I believe in... (Conspiracy Theory edition)

sabotai · 10-10-2005, 03:53 PM

Ok....I swear....this time I will get it right. And learn to wait for the fucking poll people.

sachmo71 · 10-10-2005, 03:55 PM

Nothing. I accept everything spoon-fed to me by my government and media.

stevew · 10-10-2005, 04:01 PM

I believe you have my stapler

http://staplercalledlove.ytmnd.com/

Ben E Lou · 10-10-2005, 04:17 PM

It was revealed to me down in my soul.
There were two shooters on the grassy knoll.
We never walked on the moon.
Elvis ain't dead. You ain't goin' crazy.
It's all in your head.

KWhit · 10-10-2005, 04:21 PM

None of the above you psychos.

FF · 10-10-2005, 04:22 PM

last fall i remember watching a docu on IFC about the possibility of aids being brought along by a polio(? i think) vaccine. i cant remember the name of the documentary though...

SFL Cat · 10-10-2005, 04:47 PM

The Truth Is Out There.

Ben E Lou · 10-10-2005, 04:52 PM

I believe I can fly.
I believe I can touch the sky.
I think about it every night and day.
Spread my wings then fly away.
I believe I can soar
See me runnin' through that open door.
I believe I can fly. I believe I can fly.
I believe I can fly.

Blackadar · 10-10-2005, 04:55 PM

I believe in:

The JFK Assassination coverup - too bad you didn't post the RFK assassination, which was even more absurdly covered up. There's a lot of smoke there and the magic bullet theory is shit.

UFO Conspiracy - Only somewhat. Roswell? Maybe, maybe not. But I'm one who believes that we're probably not alone, so it's plausible. By the way, Area 51 is real and there are two unmarked airplanes that shuttle workers from the Las Vegas airport to the site each day.

Logan · 10-10-2005, 05:07 PM

Can we make this public so I can bitch slap the fool who checked off "the Holocaust didn't happen?"

pennywisesb · 10-10-2005, 05:10 PM

I think JFK's murder was completely shady and I think the government is trying its damnest to cover up UFO sightings.

Raiders Army · 10-10-2005, 05:11 PM

I lost a post!

I believe in a thing called looooooooooooooooooooooooove!!!

pennywisesb · 10-10-2005, 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Logan

Can we make this public so I can bitch slap the fool who checked off "the Holocaust didn't happen?"

Yeah, no kidding.

Neuqua · 10-10-2005, 05:16 PM

Wasn't Area 51 vacated and all its content was moved to another area in a secret location?

Raiders Army · 10-10-2005, 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neuqua

Wasn't Area 51 vacated and all its content was moved to another area in a secret location?

Yes, Area 51.1

sabotai · 10-10-2005, 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neuqua

Wasn't Area 51 vacated and all its content was moved to another area in a secret location?

No, the fool who originally reported that it had moved made a wrong turn when looking for it. When it wasn't there, he went "OMG! It's not here!! They moved it!!"

But no, it wasn't moved. It's still there.

Tom E · 10-10-2005, 05:39 PM

The reason I don't think there is a JFK conspiracy, is becuase somebody would have spoken by now. Its been to long for people to keep their mouths shut...

CHEMICAL SOLDIER · 10-10-2005, 05:58 PM

Dugway proving grounds is suppose to be THE new Area 51.

Logan · 10-10-2005, 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom E

The reason I don't think there is a JFK conspiracy, is becuase somebody would have spoken by now. Its been to long for people to keep their mouths shut...

Not if they're all dead.

Mustang · 10-10-2005, 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom E

The reason I don't think there is a JFK conspiracy, is becuase somebody would have spoken by now. Its been to long for people to keep their mouths shut...

Enough stuff out there that if anyone had spoken up it would probably have been lost in all the other information out there...

Surtt · 10-10-2005, 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neuqua

Wasn't Area 51 vacated and all its content was moved to another area in a secret location?

It is still there to act as a decoy. The new location is at

Buccaneer · 10-10-2005, 06:22 PM

As one who has followed the JFK Assassination stories throughout the years, it is still interesting to see new literature on this. I am coming to the conclusion that source for such conspiracies (and the reason the story has so much legs) was/is the obvious attempts at coverups and omissions in the Warren Commission Report. What they were covering up remains speculative but even the anti-conspiracy crowd admits as much. By the way, there is a new book called Case Closed that apparently ends all speculations. It seems to be more of selective reasonings and jumping to conclusions without solid evidences.

My "conspiracy" still holds in that it was a lone gunmen but there was too many people involved that had common "friends" (namely the Chicago connection).

