ABA vs NBA:The Rivalry Begins

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"The ABA had a red, white and blue ball because I said it would have one. It was that simple. We wanted our own identity, and the ball is the symbol of basketball, isn't it? To this day, you ABA and people talk about the ball.

I admit that I had a personal beef about the brown ball. I remember sitting up in the balcony at some NBA games and I just couldn't see the darn thing that well. The arenas were darker then than they are now, and the ball just sort of blended into the background. When you watched a basketball game on television, that dirty brown ball didn't show up very well.

Okay, so I wanted a different color for our new league. Then I said, "What's the name of the league"

The American Basketball Association.

What's America's colors?

Red, white and blue.

So why not a red, white and blue ball?"

George Mikan, quoted in "Loose Balls: The Short, Wild Life of the American Basketball Association" by Terry Pluto, 1990.

[SelzShoes]

Since the All-American Football Conference is going to play a tangential part of the CIE world I thought it would be nice to sim the AAFC and NFL season. The QPFootball (the same one used by Wolfpack in his college football dynasty) game at tabletop-sports.com suited my needs for the gridiron, both pro and college. But I didn’t want just a QP game for basketball.

I’ve been aching to play a basketball game for years and the BAA and NBL seemed to be the way to satisfy my desire. Settling on Statis Pro Basketball (which I did play about 15 years ago) I started looking for stats so I could start making player cards. Then two things hit me:

One, I can’t hold up CIE for a basketball season. I go slow; it’s a fact. It would be 2009 before I start the 1947 baseball season.

Two, pre-shot clock basketball is boring.

Well, one thing the ABA years weren’t was boring—it was an easy pick. I’m not going to try to do a story for this thread; Terry Pluto’s Loose Balls is better than any fiction I can come up with. This is going to be more of a GM/Coach perspective on the Association.

A couple notes on how players were created. Instead of using “as played” stats; I decided to use a 3-year average for each player. The 1967-1968 player card is based on the 66-67, 67-68, and 68-69 seasons. I also made cards for players drafted in 1966 and 1967 who did not debut until after the 68-69 season (Mike Silliman was, for example, the Knicks 1966 8th round pick, but did not make the NBA until 1970 with the Braves). For statistics like blocks, turnovers, steals and 3-point shots career totals are prorated to the player card. I could be completely wrong in how I did some of this so this could just fall apart after a couple weeks.

I also have an aging/salary system set up which may or may not work.

So this may go nowhere, or I might be merging the NBA and ABA in a decade. We’ll have to see how far it goes.

[SelzShoes]

Rosters will be set at 11 for both Associations during the regular season. Players not in the 1967 drafts are assigned by the first team they appeared with in the 1967-1968 season.

Baltimore Bullets
Coach Gene Shue
Name		Height	Pos	Age
Johnny Egan 	5.11	G	28
Leroy Ellis 	6.10	C-F	26
Bob Ferry 	6.08	C-F	29
Gus Johnson 	6.06	F-C	31
Kevin Loughery 	6.03	G	26
Jack Marin 	6.07	F-G	22
Stan McKenzie 	6.05	F-G	22
Don Ohl 	6.03	G	30
Ray Scott 	6.09	F-C	28

Boston Celtics
Coach Bill Russell
Name		Height	Pos	Age
Wayne Embry 	6.08	C-F	29
John Havlicek 	6.05	F-G	26
Johnny Jones 	6.07	F	23
Don Nelson 	6.06	F	26
Bailey Howell 	6.07	F	30
Sam Jones 	6.04	G-F	33
Bill Russell 	6.09	C	32
Larry Siegfried 6.03	F	27
Thomas Sanders 	6.06	F	28
Tom Thacker 	6.02	G-F	27

