Inception (movie discussion - SPOILER warning)

[Ronnie Dobbs2]

First reviews are coming out and are outstanding.

We round up Inception's early reviews. Does it live up to the hype?

Spoilers towards the end of the article, but they clearly delineate the spoiler-free part from the spoiler part.

Being compared to the best of Kubrick's work makes me even more excited to see this.

[MrBug708]

Keanu Reeves, Nicolas Cage, and Leo DiCaprio. One of these is not like the others.

Dicaprio is one of the most consistently good actors in Hollywood. It's only a matter of time til he wins an Oscar

[jeff061]

Cage in Adaptation was awesome. That movie alone makes it painful to see him in all his other garbage roles.

[Johnny93g]

Originally Posted by MrBug708

Keanu Reeves, Nicolas Cage, and Leo DiCaprio. One of these is not like the others.

Dicaprio is one of the most consistently good actors in Hollywood. It's only a matter of time til he wins an Oscar

I can't believe you actually grouped these 3 together!!!

I know what your saying though, Leo has become on of my favourite actors, i've enjoyed just about everything he's done in the last 10 to 12 years. Even things he did in the 90's, like This Boy's Life, Basketball Diaries and The Man in the Iron Mask. I'm really looking forward to Inception

[Pyser]

saw this 2 weeks ago.

its excellent.

[Lathum]

It looks like a live action Paprika.

[BishopMVP]

Originally Posted by DanGarion

Growing Pains?

I didn't watch TV at that age, so my first exposure to Leo was when Titanic came out in Middle School. I can admit now I may not have given him a fair shake based off his fanbase.

Movie comes out Thursday. I really hope it does well because otherwise Hollywood is going to swing even further towards sequels, remakes and movies based off Ashton Kutcher and Cameron Diaz.

“Nobody thinks it’s a bad movie,” an executive from a rival studio stressed. “The question is whether it’s going to be the real breakout picture that everybody seems to think or just the darling of the East and West coasts and miss the rest of the country.”
There lies the rub: how to entice Middle America without a lot of complicated explication? The Nolan and DiCaprio connections obviously help, not to mention a supporting cast including Michael Caine, Ellen Page and Marion Cotillard. But what’s a marketing challenge like this doing in the middle of popcorn-pic season?

Awareness has been slow to spread, but a high percentage of those with knowledge of the film show a “definite interest” in seeing “Inception.” Executives around town offer an unusually wide range of projections for the opening weekend, at $40 million-$60 million.
Nolan’s penchant for cinematic riddles has some suggesting the picture basically is a big-ticket art film. Cost estimates run upward of $160 million on “Inception,” which totes a 148-minute running time. “It’s the most expensive version of ‘Memento’ you could ever make,” an exec from a rival studio quipped, referring to Nolan’s acclaimed 2000 debut. “But it is unique in the marketplace, and I credit them for that.”

[Chief Rum]

This movie is brilliant.

[BishopMVP]

$21 million on Friday, much better than the Sorcerer's Apprentice at least. I give it a 9/10. Definitely worth seeing in a theater, and I'll be interested to see how it holds up to a repeat viewing.

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If anything, it didn't have a real emotional climax because it was just non-stop intensity for the last like hour and a half. Maybe it was because this was the first Nolan movie where I felt like I knew where the plot was going (Cobb being responsible for his wife's death, the top still spinning at the end) or just that Cobb's emotional journey was filled with too much expository dialogue between him and Ellen Page - almost like it got dumbed down after early test-screening. There were also a couple things that confused me - the freight train in dream level 1, was it part of Fischer's defenses, was it Mal messing with Cobb, was it Cobb's mind falling apart? The second was with the forger - he could clearly alter the dream-states - looking like Browning/changing what's in the vault based off what Fischer tells him/pulling out a rocket-launcher at the warehouse - so why wouldn't he pull out a rocket launcher or something similar again during the snow fortress scene instead of engaging in hand to hand combat? Maybe I'm overthinking this

[JetsIn06]

Amazing amazing amazing amazing.

[dawgfan]

Originally Posted by BishopMVP

Maybe I'm overthinking this

I enjoyed the hell out of it when I saw it Thursday night, and was curious when some of my co-workers were picking it apart yesterday. They made some good points, but I'm not really sure I care - I was caught up in the moment. What will be interesting is how I react when I see it again.

