Habemus Papam!

DaddyTorgo · 03-13-2013, 01:12 PM

White smoke

Coffee Warlord · 03-13-2013, 01:14 PM

Right after Dennis Rodman shows up to the Vatican, we have white smoke.

Coincidence? I think not. All hail Pope Rodman I.

Logan · 03-13-2013, 01:15 PM

Damn, so this did deserve it's own thread?

spleen1015 · 03-13-2013, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Logan

Damn, so this did deserve it's own thread?

IT IS THE FUCKING POPE, MAN!

panerd · 03-13-2013, 01:26 PM

White smoke signals new pope elected in secret conclave - Yahoo! News

LOL. The story is in the science section.

murrayyyyy · 03-13-2013, 01:33 PM

BAWH GAWD, it's the Undertaker... Oh wait, wrong thread.

Kodos · 03-13-2013, 01:34 PM

DaddyTorgo · 03-13-2013, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Logan

Damn, so this did deserve it's own thread?

I thought so, yeah.

And I'm not even really religious.

Suburban Rhythm · 03-13-2013, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by spleen1015

IT IS THE FUCKING POPE, MAN!

By rule, I don't think he's allowed to...he's just a plain old, everyday Pope

Logan · 03-13-2013, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

I thought so, yeah.

And I'm not even really religious.

Ha...I posted "white smoke" in the "random thoughts that don't deserve it's own thread" thread

. I was actually surprised we didn't have a thread on this earlier.

ntndeacon · 03-13-2013, 02:15 PM

Pope Francis I!

JPhillips · 03-13-2013, 02:16 PM

Seems like they went for another caretaker. If I heard the Vatican TV translation right he was born in 1936.

JPhillips · 03-13-2013, 02:19 PM

It's a good pick in that they open up the church to developing nations, but Argentina is probably the most western country in S.A. He's the son of an Italian, so he isn't foreign enough to piss off the racists in the Italian church. (Yes, soccer fans, I'm pointing at you.)

Kodos · 03-13-2013, 02:22 PM

Lighten up, Francis!

JPhillips · 03-13-2013, 02:24 PM

From an earlier bio of papal candidates:

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Bergoglio, 76, reportedly got the second-most votes after Joseph Ratzinger in the 2005 papal election, and he has long specialized in the kind of pastoral work that some say is an essential skill for the next pope. In a lifetime of teaching and leading priests in Latin America, which has the largest share of the world’s Catholics, Bergoglio has shown a keen political sensibility as well as the kind of self-effacing humility that fellow cardinals value highly, says his official biographer, Sergio Rubin.

Bergoglio would likely encourage the church’s 400,000 priests to hit the streets to capture more souls, Rubin said in an Associated Press interview. He is also most comfortable taking a low profile, and his personal style is the antithesis of Vatican splendor. “It’s a very curious thing: When bishops meet, he always wants to sit in the back rows. This sense of humility is very well seen in Rome,” Rubin said.

Bergoglio is known for modernizing an Argentine church that had been among the most conservative in Latin America.

Interesting that he was runner-up last time.

JonInMiddleGA · 03-13-2013, 02:25 PM

So is he Pope Francis, or Pope Francis I?

(i.e. does the number get attached only after there's a second one? Like John Smith Sr. isn't a Sr. until there's a John Smith Jr.)

whomario · 03-13-2013, 02:26 PM

Just happened to click on a news page that has a livestream. Must admit to getting goosebumps at the crowd going crazy at the window opening and a guy giving an anouncement (and now every new development).
There´s few more impressive sights than a packed St Peter's square at night ...

I´m very sceptical towards religion in general and the organisational aspect of it (no matter which of the big and small religious fractions), but i must admit that seeing this i understand the magnitude of it all. It is a big deal, plain and simple.

Jorge Mario Bergoglio is the new pope, 76 year old from Argentina. Will go by Francis, is the first to choose the name. Pretty conservative ...

edit : I severely underestimated the speed of posting

Kodos · 03-13-2013, 02:30 PM

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Bergoglio is known for modernizing an Argentine church that had been among the most conservative in Latin America.

This part sounds encouraging.

JediKooter · 03-13-2013, 02:33 PM

And if any of you homos call me Francis...I'll kill ya.

JonInMiddleGA · 03-13-2013, 02:34 PM

Let's see how much his Wiki changes in the next few days (it has already been redirected from his name to Pope Francis in the past 15 minutes)

Here's the three sections about his views. I'll paste in full under the spoiler tags but to summarize what's there so far: he's opposed abortion & euthanasia, he's affirmed church teaching on homosexuality, he strongly opposed same-sex marriage legislation & same-sex adoption

Spoiler

JediKooter · 03-13-2013, 02:40 PM

What does he have against the young people of Asia?