Cincinnati Royals
Coach Ed Jucker
Name		Height	Pos	Age
Len Chappell 	6.08	F-C	26
Connie Dierking 6.09	C-F	30
Bill Dinwiddie 	6.07	F	23
Jim Fox 	6.10	C-F	23
Happy Hairston  6.07	F	24
Al Jackson 	6.01	G	23
Bob Love 	6.08	F	24
Jerry Lucas 	6.08	F-C	26
Oscar Robertson 6.05	G-F	28
Flynn Robinson 	6.01	G	25
Adrian Smith 	6.01	G	30
Walt Wesley 	6.11	C	22

Detroit Pistons
Coach Donnis Butcher
Name		 Height	Pos	Age
Dave DeBusschere 6.06	F-G	26
Dave Bing  	 6.03	G	23
Terry Dischinger 6.07	F-G	26
Eddie Miles 	 6.04	G-F	26
George Patterson 6.08	C-F	27
Joe Strawder 	 6.10	C	26
John Tresvant 	 6.07	F-C	27
Tom Van Arsdale  6.05	F-G	23

New York Knickerbockers
Coach Dick McGuire
Name		 Height	Pos	Age
Dick Barnett 	 6.04	G-F	30
Walt Bellamy 	 6.11	C	27
Nate Bowman 	 6.10	C	23
Bill W. Bradley  6.05	F-G	23
Emmette Bryant 	 6.01	G	28
Jim Caldwell 	 6.10	C	24
Fred Crawford 	 6.04	G-F	25
Neil Johnson 	 6.07	F-C	23
Howard Komives 	 6.01	G	25
Willis Reed  	 6.09	C-F	24
Cazzie Russell 	 6.05	F-G	22
Dick Van Arsdale 6.05	G-F	23

Philadelphia 76ers--1966-1967 NBA Champions
Coach Alex Hannum
Name		 Height	Pos	Age
Wilt Chamberlain 7.01	C	30
Larry Costello 	 6.01	G	35
Billy Cunningham 6.06	F-C	23
Hal Greer 	 6.02	G-F	30
Matt Guokas 	 6.05	G-F	22
Lucious Jackson  6.09	F-C	25
Wali Jones 	 6.02	G	24
Bill Melchionni  6.01	G	22
Jim Reid 	 6.06	F	21
Chet Walker 	 6.06	F-G	26

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Chicago Bulls
Coach Red Kerr
Name		Height	Pos	Age
Bob Boozer  	6.08	F	29
Barry Clemens 	6.06	F	23
Keith Erickson 	6.05	F-G	22
Reggie Harding 	7.00	C	24
McCoy McLemore 	6.07	F-C	24
Erwin Mueller 	6.08	C-F	22
Guy Rodgers 	6.00	G	31
Dave Schellhase 6.03	G	22
Jerry Sloan 	6.05	G-F	24
Craig Spitzer 	7.00	C	21
Jim Washington 	6.06	F-C	23
Ken Wilburn 	6.06	F	22

Los Angeles Lakers
Coach Bill Van Breda Kolff
Name		Height	Pos	Age
Jim Barnes 	6.08	C-F	25
Elgin Baylor 	6.05	F	32
Archie Clark 	6.02	G	25
Mel Counts 	7.00	C-F	25
Gail Goodrich 	6.01	G	23
Dennis Hamilton 6.08	F	22
Tom Hawkins 	6.05	F	30
Darrall Imhoff 	6.10	C	28
Jerry West  	6.02	G-F	28
John Wetzel 	6.05	G-F	22

Saint Louis Hawks
Coach Richie Guerin
Name		Height	Pos	Age
Zelmo Beaty  	6.09	C	27
Bill Bridges 	6.06	F-C	27
Joe Caldwell 	6.05	F-G	25
Jim Davis 	6.09	C-F	25
Richie Guerin 	6.04	G	34
Lou Hudson 	6.05	F-G	22
George Lehmann 	6.00	G	24
Jay Miller 	6.05	F	23
Paul Silas 	6.07	F-C	23
Dick Snyder 	6.05	G-F	23
Gene Tormohlen 	6.08	C-F	29
Lenny Wilkens 	6.01	G	29