[BishopMVP]

Originally Posted by dawgfan

I enjoyed the hell out of it when I saw it Thursday night, and was curious when some of my co-workers were picking it apart yesterday. They made some good points, but I'm not really sure I care - I was caught up in the moment. What will be interesting is how I react when I see it again.

It's the downside to having such high expectations going in - I'll focus on picking apart the little flaws instead of admiring the beauty of the forest. Don't get me wrong though - I loved it. That last hour and a half - I don't think I've ever seen a film that kept the tension up that high for taht long across multiple levels and storylines. I can complain a little about the script, but the production and direction was phenomenal across the board.

[samifan24]

An amazing movie going experience. I've been a Nolan fan since Memento and even own his first film out of film school, Following, and he's never steered me wrong. Inception is simply fantastic.

[MikeVic]

Awesome. I feel like I need to watch it again.

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I like that I was so occupied with following the story that I didn't even predict the ending being the simplest solution!

[Lathum]

Ok. I have to het a baby sitter and see this.

[Scoobz0202]

Watched it last night. Recruited a friend to go back with me today. I need to watch it again. It was great great great.

[Scoobz0202]

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On my second go around I am going to see if I can verify either of these

1) It's real

2) Michael Caine was the architect. The whole thing was a dream. He is trying to perform an Inception on Leo. To either see if he killed his daughter or to try and bring him back to reality

3) Mal was right. She escaped by killing herself, and Leo is still stuck in Limbo.

4) This is all a reward from Salto. He promised to get him back home to see his kids and this is really the only way. To get him so deep in Limbo, maybe even a level beyond Limbo, that Leo doesn't know it's fake.

[TroyF]

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I'm not sure how it could be #3. He admitted to planting the idea in her head.

I know this thing has tons and tons of levels, but you know what? In my mind the damned thing fell over and he's back home with his kids. That's my dream and I'm sticking to it.

Ridiculously good movie.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Just go back from this.

An amazing movie. Beautiful. Impeccably paced. Interesting. Fantastic stuff.

[Scoobz0202]

Originally Posted by Scoobz0202

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On my second go around I am going to see if I can verify either of these

1) It's real

2) Michael Caine was the architect. The whole thing was a dream. He is trying to perform an Inception on Leo. To either see if he killed his daughter or to try and bring him back to reality

3) Mal was right. She escaped by killing herself, and Leo is still stuck in Limbo.

4) This is all a reward from Salto. He promised to get him back home to see his kids and this is really the only way. To get him so deep in Limbo, maybe even a level beyond Limbo, that Leo doesn't know it's fake.

On second viewing I've decided it has to be 1. That's my final answer.

[sabotai]

Lots of good reviews for this so far. I'm going to try to get out and see it during the week.

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by Scoobz0202

On second viewing I've decided it has to be 1. That's my final answer.

I haven't seen it a second time yet. I'm not sure which of your options it is, but after the first time, I didn't think it was 1. Care to expand (in spoiler tags, of course) on why you now think it's 1?

[SunDevil]

Inception Explained: Unraveling The Dream Within The Dream

[Scoobz0202]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

I haven't seen it a second time yet. I'm not sure which of your options it is, but after the first time, I didn't think it was 1. Care to expand (in spoiler tags, of course) on why you now think it's 1?

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No real concrete evidence but he uses his totem 3-5 times throughout the movie, most of those times is when he comes out of a stress filled dream of his wife. Each time the totem fell over. What else would the end be? Limbo? I just don't buy that. Saito reached for the gun as Cobb explained it to him in Limbo.

The only thing that makes me question it is the children. They were wearing the same exact clothes and were in what I believe is the same position as the memory, which may mean it is still the memory. Except they did turn and look at him, which they never did in the memories we saw.

[cyril]

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just testing to see if I know how the spoiler tag works... so I could submit my real post.

[cyril]

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I came away believing the last scene was also a dream. My reason for it is not because of the children - the appearance of the same clothes, same postures, etc. could be deja vu.... but all the setups that happened before:

first, throughout the first part of the movie, Cobb just showed up at all these different exotic locations seemingly conveniently to recruit his team, then these team members again seemingly show up collectively at the same place with apparently no time gap at all. True, it could be that the director did not want to bother with showing all the nuances of these characters traveling back and forth... however, it's his decision to go out of the way to show these guys scattered all over the world that prompted me to think that it's a setup to explain the finale... that we are in a layer of dream all along.

