"With the first pick in the NFL reallocation draft..."

Honolulu Blue · 09-23-2010, 09:13 AM

...who would you pick?

Let's set up a few assumptions:

* All current NFL players are eligible to be reallocated, and there's an agreement that they have to play for the new team that drafts them. Don't worry too much about their feelings.

* You're in charge of the draft for the team of your choice
* The draft is NOW, or a few days from now
* Your season starts in September 2011
* You are responsible for the contract rights of your chosen players starting in 2011
* You draft first in every round after this, a total of 53 rounds
* Your team drafts LAST in every round of the upcoming amateur draft
* There's no free agent compensation or anything like that

OK, I don't mean to make this too complicated; this is just a variation of the "if you had a blank franchise, who is the person you would take first?" question that we've had here a few times.

I feel woefully underqualified to answer, so I won't. I will say the guy I would have taken first the past five years or so, I wouldn't take first under these rules. I'm sure most of the people I would consider taking instead will be mentioned here.

With that, I'll get out of the way. Choose now. Choose wisely. Your team thanks you.

Mustang · 09-23-2010, 09:30 AM

I'd probably lean towards P. Manning, but I'd almost definitely take a QB. If I couldn't take a QB, I would look towards possibly Joe Thomas, Mario Williams or Revis.

Sounds like we need 32 FOFC people and do a mock 22 round draft and vote on the results.

Lathum · 09-23-2010, 09:31 AM

Joe Thomas was who I was thinking. Otherwise would have to be someone who can throw on the run, Big Ben maybe.

spleen1015 · 09-23-2010, 09:36 AM

Peyton Manning, no question about it.

Jughead Spock · 09-23-2010, 09:47 AM

Drew Brees. What he did with and for New Orleans wasn't a fluke or coincidence. I don't know that he's the absolute best talent, but A) he's close, and B) his intangibles are off the charts.

bhlloy · 09-23-2010, 09:52 AM

I would choose Brees as well. He's 3 years younger than Manning and right now, a better QB IMO.

I think you would almost have to go QB, assuming that's what the majority (or even half) of the other teams in the first round would be looking for. No point in taking Joe Thomas if you get to the start of the second and the best QB left on the board is Matt Cassell.

bhlloy · 09-23-2010, 09:59 AM

DOLA - wonder how many people would have said Revis before the contract and the start he's had to the season?

Mustang · 09-23-2010, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by bhlloy

No point in taking Joe Thomas if you get to the start of the second and the best QB left on the board is Matt Cassell.

Which is why I said if I can't take a QB. Which, IMHO, is a more interesting discussion. If I want QB discussions, I'll go to the weekly NFL threads.

MizzouRah · 09-23-2010, 10:00 AM

Very tough.. probably Peyton Manning, but Drew Brees is a close 2nd.

Abe Sargent · 09-23-2010, 10:03 AM

I'd want to go with a young QB who looks to be the next Manning rather than going with one who's 34.

Matt Schaub is 29 and 5 years younger. I'd consider him.

Drew Brees is 31.

Brady is 33

Eli is 29

Big Ben has too many off the field issues.

So, I'd prefer to look at:

Matt Ryan, 25.

He has huge upside, young, and a lot of talent already developed.

Kodos · 09-23-2010, 10:13 AM

I'd take Manning.

Or Ryan Leaf if Manning was not available.

Scoobz0202 · 09-23-2010, 10:13 AM

Aaron Rodgers (He's what, 25, 26?). Maybe Jake Long.

Abe Sargent · 09-23-2010, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Scoobz0202

Aaron Rodgers (He's what, 25, 26?). Maybe Jake Long.

I was thinking about Rodgers instead of Ryan, I think that's a really good pick too

JPhillips · 09-23-2010, 10:47 AM

I'd take Manning.

I don't think you can look to build a dynasty at the expense of taking a player that's currently inferior because football has too many injuries. Take the best chance to get a Super Bowl now rather than hope to win three in a few years.