San Diego Rockets
Coach Jack McMahon
Name		Height	Pos	Age
Charles Acton 	6.06	F	25
Jim Barnett 	6.04	G-F	22
John Barnhill 	6.01	G	28
John Block 	6.09	F-C	22
Tyrone Britt 	6.04	G	22
Hank Finkel 	7.00	C	24
Dave Gambee 	6.06	F	29
Johnny Green 	6.05	F-C	33
Toby Kimball 	6.06	F-C	24
Jon McGlocklin 	6.05	G-F	23
Jim Ware 	6.07	F	22
Arthur Williams 6.01	G	27

San Francisco Warriors
Coach Bill Sharman
Name		Height	Pos	Age
Alvin Attles 	6.00	G	30
Joe Ellis 	6.06	F-G	22
Fred Hetzel 	6.08	F-C	24
Jim King 	6.02	G	25
Rudy LaRusso 	6.07	F-C	29
Clyde Lee 	6.10	F-C	22
George Lee 	6.04	F-G	30
Jeff Mullins 	6.04	G-F	24
Nate Thurmond 	6.11	C-F	25
Bob Warlick 	6.05	G-F	25

Seattle SuperSonics
Coach Al Bianchi
Name		Height	Pos	Age
Henry Akin 	6.10	C-F	22
Walt Hazzard 	6.02	G	24
Tom Kron 	6.05	G	23
Tom Meschery 	6.06	F	28
Dorie Murrey 	6.08	F-C	23
Enoch Olsen 	6.08	F-C	26
Rod Thorn 	6.04	G	25
Bob Weiss 	6.02	G	24
George Wilson 	6.08	C	24

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For purposes of this dynasty, Rick Barry won his case against the reserve clause. No player will have to sit out a season if they jump leagues.

Indiana Pacers
Coach Larry Staverman
Name		Height	Pos	Age
Ron Bonham 	6.05	F	24
Roger A. Brown 	6.05	F-G	24
Oliver Darden 	6.07	F-C	22
Bobby Edmonds 	6.06	F	25
Jerry Harkness 	6.02	G	26
Freddie Lewis 	6.00	G	23
George Peeples 	6.07	C-F	23
Jim Rayl 	6.02	G	25

Kentucky Colonels
Coach John Givens
Name		Height	Pos	Age
Howard Bayne 	6.06	F	24
Orbie Bowling 	6.10	C	27
Bill Bradley 	5.11	G	25
Darel Carrier 	6.03	G	26
Larry Conley 	6.03	G	23
David Gaines 	6.01	G	24
Stew Johnson 	6.08	F-C	22
Goose Ligon 	6.07	F-C	22
Charles Nash 	6.05	F	24
Bobby Rascoe 	6.04	G-F	26
Kendall Rhine 	6.10	C	23
Joe Roberts 	6.06	F	30
George Sutor 	6.08	C	23
Tommy Woods 	6.07	F	23

Minnesota Muskies
Coach Jim Pollard
Name		Height	Pos	Age
Dick Clark 	6.04	G	23
Donnie Freeman 	6.03	G	22
Les Hunter 	6.07	F-C	24
Terry Kunze 	6.04	G-F	23
Skip Thoren 	6.10	C	23

New Jersey Americans
Coach Max Zaslofsky
Name		Height	Pos	Age
Dan W. Anderson 6.10	C	23
John Austin 	6.00	G	22
Al Beard 	6.09	C	24
Art Heyman 	6.05	F-G	25
Tony Jackson 	6.04	F-G	24
John Mathis 	6.06	F	23
Bob McIntyre 	6.06	F	23
Mel Nowell 	6.02	G	27
Walt Simon 	6.06	F-G	27
Bruce Spraggins 6.05	F	26
Levern Tart 	6.02	G-F	24
Hank Whitney 	6.07	F-C	27

