1967-68 Offseason Thread (Preseason 1968 file is up!)

[Young Drachma]

(all exports are due at 10pm eastern time)

Monday: Last chance to resign your own players, Sim to start of free agency
Tues night: Sim to December 1st (Trade window begins from tonight's sim)
Wednesday night: Sim to pre-season, Draft lists available. (March 1st)
Thursday night: Trade deadline, Draft is conducted, Run Spring Training (no fatigue on), sim to opening day (trade window ends)
Friday night: Last chance to export (set lineups/depth charts, last chance to export before start of new season)
Saturday-Sunday: Season simmed.

[Chief Rum]

I find it really interesting that, as of this post, perhaps the most dominant offensive force on the planet is still unsigned to an extension for next year.

[Cringer]

I wonder how a guy would do jumping up from A ball to the majors as a starting pitcher? I may find out this year, at least in spring training. SP Pepe Santana seems to have improved a little.

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by Cringer

I wonder how a guy would do jumping up from A ball to the majors as a starting pitcher? I may find out this year, at least in spring training. SP Pepe Santana seems to have improved a little.

If his ratings and abilities are good enough, he should be fine. Check out Carlos Gonzales on my team, he is a starting pitcher that went from HS to AAA. I debated about throwing him into the majors though at the time. His AAA season was a bit rocky, but this year he was an all star at age 20.

I had another guy Sam Harmon (catcher now plays for Compton) that I did something similar with. Went directly from college to the pros, never played in the minors. His first two years were passable but nothing great, but this year for Compton was his break out year and he played well..

So if your guy has good enough ratings, it might be worth a shot for you at least.

[Commo_Soldier]

Congrats Allpro! On a side note do certain boxscore links not appear for you? Every boxscore I click on is a 1966 box score not 1967. In addition I noticed a player was signed by Compton in my news but it said he was happy to go to St. Louis? Just some oddities I thought I would see if I am alone in experiencing them or if others see the same things.

[Cringer]

Originally Posted by Alan T

If his ratings and abilities are good enough, he should be fine. Check out Carlos Gonzales on my team, he is a starting pitcher that went from HS to AAA. I debated about throwing him into the majors though at the time. His AAA season was a bit rocky, but this year he was an all star at age 20.

I had another guy Sam Harmon (catcher now plays for Compton) that I did something similar with. Went directly from college to the pros, never played in the minors. His first two years were passable but nothing great, but this year for Compton was his break out year and he played well..

So if your guy has good enough ratings, it might be worth a shot for you at least.

I might give it a shot, spring training is locked in for the guy for sure at the least. My #5 starter was a rookie who isn't living up to expectations since I signed him a few years back now. I was thinking of dropping him down to AAA and bringing up another rookie for the 5 slot. This guy night as well get a shot. Pepe Santana dominated at A in '67, with an 18-2 record, 1.42 ERA, 24 walks to 202 Ks and an OAVG of .169, so the guy is at the least starting in AAA. Three 'green' ratings have me wanting him in the majors though.

[Young Drachma]

Catching exports and processing the start of free agency file. It's time for another off-season of FOOL action!

[Tellistto]

Goodbye Hideaka Tanaka. New York will miss you.

Tell

[Young Drachma]

It's awards time!

1967 FOOL AWARD WINNERS
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CONTINENTAL LEAGUE MVP: Rick Inman, Valdosta
2nd place: Tyler Reilly, Rio Grande
3rd place: Edgardo Reyes, Valdosta

REPUBLIC LEAGUE MVP: Andy Nolan, Hartford
2nd place: Juan Rodriguez, Ann Arbor
3rd place: Riley Hollis, El Paso

REPUBLIC LEAGUE PITCHER OF THE YEAR AWARD: Pancho Duran, Ann Arbor
2nd place: Alberto Vargo, Ann Arbor
3rd place: Walt Withcombe, Colorado

CONTINENTAL LEAGUE PITCHER OF THE YEAR AWARD: Tom Williams, Baltimore
2nd place: Joe Morris, Texas
3rd place: Bryan Hughes, Valdosta