Eaglesfan27 · 09-23-2010, 10:47 AM

Aaron Rodgers would be my choice as well based on age and potential.

Kodos · 09-23-2010, 10:50 AM

Plus, Manning has been very durable. I think he could play into his early 40s, like Favre. Only without all the retirement stuff.

chesapeake · 09-23-2010, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Scoobz0202

Aaron Rodgers (He's what, 25, 26?). Maybe Jake Long.

This would be my choice, too. In my opinion, he is the best QB under 30 in the league.

Aylmar · 09-23-2010, 11:08 AM

I'm torn between a great young LT (Jake Long, Ryan Clady) or a disruptive force on defense (Mario Williams, Demarcus Ware).

jbergey22 · 09-23-2010, 11:15 AM

I would trade the #1 overall pick to someone that desperately wanted Manning or Brees.

If I kept the pick Id Rodgers because of his youth, mobility(because your line is going to likely suck), and accuracy.

I considered Joe Thomas or Ryan Clady but you just cant win in the NFL without a good QB. If you wait until round 2 you will be stuck with someone like Donovan McNabb as your QB.

BillJasper · 09-23-2010, 11:26 AM

Ben Roethlisberger or Aaron Rodgers

larrymcg421 · 09-23-2010, 11:26 AM

Brandon Jacobs.

Cmon, someone had to do it.

DeToxRox · 09-23-2010, 11:30 AM

It's a QB league so you have to go QB first. I'd personally be between Rodgers and Rivers with an edge to Rodgers. People give Rivers a ton of shit but I don't care, the guy is a warrior. His playoffs haven't been awe inspiring but he is going to win a SB one day.

The only other player I'd consider over a QB is Mario Williams since he is just about to enter his prime and an elite 4-3 DE is about the hardest position in the NFL to find besides a QB.

Fonzie · 09-23-2010, 11:32 AM

Rodgers, for all of the reasons cited above.

Racer · 09-23-2010, 11:32 AM

Probably either Rodgers or Brees.

Cringer · 09-23-2010, 11:36 AM

Rodgers, but I'm a Packer fan too so grain of salt and all that.....

Lathum · 09-23-2010, 11:43 AM

I think I would have to go with rodgers

Sun Tzu · 09-23-2010, 11:58 AM

JaMarcus Russell

TroyF · 09-23-2010, 12:05 PM

I love the talent Rodgers has, but I think he takes far to many sacks. I liken him to a more talented version of Rob Johnson in that regard. That impacts my picking of him for two reasons:

1) when he faces a good pass rush in the playoffs, I'm not confident he'll be able to avoid sacks.

2) With all the shots he takes, I can't imagine he'll stay healthy for long. He takes far more shots than any other big name QB.

It is a QB league. I would go with Manning. Yes, he's 34. But he's never had a ton of mobility (so what is age really going to take away?), he's never been hurt, and I think he would last me at least 6 years. (plenty of time to build a Super Bowl contender in today's NFL. I'd also love to have him around to mentor my next QB. If I were to take a QB in the 25-29 age range, I'd probably go with Rivers, even if I'd hate to cheer for the jack ass. (no need to go into the debate again, I think he's a jerk, it doesn't matter what I think, we can end it there)

Now, assuming a QB couldn't be taken, a lot of interesting names appear. Mario Williams, Patrick Willis, Revis, Ware, Thomas, Clady, Long, etc.

My personal choice would be one of those first two Barring injury, you have two hall of fame calibur players, already among the best at their positions in the league and both under the age of 26. Very nice.

NorvTurnerOverdrive · 09-23-2010, 12:10 PM

trade the pick for the first pick in the ammy draft and take luck/mallet/locker.

MikeVic · 09-23-2010, 12:15 PM

I saw Matt Ryan listed by someone. I wouldn't even think he'd be an upper-half first round choice, much less in the discussion for #1 overall?

jbergey22 · 09-23-2010, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by TroyF

I love the talent Rodgers has, but I think he takes far to many sacks. I liken him to a more talented version of Rob Johnson in that regard. That impacts my picking of him for two reasons:

1) when he faces a good pass rush in the playoffs, I'm not confident he'll be able to avoid sacks.

