Steve McNair has been shot and killed

Jas_lov · 07-04-2009, 04:27 PM

Steve McNair Found Shot To Death - NewsChannel 5.com - Nashville, Tennessee -

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NASHVILLE, Tenn. - Former Titans quarterback Steve McNair has been killed. Police said McNair suffered a fatal gunshot wound to the head in downtown Nashville.

The incident happened at 2nd South & Lea Ave. Police said it looked like a double homicide. A female victim was also found dead.

Sad news.

Young Drachma · 07-04-2009, 04:30 PM

Oh my goodness.

GrantDawg · 07-04-2009, 04:31 PM

I just saw that. Way too sad.

SteveMax58 · 07-04-2009, 04:31 PM

RIP "Air" McNair...what the heck is going on with players being targets lately. Maybe it's just me noticing this more.

rowech · 07-04-2009, 04:33 PM

I hope this is somehow a mistake....he was always one of my favorite football players. Just busted his ass all the time and was a winner.

GrantDawg · 07-04-2009, 04:35 PM

They are saying he was found behind a market in downtown. Possible murder/suicide or "an attempt to look like" murder suicide.

JonInMiddleGA · 07-04-2009, 04:37 PM

Whaaaat? Damn.

Young Drachma · 07-04-2009, 04:38 PM

McNair's new restaurant open | tennessean.com | The Tennessean

I hope he didn't do it to himself. He just opened a restaurant down there, too. Seems like he was doing all right.

Chief Rum · 07-04-2009, 04:38 PM

Damn, and wow. RIP Steve McNair.

JonInMiddleGA · 07-04-2009, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark Cloud

McNair's new restaurant open | tennessean.com | The Tennessean

I hope he didn't do it to himself. He just opened a restaurant down there, too. Seems like he was doing all right.

I was about to post that same link, I'm wondering if he might have been robbed while carrying the night's proceeds or something.

edit to add: But the location where he was found is way the hell across town, about a mile from the river.

Eaglesfan27 · 07-04-2009, 04:41 PM

Sad news. RIP Steve McNair.

Young Drachma · 07-04-2009, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

I was about to post that same link, I'm wondering if he might have been robbed while carrying the night's proceeds or something.

My impression is that he's not actually running it, but owns it and lends his name to it.

But I think we'll be all curious to hear what details they can pull out, because man...

JonInMiddleGA · 07-04-2009, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark Cloud

My impression is that he's not actually running it, but owns it and lends his name to it.

Yeah, probably so (since the article mentioned two full-time managers) but the article also had him talking about planning to be hands-on when he could so I guess I was trying to force the story into something that would make sense without assuming the worst.

Buccaneer · 07-04-2009, 04:52 PM

Had been one of my favorite QB.

JonInMiddleGA · 07-04-2009, 04:56 PM

In what would be a sort of odd twist if they're right, the rumor bloggers are starting to pick up on the possibility that his wife shot him & then shot herself.
Not sure if they're just feeding on their own rumors or if someone got something off the record from the PD or what.

Karlifornia · 07-04-2009, 04:57 PM

Damn. Very sad.

GrantDawg · 07-04-2009, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

In what would be a sort of odd twist if they're right, the rumor bloggers are starting to pick up on the possibility that his wife shot him & then shot herself.
Not sure if they're just feeding on their own rumors or if someone got something off the record from the PD or what.

Odd, but not surprising. I'd actually be a little surprised if it were the other way. They are now saying it was in apartment complex. I guess the story will change as it develops.

BYU 14 · 07-04-2009, 05:03 PM

Shocking news and interesting how it keeps changing from what I am reading. Sad regardless, RIP.

ColtCrazy · 07-04-2009, 05:04 PM

just wow...sad day indeed

MrDNA · 07-04-2009, 05:08 PM

Wow. Very sad to hear this. A bad time to be famous, it seems.

M GO BLUE!!! · 07-04-2009, 05:16 PM

What the hell?

This is a damn shame.

Noop · 07-04-2009, 05:18 PM

Sad news.

bhlloy · 07-04-2009, 05:25 PM

This sounds like death by crazy bitch if I had to guess from the details available right now.

Very very sad - RIP.

BrianD · 07-04-2009, 05:25 PM

McNair was one of my favorites too. Good legs, great arm, seemed to be good for the game. He'll be missed.

hukarez · 07-04-2009, 05:34 PM

RIP, Steve... thanks for those wonderful memories.

lungs · 07-04-2009, 05:35 PM

Damn...

