The Supreme Court Wrecking Ball (and state balls too)

[CrimsonFox]

Originally Posted by Toddzilla

no Trout option I take it...

it was TROUT YOU!

[SirFozzie]

"We need to make sure that abortion does not become legal in our state, but 58% of the state thinks it should be legal."

"Well, that's simple, we just make it that they need 60%. Easy"

(58% of the state votes against the change)

(shocked pikachu face)

[CrimsonFox]

still have half of cleveland and a third of toledo to count still.

[CrimsonFox]

so I did not know this so did some digging...here are the other states' numbers:

[GrantDawg]

Measure won by nearly 58%, but Kari Lake is already beating the "frard" drum. Republicans never lose elections, they either win or won and was cheated.

[Lathum]

Someone should fire that woman into the sun

[CrimsonFox]

jesus. the ohio secretary of state is complaining that "dark money" has "flooded into the state" to spread disinformation about issue 1 and that's why it was defeated. These people have no reality.

uggggggggggh

he's doing the trump thing since money from GOP superpacs flooded in here. franted there may have been some aclu or prochoice ads playing i dunno. but as usual any ads about that were giving the facts. That the gop hastily threw this together to stop the abortion ballot and that's all this is about. While the GOP ads were dressed up like "Evil people are here to destroy the constitution". oh yeah? this has been the case for years and it hasn't been destroyed already?
he's saying the constitution is for sale now. um....well...dude that's indeed what lobbyists do.

[CrimsonFox]

Originally Posted by Lathum

Someone should fire that woman into the sun

nice leela reference

[Lathum]

No idea what that means.

[Toddzilla]

If they didn't like losing the referendum by 20-points, they're gonna really hate the results of the abortion amendment this fall

[Edward64]

Good move by SCOTUS.

Supreme Court blocks $6 billion opioid settlement that would have given the Sackler family immunity | CNN Politics

The Supreme Court on Thursday blocked Purdue Pharma from going forward with bankruptcy proceedings, which the Biden administration has called an “unprecedented” arrangement that would ultimately offer the Sackler family broad protection from opioid-related civil claims.

In agreeing to pause the settlement, the court also said it would take up the case and hear arguments this December.

The case arose after the reorganization in bankruptcy of OxyContin manufacturer Purdue Pharma – stemming from litigation arising from claims over its role in fueling the opioid addiction crisis.

I watched Billy McBride in Goliath. I know he could have gotten at least $15B

The family has now agreed to contribute up to $6 billion to Purdue’s reorganization fund on the condition that the Sacklers receive a release from civil liability.

I don't really know who owned or managed or directed whatever. But glad SCOTUS is taking another look at this.

“The plan’s release ‘absolutely, unconditionally, irrevocably, fully, finally, forever and permanently releases’ the Sacklers from every conceivable type of opioid-related civil claim – even claims based on fraud and other forms of willful misconduct that could not be discharged if the Sacklers filed for bankruptcy in their individual capacities,” Solicitor General Elizabeth Prelogar argued in court papers.

Prelogar said that the release of the Sacklers is not authorized by the bankruptcy code and constitutes an “abuse of the bankruptcy system.”

[RainMaker]

Still wild that the Sacklers aren't on death row right now.

[CrimsonFox]

Originally Posted by Lathum

No idea what that means.

[RainMaker]

Not the Supreme Court but another Judge bought and paid for.

Trump Judge’s Anti-Abortion Ruling Followed Payments From Group Leading Case

[Ghost Econ]

You would think filing lawsuits by creating fake companies with fake grievances in order to set precedences would be highly illegal... but I guess the truth really ain't important in a Conservatives view of American justice.

The Supreme Court’s fake praying coach case just got faker.

[Thomkal]

Originally Posted by Ghost Econ

You would think filing lawsuits by creating fake companies with fake grievances in order to set precedences would be highly illegal... but I guess the truth really ain't important in a Conservatives view of American justice.

The Supreme Court’s fake praying coach case just got faker.

Not surprised he ended up in Florida or if he takes a coaching job there when his time in the limelight comes to an end. Or that the Supreme Court won't vacate the verdict now that its been exposed it was a fake from the Christian right. I hope reporters/investigators keep digging and find that it was fake all along.

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by Ghost Econ

You would think filing lawsuits by creating fake companies with fake grievances in order to set precedences would be highly illegal... but I guess the truth really ain't important in a Conservatives view of American justice.

The Supreme Court’s fake praying coach case just got faker.

I mentioned this in the Biden thread a few days ago. He's a local coach here so my wife and I had some discussions about it and didn't really see eye to eye, but one thing I was adamant about was he was doing this for money and attention. He was asked to stop, stooped for a while, "prayed about it", decided to keep doing it, was fired, and quickly found himself on right wing and other TV platforms, doing speaking engagements, and interviews. Getting fired was the best thing that ever happened to him financially and taking the job as an assistant high school football coach was a huge paycut from the right wing grift.

[RainMaker]

Not a legal expert but can you just lie in filings like that?

[Flasch186]

You can because lying is not a sin anymore to Christian’s.


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[RainMaker]

Is it considered perjury? Or an ethical violation? Like can I just make up a story and sue anyone with no repurcussions?

[flere-imsaho]

There's a certain horrendous asymmetry here where a progressive service nonprofit is forced to shut down when a right-wing activist creates doctored videos of its activities, but when right-wing groups now do exactly what that progressive organization was accused of doing (and far worse), they get SCOTUS decisions in their favor.

[flere-imsaho]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

Is it considered perjury? Or an ethical violation? Like can I just make up a story and sue anyone with no repurcussions?