In addition to that, the mysterious Michael Caine is indeed too mysterious, first he's a tenured professor in Paris, then in the finale he appears at the airport, seemingly to have been living there for a long time with his grand kids. There is nothing truly illogical in this, the professor could take a break to take care of the kids while Cobb is on exile... but given how meticulous Nolan is... the way he just brushed over any explanation for Michael Caine, I think this is an intentional setup that the appearance of Caine is in a dream.

In the end of the movie, I believe there are a total of six layers of dreams/limbo involved.

[bhlloy]

Amazing, amazing movie. Not exactly what I expected but just very well done and kept you thinking the whole way through, with some very well done action scenes.

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The more I think about, the more I like the idea of Michael Caine being the key to the whole plot. He hand picks Ariadne to take the job, and she's very agressive at getting to the bottom of Cobb's background and what really happened with his wife. If she's working for the Professor, she's there for one reason and that's to find out what really happened to his daughter. There's the inconsistencies of him being in Paris while his wife is in LA looking after the kids and the fact that he seemingly drops everything at the end of the movie to move back to LA with Cobb. I don't think Nolan leaves a character with that many holes unless there is a good reason behind it.

That still leaves me no nearer to figuring out the ending though (is it the professor "forgiving" his son in law and allowing him to come back to his kids in reality, is it a dream that he/Ariadne has created or is it some form of limbo?)

[Pyser]

i bit my tongue on this for a while, but i did all the junket interviews for this movie. they went to various sites, mostly in the uk. but heres the one i did with nolan.

on the way in, i told him all of us press were sitting out in the hallway still trying to figure out the movie. he just smiled, but wouldnt indulge me. anyway, heres a link to my interview:

Exclusive Interview: Christopher Nolan Talks Inception : HeyUGuys – UK Movie Blog

[JediKooter]

[BishopMVP]

Estimated $60.4 million opening weekend, at the high end of expectations, and word of mouth only seems to be helping.

Originally Posted by cyril

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I came away believing the last scene was also a dream. My reason for it is not because of the children - the appearance of the same clothes, same postures, etc. could be deja vu.... but all the setups that happened before:

first, throughout the first part of the movie, Cobb just showed up at all these different exotic locations seemingly conveniently to recruit his team, then these team members again seemingly show up collectively at the same place with apparently no time gap at all. True, it could be that the director did not want to bother with showing all the nuances of these characters traveling back and forth... however, it's his decision to go out of the way to show these guys scattered all over the world that prompted me to think that it's a setup to explain the finale... that we are in a layer of dream all along.

In addition to that, the mysterious Michael Caine is indeed too mysterious, first he's a tenured professor in Paris, then in the finale he appears at the airport, seemingly to have been living there for a long time with his grand kids. There is nothing truly illogical in this, the professor could take a break to take care of the kids while Cobb is on exile... but given how meticulous Nolan is... the way he just brushed over any explanation for Michael Caine, I think this is an intentional setup that the appearance of Caine is in a dream.

In the end of the movie, I believe there are a total of six layers of dreams/limbo involved.

Thoughts, mostly on the ending.

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I'm leaning towards the dream explanation as well, but pretty much for the exact opposite of your post. I think the kids being the same age is the giveaway. I know we don't have an exact timeline, but given that he's evidently been on the run doing multiple jobs for corporations and the time to set up this operation you have to figure it's been at least 2 years since he fled, which is a significant difference given the ages of the kids.

I don't think believing the final scene is a dream means the rest of it is a dream too, although it's an interesting theory to think about. The travel doesn't bother me - Leo/JG-L/Watanabe start in Japan, Watanabe gives Leo/JGL his private plane to fly anywhere, they go to Paris to meet Page, Leo takes a trip to Kenya to meet the Forger/the Chemist where Watanabe shows up again, they go back to Paris and finally to Sydney. Since Watanabe owns his private plane in the beginning and buys the airline near the end, I don't think the travel is outlandish. They have research on Fischer, the Forger is working for him, Page is learning how to run the program and they show the team doing a walkthrough of at least level 1. I mean, the movie is already close to 2:30 - did you really need to see Leo on the planes between each place or more of a montage of Ellen Page learning to manipulate the dream world to believe that time is passing?

