?

He was the witness who saw Hoops kill Brad

jeheinz72 · 10-09-2007, 12:50 PM

Well, it seems we caught a HUGE break. There are 5 people left, right:

BK - Holy Mark
AC - The Duke
NTN - The Witness

Me and Saldana - The Unknowns

Presuming none of the 3 with roles could have a 2nd role, saldana just chose WAY incorrectly.

First off, let me tell you, I'm the remaining unknown that is an inncocent. NTN, you say your vote is on experience, right? So who is more likely to have been the wolf that could pull off all of the directed hits to Villager roles, the uber-experienced Saldana, or me, who is playing in his 2nd game ever (losing the first horribly as a villager)?

Either way, it's irrelevant. Presuming you can't double-up roles, his picking Ant and not AC or NTN ended the game. You can kill me today if you want, but I'm innocent. Saldana is the wolf. Let's look at it this way.

You lynch me today, fine, whatever, I've done my part and I'll be on the winning team.

That will leave BK, AC, NTN and Saldana heading to the night. Saldana will off one of AC and NTN. That leaves BK, Saldana and someone else in the COT. Game set match. Even if I *was* the wolf, I'd be in the same position tomorrow (I'm not). So the game would be over.

It's pretty easy. Let's end this today boys. NTN, just change your vote and it's over.

jeheinz72 · 10-09-2007, 12:51 PM

Vote Saldana

Antmeister · 10-09-2007, 01:28 PM

I figured I would go sometime earlier, but not this point. Good luck villagers.

ArlingtonColt · 10-09-2007, 02:41 PM

Vote Saldana

ntndeacon · 10-09-2007, 03:43 PM

I have no problem with going with the crowd here.

ntndeacon · 10-09-2007, 03:44 PM

Unvote JEHeinz
Vote saldana

jeheinz72 · 10-09-2007, 03:47 PM

That should be game if everyone holds true.

Barkeep49 · 10-09-2007, 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeheinz72

That should be game if everyone holds true.

Yeah I agree. I think saldana wanted the game over which is why he killed Ant rather than someone in the COT.

saldana · 10-09-2007, 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Yeah I agree. I think saldana wanted the game over which is why he killed Ant rather than someone in the COT.

i didnt kill anyone...i thought we ended the game last night, but i assure you, lynching me is not going to end it tonight...i am a plain, boring, no pm receiving villager...this is a mistake.

for anyone other than barkeep, is there a reason you are voting me? if not rethink what you are doing...you are leaving a window open for jeheinz to squeeze his furry ass through. i am not going to get all bent out of shape, because dying for the village is something that i have done many times before, but i would be lying if i said it didnt bother me a little bit, considering i have made it this far, and been pretty helpful to our cause while doing it.

saldana · 10-09-2007, 07:50 PM

wow...i cant even get a response...

Barkeep49 · 10-09-2007, 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saldana

i didnt kill anyone...i thought we ended the game last night, but i assure you, lynching me is not going to end it tonight...i am a plain, boring, no pm receiving villager...this is a mistake.

for anyone other than barkeep, is there a reason you are voting me? if not rethink what you are doing...you are leaving a window open for jeheinz to squeeze his furry ass through. i am not going to get all bent out of shape, because dying for the village is something that i have done many times before, but i would be lying if i said it didnt bother me a little bit, considering i have made it this far, and been pretty helpful to our cause while doing it.

Actually as JH has pointed out if we kill you and JH is the wolf we still win. The problem is only if our COT is compromised. I don't believe it to be compromised so I think we'll win. It's just a matter of time.

saldana · 10-09-2007, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Actually as JH has pointed out if we kill you and JH is the wolf we still win. The problem is only if our COT is compromised. I don't believe it to be compromised so I think we'll win. It's just a matter of time.

and here is the thing i am not convinced of..particularly when it comes to you.

when i come up villager tonight, look real hard at barkeep tomorrow.

Barkeep49 · 10-09-2007, 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saldana

and here is the thing i am not convinced of..particularly when it comes to you.

when i come up villager tonight, look real hard at barkeep tomorrow.

And I could have been compromised as the holy mark, how? Oliegirl is confirmed as the Investigator. She says I'm the holy mark. The holy mark can not be killed let alone converted. Looking to me, is just, well, silly. Frankly, I just don't see, from the rules, how the COT could have been compromised. We all have roles. Being Unholy Mark seems to preculde having some other role. Either you or JH is the last wolf.

Neon_Chaos · 10-09-2007, 08:57 PM

Deadline

Neon_Chaos · 10-09-2007, 08:58 PM

In 3 minutes.