CONTINENTAL LEAGUE ROOKIE OF THE YEAR: SP Carlos Gonzales, Valdosta
2nd place: Connor Daniels, Rio Grande
3rd place: Luke Parker, Rio Grande

REPUBLIC LEAGUE ROOKIE OF THE YEAR: Henry McKinney, Compton
2nd place: Jorge Lopez, Boston
3rd place: Pat Maddox, Boston

[Young Drachma]

Uploading the file now. Sorry that I again forgot to include the entire seasons' worth of box scores. I turn off All during the off-season to reduce file size and forgot to turn it on in a mad dash to get you all the file. But all the box scores and such alike are all there now.

In any case, file is going up now and you should get all of your messages and whatever else coming to you for major league type things, for the offseason that is upon us.

Happy Free Agent Day!

[Young Drachma]

File is 43.45MB and it's online. Dated October 21, 1967. Tomorrow, we sim to December 1st.

[Young Drachma]

There are some pretty big names on the market this year. Probably the "biggest" free agent market we've seen ever. Should be interesting where the chips fall and who gets where and how it helps them, I'd say.

[muns]

Just another rant that screams I have no idea what the hell im doing. 3 out of the 4 top free agents are or were from hartford this year........

[muns]

Originally Posted by Tellistto

Goodbye Hideaka Tanaka. New York will miss you.

Tell

Tell just out of curiosity what was he asking from you?

[muns]

Originally Posted by Dark Cloud

It's awards time!

1967 FOOL AWARD WINNERS
----
CONTINENTAL LEAGUE MVP: Rick Inman, Valdosta
2nd place: Tyler Reilly, Rio Grande
3rd place: Edgardo Reyes, Valdosta

REPUBLIC LEAGUE MVP: Andy Nolan, Hartford
2nd place: Juan Rodriguez, Ann Arbor
3rd place: Riley Hollis, El Paso

REPUBLIC LEAGUE PITCHER OF THE YEAR AWARD: Pancho Duran, Ann Arbor
2nd place: Alberto Vargo, Ann Arbor
3rd place: Walt Withcombe, Colorado

CONTINENTAL LEAGUE PITCHER OF THE YEAR AWARD: Tom Williams, Baltimore
2nd place: Joe Morris, Texas
3rd place: Bryan Hughes, Valdosta

CONTINENTAL LEAGUE ROOKIE OF THE YEAR: SP Carlos Gonzales, Valdosta
2nd place: Connor Daniels, Rio Grande
3rd place: Luke Parker, Rio Grande

REPUBLIC LEAGUE ROOKIE OF THE YEAR: Henry McKinney, Compton
2nd place: Jorge Lopez, Boston
3rd place: Pat Maddox, Boston

DC you do these, or did the AI do them? Pretty solid choices IMO...... Nolan gets his second straight MVP for Hartford

[Young Drachma]

I did everything except the rookie of the year, since it was my guy that got picked for the RL, even though he was probably the top choice, I let the AI decide on that one and they picked him, so I let it stand. But I picked the rest, because the AI values VORP much too highly and doesn't pick using "real" eyes, etc.

And I never picked the Best Nine, because I'm too lazy to bother.

[gstelmack]

Glad to see Lopez and Maddox in the running for rookie of the year. The young guys really stepped up last season, and now they've got a year under their belt. My SS Osario in particular, who hit .205 for the season last year, was hitting .250 in August and September...

[muns]

Originally Posted by gstelmack

Glad to see Lopez and Maddox in the running for rookie of the year. The young guys really stepped up last season, and now they've got a year under their belt. My SS Osario in particular, who hit .205 for the season last year, was hitting .250 in August and September...

I love what you have done with the young guys, you have shaped yourself up and are looking quite nice this offseason IMO

[Tellistto]

Originally Posted by muns

Tell just out of curiosity what was he asking from you?

He asked for a three year deal worth 15.51 million per. I wouldn't give it to him.

Of course he's only asking for 10 mil over 6 years now. Just find it interesting that the best rated hitter on the market is only valueing himself at 10 mil a season, given that he was making 15.48 the season before.