2) With all the shots he takes, I can't imagine he'll stay healthy for long. He takes far more shots than any other big name QB.

It is a QB league. I would go with Manning. Yes, he's 34. But he's never had a ton of mobility (so what is age really going to take away?), he's never been hurt, and I think he would last me at least 6 years. (plenty of time to build a Super Bowl contender in today's NFL. I'd also love to have him around to mentor my next QB. If I were to take a QB in the 25-29 age range, I'd probably go with Rivers, even if I'd hate to cheer for the jack ass. (no need to go into the debate again, I think he's a jerk, it doesn't matter what I think, we can end it there)

Now, assuming a QB couldn't be taken, a lot of interesting names appear. Mario Williams, Patrick Willis, Revis, Ware, Thomas, Clady, Long, etc.

My personal choice would be one of those first two Barring injury, you have two hall of fame calibur players, already among the best at their positions in the league and both under the age of 26. Very nice.

Did you really just compare Aaron Rodgers to Rob Johnson in some form? Rodgers took all them sacks early last season because his line was absolutely brutal FYI. Manning wouldnt have been able to do much better.

Mustang · 09-23-2010, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by jbergey22

Did you really just compare Aaron Rodgers to Rob Johnson in some form? Rodgers took all them sacks early last season because his line was absolutely brutal FYI. Manning wouldnt have been able to do much better.

Some of them were him holding the ball too long, alot of it was a crap o-line. He has seemed to rectify the situation in the 2nd part of the season and this year.

jbergey22 · 09-23-2010, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Mustang

Some of them were him holding the ball too long, alot of it was a crap o-line. He has seemed to rectify the situation in the 2nd part of the season and this year.

I just remember the game at the metrodome in which Rodgers took 8 sacks and he really didnt even have a chance on most of them. Allen would come in virtually untouched.

DaddyTorgo · 09-23-2010, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

I think I would have to go with rodgers

not eli?

Abe Sargent · 09-23-2010, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeVic

I saw Matt Ryan listed by someone. I wouldn't even think he'd be an upper-half first round choice, much less in the discussion for #1 overall?

I think Ryan looks great as a QB. Remember he's surrounded by a lot less talent, and has been in the league a lot less. Rodgers is going into his third year as a starter, but was on the bench for three before that. This is Ryan's third season as a starter, but without the benefit of three years growth on the bench behind a Hall of Fame QB. A lot of Pro Bowl level QBs learned the game from Favre as a backup - Hasselbeck, Brunell, Rodgers. Ryan doesn;t have those three years. So, as a QB, I think Ryan is in a really good place development wise for a player who came to a team with a lack of talent, and has looked very good from the start, entering his third year.

jbergey22 · 09-23-2010, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

not eli?

His team will be so good that he wont be in any close games where he will need Eli's "clutchness."

JPhillips · 09-23-2010, 01:03 PM

I'm feeling pretty good playing in a league where people take the third or fourth best player available.

DaddyTorgo · 09-23-2010, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Abe Sargent

I think Ryan looks great as a QB. Remember he's surrounded by a lot less talent, and has been in the league a lot less. Rodgers is going into his third year as a starter, but was on the bench for three before that. This is Ryan's third season as a starter, but without the benefit of three years growth on the bench behind a Hall of Fame QB. A lot of Pro Bowl level QBs learned the game from Favre as a backup - Hasselbeck, Brunell, Rodgers. Ryan doesn;t have those three years. So, as a QB, I think Ryan is in a really good place development wise for a player who came to a team with a lack of talent, and has looked very good from the start, entering his third year.

Yes

jbergey22 · 09-23-2010, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips

I'm feeling pretty good playing in a league where people take the third or fourth best player available.