Pittsburgh Pipers
Coach Vince Cazzetta
Name		 Height	Pos	Age
Cal Graham 	 6.02	G	22
Connie Hawkins	 6.08	F-C	24
Bob Hogsett 	 6.07	F	26
Jim Jarvis 	 6.01	G	23
Tom Kerwin 	 6.07	F	22
Bill Meyer 	 6.03	G	23
Rich Parks 	 6.07	F	23
John Postley 	 6.05	F	26
Steve Vacendak 	 6.01	G	22
Charles Vaughn   6.02	G	26
Charlie Williams 6.00	G	23
Leroy Wright 	 6.09	F	28

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Anahiem Amigos
Coach Al Brightman
Name		Height	Pos	Age
Bill Allen 	6.08	C-F	21
Bob Bedell 	6.07	F	22
Steve Chubin 	6.02	G	22
Jeff Congdon 	6.01	G	23
Bill Crow 	6.01	G	26
Warren Davis 	6.06	F-C	23
Harry Dinnel 	6.04	F-G	25
John Fairchild 	6.08	F	23
Bill Garner 	6.10	C	26
Steve Kramer 	6.05	G-F	22
Larry Moore 	6.07	F	22
Paul Scranton 	6.05	F	22
Les Selvage 	6.01	G	23
Bob Sims 	6.05	G-F	28
Randy Stoll 	6.07	C	21
Willis Thomas 	6.02	G	29
Herschel Turner 6.02	G	28
Ben Warley 	6.05	F-G	30

Dallas Chaparrals
Coach Cliff Hagan
Name		  Height Pos	Age
John Beasley 	  6.09	 F-C	22
Mike Dabich 	  7.00	 C	24
Cliff Hagan 	  6.04	 F-G	35
Carroll Hooser 	  6.07	 F	22
Riney Lochmann 	  6.06	 F	22
Elton McGriff 	  6.09	 C	24
Maurice McHartley 6.03	 G-F	24
Richard Peek 	  6.11	 C	23
Cincy Powell 	  6.07	 F-C	24
Gene Wiley 	  6.10	 C	29
Bob Wilson 	  6.08	 F	22

Denver Rockets
Coach Bob Bass
Name		Height	Pos	Age
Tom Bowens 	6.08	F-C	26
Chuck Gardner 	6.08	F	22
Julian Hammond  6.05	F	23
Wayne Hightower 6.08	F-C	27
Tom Hoover 	6.09	C	26
Ron Horn 	6.07	F	28
Larry Jones  	6.02	G-F	24
R. B. Lynam 	6.01	G	22
Willie Murrell 	6.06	F	25
Grant Simmons 	6.03	G	23
Lonnie Wright 	6.02	G	23

Houston Mavericks
Coach Slater Martin
Name		Height	Pos	Age
Art Becker 	6.07	F	25
Wilbert Frazier 6.07	C-F	24
Joe Hamood 	6.00	G	23
Leary Lentz 	6.06	F	21
Dewitt Menyard 	6.10	C	22
Wayne Molis 	6.08	F	23
Roger Schurig 	6.03	G	24
Willie Somerset 5.08	G	25
Gary Turner 	6.07	F	21

New Orleans Buccaneers
Coach Babe McCarthy
Name		Height	Pos	Age
Jesse Branson 	6.07	F	25
Larry Brown 	5.09	G	26
John Comeaux 	6.05	F	23
Gerald Govan 	6.10	F-C	25
Leland Mitchell 6.04	G	25
Doug Moe 	6.05	F-G	28
Jackie Moreland 6.07	F-G	28
Austin Robbins 	6.08	F-C	22
Red Stroud 	6.00	G	25

Oakland Oaks
Coach Bruce Hale
Name		Height	Pos	Age
Rick Barry  	6.07	F	22
Gary Bradds 	6.08	F	24
Jim Hadnot 	6.10	C-F	27
Ira Harge 	6.09	C	25
Steve Jones 	6.05	G-F	24
Dave Lee 	6.07	F	24
Mel Peterson 	6.04	G-F	28
Willie Porter 	6.07	F	24

Draft results are next

[SelzShoes]