Racer · 07-04-2009, 05:53 PM

RIP. He was always tough against the Colts.

Jas_lov · 07-04-2009, 06:06 PM

Former NFL quarterback Steve McNair killed, police say - CNN.com

This report says the woman found dead was McNair's girlfriend. Some reports are saying it was his wife. Maybe it was an affair but I guess there's too many conflicting reports to speculate.

k0ruptr · 07-04-2009, 06:26 PM

RIP .. He really was amazing to watch, and only 36. thats so sad.

Galaril · 07-04-2009, 06:26 PM

Life long Titans /Oilers fan and McNair was one of the two greatest QBs in the teams history the other being Moon. This is real sad.

CU Tiger · 07-04-2009, 06:30 PM

damn, rip

k0ruptr · 07-04-2009, 07:07 PM

He was such an amazing athlete to watch, he always had a nother trick in the bag ready to go. Gifted player. I didn't know he was also drafted in the 35th round for baseball in 1991 out of HS as well. just all around great athlete and will be missed by sports fans everywhere.

JetsIn06 · 07-04-2009, 07:07 PM

Ugh...was a big fan of his.

RIP

tucker rocky · 07-04-2009, 07:12 PM

Absolute shocker.

RIP Steve McNair

stevew · 07-04-2009, 07:13 PM

I'm going to wait for details.

But the write up smells of murder suicide. I hope it wasn't him.

Axxon · 07-04-2009, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by stevew

I'm going to wait for details.

But the write up smells of murder suicide. I hope it wasn't him.

I doubt it's mistaken identity at this point.

RIP Steve.

Ben E Lou · 07-04-2009, 07:19 PM

I think Steve was saying that he hopes that McNair wasn't the killer--that it was the chick or someone else.

Axxon · 07-04-2009, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Ben E Lou

I think Steve was saying that he hopes that McNair wasn't the killer--that it was the chick or someone else.

Ok, I thought that had been established but rereading the thread it hasn't. Gotcha.

stevew · 07-04-2009, 07:28 PM

Yeah. What Ben said.

ESPN says gunshot to the head and female "victim". Those seem to be code words to say he may have done this.

Danny · 07-04-2009, 07:31 PM

One of my favorite players as well, tough as nails he was. I will wait for the details before commenting on what happened exactly.

stevew · 07-04-2009, 07:36 PM

Looks like a Nashville station is saying double homicide.

Per PFT.

ThunderingHERD · 07-04-2009, 07:57 PM

Former Titans QB Steve McNair Shot To Death - Sports News Story - WSMV Nashville

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Police spokesman Don Aaron said a woman, who was not McNair's wife Mechelle, was also found dead with McNair. He said police tentatively have identified the woman but did not release her name.

Mechelle McNair said she had not heard from her husband in a couple of days.

Aaron ruled out the possibility of a murder-suicide. He also said that the time of the deaths is uncertain and that they may not have occurred Saturday.

Galaril · 07-04-2009, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by stevew

Yeah. What Ben said.

ESPN says gunshot to the head and female "victim". Those seem to be code words to say he may have done this.

Never say never but I would be totally shocked if guy like him would go and off someone.but I guess we will have to wait and see.I myself would be more likely to believe the girl killed him and herself or a double murder.

rowech · 07-04-2009, 08:52 PM

Let's not forget what a jealous wife might do as well.

JonInMiddleGA · 07-04-2009, 08:52 PM

Former Titans QB Steve McNair Shot To Death - Sports News Story - WSMV Nashville

Some tidbits from a longer writethru.

Mechelle McNair said she had not heard from her husband in a couple of days. She was in the couple's home Saturday on Bear Road in Green Hills.
... A source told Channel 4 News that McNair was seen at about 1 a.m. Saturday at a Nashville restaurant. ... "There are persons who were around the complex today, visitors, who have been taken to headquarters for questioning, just to see what they know, what they may have seen," Aaron said. "No one is in custody right now." ... Two black SUVs were towed from the scene. ... The owner of the building is Charles Cardwell, a well-known Metro trustee. Cardwell said the unit where McNair and the woman were found was rented to Wayne Neeley, who worked or still works at Nashville Sporting Goods as a salesman. Cardwell, who also lived in the building, said the apartment was often vacant but that McNair used it when he came into town. ... Neeley had rented the apartment for about four years, said Cardwell, who also said he isn't aware of previous problems at the apartment, which is near McNair's restaurant Gridiron9. ... McNair aided in the revitalization of the Jefferson Street area with the recent opening of Gridiron9, near Tennessee State University. He could be found at the restaurant sweeping floors, eating, serving and talking to people. Restaurant patrons have remarked upon how accessible he was, and many wrote memorial tributes to the athlete Saturday afternoon on the windows of Gridiron9. [/i]

Okay, this sure does sound like death by misadventure. The key to that wouldn't be the female victim being his girlfriend, it would be her being somebody else's girlfriend/wife too.