Your not starting with great team. You are starting from scratch in which more than likely it will take a few years to get the pieces in place. If you draft Manning and dont win it in 4 years you will be starting over. Id take my chances with the 26 year old coming into his prime to build around.

Logan · 09-23-2010, 01:16 PM

I'd take Manning, who has shown he can win without a decent OL, and a bunch of other guys in the latter parts of their prime while others focus too much on getting younger guys who can be relied on for a decade. It's crazy to look beyond 3-5 years.

jbergey22 · 09-23-2010, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Logan

I'd take Manning, who has shown he can win without a decent OL, and a bunch of other guys in the latter parts of their prime while others focus too much on getting younger guys who can be relied on for a decade. It's crazy to look beyond 3-5 years.

So says Al Davis.

DanGarion · 09-23-2010, 01:18 PM

If Vince Young could bring it all together every game, he would be my pick. But since he still hasn't done that, Brees, Manning, Rodgers in that order.

JPhillips · 09-23-2010, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by jbergey22

Your not starting with great team. You are starting from scratch in which more than likely it will take a few years to get the pieces in place. If you draft Manning and dont win it in 4 years you will be starting over. Id take my chances with the 26 year old coming into his prime to build around.

Somebody is going to win in 2011 and while you're stocking pieces you hope will mature into a team that can win it all I'm going to pick players that can already win it all. It may not work, but I'll take production over potential eleven days out of ten.

Take the best player, play for today, and worry about tomorrow later. In a high turnover business like the NFL that's the best formula for championships.

DanGarion · 09-23-2010, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by jbergey22

Did you really just compare Aaron Rodgers to Rob Johnson in some form? Rodgers took all them sacks early last season because his line was absolutely brutal FYI. Manning wouldnt have been able to do much better.

I still remember my first USC game (against the Ducks in the early 90's) and Johnson getting sacked again and again. The fans actually cheered when he threw the ball away. We lost that game.

Logan · 09-23-2010, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by jbergey22

So says Al Davis.

Yeah, there was no growing period at all required for Jamarcus Russell and Darius Heyward-Bey.

JPhillips · 09-23-2010, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by jbergey22

So says Al Davis.

You can't compare a college draft to a reallocation draft. You don't know what any college player can do in the NFL. Manning, though, is a known commodity.

NorvTurnerOverdrive · 09-23-2010, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Logan

I'd take Manning, who has shown he can win without a decent OL, and a bunch of other guys in the latter parts of their prime while others focus too much on getting younger guys who can be relied on for a decade. It's crazy to look beyond 3-5 years.

1996 Carolina Panthers 12-4

1997 Carolina Panthers 7-9

1998 Carolina Panthers 4-12

MajikMan77 · 09-23-2010, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by jbergey22

I just remember the game at the metrodome in which Rodgers took 8 sacks and he really didnt even have a chance on most of them. Allen would come in virtually untouched.

Ah yes the game where our backup rookie tackle came in to replace the replacement (starting LG) because he sucked hard big time.

I'd pick Rodgers first, only because he'd probably cost me less money initially and has more mobility than Manning should the OL be waffer thin.

Vince, Pt. II · 09-23-2010, 01:44 PM

While this discussion is fairly interesting, I think an even more interesting one is what direction do you go in from there? I'd imagine 90% of us would take a QB first, maybe even more. So what do you do next? Focus on the O-Line? Skill position players on offense? Straight defense? I know a lot of it depends upon who is available, but as a general strategy for the draft, where are you going after QB?

I'd personally focus on offense as long as I could get marquee players. I'd try not to ignore the defense, but since I'm drafting a QB first, I want to protect that investment by providing him with protection and skill position players so he can produce.

jbergey22 · 09-23-2010, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Vince, Pt. II

While this discussion is fairly interesting, I think an even more interesting one is what direction do you go in from there? I'd imagine 90% of us would take a QB first, maybe even more. So what do you do next? Focus on the O-Line? Skill position players on offense? Straight defense? I know a lot of it depends upon who is available, but as a general strategy for the draft, where are you going after QB?