Mizzou B-ball fan · 03-13-2013, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Let's see how much his Wiki changes in the next few days (it has already been redirected from his name to Pope Francis in the past 15 minutes)

Here's the three sections about his views. I'll paste in full under the spoiler tags but to summarize what's there so far: he's opposed abortion & euthanasia, he's affirmed church teaching on homosexuality, he strongly opposed same-sex marriage legislation & same-sex adoption.

So more of the same. I'm sure the Catholic Church will switch their stance on homosexuality before I die, but it's still going to be awhile. Obviously not under this pope. They needed a younger leader in a bad way.

DaddyTorgo · 03-13-2013, 02:42 PM

I love how he resigned as Archbishop due to his age, and now gets elected Pope. That makes no fragging sense.

Coffee Warlord · 03-13-2013, 02:42 PM

Well, at 76 years old, we might be having another one of these in the not too distant future.

Coffee Warlord · 03-13-2013, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

So is he Pope Francis, or Pope Francis I?

(i.e. does the number get attached only after there's a second one? Like John Smith Sr. isn't a Sr. until there's a John Smith Jr.)

From what I just read, it can be either. Sometimes regnal names are SoandSo I, sometimes they don't become I until there's a II.

finketr · 03-13-2013, 02:54 PM

pope no.. but sometimes kings were styled:
king jeff, first of that name.. blah blah blah

digamma · 03-13-2013, 02:57 PM

John Paul I was the first to take the first as part of his regnal name.

digamma · 03-13-2013, 02:58 PM

dola...I guess that may make him the only to do that to, depending on what Francis does.

Abe Sargent · 03-13-2013, 02:59 PM

If I were a Pope I'd choose Celestine as my name.

Suburban Rhythm · 03-13-2013, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

Well, at 76 years old, we might be having another one of these in the not too distant future.

Just talking about this at work. I'm cynical, but at least part of this constantly choosing older people who will be retiring/dying in 5-10 years, it's good for business.

Choosing the Pope is a big deal, to both hard core Catholics, who may travel to Rome, etc, and those who are interested from a pop culture angle.

DaddyTorgo · 03-13-2013, 03:02 PM

I'd pick Mary, just to fuck with everyone and let them get outraged.

molson · 03-13-2013, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Suburban Rhythm

Just talking about this at work. I'm cynical, but at least part of this constantly choosing older people who will be retiring/dying in 5-10 years, it's good for business.

Choosing the Pope is a big deal, to both hard core Catholics, who may travel to Rome, etc, and those who are interested from a pop culture angle.

That, and when some kind of compromise is needed to get a guy elected, it's probably a lot easier to have a shorter-term presence. People are going to be a lot less willing to settle on a pope they don't really want if he's going to be there for 40 years.

JonInMiddleGA · 03-13-2013, 03:21 PM

Seems that it would take a certain amount of years to develop the gravitas needed to be elected.

Abe Sargent · 03-13-2013, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

I'd pick Mary, just to fuck with everyone and let them get outraged.

Okay, yeah, forget my idea. I'd do this too!

molson · 03-13-2013, 03:29 PM

St. Francis was pretty awesome, as far as saints go. I don't know too much about saints or Catholicism, but he's always kind of stood out to me, the little I've heard about him. Though it seems like it'd be an ideal name for a younger, hipper pope.

DanGarion · 03-13-2013, 03:31 PM

I'd do Pope Fuckyaall.

claphamsa · 03-13-2013, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Seems that it would take a certain amount of years to develop the gravitas needed to be elected.

i think this is important. in handicapping the cardinals, CNN talked about the philipino cardinal, and how it was widely considered that he was too young... at 55.

stevew · 03-13-2013, 03:39 PM

ok...see you guys back in this thread in 5 years when he dies.

JonInMiddleGA · 03-13-2013, 03:41 PM

So far his Wiki entry additions have included a section on his relationship (and/or allegations about his relationship) with the military junta.

I suspect we'll see details about his favorite football team & favorite meals appear soon.

Chief Rum · 03-13-2013, 04:22 PM

Only suspense for me was to be sure he didn't pick Peter II.

ISiddiqui · 03-13-2013, 04:44 PM

I think this is a good selection. I mean, you were NEVER going to get a Pope who was going to be for gay marriage, c'mon. However, he seems to be very austere. He doesn't like living in luxury and would rather live in sparse accommodations and take the bus to work (as he did in Buenos Aries). He also is very big on social justice and against neo-liberal economics (so was Benedict XVI, but Francis is more so).

Also the St. Francis is known for having a vision from God telling him to "clean up my house" (paraphrasing). It appears this is what Pope Francis wants out of his Papacy.