Blacky, the same holds for RFK as well. Same "friends", same motivation.

Solecismic · 10-10-2005, 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neuqua

Wasn't Area 51 vacated and all its content was moved to another area in a secret location?

Well, the land we bought in Michigan is called Lot 51 in its subdivision. I've walked it several times and never seen any aliens, though. Just a few grasshoppers and a lot of weeds.

panerd · 10-10-2005, 07:02 PM

Well as far as the AIDS conspiracy goes, I don't think our government had anything to do with creating it. But I believe it is in both political parties interests to spread a lot of disinformation about it. So if that is a conspiracy theory than I am onboard for that.

Philadelphia Project? Never heard of it, I will have to look it up to see what this one is about. Doesn't look like it is getting a lot of votes though, so I am guessing it is pretty far out there.

New World Order. I don't know if it is as much of a conspiracy as just a screw job by Hogan, Nash, and Hull to screw over the fans. (Or maybe that is just what 'they' want me to think)

Buccaneer · 10-10-2005, 07:05 PM

The story of the experiment

Note: This account has been widely criticised, and nearly every assertion regarding the Philadelphia Experiment has been challenged as unfounded, highly speculative or as a hoax

The experiment was allegedly conducted by one Dr. Franklin Reno (or Rinehart) as a military application of Albert Einstein's unified field theory, or "generalized theory of gravitation". The theory, briefly, postulates the interrelatedness of the forces which comprise electromagnetic radiation and gravity. Through a special application of the theory, it was thought to be possible, with specialized equipment and enough energy, to bend light around an object, rendering it essentially invisible. The Navy considered this application to be of obvious value in wartime (as the United States was engaged in World War II at the time) and approved and sponsored the experiment. A Navy destroyer escort, USS Eldridge (DE-173), was fitted with the required generator equipment at the Naval Yards in Philadelphia.

Testing began in the summer of 1943, and was initially successful to a limited degree. One test, on July 22, 1943, resulted in Eldridge being rendered almost completely invisible, with some eyewitnesses reporting a "greenish fog" - however, crew members complained of serious nausea afterwards. At that point, the experiment was altered by the request of the Navy, with the new goal being invisible to radar only.

Equipment was recalibrated, and the experiment was performed again on October 28. This time, Eldridge not only actually became almost entirely invisible to the naked eye, but actually vanished from the area entirely in a flash of blue light. Concurrent with this phenomenon, the U.S. Naval base at Norfolk, Virginia, just over 600 km away, reported sighting Eldridge offshore for several minutes, at the end of which time Eldridge vanished again and reappeared in Philadelphia, at the site it had originally occupied — a supposed case of accidental teleportation.

The physiological effects on the crew were profound. Almost all of the crew were violently ill. Some suffered from mental illness because of the experience - behavior conforming to schizophrenia is described in some accounts. Still other members were missing — supposedly "vanished" — and allegedly five of the crew were actually fused to the metal bulkhead or deck of the ship. Horrified, Navy officials immediately cancelled the experiment. All of the surviving crew involved were discharged; in some cases, brainwashing was used to make crew members forget about the details of their experience.

panerd · 10-10-2005, 07:10 PM

Ah yes, the disappearing ship. Now I remember. I was hoping for something juicier (like the New World Order's attempt to rule the world through the NEA) but I guess a whole ship getting lost in time is a major government cover-up.

It is kind of funny how silly the holocaust and 9-11 and Philadelphia experiment conspiracies are to me, but how I actually could be convinced on Kennedy and the UFO's. Some people probably look at me the same way.

Raiders Army · 10-10-2005, 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by panerd

New World Order. I don't know if it is as much of a conspiracy as just a screw job by Hogan, Nash, and Hull to screw over the fans. (Or maybe that is just what 'they' want me to think)

I disagree. It was great until they had the different factions of the nWo. nWo Black and White, nWo Wolfpack, and wasn't there a Latino nWo?

kcchief19 · 10-10-2005, 07:59 PM

Here's the funny thing about conspiracy theories for me: I find it oddly humorous that I believe in some form of conspiracy theories around the JFK assasination and aliens, but I generally hold a feeling of superiority over people who believe in the other conspiracy theories listed.

I suppose we all have our weaknesses.

stevew · 10-10-2005, 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raiders Army

I disagree. It was great until they had the different factions of the nWo. nWo Black and White, nWo Wolfpack, and wasn't there a Latino nWo?