Neon_Chaos · 10-09-2007, 09:00 PM

Ok. Deadline now, for real. Votes being counted, writeup to follow

saldana · 10-09-2007, 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

And I could have been compromised as the holy mark, how? Oliegirl is confirmed as the Investigator. She says I'm the holy mark. The holy mark can not be killed let alone converted. Looking to me, is just, well, silly. Frankly, I just don't see, from the rules, how the COT could have been compromised. We all have roles. Being Unholy Mark seems to preculde having some other role. Either you or JH is the last wolf.

no one ever confirmed you were the holy mark.

all olie ever said was that you showed as a villager and had a role....we dont know for certain if the roles that were wolf-sympathetic would scan as villagers....the cultist is a villager, so is the unholy mark...neither of them has been found yet that we know of.

saldana · 10-09-2007, 09:02 PM

have fun tomorrow...remember what i just posted when you are still trying to find the last wolf...gl villagers.

Neon_Chaos · 10-09-2007, 09:04 PM

Day 7:

Saldana is the near-unanimous choice tonight. You feel confident that you are correct in your hunch tonight. Saldana says that he is innocent, and that you will all be proven wrong... Neon Chaos stuns him and places him inside the degentization chamber. A blinding flash of light... and you anxiously wait for the results...

DEGENETIZATION COMPLETE.
ANALYZING PARTICLES.
GENETICS CONFIRMED.
ANALYSIS COMPLETE.

SPECIMEN ANALYSIS: PROJECT - VILLAGER

CHAMBER RECHARGING.
EST. RECHARGE TIME: 9 HOURS.

HAVE A NICE DAY.

You are all shocked, and are in complete disbelief... night has fallen once again, you anticipate the worst tonight...

Night 7 begins: Night Actions are due at 10:00 AM CST

hoopsguy · 10-09-2007, 09:09 PM

No one here but us dead guys to gasp at the result.

path12 · 10-09-2007, 09:09 PM

Huh. Four dead guys and the GM in thread.

saldana · 10-09-2007, 09:11 PM

guess my fellow villagers were so foolishly confident that they didnt think they needed to be here.

Neon_Chaos · 10-09-2007, 09:12 PM

Heya dead guys.

Barkeep49 · 10-09-2007, 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saldana

no one ever confirmed you were the holy mark.

all olie ever said was that you showed as a villager and had a role....we dont know for certain if the roles that were wolf-sympathetic would scan as villagers....the cultist is a villager, so is the unholy mark...neither of them has been found yet that we know of.

Actually she did.

Quote:

Originally Posted by oliegirl

BK scanned as the Holy Mark...he's immune to Werewolf Attacks.

Good game JH, BTW. Not quite sure why you chose to off Ant though.

And if the COT has been compromised, well that sucks and I have major issues with the rule set descriptions but will congratulate the wolves on a game which they pulled out despite tremendous odds against them.

st.cronin · 10-09-2007, 09:15 PM

Teaser: In my next game as GM, dead players, both villagers and wolves, will still be able to post, analyze, persuade, etc.

Neon_Chaos · 10-09-2007, 09:26 PM

You are all woken up in the middle of the night to the sound of sirens. You don't know what the hell is going on. You run into the hall, and see that Neon Chaos' is buzzing and whirring busier than usual. You look at the screen.

ALERT.
ALERT.
ALERT.

WOLF VIRUS SCANNING.
CONTAMINATION: NON-EXISTENT

HATCH RELEASE PROCEDURES STARTED.

You hear the clicks and whir of gears. The roof moves, and it slowly opens up to a bright sky. You have survived seven nights beneath the Iron Cross... and now, you must survive the rest of your lives above it.

You turn around and hear beeps from Neon Chaos. His monitor lights up.

HAVE A NICE DAY.

Barkeep49 · 10-09-2007, 09:28 PM

hoopsguy · 10-09-2007, 09:29 PM

The collective village played a very solid game after Day 1.

Neon_Chaos · 10-09-2007, 09:31 PM

Alright guys. Game over. Results and Roles, which are also in Post #1

1. path12 - Seer, Killed Night 4
2. hoopsguy - Alpha Wolf, Lynched Day 3
3. saldana - Wolfling, Lynched Day 7
4. PurdueBrad - Seer, Killed Night 1
5. ArlingtonColt - Magistrate
6. st.cronin - Villager, Lynched Day 1
7. RendeR - Villager, Lynched Day 4
8. jeheinz72 - Villager
9. oliegirl - Inquisitive, Killed Night 5
10. DaddyTorgo - Herbalist, Killed Night 3
11. Antmeister - Villager, Killed Night 6
12. Chief Rum - Villager, Lynched Day 6
13. EagleFan - Brutal Wolf, Lynched by Duke Day 2
14. RealDeal - Wolfshade, Lynched Day 5
15. ntndeacon - Witness
16. Barkeep49 - Holy Mark
17. Passacaglia - Unholy Mark, Killed by Brutal Wolf Day 2

Barkeep49 · 10-09-2007, 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

The collective village played a very solid game after Day 1.