Caine is even easier to explain. The movie implies that the kids are living in the US with his wife, Leo's mother-in-law, while Caine continues to teach in Paris. Leo says on the phone in the beginning that he's sending presents with grandpa, and Caine tells Leo that it will take more than that for the kids to keep believing they have a father, implying that he's made the trip back and forth multiple times. Plus, if we are to believe that just post-Leo waking up in the airplane is a dream, Caine doesn't really have to be at the airport picking him up anyways. I'm also not sure Caine needs to forgive Leo - Caine is the link between Leo and his kids while the Grandmother doesn't want to deal with him.

[Scoobz0202]

Originally Posted by BishopMVP

Estimated $60.4 million opening weekend, at the high end of expectations, and word of mouth only seems to be helping.Thoughts, mostly on the ending.

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I'm leaning towards the dream explanation as well, but pretty much for the exact opposite of your post. I think the kids being the same age is the giveaway. I know we don't have an exact timeline, but given that he's evidently been on the run doing multiple jobs for corporations and the time to set up this operation you have to figure it's been at least 2 years since he fled, which is a significant difference given the ages of the kids.

I don't think believing the final scene is a dream means the rest of it is a dream too, although it's an interesting theory to think about. The travel doesn't bother me - Leo/JG-L/Watanabe start in Japan, Watanabe gives Leo/JGL his private plane to fly anywhere, they go to Paris to meet Page, Leo takes a trip to Kenya to meet the Forger/the Chemist where Watanabe shows up again, they go back to Paris and finally to Sydney. Since Watanabe owns his private plane in the beginning and buys the airline near the end, I don't think the travel is outlandish. They have research on Fischer, the Forger is working for him, Page is learning how to run the program and they show the team doing a walkthrough of at least level 1. I mean, the movie is already close to 2:30 - did you really need to see Leo on the planes between each place or more of a montage of Ellen Page learning to manipulate the dream world to believe that time is passing?

Caine is even easier to explain. The movie implies that the kids are living in the US with his wife, Leo's mother-in-law, while Caine continues to teach in Paris. Leo says on the phone in the beginning that he's sending presents with grandpa, and Caine tells Leo that it will take more than that for the kids to keep believing they have a father, implying that he's made the trip back and forth multiple times. Plus, if we are to believe that just post-Leo waking up in the airplane is a dream, Caine doesn't really have to be at the airport picking him up anyways. I'm also not sure Caine needs to forgive Leo - Caine is the link between Leo and his kids while the Grandmother doesn't want to deal with him.

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I wonder how accurate your two years guess is because with these dreams you can have an hour conversation in five minutes, and when we get into dreams within dreams the time gets even more crazy. You can do a lot of work/jobs in a short amount of time with the dreams.

[chadritt]

Originally Posted by rowech

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Another point on the time aspect....how has Saito aged in all the time that Leo was looking for him but Leo hasn't? That doesn't make sense. It has to be something setup to make Leo believe he has found the final level he was looking for.

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He got there first and grew that old before Cobb arrived. Remember, time passes exponentially so by that point minutes for Cobb were closer to years for Saito.

[BishopMVP]

Originally Posted by Scoobz0202

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I wonder how accurate your two years guess is because with these dreams you can have an hour conversation in five minutes, and when we get into dreams within dreams the time gets even more crazy. You can do a lot of work/jobs in a short amount of time with the dreams.

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The 2 years+ guess is assuming that the initial level we see - starting when they wake up on the train in Japan, continuing through Paris, Mombasa, and their boarding the Sydney-LA flight is all real. If that level is a dream, then yes, any timeline is possible.

[Scoobz0202]

Originally Posted by BishopMVP

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The 2 years+ guess is assuming that the initial level we see - starting when they wake up on the train in Japan, continuing through Paris, Mombasa, and their boarding the Sydney-LA flight is all real. If that level is a dream, then yes, any timeline is possible.

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Good points, and since I'm not sure I believe it was a dream.. I don't know. When you mentioned that about the children I thought about it more and the complexity of this movie is too much for Nolan to end it with an oversight of making the children the same age and in the same clothes. I really do not know what happened anymore

[PadresFan104]

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The best argument/theory for the end being real that I have heard yet is the thought that the top isn't actually Cobb's totem. (Remember the safe in Mal's house?) The top is Mal's totem. Cobb's totem is his wedding ring and he doesn't have it on in the end. He does have it on every time in the movie when they are "dreaming" and doesn't have it on when they are in "reality." The top is to fool the other characters of his true totem but I guess it's also supposed to fool the audience - which it has done really well if this theory is correct!!