Tell

[Young Drachma]

My take is that he's the best player in the game and that he's still got some years left in him, but you have to wonder about the later years of that deal and how he'll hold up.

Strange too, is how many young catchers we have floating around the league. I remember when there were none and now it seems everybody seems to have one.

But he's a difference maker and with the DH finally showing up in RL land, he could surely make someone a contender with his bat.

[muns]

Originally Posted by Tellistto

He asked for a three year deal worth 15.51 million per. I wouldn't give it to him.

Of course he's only asking for 10 mil over 6 years now. Just find it interesting that the best rated hitter on the market is only valueing himself at 10 mil a season, given that he was making 15.48 the season before.

Tell

That does seem cheap, but I doubt its gonna be in the 10-12 range that gets him. Gonna be real interested to see who takes the plunge on him and for how many years

[Young Drachma]

With less than 30 minutes to go before we kick off the free agency period (I'm eager!), I gotta say that this got to be the Golden Age in FOOL. Never before have we had so many teams who are 1) thinking they're in the race or 2) positioning themselves to be competitive. It's really a fun and exciting situation for the league.

Next year will be great as we finally get our scheduling situation intact, too, because I'm intrigued to see how the new leagues shape up and how the league is affected by the DH, etc.

Should be awesome.

[Chief Rum]

Can I get a couple minutes? I have been running the WW game nonstop, so I haven't been able to finish my bids. Will only take a few minutes at most.

[Young Drachma]

::looks at clock::

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by Dark Cloud

::looks at clock::

Exported. Thanks.

[Young Drachma]

Alright kids..it's gametime. Time to check the dust from the most exciting offseason yet!

[Young Drachma]

Here are some of the deals I've seen so far:

Will Thompson, 2B, (LBI) signed a 2-year deal worth $3.14 million with Compton.

Raleigh Wildridge, RF (Compton) signed a 2 year deal worth $3.28 million with Ann Arbor

[JetsIn06]

Had to stay out of FA this year because of the trade I made, but I'm very happy with my starting pitching now.

[Young Drachma]

I'll consummate that Hartford/Seattle trade too, since I'm here.

[Commo_Soldier]

So anyone willing to admit who their #1 target was? Mine was Joe Morris, I have a feeling many are looking for SP's unfortunately

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by JetsIn06

Had to stay out of FA this year because of the trade I made, but I'm very happy with my starting pitching now.

Same here, I was pretty much near cap space.. so put out some small offers, but no big splashes. I guess for the most part I'll be returning roughly the same team next year. As not many people seem to need starting pitching to trade for either.

[Young Drachma]

Seattle trade processed. Now at $64.1 million in payroll


John Donovan, LF (CPT) signed a 4 year deal worth $31.74 million with El Paso

Joe Morris, SP (TEX) signed a 7 year deal worth $96.41 million with Compton

Todd King, MR (CPT) signed a 3 year deal worth $3.255 million with Baltimore

[Young Drachma]

Juan Nunez (HAR) signed a 5 year deal worth $42.5 million with Colorado

Mike McBridge (CTN) signed a 2 year deal worth $7.55 million with Baltimore

Alonso Margo (CGO) signed a 4 year deal worth $16.67 million with Baltimore

[Commo_Soldier]

Originally Posted by Alan T

Same here, I was pretty much near cap space.. so put out some small offers, but no big splashes. I guess for the most part I'll be returning roughly the same team next year. As not many people seem to need starting pitching to trade for either.

I am in desparate need of SP my top guy is 2 1/2 stars.