The collective villagers got lucky. I mean if AC doesn't hit the wolf with his duking we're looking at a very different game; one where the wolves win since they did so well at knocking out our roles.

saldana · 10-09-2007, 09:34 PM

wow...day two was the worst day in the history of wolfdom...we lost hoops to the witness, eagle to the duke, and the cursed to the brutal.

talk about a sucky day

Neon....you have path and brad listed as the seer...which one of them was the fool?

10-09-2007, 11:09 AM	#1156
Neon_Chaos Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Parañaque, Philippines	Sorry for making you wait. Still in traiining. Results will be up next. __________________ Come and see.

10-09-2007, 11:14 AM	#1157
Neon_Chaos Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Parañaque, Philippines	Night 6: You wake up and find that Antmeister is missing. You head to his room, and find his strangled body lying there. There is a hush as you take his body to the chamber. Neon Chaos analyzes his genetic makeup, and you wait. DEGENETIZATION COMPLETE. ANALYZING PARTICLES. GENETICS CONFIRMED. ANALYSIS COMPLETE. SPECIMEN ANALYSIS: PROJECT - VILLAGER CHAMBER RECHARGING. EST. RECHARGE TIME: 9 HOURS. HAVE A NICE DAY. Another day begins... Day 7 begins: Votes are due at 9:00 PM CST __________________ Come and see. Last edited by Neon_Chaos : 10-09-2007 at 11:14 AM.

10-09-2007, 11:53 AM	#1166
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	These games where I get lynched day 1 sure seem to last forever. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

10-09-2007, 01:28 PM	#1172
Antmeister Pro Starter Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: At the corner of Beat Street and Electric Avenue	I figured I would go sometime earlier, but not this point. Good luck villagers. __________________ "I'm ready to bury the hatchet, but don't fuck with me" - Schmidty "Box me once, shame on Skydog. Box me twice. Shame on me. Box me 3 times, just fucking ban my ass...." - stevew

10-09-2007, 08:57 PM	#1183
Neon_Chaos Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Parañaque, Philippines	Deadline __________________ Come and see.

10-09-2007, 01:42 AM	#1152
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	Well, no shocker there. You almost must have thought I was the dumbest wolf around. Sad, really. Thinking I would be the hang vote on Render and the only non-vote on RealDeal as a WOLF would be about the stupidest wolf move of all time, and yet, for some reason, you thought I would be that dumb? Ugh. Well, good luck, I guess. You guys get what you got coming for you.

10-09-2007, 08:55 AM	#1154
jeheinz72 Pro Rookie Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Fresno, CA	crap crap crap.

10-09-2007, 10:35 AM	#1155
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Since Neon has not yet posted, would there be any objections to me just picking the kill for the wolves and we keep the game moving? I kid.

10-09-2007, 11:16 AM	#1158
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	Vote saldana

10-09-2007, 11:17 AM	#1159
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	He didn't become any less of a wolf overnight. Can I have a quick reminder: why is NTN in the CoT?

10-09-2007, 11:18 AM	#1160
saldana Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bethlehem, Pa	i guess that brings it down to me or jeheinz....hmmmm....what to do....what to do...

10-09-2007, 11:19 AM	#1162
saldana Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bethlehem, Pa	vote jeheinz

10-09-2007, 11:31 AM	#1163
ntndeacon Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Alabama	ok that is just a weird kill. I was really expecting to be dead. Or at least AC.

10-09-2007, 11:33 AM	#1164
ntndeacon Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Alabama	Vote JEHeinz

10-09-2007, 11:43 AM	#1165
ntndeacon Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Alabama	That is purely a vote on experience than anything else.

10-09-2007, 12:23 PM	#1167
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	I've been thinking the same thing.

10-09-2007, 12:42 PM	#1168
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	NTN: Can you remind me why you're in the COT?