The "poke me in the stomache, exchange the title belt, unify the nWo" was pretty much the last time i really watched wrestling. Talk about fucking retarded.

cthomer5000 · 10-10-2005, 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcchief19

Here's the funny thing about conspiracy theories for me: I find it oddly humorous that I believe in some form of conspiracy theories around the JFK assasination and aliens, but I generally hold a feeling of superiority over people who believe in the other conspiracy theories listed.

I suppose we all have our weaknesses.

I'm with you. If people I knew told me they beleived in a few of those conspiracies up there I'd probably laugh in their face and/or snicker behind theier backl. However, there are a few which i believe in (well, not necessarily totally believe in, but feel pretty sure of).

Buccaneer · 10-10-2005, 08:17 PM

I don't know. There certainly have been some documented mysteries and unexplained events with many historical events. Then there are those with no documentation, just something that no one can trace back to where it came from.

View Poll Results: I believe in... (Conspiracy Theories)
Moon Landing was faked	7	9.33%
The Holocaust didn't happen	2	2.67%
Government UFO Coverup	29	38.67%
9/11 Conspiracies	6	8.00%
JFK Assassination Conspiracy	34	45.33%
Government Created the AIDS Virus	4	5.33%
The Philadelphia Project	4	5.33%
New World Order, The Illuminati	13	17.33%
Other	11	14.67%
None of the Above	24	32.00%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 75. You may not vote on this poll

10-10-2005, 04:17 PM	#4
Ben E Lou Morgado's Favorite Forum Fascist Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Greensboro, NC	It was revealed to me down in my soul. There were two shooters on the grassy knoll. We never walked on the moon. Elvis ain't dead. You ain't goin' crazy. It's all in your head. __________________ The media don't understand the kinds of problems and pressures 54 million come wit'!

10-10-2005, 04:22 PM	#6
FF Mascot Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Michigan, USA	last fall i remember watching a docu on IFC about the possibility of aids being brought along by a polio(? i think) vaccine. i cant remember the name of the documentary though... __________________ i've somehow gotten a computer

10-10-2005, 04:52 PM	#8
Ben E Lou Morgado's Favorite Forum Fascist Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Greensboro, NC	I believe I can fly. I believe I can touch the sky. I think about it every night and day. Spread my wings then fly away. I believe I can soar See me runnin' through that open door. I believe I can fly. I believe I can fly. I believe I can fly. __________________ The media don't understand the kinds of problems and pressures 54 million come wit'!

10-10-2005, 05:10 PM	#11
pennywisesb College Benchwarmer Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Los Angeles, California	I think JFK's murder was completely shady and I think the government is trying its damnest to cover up UFO sightings. __________________ Myspace Profile

10-10-2005, 03:55 PM	#2
sachmo71 The boy who cried Trout Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: TX	Nothing. I accept everything spoon-fed to me by my government and media.

10-10-2005, 04:01 PM	#3
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	I believe you have my stapler http://staplercalledlove.ytmnd.com/

10-10-2005, 04:21 PM	#5
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	None of the above you psychos.

10-10-2005, 04:47 PM	#7
SFL Cat College Starter Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: South Florida	The Truth Is Out There.

10-10-2005, 04:55 PM	#9
Blackadar Retired Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fantasyland	I believe in: The JFK Assassination coverup - too bad you didn't post the RFK assassination, which was even more absurdly covered up. There's a lot of smoke there and the magic bullet theory is shit. UFO Conspiracy - Only somewhat. Roswell? Maybe, maybe not. But I'm one who believes that we're probably not alone, so it's plausible. By the way, Area 51 is real and there are two unmarked airplanes that shuttle workers from the Las Vegas airport to the site each day.

10-10-2005, 05:07 PM	#10
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	Can we make this public so I can bitch slap the fool who checked off "the Holocaust didn't happen?"

10-10-2005, 05:11 PM	#12
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	I lost a post! I believe in a thing called looooooooooooooooooooooooove!!!

10-10-2005, 05:16 PM	#14
Neuqua Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago, Ill	Wasn't Area 51 vacated and all its content was moved to another area in a secret location? __________________ Our Deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us. We ask ourselves, 'Who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous, talented, fabulous?' Actually, who are you not to be?

10-10-2005, 05:39 PM	#17
Tom E H.S. Freshman Team Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Livermore, CA	The reason I don't think there is a JFK conspiracy, is becuase somebody would have spoken by now. Its been to long for people to keep their mouths shut... __________________ Be Polite Be Proffesional And Be Ready to Kill... I'll Never Forget What's Her Name... A Democrat is Somebody who Knows the Issues, a Republican is Somebody who Understands the Issues...