Warhammer · 03-13-2013, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Only suspense for me was to be sure he didn't pick Peter II.

At least I wasn't the only one.

JonInMiddleGA · 03-14-2013, 02:00 AM

Favorite football team, as I expected we'd see
(a photo from March 24, 2011 released by the San Lorenzo de Almagro soccer team)

SCgoatman · 03-14-2013, 02:45 AM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips

It's a good pick in that they open up the church to developing nations, but Argentina is probably the most western country in S.A.

Uh...

Hello retardo. but you apparently are catholic. so that makes sense.

Izulde · 03-14-2013, 03:37 AM

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Originally Posted by SCgoatman

Uh...

Hello retardo. but you apparently are catholic. so that makes sense.

Sorry, Chauncey, but he's correct. Argentina is the most European of South American countries.

Peregrine · 03-14-2013, 06:19 AM

When people say we need a younger Pope, maybe so, but John Paul II when he was elected in 1978 was the youngest Pope in 130 years. So it does occasionally happen, but even in earlier centuries it was common for Popes to be elders of the Church.

JPhillips · 03-14-2013, 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by SCgoatman

Uh...

Hello retardo. but you apparently are catholic. so that makes sense.

Even if you disagree, why does it make you so angry?

cuervo72 · 03-14-2013, 07:38 AM

Can Argentina be considered developing as opposed to...I dunno, already developed*? They seem to have their shit together pretty well.

* Ok, maybe economically they're still considered "developing", though they're still in the G-20 and they appear to be Very High on the Human Development Index

saldana · 03-14-2013, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Abe Sargent

If I were a Pope I'd choose Celestine as my name.

i would be going with Formosus II...this guy was awesome

Pope Formosus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

JPhillips · 03-14-2013, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by cuervo72

Can Argentina be considered developing as opposed to...I dunno, already developed*? They seem to have their shit together pretty well.

* Ok, maybe economically they're still considered "developing", though they're still in the G-20 and they appear to be Very High on the Human Development Index

I was thinking the symbolism of a country south of the equator. I probably should have worded it better.

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ntndeacon Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Alabama	Pope Francis I! __________________ Up the Posh! Last edited by ntndeacon : 03-13-2013 at 02:22 PM.

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JPhillips General Manager Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Newburgh, NY	Seems like they went for another caretaker. If I heard the Vatican TV translation right he was born in 1936. __________________ To love someone is to strive to accept that person exactly the way he or she is, right here and now.. - Mr. Rogers

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JPhillips General Manager Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Newburgh, NY	It's a good pick in that they open up the church to developing nations, but Argentina is probably the most western country in S.A. He's the son of an Italian, so he isn't foreign enough to piss off the racists in the Italian church. (Yes, soccer fans, I'm pointing at you.) __________________ To love someone is to strive to accept that person exactly the way he or she is, right here and now.. - Mr. Rogers

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JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	So is he Pope Francis, or Pope Francis I? (i.e. does the number get attached only after there's a second one? Like John Smith Sr. isn't a Sr. until there's a John Smith Jr.) __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

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whomario Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2007	Just happened to click on a news page that has a livestream. Must admit to getting goosebumps at the crowd going crazy at the window opening and a guy giving an anouncement (and now every new development). There´s few more impressive sights than a packed St Peter's square at night ... I´m very sceptical towards religion in general and the organisational aspect of it (no matter which of the big and small religious fractions), but i must admit that seeing this i understand the magnitude of it all. It is a big deal, plain and simple. Jorge Mario Bergoglio is the new pope, 76 year old from Argentina. Will go by Francis, is the first to choose the name. Pretty conservative ... edit : I severely underestimated the speed of posting __________________ “The only people for me are the mad ones, the ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn, like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars and in the middle you see the blue centerlight pop and everybody goes "Awww!” Last edited by whomario : 03-13-2013 at 02:30 PM.

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Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	Right after Dennis Rodman shows up to the Vatican, we have white smoke. Coincidence? I think not. All hail Pope Rodman I.

03-13-2013, 01:15 PM	#3
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	Damn, so this did deserve it's own thread?

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panerd Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: St. Louis	White smoke signals new pope elected in secret conclave - Yahoo! News LOL. The story is in the science section.

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murrayyyyy College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Las Vegas	BAWH GAWD, it's the Undertaker... Oh wait, wrong thread.

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Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	Lighten up, Francis!