I'd personally focus on offense as long as I could get marquee players. I'd try not to ignore the defense, but since I'm drafting a QB first, I want to protect that investment by providing him with protection and skill position players so he can produce.

Id want a left tacke to protect the franchise player.

09-23-2010, 09:30 AM	#2
Mustang Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Wisconsin	I'd probably lean towards P. Manning, but I'd almost definitely take a QB. If I couldn't take a QB, I would look towards possibly Joe Thomas, Mario Williams or Revis. Sounds like we need 32 FOFC people and do a mock 22 round draft and vote on the results. __________________ You, you will regret what you have done this day. I will make you regret ever being born. Your going to wish you never left your mothers womb, where it was warm and safe... and wet. i am going to show you pain you never knew existed, you are going to see a whole new spectrum of pain, like a Rainboooow. But! This rainbow is not just like any other rainbow, its...

09-23-2010, 09:36 AM	#4
spleen1015 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003	Peyton Manning, no question about it. __________________ Why choose failure when success is an option?

09-23-2010, 10:03 AM	#10
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	I'd want to go with a young QB who looks to be the next Manning rather than going with one who's 34. Matt Schaub is 29 and 5 years younger. I'd consider him. Drew Brees is 31. Brady is 33 Eli is 29 Big Ben has too many off the field issues. So, I'd prefer to look at: Matt Ryan, 25. He has huge upside, young, and a lot of talent already developed. __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent Last edited by Abe Sargent : 09-23-2010 at 10:05 AM.

09-23-2010, 10:13 AM	#11
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	I'd take Manning. Or Ryan Leaf if Manning was not available. __________________ Author of The Bill Gates Challenge, as well as other groundbreaking dynasties.

09-23-2010, 10:13 AM	#12
Scoobz0202 Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Dayton, Ohio	Aaron Rodgers (He's what, 25, 26?). Maybe Jake Long. Last edited by Scoobz0202 : 09-23-2010 at 10:14 AM.

09-23-2010, 09:31 AM	#3
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	Joe Thomas was who I was thinking. Otherwise would have to be someone who can throw on the run, Big Ben maybe.

09-23-2010, 09:47 AM	#5
Jughead Spock High School Varsity Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Lowcountry, SC	Drew Brees. What he did with and for New Orleans wasn't a fluke or coincidence. I don't know that he's the absolute best talent, but A) he's close, and B) his intangibles are off the charts.

09-23-2010, 09:52 AM	#6
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	I would choose Brees as well. He's 3 years younger than Manning and right now, a better QB IMO. I think you would almost have to go QB, assuming that's what the majority (or even half) of the other teams in the first round would be looking for. No point in taking Joe Thomas if you get to the start of the second and the best QB left on the board is Matt Cassell.

09-23-2010, 09:59 AM	#7
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	DOLA - wonder how many people would have said Revis before the contract and the start he's had to the season?

09-23-2010, 10:00 AM	#9
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Troy, Mo	Very tough.. probably Peyton Manning, but Drew Brees is a close 2nd.

09-23-2010, 10:47 AM	#14
JPhillips General Manager Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Newburgh, NY	I'd take Manning. I don't think you can look to build a dynasty at the expense of taking a player that's currently inferior because football has too many injuries. Take the best chance to get a Super Bowl now rather than hope to win three in a few years. __________________ To love someone is to strive to accept that person exactly the way he or she is, right here and now.. - Mr. Rogers

09-23-2010, 10:47 AM	#15
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	Aaron Rodgers would be my choice as well based on age and potential. __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen.

09-23-2010, 10:50 AM	#16
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	Plus, Manning has been very durable. I think he could play into his early 40s, like Favre. Only without all the retirement stuff. __________________ Author of The Bill Gates Challenge, as well as other groundbreaking dynasties.