10-09-2007, 12:50 PM	#1170
jeheinz72 Pro Rookie Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Fresno, CA	Well, it seems we caught a HUGE break. There are 5 people left, right: BK - Holy Mark AC - The Duke NTN - The Witness Me and Saldana - The Unknowns Presuming none of the 3 with roles could have a 2nd role, saldana just chose WAY incorrectly. First off, let me tell you, I'm the remaining unknown that is an inncocent. NTN, you say your vote is on experience, right? So who is more likely to have been the wolf that could pull off all of the directed hits to Villager roles, the uber-experienced Saldana, or me, who is playing in his 2nd game ever (losing the first horribly as a villager)? Either way, it's irrelevant. Presuming you can't double-up roles, his picking Ant and not AC or NTN ended the game. You can kill me today if you want, but I'm innocent. Saldana is the wolf. Let's look at it this way. You lynch me today, fine, whatever, I've done my part and I'll be on the winning team. That will leave BK, AC, NTN and Saldana heading to the night. Saldana will off one of AC and NTN. That leaves BK, Saldana and someone else in the COT. Game set match. Even if I was the wolf, I'd be in the same position tomorrow (I'm not). So the game would be over. It's pretty easy. Let's end this today boys. NTN, just change your vote and it's over.

10-09-2007, 12:51 PM	#1171
jeheinz72 Pro Rookie Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Fresno, CA	Vote Saldana

10-09-2007, 02:41 PM	#1173
ArlingtonColt H.S. Freshman Team Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: arlington, tx	Vote Saldana

10-09-2007, 03:43 PM	#1174
ntndeacon Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Alabama	I have no problem with going with the crowd here.

10-09-2007, 03:44 PM	#1175
ntndeacon Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Alabama	Unvote JEHeinz Vote saldana

10-09-2007, 03:47 PM	#1176
jeheinz72 Pro Rookie Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Fresno, CA	That should be game if everyone holds true.

10-09-2007, 07:50 PM	#1179
saldana Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bethlehem, Pa	wow...i cant even get a response...

10-09-2007, 08:58 PM	#1184
Neon_Chaos Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Parañaque, Philippines	In 3 minutes. __________________ Come and see.

10-09-2007, 09:00 PM	#1185
Neon_Chaos Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Parañaque, Philippines	Ok. Deadline now, for real. Votes being counted, writeup to follow __________________ Come and see.

10-09-2007, 09:02 PM	#1187
saldana Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bethlehem, Pa	have fun tomorrow...remember what i just posted when you are still trying to find the last wolf...gl villagers.

10-09-2007, 09:04 PM	#1188
Neon_Chaos Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Parañaque, Philippines	Day 7: Saldana is the near-unanimous choice tonight. You feel confident that you are correct in your hunch tonight. Saldana says that he is innocent, and that you will all be proven wrong... Neon Chaos stuns him and places him inside the degentization chamber. A blinding flash of light... and you anxiously wait for the results... DEGENETIZATION COMPLETE. ANALYZING PARTICLES. GENETICS CONFIRMED. ANALYSIS COMPLETE. SPECIMEN ANALYSIS: PROJECT - VILLAGER CHAMBER RECHARGING. EST. RECHARGE TIME: 9 HOURS. HAVE A NICE DAY. You are all shocked, and are in complete disbelief... night has fallen once again, you anticipate the worst tonight... Night 7 begins: Night Actions are due at 10:00 AM CST __________________ Come and see.

10-09-2007, 09:09 PM	#1189
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	No one here but us dead guys to gasp at the result.

10-09-2007, 09:09 PM	#1190
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	Huh. Four dead guys and the GM in thread. __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

10-09-2007, 09:11 PM	#1191
saldana Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bethlehem, Pa	guess my fellow villagers were so foolishly confident that they didnt think they needed to be here.

10-09-2007, 09:12 PM	#1192
Neon_Chaos Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Parañaque, Philippines	Heya dead guys. __________________ Come and see.

10-09-2007, 09:15 PM	#1194
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	Teaser: In my next game as GM, dead players, both villagers and wolves, will still be able to post, analyze, persuade, etc. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

10-09-2007, 09:26 PM	#1195
Neon_Chaos Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Parañaque, Philippines	You are all woken up in the middle of the night to the sound of sirens. You don't know what the hell is going on. You run into the hall, and see that Neon Chaos' is buzzing and whirring busier than usual. You look at the screen. ALERT. ALERT. ALERT. WOLF VIRUS SCANNING. CONTAMINATION: NON-EXISTENT HATCH RELEASE PROCEDURES STARTED. You hear the clicks and whir of gears. The roof moves, and it slowly opens up to a bright sky. You have survived seven nights beneath the Iron Cross... and now, you must survive the rest of your lives above it. You turn around and hear beeps from Neon Chaos. His monitor lights up. HAVE A NICE DAY. __________________ Come and see.

10-09-2007, 09:28 PM	#1196
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	Huh?