1967 NBA Draft

Notes: This is the only draft in the dynasty I plan on using actual results. Only players who made the NBA/ABA are listed

Round 1
Pick	Team			Player		College
1.	Detroit Pistons		Jimmy Walker	Providence College
2.	Baltimore Bullets	Earl Monroe	Winston-Salem State University
3.	Chicago Bulls		Clem Haskins	Western Kentucky University
4.	Detroit Pistons		Lloyd Dove	St. John's University
5.	New York Knickerbockers	Walt Frazier	Southern Illinois University
6.	Seattle Supersonics	Al Tucker	Oklahoma Baptist University
7.	San Diego Rockets	Pat Riley	University of Kentucky
8.	St. Louis Hawks		Tom Workman	Seattle University
9.	Cincinnati Royals	Mel Daniels	University of New Mexico
10.	San Francisco Warriors	Dave Lattin	University of Texas at El Paso
11.	Boston Celtics		Mal Graham	New York University
12.	Philadelphia 76ers	Craig Raymond	Brigham Young University
Round 2
Pick	Team			Player			College
1.	Baltimore Bullets	Jimmy Jones		Grambling State University
2.	Detroit Pistons
3.	Chicago Bulls		Byron Beck		University of Denver
4.	Los Angeles Lakers	Randolph Mahaffey	Clemson University
5.	New York Knickerbockers	Phil Jackson		University of North Dakota
6.	San Diego Rockets	Bob Netolicky		Drake University
7.	Seattle Supersonics	Bob Rule		Colorado State University
Round 3
Pick	Team			Player		College
1.	Baltimore Bullets	
2.	Detroit Pistons		Darrell Hardy	Baylor University
3.	Chicago Bulls	J	ohn Dickson	Arkansas State University
4.	Los Angeles Lakers	
5.	New York Knickerbockers	Gary Gregor	University of South Carolina
6.	St. Louis Hawks		Bob Verga	Duke University
7.	Cincinnati Royals	Gary Gray	Oklahoma City University
8.	San Francisco Warriors	Bill Turner	University of Akron
9.	Cincinnati Royals	Sam Smith	Kentucky Wesleyan College
10.	San Diego Rockets	Richard Moore	Hiram Scott College
11.	Seattle Supersonics	
12.	San Diego Rockets	Nick Jones	University of Oregon
Round 4
Pick	Team			Player		College
1.	Baltimore Bullets	Al Salvadori	University of South Carolina
2.	Detroit Pistons		Ronald Franz	University of Kansas
3.	Chicago Bulls		Jim Burns	Northwestern University
4.	Los Angeles Lakers	Cliff Anderson	Saint Joseph's University
5.	New York Knickerbockers	Keith Swagerty	University of the Pacific
6.	St. Louis Hawks		Wes Bialosuknia	University of Connecticut
7.	Cincinnati Royals	Louie Dampier	University of Kentucky
8.	San Francisco Warriors	Bobby Lewis	University of North Carolina
9.	Boston Celtics	
10.	San Diego Rockets	Ronald Kozlicki	Northwestern University
11.	San Diego Rockets	Craig Dill	University of Michigan
12.	Seattle Supersonics	Larry Bunce	Utah State University
Round 5
Pick	Team			Player			College
1.	Baltimore Bullets	Dexter Westbrook	Providence College
2.	Detroit Pistons		Paul Long		Wake Forest University
3.	Chicago Bulls	
4.	Los Angeles Lakers	
5.	New York Knickerbockers	Barry Leibowitz		Long Island University
6.	St. Louis Hawks	
7.	Cincinnati Royals	Trooper Washington	Cheyney University of Pennsylvania
8.	San Francisco Warriors	Mike Lynn		University of California, Los Angeles
9.	Boston Celtics	
10.	Philadelphia 76ers	
11.	Seattle Supersonics	Plummer Lott	Seattle University
12.	San Diego Rockets	
Round 6
Pick	Team			Player		College
1.	Baltimore Bullets	Bob Reidy	Duke University
2.	Detroit Pistons	
3.	Chicago Bulls		Marlbert Pradd	Dillard University
4.	Los Angeles Lakers	Gary Keller	University of Florida
5.	New York Knickerbockers	
6.	St. Louis Hawks		John Morrison	Canisius College
7.	Cincinnati Royals	
8.	San Francisco Warriors	Dale Schlueter	Colorado State University
9.	Boston Celtics	
10.	Philadelphia 76ers	
11.	San Diego Rockets	
12.	Seattle Supersonics	
Round 7