Second of all, mostly just an accuracy in the media issue to me I guess, somebody else Google map the two locations & see if you would refer to them as being near his restaurant. Second Avenue South and Lea Avenue is what is given for the condo, 2719E Jefferson Street for the restaurant (check east near the river, 3 blocks south & 4 blks east of the country music HOF). Those look like the opposite sides of town as far as I can figure

Galaril · 07-04-2009, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by rowech

Let's not forget what a jealous wife might do as well.

Yeah, that is what I was thinking.

DaddyTorgo · 07-04-2009, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by rowech

Let's not forget what a jealous wife might do as well.

when i saw it might be a GF in the car that was my first thought as well.

spousal deaths you've always got to look at the surviving spouse first ya know

Grammaticus · 07-04-2009, 10:19 PM

I'm hearing it was a 20 year old female. Not sure if that lends more or less to the girlfriend rumor. Could have been an employee, etc. Non of the news stories are giving much detail at this point.

Jas_lov · 07-04-2009, 11:04 PM

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NASHVILLE, Tenn. (AP) — Nashville police say former NFL quarterback Steve McNair was shot multiple times and that the 20-year-old woman found dead with him in a downtown condominium was shot once in the head. A pistol was found near her body.

Nashville police spokesman Don Aaron identified the woman as Sahel Kazemi, whom he called a "friend" of McNair's.

Autopsies were planned for Sunday.

Aaron says McNair's wife, Mechelle, is "very distraught" and that police do not believe she is involved.

The Associated Press: Former NFL quarterback McNair killed in Tennessee

Latest report from the AP sounds like a murder-suicide. I wonder how they ruled that out already.

JonInMiddleGA · 07-04-2009, 11:10 PM

Local paper says murder-suicide, 20 year old shot herself after killing him. He'd allegedly/reportedly/whatever been dating the Dave & Buster's waitress for several months and had recently given her an Escalade that was registered in both their names. Police have now confirmed that, although he was not mentioned in the official report, McNair was in the vehicle when she was stopped for DUI a couple of days ago.

UPDATED 10 p.m.: Steve McNair and Sahel Kazemi killed | tennessean.com | The Tennessean

07-04-2009, 04:30 PM	#2
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rowech Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2006	I hope this is somehow a mistake....he was always one of my favorite football players. Just busted his ass all the time and was a winner. Last edited by rowech : 07-04-2009 at 04:35 PM.

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07-04-2009, 04:38 PM	#8
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	McNair's new restaurant open \| tennessean.com \| The Tennessean I hope he didn't do it to himself. He just opened a restaurant down there, too. Seems like he was doing all right. __________________ Current dynasty: OOTP25 Blitz: RTS meets Moneyball \| OOTP Mod: GM Excel Competitive Balance Tax/Revenue Sharing Calc \| FBCB Mods on Github

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Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	Damn, and wow. RIP Steve McNair. __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

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GrantDawg World Champion Mis-speller Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Covington, Ga.	I just saw that. Way too sad.

07-04-2009, 04:31 PM	#4
SteveMax58 College Starter Join Date: Dec 2006	RIP "Air" McNair...what the heck is going on with players being targets lately. Maybe it's just me noticing this more.

07-04-2009, 04:35 PM	#6
GrantDawg World Champion Mis-speller Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Covington, Ga.	They are saying he was found behind a market in downtown. Possible murder/suicide or "an attempt to look like" murder suicide.

07-04-2009, 04:41 PM	#11
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	Sad news. RIP Steve McNair. __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen.

07-04-2009, 04:52 PM	#14
Buccaneer Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Colorado	Had been one of my favorite QB.