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JediKooter Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: San Diego via Sausalito via San Jose via San Diego	And if any of you homos call me Francis...I'll kill ya. __________________ I'm no longer a Chargers fan, they are dead to me Coming this summer to a movie theater near you: The Adventures of Jedikooter: Part 4

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JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	Let's see how much his Wiki changes in the next few days (it has already been redirected from his name to Pope Francis in the past 15 minutes) Here's the three sections about his views. I'll paste in full under the spoiler tags but to summarize what's there so far: he's opposed abortion & euthanasia, he's affirmed church teaching on homosexuality, he strongly opposed same-sex marriage legislation & same-sex adoption Spoiler Abortion and euthanasia Cardinal Bergoglio has invited his clergy and laity to oppose both abortion and euthanasia.[6] Homosexuality He has affirmed church teaching on homosexuality, though he teaches the importance of respecting individuals who are homosexual. He strongly opposed legislation introduced in 2010 by the Argentine Government to allow same-sex marriage. In a letter to the monasteries of Buenos Aires, he wrote: "Let's not be naive, we're not talking about a simple political battle; it is a destructive pretension against the plan of God. We are not talking about a mere bill, but rather a machination of the Father of Lies that seeks to confuse and deceive the children of God." He has also insisted that adoption by homosexuals is a form of discrimination against children. This position received a rebuke from Argentine president Cristina Fernández de Kirchner, who said the church's tone was reminiscent of "medieval times and the Inquisition".[7] Relations with the Argentine government See also: Dirty War On April 15, 2005, a human rights lawyer filed a criminal complaint against Bergoglio, accusing him of conspiring with the junta in 1976 to kidnap two Jesuit priests, whom he, as superior of the Society of Jesus of Argentina in 1976, had asked to leave their pastoral work following conflict within the Society over how to respond to the new military dictatorship, with some priests advocating a violent overthrow. Bergoglio's spokesman has flatly denied the allegations. No evidence was presented linking the cardinal to this crime.[8] __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

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JediKooter Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: San Diego via Sausalito via San Jose via San Diego	What does he have against the young people of Asia? __________________ I'm no longer a Chargers fan, they are dead to me Coming this summer to a movie theater near you: The Adventures of Jedikooter: Part 4

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DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	I love how he resigned as Archbishop due to his age, and now gets elected Pope. That makes no fragging sense.

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finketr College Prospect Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inland Empire, PRC	pope no.. but sometimes kings were styled: king jeff, first of that name.. blah blah blah

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digamma Torchbearer Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: On Lake Harriet	John Paul I was the first to take the first as part of his regnal name.

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digamma Torchbearer Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: On Lake Harriet	dola...I guess that may make him the only to do that to, depending on what Francis does.

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Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	If I were a Pope I'd choose Celestine as my name. __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

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DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	I'd pick Mary, just to fuck with everyone and let them get outraged.

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JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	Seems that it would take a certain amount of years to develop the gravitas needed to be elected. __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

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molson General Manager Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Mountains	St. Francis was pretty awesome, as far as saints go. I don't know too much about saints or Catholicism, but he's always kind of stood out to me, the little I've heard about him. Though it seems like it'd be an ideal name for a younger, hipper pope. Last edited by molson : 03-13-2013 at 03:30 PM.

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stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	ok...see you guys back in this thread in 5 years when he dies.

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JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	So far his Wiki entry additions have included a section on his relationship (and/or allegations about his relationship) with the military junta. I suspect we'll see details about his favorite football team & favorite meals appear soon. __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

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Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	Only suspense for me was to be sure he didn't pick Peter II. __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

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ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	I think this is a good selection. I mean, you were NEVER going to get a Pope who was going to be for gay marriage, c'mon. However, he seems to be very austere. He doesn't like living in luxury and would rather live in sparse accommodations and take the bus to work (as he did in Buenos Aries). He also is very big on social justice and against neo-liberal economics (so was Benedict XVI, but Francis is more so). Also the St. Francis is known for having a vision from God telling him to "clean up my house" (paraphrasing). It appears this is what Pope Francis wants out of his Papacy. __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

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JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	Favorite football team, as I expected we'd see (a photo from March 24, 2011 released by the San Lorenzo de Almagro soccer team) __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

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Peregrine Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Cary, NC	When people say we need a younger Pope, maybe so, but John Paul II when he was elected in 1978 was the youngest Pope in 130 years. So it does occasionally happen, but even in earlier centuries it was common for Popes to be elders of the Church. __________________ Your guilty conscience may force you to vote Democratic, but deep down inside you secretly long for a cold-hearted Republican to lower taxes, brutalize criminals, and rule you like a king. --Sideshow Bob

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cuervo72 Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Maryland	Can Argentina be considered developing as opposed to...I dunno, already developed? They seem to have their shit together pretty well. Ok, maybe economically they're still considered "developing", though they're still in the G-20 and they appear to be Very High on the Human Development Index __________________ null Last edited by cuervo72 : 03-14-2013 at 07:42 AM.

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