There's also a rumor that at the end of the film after the cutoff, you can hear the top stop, but since the audience usually makes too much noise at that moment, you can't hear it... Sure will be interesting to see if this one is true!!

Finally, I'm dissapointed that we never saw the girl use her chess piece totem...

[spleen1015]

Saw this last night. I thought it was pretty awesome. I have no idea what is what and I'm not sure I have any theories. I enjoy reading what everyone else has to say though.

[OldGiants]

Excellent movie. When I get a chance and figure out the spoiler tags, I'll post my interpretation of the ending, which is a bit different from any one else's here.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Fellas, maybe we should ask Bishop to change the title of this thread to include a big ole *SPOILERS WITHIN* warning. It's pretty clear that people want to discuss the movie in this thread and a series of *spoiler tag* posts is silly.

[Logan]

Personally I don't think that's even necessary...the movie has already been released, seems like fair game to me.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Originally Posted by Logan

Personally I don't think that's even necessary...the movie has already been released, seems like fair game to me.

Necessary? No. But it's still polite.

[MikeVic]

I like reading people's theories on what happened. I can't wait for the commentary on the dvd/blue ray!

[Logan]

Originally Posted by MikeVic

I like reading people's theories on what happened. I can't wait for the commentary on the dvd/blue ray!

I think it's really cool to read all the theories, even if I'm 100% convinced that there's no way Nolan thought of all these possibilities that I've read (there's some real crazy shit out there). I'd be really surprised if even Nolan felt like he had the "answer" instead of just his own opinion.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Apparently Nolan had been working on this script for 10 years, so, while I doubt he's thought of every potential intepretation, I'm sure he's considered many of them.

I, too, like the ambiguity of the ending. It provides great fodder for discussion and lets the viewer decide for himself what actually happened.

As for my thoughts...

1. I don't really believe the whole movie was a dream or that Michael Caine was the architect of it all. I firmly believe that the real world was the "real world" up until they entered Robert's dreams on the plane. After that, things get a bit trickier...

2. I know one bit of evidence folks of the, Cobb's stuck in a dream world theory, point to is the fact that 1) his kids haven't aged and 2) they are dressed the same. I am not sure if there's any way to really gauge how long it's been since Cobb left home. He still had to explain to his son that "mommy wasn't coming home", so perhaps it wasn't that long. Less than a year perhaps? The amount of travel time isn't really an issue. Saito was funding the project. The man bought an airline. He can get people back and forth to places pretty quickly. Anyway, apparently, according to IMBD credits, there are two credits for each kid. So, it appears as if, they could have used different kids for the shots, thus implying that they were in fact older (by some degree) in the final shot than they appeared in Cobb's dream visions. As for the same outfits, well, coincidence? Dunno.

3. If Cobb was stuck in a dreamworld, I think it would have started around the time he decided to stay in Limbo to find Saito. In that case, it's likely that neither Saito or Cobb ever made it back to reality. So, it's possible that the old man Saito was just a projection in Cobb's mind. Granted, Saito died in Dream World 1 (and all the others) a bit before Cobb decided to stick in Limbo land, so it's possible, given the super accelartion of time, that he grew old fast, whereas Cobb didn't. But, it's also possible that old Saito was just a projection of Cobb's and he created that encounter with Saito to make it more believable to himself that he got Saito back, Saito honored his part of the bargain and Cobb got got to "go home." Maybe that was his way of performing an "inception" in his own mind. He gave himself the idea that he succeeded in his task and, thus, gets his reward.

That sort of mirror's Nolan's protagonist's actions at the end of "Momento", where he uses his "ability" - short term memory loss - to deliberty trick himself into believing he was still looking for his wife's killer to give him purpose, because, with out that, he would be lost.