Pick	Team			Player		College
1.	Baltimore Bullets	Ron Perry	Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University
2.	Detroit Pistons		Bobby Lloyd	Rutgers University
3.	Chicago Bulls	
4.	Los Angeles Lakers	
5.	New York Knickerbockers	
6.	St. Louis Hawks		Carl Fuller	Bethune-Cookman College
7.	Cincinnati Royals	Charles Beasley	Southern Methodist University
8.	San Francisco Warriors	
9.	Boston Celtics		Edgar Lacy	University of California, Los Angeles
10.	Philadelphia 76ers	Frank Card	South Carolina State University
11.	Seattle Supersonics	
12.	San Diego Rockets	
Round 8
Pick	Team			Player		College
1.	Baltimore Bullets	Ed Manning	Jackson State University
2.	Detroit Pistons		George Carter	St. Bonaventure University
3.	Chicago Bulls	
4.	Los Angeles Lakers	Don Carlos	Otterbein College
5.	New York Knickerbockers	
6.	St. Louis Hawks		Arvesta Kelly	Lincoln University of Missouri
7.	Cincinnati Royals	
8.	San Francisco Warriors	
9.	Boston Celtics		Andrew Anderson	Canisius College
10.	Philadelphia 76ers	
11.	San Diego Rockets	
12.	Seattle Supersonics	
Round 9
Pick	Team			Player			College
1.	Baltimore Bullets	
2.	Chicago Bulls	
3.	Los Angeles Lakers	
4.	New York Knickerbockers	
5.	St. Louis Hawks		Ed Biedenbach		North Carolina State University
6.	Cincinnati Royals	
7.	San Francisco Warriors
8.	Boston Celtics	
9.	Philadelphia 76ers	Ron Filipek		Tennessee Technological University
10.	Seattle Supersonics	Roderick McDonald	Whitworth
11.	San Diego Rockets	
Round 10
Pick	Team			Player		College
1.	Baltimore Bullets	
2.	Chicago Bulls	
3.	Los Angeles Lakers	
4.	New York Knickerbockers	
5.	St. Louis Hawks	
6.	Cincinnati Royals	Willie Davis	North Texas State University
7.	San Francisco Warriors	
8.	Boston Celtics		Rick Weitzman	Northeastern University
9.	Philadelphia 76ers	
10.	San Diego Rockets	
11.	Seattle Supersonics	
Round 11
Pick	Team			Player		College
1.	Baltimore Bullets	
2.	Chicago Bulls	
3.	Los Angeles Lakers	
4.	New York Knickerbockers	
5.	Cincinnati Royals	
6.	San Francisco Warriors	
7.	Boston Celtics	
8.	Philadelphia 76ers	
9.	Seattle Supersonics	
10.	San Diego Rockets	
Round 12
Pick	Team			Player	College
1.	Baltimore Bullets	 
2.	Detroit Pistons	
3.	Chicago Bulls		Ron Widby	University of Tennessee
4.	Los Angeles Lakers	
5.	New York Knickerbockers	Mike Riordan	Providence College
6.	Cincinnati Royals	
7.	San Francisco Warriors	
8.	Philadelphia 76ers	
9.	San Diego Rockets	
10.	Seattle Supersonics	Rubin Russell	North Texas State University
Round 13
Pick	Team			Player		College
1.	Baltimore Bullets	
2.	Detroit Pistons		Matthew Aitch	Michigan State University
3.	Chicago Bulls	
4.	Los Angeles Lakers	
5.	Cincinnati Royals	
6.	Philadelphia 76ers	
7.	Seattle Supersonics	
8.	San Diego Rockets	
Round 14
Pick	Team			Player		College
1.	Baltimore Bullets	
2.	Chicago Bulls	
3.	Cincinnati Royals	Jerry Pettway	Northwood Institute
4.	Philadelphia 76ers	
5.	San Diego Rockets	
6.	Seattle Supersonics	
Round 15
Pick	Team			Player		College
1.	Baltimore Bullets	Rich Peek	Louisiana Tech University
2.	Chicago Bulls	
3.	Cincinnati Royals	
4.	Philadelphia 76ers	
5.	Seattle Supersonics	
Round 16
Pick	Team			Player		College
1.	Baltimore Bullets	
2.	Chicago Bulls		Jimmy Dawson	University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
3.	Cincinnati Royals	
4.	Philadelphia 76ers	Wayne Chapman	Western Kentucky University
Round 17
Pick	Team			Player		College
1.	Baltimore Bullets	
2.	Cincinnati Royals	
3.	Philadelphia 76ers	
Round 18
Pick	Team			Player		College
1.	Baltimore Bullets	
Round 19
Pick	Team			Player		College
1.	Baltimore Bullets	
Round 20
Pick	Team			Player		College
1.	Baltimore Bullets	Roland West	University of Cincinnati