It's super clear. If you're championing a right-wing cause, or have bought the SCOTUS Justice in question, then you have standing by default (and likely a judgment in your favor). Everyone else only has standing if Gorsuch, Roberts, and Kavanaugh decide it would be a bit much, even for them, to deny it.

It's a lot simpler than having to remember everything about constitutional law.

[Vegas Vic]

Looks like the MAGATs are livid at Barrett and Roberts for siding with the Biden administration on removing the physical barriers that Texas put up on the border.

Amy Coney Barrett Under Fire for Siding With Biden on the Border

[RainMaker]

Originally Posted by Vegas Vic

Looks like the MAGATs are livid at Barrett and Roberts for siding with the Biden administration on removing the physical barriers that Texas put up on the border.

Amy Coney Barrett Under Fire for Siding With Biden on the Border

When will those 4 judges get around to reading the Supremacy Clause? Like I know not to take the courts seriously, but even Scalia would have put together some bullshit dissent instead of just ignoring the actual Constitution.

[JPhillips]

TX National Guard is still refusing access and putting up more razor wire.

[RainMaker]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

TX National Guard is still refusing access and putting up more razor wire.

Biden should take federal control over the Texas National Guard. Problem solved.

[Ghost Econ]

Alabama Supreme Court, but there's not really a catch all "dumb things conservatives do."

Frozen embryos are now people. Time to start arresting people for disposing of frozen babies.

Alabama frozen embryos ruling: What it means for fertility treatments | AP News

[GrantDawg]

To follow that, the state legislature is working to pass a law that would ban many birth-control drugs and devices. Need those women poor and pregnant.

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[GrantDawg]

Oh, also to form a registry of women that have had abortions.

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[CrimsonFox]

Mandatory Red dresses and bonnets too?

[Kodos]

Why on earth would any female want to live in Alabama?

[GrantDawg]

White women vote for the party that sees them as breeding mares at around a 57% clip. They are the ones sowing the red cloaks and hoods.

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[GrantDawg]

This decision is like extremely bad. Further, the Chief Justice says no law that the legislature could pass can change it, because any law would be unconstitutional.

The Alabama Supreme Court ruling that embryos are legally children is worse than a lot of coverage implies. The majority and the chief justice suggest that EVEN IF the Alabama legislature attempts to re-legalize IVF, the state constitution will forbid it. https://t.co/OftImMpUHN pic.twitter.com/er5d4QEfg5

— Mark Joseph Stern (@mjs_DC) February 21, 2024

[cuervo72]

How is a state constitution based on the Bible even constitutional in the first place?

[HerRealName]

"Moderate" Nikki Haley agrees with the ruling because she thinks embryos are babies. They are all insane.

[miked]

If I did IVF in Alabama and had 10 frozen embryos, I may claim them all as dependents.

[RainMaker]

Originally Posted by miked

If I did IVF in Alabama and had 10 frozen embryos, I may claim them all as dependents.

Isn't there someone in Texas suing over being allowed to use the carpool lane while pregnant?

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

Isn't there someone in Texas suing over being allowed to use the carpool lane while pregnant?

I recall someone did that in Washington State when I lived there and lost.

[Mota]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

Isn't there someone in Texas suing over being allowed to use the carpool lane while pregnant?

I guess if the state legally considers it a human being, then you should be able to drive in the carpool lane.

[flere-imsaho]

If you're expecting logical consistency out of the Republican Party I have some really bad news for you.

[RainMaker]

Not that it should be surprising but the Chief Justice of the Alabama Supreme Court is a hardcore religious nut and a massive racist history.

[Edward64]

Originally Posted by HerRealName

"Moderate" Nikki Haley agrees with the ruling because she thinks embryos are babies. They are all insane.

Sounds like she is trying to do damage control. Article is from Thu (I think before Trump being for IVF).

Nikki Haley says she believes embryos are children but disagrees with Alabama Supreme Court ruling | CNN Politics

Former South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley said Thursday that while she personally believes a frozen embryo is a baby, she disagreed with the Alabama Supreme Court’s in vitro fertilization ruling last week and felt it may be time for the state to “go back and look at the law.”

In an interview on CNN’s “The Lead with Jake Tapper,” Haley sought to clarify her initial responses to the ruling, which found that frozen embryos are children in the eyes of the law and those who destroy them can be held to blame for wrongful death.

[Atocep]

Tuberville was asked about IVF facilities shutting down because of the Alabama ruling and he stated that he agrees with the ruling because we need more kids.

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by Edward64

Sounds like she is trying to do damage control. Article is from Thu (I think before Trump being for IVF).

Nikki Haley says she believes embryos are children but disagrees with Alabama Supreme Court ruling | CNN Politics

Trying to straddle the line here makes her sound even dumber. Pick a side. Her stance is that embryos are babies. That means 8-10 "babies" are killed, on average, for each person getting IVF treatment.

I'm not sure she even knows what her stance is on issues because she dances around every topic trying to appease the GOP base and moderates at the same time.

[Edward64]

I agree.

I'd like to see the Dems play this out more through Nov. Abortion rights plus IVF inconsistency/hypocrisy is a good rallying issue. I'd like a campaign along the lines of "re-elect Joe to prevent SCOTUS from getting even more extreme, or this stuff will get worse".

[RainMaker]

Originally Posted by Atocep

Trying to straddle the line here makes her sound even dumber. Pick a side. Her stance is that embryos are babies. That means 8-10 "babies" are killed, on average, for each person getting IVF treatment.

I'm not sure she even knows what her stance is on issues because she dances around every topic trying to appease the GOP base and moderates at the same time.

They all supported Dobbs which this Alabama decision is based on. They can dance around individual rulings but it all stems from that.