[Young Drachma]

Here's the biggun:


Teruo Miyahara, 3B (International) signed a 6 year deal worth $86 million with Colorado

[Commo_Soldier]

Originally Posted by Dark Cloud

Seattle trade processed. Now at $64.1 million in payroll


John Donovan, LF (CPT) signed a 4 year deal worth $31.74 million with El Paso

Joe Morris, SP (TEX) signed a 7 year deal worth $96.41 million with Compton

Todd King, MR (CPT) signed a 3 year deal worth $3.255 million with Baltimore

Dang you Compton

[muns]

Originally Posted by Dark Cloud

Juan Nunez (HAR) signed a 5 year deal worth $42.5 million with Colorado

Mike McBridge (CTN) signed a 2 year deal worth $7.55 million with Baltimore

Alonso Margo (CGO) signed a 4 year deal worth $16.67 million with Baltimore

Good sign for Colorado, Nunez is a beast, i had to let him go cause I couldnt afford 5 mil per season with my payroll...... real sad to see him leave Hartford

[Young Drachma]

Hideaki Tanaka, C (NYH) signed a 6 year deal worth $57.87 million with Rio Grande

[muns]

Originally Posted by Dark Cloud

Here's the biggun:


Teruo Miyahara, 3B (International) signed a 6 year deal worth $86 million with Colorado

That guy is a beast as well....... sigh....... Colorado is looking damn good right now, and that was BEFORE FA!!!!!!!

[Young Drachma]

Uploading the file now. Looks like Colorado is serious, Baltimore is making a run for it and well....the rest we can see for ourselves. What a start!

[Young Drachma]

Gotta say (file is packing...) that Colorado made some shrewd moves to burnish what they're hoping is a run at the RL title this year. Really smart to give a kid that young a deal like that, get the good years out of 'em and then get rid of 'em. Really shrewd. I think paying a middle reliever as much as they did was strange, but..short of that, smart stuff.

Rio Grande gets the coup getting Tanaka to go south, let's hope that's the only thing that goes south for him.

Gotta say I'm thrilled to have Joe Morris back. I hope that he rewards my faith in him with some strong seasons in LA.

[Young Drachma]

I don't really know who else got signed and the file is packing, so I can't look, but...I wonder if there are other guys out there like Jake Brewer and others. Seems like the teams who have holes should be hitting the trade market as we approach draft day later this week.

The file is 44 MB and is uploading now. (2%)

[Commo_Soldier]

I have a question about the draft. Would it be possible to do our own draft lists in game using the builtin utility for those of us that choose to do so since the list can be auto-complied by scouts or not filled in at all for those not wishing to select their first few rounds.

[Young Drachma]

Originally Posted by Commo_Soldier

I have a question about the draft. Would it be possible to do our own draft lists in game using the builtin utility for those of us that choose to do so since the list can be auto-complied by scouts or not filled in at all for those not wishing to select their first few rounds.

Yes, you can do your own draft lists in-game. But not until the draft appears and it won't appear until after the pre-season starts. No matter what, you all will have 24 hours to complete your draft lists before we start the draft, so don't worry about it happening again without at least getting a chance to make sure you get some say in who your team picks.

File is at 38%

[Commo_Soldier]

Originally Posted by Dark Cloud

Yes, you can do your own draft lists in-game. But not until the draft appears and it won't appear until after the pre-season starts. No matter what, you all will have 24 hours to complete your draft lists before we start the draft, so don't worry about it happening again without at least getting a chance to make sure you get some say in who your team picks.

File is at 38%

Ok, I was unsure. I thought it would both appear and be simmed tomorrow evening.

[Young Drachma]

Originally Posted by Commo_Soldier

Ok, I was unsure. I thought it would both appear and be simmed tomorrow evening.

Tomorrow evening is when it ought to be revealed. It'd be simmed the night after. I know I think it lists Wednesday night on the schedule, but that's not right, because you all need a night to see the draft pool. So that should say Thursday night. Sorry.

67%

[Young Drachma]

File is up. Marked December 1, 1967.

[allpro10050]

Rio Grande got a bargain on tanaka

[Cringer]

Downloading the file still, but YES!!! I got Tanaka? I love that, he was really the only big name I was going after that I remember, with some of the other stars being at spots where I wanted some youngsters to come up and play.

C though has been a slight pain for me. My starter over several years now has actually played better the last couple of seasons and I have been happy with him but Tanaka is a major upgrade. I started right away trying to bring young guys into the system and so far none have worked out really. Tanaka is a great guy to see sign with the Roadrunners.

[JeeberD]

Ugh...ONE signing after all the offers I made. We're screwed...

Edit: OK, make that two signings.