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Generally speaking, the ABA did not list the round a player was picked in; instead they released a complete list of draftees.

Team  	Name  			College/HS/Country
ANA 	Darrell Hardy 		Baylor
ANA 	Bob Lewis 		North Carolina
ANA 	Mike Lynn 		UCLA
ANA 	Tom Workman 		Seattle
ANA 	Denny Holman 		Southern Methodist
ANA 	Edgar Lacy 		UCLA
DEN 	Walt Frazier 		Southern Illinois
DEN 	Bob Rule 		Colorado State University
DEN 	Gary Keller 		Florida
DEN 	Byron Beck 		Denver
DEN 	Dave Lattin 		Texas Western
DEN 	John Morrison 		Canisius
DEN 	Bill Turner 		Akron
DAL 	Matt Aitch 		Michigan State
DAL 	Jim Burns 		Northwestern
DAL 	Gary Gray 		Oklahoma City
DAL 	Pat Riley 		Kentucky
HOU 	Bob Riedy 		Duke
HOU 	Keith Swagerty 		Pacific
HOU 	Don Carlos 		Otterbein
HOU 	Hal Hale 		Utah State
HOU 	Guy Manning 		Prairie View
HOU 	Jerry Pettway 		Northwood Institute
HOU 	Dale Schlueter 		Colorado State
IND 	Charles Beasley 	Southern Methodist
IND 	Jim Dawson 		Illinois
IND 	Craig Dill 		Michigan
IND 	Bob Netolicky 		Drake
IND 	Jim Walker 		Providence
IND 	Ron Kozlicki 		Northwestern
KEN 	Louie Dampier 		Kentucky
KEN 	Clem Haskins 		Western Kentucky
KEN 	Bob Verga 		Duke
KEN 	Randy Mahaffey 		Clemson
MIN 	Mel Daniels 		New Mexico
MIN 	Phil Jackson 		North Dakota
MIN 	Bob Lloyd 		Rutgers
MIN 	Sam Smith 		Kentucky Western
MIN 	Gary Gregor 		South Carolina
MIN 	Erv Inniger 		Indiana
MIN 	Rich Jones 		Illinois
MIN 	Errol Palmer 		DePaul
MIN 	Ron Perry 		Virginia Poly Institute
NJA 	Lloyd Dove 		St. John's
NJA 	Mal Graham 		New York University
NJA 	George Stone 		Marshall
NJA 	Harry Laurie 		St. Peters (NJ)
NOB 	John Dickson 		Arkansas State
NOB 	James Jones 		Grambling
NOB 	Paul Long 		Wake Forest
NOB 	Ron Widby 		Tennessee.
NOB 	George Carter 		St. Bonaventure
NOB 	Dexter Westbrook 	Providence
OAK 	Wes Bialosuknia 	Connecticut
OAK 	Richie Moore 		Hiram Scott
OAK 	Al Salvadori 		South Carolina
OAK 	Al Tucker 		Oklahoma Baptist
OAK 	Mike Davis 		Virginia Union
OAK 	Ron Franz 		Kansas
OAK 	Marlbert Pradd 		Dillard
PIT 	Cliff Anderson 		St. Joseph's (PA)
PIT 	Barry Liebowitz 	Long Island
PIT 	Earl Monroe 		Winston-Salem
PII 	Craig Raymond 		Brigham Young
PIT 	Tom Washington 		Cheyney State
PIT	Frank Card 		North Carolina A&T
PIT 	Mike Riordan 		Providence