10-10-2005, 05:58 PM	#18
CHEMICAL SOLDIER College Starter Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Henderson, Nevada	Dugway proving grounds is suppose to be THE new Area 51. __________________ Toujour Pret

10-10-2005, 06:22 PM	#22
Buccaneer Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Colorado	As one who has followed the JFK Assassination stories throughout the years, it is still interesting to see new literature on this. I am coming to the conclusion that source for such conspiracies (and the reason the story has so much legs) was/is the obvious attempts at coverups and omissions in the Warren Commission Report. What they were covering up remains speculative but even the anti-conspiracy crowd admits as much. By the way, there is a new book called Case Closed that apparently ends all speculations. It seems to be more of selective reasonings and jumping to conclusions without solid evidences. My "conspiracy" still holds in that it was a lone gunmen but there was too many people involved that had common "friends" (namely the Chicago connection). Blacky, the same holds for RFK as well. Same "friends", same motivation.

10-10-2005, 07:02 PM	#24
panerd Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: St. Louis	Well as far as the AIDS conspiracy goes, I don't think our government had anything to do with creating it. But I believe it is in both political parties interests to spread a lot of disinformation about it. So if that is a conspiracy theory than I am onboard for that. Philadelphia Project? Never heard of it, I will have to look it up to see what this one is about. Doesn't look like it is getting a lot of votes though, so I am guessing it is pretty far out there. New World Order. I don't know if it is as much of a conspiracy as just a screw job by Hogan, Nash, and Hull to screw over the fans. (Or maybe that is just what 'they' want me to think)

10-10-2005, 07:05 PM	#25
Buccaneer Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Colorado	The story of the experiment Note: This account has been widely criticised, and nearly every assertion regarding the Philadelphia Experiment has been challenged as unfounded, highly speculative or as a hoax The experiment was allegedly conducted by one Dr. Franklin Reno (or Rinehart) as a military application of Albert Einstein's unified field theory, or "generalized theory of gravitation". The theory, briefly, postulates the interrelatedness of the forces which comprise electromagnetic radiation and gravity. Through a special application of the theory, it was thought to be possible, with specialized equipment and enough energy, to bend light around an object, rendering it essentially invisible. The Navy considered this application to be of obvious value in wartime (as the United States was engaged in World War II at the time) and approved and sponsored the experiment. A Navy destroyer escort, USS Eldridge (DE-173), was fitted with the required generator equipment at the Naval Yards in Philadelphia. Testing began in the summer of 1943, and was initially successful to a limited degree. One test, on July 22, 1943, resulted in Eldridge being rendered almost completely invisible, with some eyewitnesses reporting a "greenish fog" - however, crew members complained of serious nausea afterwards. At that point, the experiment was altered by the request of the Navy, with the new goal being invisible to radar only. Equipment was recalibrated, and the experiment was performed again on October 28. This time, Eldridge not only actually became almost entirely invisible to the naked eye, but actually vanished from the area entirely in a flash of blue light. Concurrent with this phenomenon, the U.S. Naval base at Norfolk, Virginia, just over 600 km away, reported sighting Eldridge offshore for several minutes, at the end of which time Eldridge vanished again and reappeared in Philadelphia, at the site it had originally occupied — a supposed case of accidental teleportation. The physiological effects on the crew were profound. Almost all of the crew were violently ill. Some suffered from mental illness because of the experience - behavior conforming to schizophrenia is described in some accounts. Still other members were missing — supposedly "vanished" — and allegedly five of the crew were actually fused to the metal bulkhead or deck of the ship. Horrified, Navy officials immediately cancelled the experiment. All of the surviving crew involved were discharged; in some cases, brainwashing was used to make crew members forget about the details of their experience.

10-10-2005, 07:10 PM	#26
panerd Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: St. Louis	Ah yes, the disappearing ship. Now I remember. I was hoping for something juicier (like the New World Order's attempt to rule the world through the NEA) but I guess a whole ship getting lost in time is a major government cover-up. It is kind of funny how silly the holocaust and 9-11 and Philadelphia experiment conspiracies are to me, but how I actually could be convinced on Kennedy and the UFO's. Some people probably look at me the same way. Last edited by panerd : 10-10-2005 at 07:10 PM.

10-10-2005, 07:59 PM	#28
kcchief19 Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Kansas City, MO	Here's the funny thing about conspiracy theories for me: I find it oddly humorous that I believe in some form of conspiracy theories around the JFK assasination and aliens, but I generally hold a feeling of superiority over people who believe in the other conspiracy theories listed. I suppose we all have our weaknesses.

10-10-2005, 08:17 PM	#31
Buccaneer Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Colorado	I don't know. There certainly have been some documented mysteries and unexplained events with many historical events. Then there are those with no documentation, just something that no one can trace back to where it came from.

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