4. Another thing. At the end of the movie, Cobb gets home and spins that top. In every other scene when he did that, he always waited to watch it fall. Always. In the last scene, however, he spins it, watches it for a second or two, and then goes to see his kids. He doesn't seem to care at all whether it's a dream or reality. And, if he doesn't care, what difference does it really make? (Unless, of course, it is a dream and, at some point, like in that long dream with his wife, he realizes it's all just a facisimile and it starts to crumble/drive him mad.) Does that mean that his "inception" took? Or was he just excited to see his kids and the top eventually stopped spinning.

[PadresFan104]

Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

And, if he doesn't care, what difference does it really make?

I keep coming back to this point in my mind. Whether it falls or not, I think Cobb is finally at peace. Happy ending either way. (Dream or Reality)

[spleen1015]

I took him walking away from the top at the end as his final step in letting go of Mal since it was her totem.

[Honolulu_Blue]

One thing that puzzled me just now...

I am not one to really jump all over the particulars of this movie and the various rules that it established. I think, overall, the rules were pretty tightly adhered to. And, if there are some holes or inconsistencies, so be it, they were minor and didn't really annoy me or irritate me in anyway. I think a lot of it can be explained by saying, it took place in a dream, stuff in dreams often doesn't make a lot of sense and there's definitely a certain flexibility one has in dreams, even if certain rules are followed.

One example that comes to mind, is that I've heard/read some people complain about Eames. They say that if he was able to "conjure up" a gernade launcher at one point and turn himself into Robert's uncle, why didn't he do this sort of thing other times it would be useful? Say, like when he'd fighting that artic assault squad.

My take on all of that is this: We know Eames can take the shape of someone else in a dream whom he studies. As for "conjouring" things, that's debatable. He does have that line "you need to dream bigger" when he pulls out the gernade launcher. For those who think he just conjured it out of nothing is quite an assumption. Who is to say that Ariadne, who constructed the dream, didn't put guns in the safehouse and that Arthur pulled a assault rifle to use and Eames grabbed a gernade launcher and the "dream bigger" line wasn't something to be taken literally? You recall, Arthur and Eames had an early discussion about Arthur not being "original" enough. So, it's really just an assumption (incorrectly, I believe) that Eames has the ability to conjure something up in a dream out of whole cloth.

Even if he could conjure something, maybe he needs time to do it. He needs to concentrate. That seemed to be the case when he turned into the other guy. Also, maybe he needs to be very familiar with what he conjures. In the warehouse, he had the time to concentrate to conjure a gernade launcher, a weapon that he is, perhaps, familiar with in the real world. In the snow sequence, maybe he didn't have the time concentrate to conjure something and/or has no way to conjure something he's not at all familiar.

Anyway, that was a side track. To my original point:

Assuming that in the end he's back in the real world and that the mission was successful, how exactly did he get Saito out of Limbo?

Presumably, he convinced Saito to pick up the gun and kill himself, which would then wake him up, much like when Cobb and Mal woke up when the train ran over their heads when they were in Limbo. And, presumable, Cobb then took the gun and killed himself, waking himself up.

However, when Cobb and Mal killed themselves in Limbo they weren't under that powerful sedative. They were just sleeping under the normal amount of chemcials and, thus, presumably dying at any point would have woken them up. Here, however, both Cobb and Saito were under the super chemical in which killing doesn't wake you up, but rather sends you to Limbo, so why would killing yourself in Dream Limbo wake you up if you're still under the sedative?

I guess, perhaps the sedative could have worn off by the end of the flight, when they awoke, and at that point and dying in a dream would have its normal effect.

[spleen1015]

The one thing I never did grasp was how Saito and Cobb got out of limbo. I think I missed some dialogue.

[bhlloy]

Yeah that was a little weak. I think it was explained that he just couldn't do it to her, but that's not the most convincing explanation ever.

I also agree with HB's take on Eames. I didn't get the impression that he could just conjur things out of air and I think people are taking that one scene too literally. I think it was mentioned at some point that he would really have to study the godfather to have any chance of pulling it off, it's not like he's a shapeshifter.

[dawgfan]

Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

Anyway, apparently, according to IMBD credits, there are two credits for each kid. So, it appears as if, they could have used different kids for the shots, thus implying that they were in fact older (by some degree) in the final shot than they appeared in Cobb's dream visions.

Hmm, did it strike anyone else that when Cobb had the phone conversation with his kids that the daughter sounded older than the vision of her we'd seen elsewhere in the movie? If there were indeed 2 actors each for both of the kids, maybe one set was for the phone call...