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Cliff Williams 	G	6.03	21
Doug Sims 	F	6.07	23
Richard Nemelka	G	6.00	24
Mike Silliman	F	6.06	22
John Clawson 	F	6.04	22
Jay Carty 	F	6.08	25
Bill McGill 	C-F	6.09	27
Lonnie Lynn	F	6.07	23
Willis Bennett 	G	6.03	23
Paul Neumann 	G	6.01	29
Dave Stallworth F-C	6.07	25
Dave Deutsch 	G	6.01	21
Jerry Chambers 	F	6.05	23
Gerry Ward 	G	6.04	25
Ron Reed 	F	6.05	24
Ron Watts 	F	6.06	23

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I'm planning on playing an "exhibition" season this weekend to refamilarize myself with Statis Pro and make some roster decisions.

I will be using the actual "as played" schedules for both league when I begin the regular season. I should get this started by next weekend.

[SFL Cat]

Loved the ABA. I remember my dad taking me to Kentucky Colonel games when I was a kid living in Louisville.

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Originally Posted by SFL Cat

Loved the ABA. I remember my dad taking me to Kentucky Colonel games when I was a kid living in Louisville.

If you haven't checked out SFL Cat's "Sports and History" thread--do it now.

I don't have any direct memories of the ABA (the only pro game I've ever been to was a KC Kings/Chicago Bulls exhibition game--and that was to see ex-Illini Eddie Johnson), but I do remember only wanting to watch basketball if Dr. J was involved. I also remember his great Converse Ads ("Are you wearing magic shoes?") and those really bad "Dr. Chapstick" ads.

I did run a couple exhibition games last night and I need to make a couple changes. I severely undervauled 3-point attempts and probably should have prorated steals, blocks and turnovers on a per-minute basis and not a pre-game average. I'm definately making the changes for the 3-point attempts, but might leave the other stats alone.

[SelzShoes]

The wife is going to LA this week for her job, so I should be able to get most of the exhibition schedule done while she is gone. I made the corrections to the 3-point attempts, steals and blocks and they at least look more accurate than the first batch I made.

For the exhibition season, it will be assumed all games are on neutral courts with Fast Break Offenses set to B and Fast Break Defenses set to C. Stamina (total of Fouls, Field Goal Attempts, and Rebounds) of players will be capped at 20. Also, any "ignore Stamina" for players at 20 or above will be ignored.

The ABA used a 30 second shot clock for all but its last season; for simplicity sake, both Associations will have a 24 second clock in my replay.

Exhibition Basketball tips-off when I get back from taking the wife to the airport.

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Best laid plans and what not. Setting up the stat sheets and some other 'bookkeeping' items were more involved than I thought they would be. But the games are getting played faster and faster as I move on. Scoring is lower in games since scrubs are getting a good hunk of PT.

BOS 81
CHI 79

BAL 56
SEA 87

CIN 87
LAL 100

DET 84
SLH 112

NYK 110
SDR 112 (Rookie Pat Riley hit the game winner as time expired)

PHI 94
SFW 77