09-23-2010, 11:08 AM	#18
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09-23-2010, 11:15 AM	#19
jbergey22 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Minnesota	I would trade the #1 overall pick to someone that desperately wanted Manning or Brees. If I kept the pick Id Rodgers because of his youth, mobility(because your line is going to likely suck), and accuracy. I considered Joe Thomas or Ryan Clady but you just cant win in the NFL without a good QB. If you wait until round 2 you will be stuck with someone like Donovan McNabb as your QB. Last edited by jbergey22 : 09-23-2010 at 11:15 AM.

09-23-2010, 11:26 AM	#20
BillJasper Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Northern Kentucky	Ben Roethlisberger or Aaron Rodgers

09-23-2010, 11:26 AM	#21
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09-23-2010, 11:30 AM	#22
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	It's a QB league so you have to go QB first. I'd personally be between Rodgers and Rivers with an edge to Rodgers. People give Rivers a ton of shit but I don't care, the guy is a warrior. His playoffs haven't been awe inspiring but he is going to win a SB one day. The only other player I'd consider over a QB is Mario Williams since he is just about to enter his prime and an elite 4-3 DE is about the hardest position in the NFL to find besides a QB.

09-23-2010, 11:32 AM	#23
Fonzie Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Illinois	Rodgers, for all of the reasons cited above.

09-23-2010, 11:32 AM	#24
Racer College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fort Wayne, Indiana	Probably either Rodgers or Brees.

09-23-2010, 11:36 AM	#25
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09-23-2010, 11:43 AM	#26
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	I think I would have to go with rodgers

09-23-2010, 11:58 AM	#27
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09-23-2010, 12:05 PM	#28
TroyF Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	I love the talent Rodgers has, but I think he takes far to many sacks. I liken him to a more talented version of Rob Johnson in that regard. That impacts my picking of him for two reasons: 1) when he faces a good pass rush in the playoffs, I'm not confident he'll be able to avoid sacks. 2) With all the shots he takes, I can't imagine he'll stay healthy for long. He takes far more shots than any other big name QB. It is a QB league. I would go with Manning. Yes, he's 34. But he's never had a ton of mobility (so what is age really going to take away?), he's never been hurt, and I think he would last me at least 6 years. (plenty of time to build a Super Bowl contender in today's NFL. I'd also love to have him around to mentor my next QB. If I were to take a QB in the 25-29 age range, I'd probably go with Rivers, even if I'd hate to cheer for the jack ass. (no need to go into the debate again, I think he's a jerk, it doesn't matter what I think, we can end it there) Now, assuming a QB couldn't be taken, a lot of interesting names appear. Mario Williams, Patrick Willis, Revis, Ware, Thomas, Clady, Long, etc. My personal choice would be one of those first two Barring injury, you have two hall of fame calibur players, already among the best at their positions in the league and both under the age of 26. Very nice.

09-23-2010, 12:10 PM	#29
NorvTurnerOverdrive College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2008	trade the pick for the first pick in the ammy draft and take luck/mallet/locker.

09-23-2010, 12:15 PM	#30
MikeVic Head Coach Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Hometown of Canada	I saw Matt Ryan listed by someone. I wouldn't even think he'd be an upper-half first round choice, much less in the discussion for #1 overall?

09-23-2010, 01:03 PM	#37
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09-23-2010, 01:16 PM	#40
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	I'd take Manning, who has shown he can win without a decent OL, and a bunch of other guys in the latter parts of their prime while others focus too much on getting younger guys who can be relied on for a decade. It's crazy to look beyond 3-5 years.

09-23-2010, 01:18 PM	#42
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09-23-2010, 01:44 PM	#49
Vince, Pt. II Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Somewhere More Familiar	While this discussion is fairly interesting, I think an even more interesting one is what direction do you go in from there? I'd imagine 90% of us would take a QB first, maybe even more. So what do you do next? Focus on the O-Line? Skill position players on offense? Straight defense? I know a lot of it depends upon who is available, but as a general strategy for the draft, where are you going after QB? I'd personally focus on offense as long as I could get marquee players. I'd try not to ignore the defense, but since I'm drafting a QB first, I want to protect that investment by providing him with protection and skill position players so he can produce.

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