07-04-2009, 04:56 PM	#15
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	In what would be a sort of odd twist if they're right, the rumor bloggers are starting to pick up on the possibility that his wife shot him & then shot herself. Not sure if they're just feeding on their own rumors or if someone got something off the record from the PD or what. __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis Last edited by JonInMiddleGA : 07-04-2009 at 04:56 PM.

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Karlifornia Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: San Jose, CA	Damn. Very sad. __________________ Look into the mind of a crazy man (NSFW) http://www.whitepowerupdate.wordpress.com

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BYU 14 Coordinator Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The scorched Desert	Shocking news and interesting how it keeps changing from what I am reading. Sad regardless, RIP. Last edited by BYU 14 : 07-04-2009 at 05:04 PM.

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ColtCrazy College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Midwest	just wow...sad day indeed __________________ The Field Generals and Statis Pro Basketball Super League

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07-04-2009, 05:16 PM	#21
M GO BLUE!!! Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2005	What the hell? This is a damn shame.

07-04-2009, 05:18 PM	#22
Noop Bonafide Seminole Fan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Miami	Sad news. __________________ Subby's favorite woman hater.

07-04-2009, 05:25 PM	#23
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	This sounds like death by crazy bitch if I had to guess from the details available right now. Very very sad - RIP.

07-04-2009, 05:25 PM	#24
BrianD Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	McNair was one of my favorites too. Good legs, great arm, seemed to be good for the game. He'll be missed.

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hukarez College Starter Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Chula Vista, CA	RIP, Steve... thanks for those wonderful memories. __________________ ...what we have here is a man who looks like Tarzan, but fights like Jane! My VG collection \| Xbox 360 Gamertag: ManThol \| PS3 Network ID: hukarez Doce Pares International - San Diego Council Filipino Martial Arts Digest tweet tweet twitter

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lungs Pro Rookie Join Date: May 2002 Location: Prairie du Sac, WI	Damn...

07-04-2009, 05:53 PM	#27
Racer College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fort Wayne, Indiana	RIP. He was always tough against the Colts.

07-04-2009, 06:06 PM	#28
Jas_lov College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000	Former NFL quarterback Steve McNair killed, police say - CNN.com This report says the woman found dead was McNair's girlfriend. Some reports are saying it was his wife. Maybe it was an affair but I guess there's too many conflicting reports to speculate.

07-04-2009, 06:26 PM	#29
k0ruptr Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Las Vegas	RIP .. He really was amazing to watch, and only 36. thats so sad.

07-04-2009, 06:26 PM	#30
Galaril Pro Starter Join Date: Jan 2004	Life long Titans /Oilers fan and McNair was one of the two greatest QBs in the teams history the other being Moon. This is real sad. Last edited by Galaril : 07-04-2009 at 06:27 PM.

07-04-2009, 06:30 PM	#31
CU Tiger Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Backwoods, SC	damn, rip

07-04-2009, 07:07 PM	#32
k0ruptr Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Las Vegas	He was such an amazing athlete to watch, he always had a nother trick in the bag ready to go. Gifted player. I didn't know he was also drafted in the 35th round for baseball in 1991 out of HS as well. just all around great athlete and will be missed by sports fans everywhere.

07-04-2009, 07:07 PM	#33
JetsIn06 Pro Rookie Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Rahway, NJ	Ugh...was a big fan of his. RIP

07-04-2009, 07:12 PM	#34
tucker rocky Pro Rookie Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Of no particular interest	Absolute shocker. RIP Steve McNair

07-04-2009, 07:13 PM	#35
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	I'm going to wait for details. But the write up smells of murder suicide. I hope it wasn't him.

07-04-2009, 07:19 PM	#37
Ben E Lou Morgado's Favorite Forum Fascist Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Greensboro, NC	I think Steve was saying that he hopes that McNair wasn't the killer--that it was the chick or someone else. __________________ The media don't understand the kinds of problems and pressures 54 million come wit'! Last edited by Ben E Lou : 07-04-2009 at 07:19 PM.

07-04-2009, 07:28 PM	#39
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Yeah. What Ben said. ESPN says gunshot to the head and female "victim". Those seem to be code words to say he may have done this.

07-04-2009, 07:31 PM	#40
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	One of my favorite players as well, tough as nails he was. I will wait for the details before commenting on what happened exactly.

07-04-2009, 07:36 PM	#41
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Looks like a Nashville station is saying double homicide. Per PFT.

07-04-2009, 08:52 PM	#44
rowech Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2006	Let's not forget what a jealous wife might do as well.