Werewolf XIX: Return to the Forest - Night(4)

[Poli]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

Thats getting dangerously close to a bet like the HT supporter...both of you should back off that one...Ardent, can you respond to why you have been fairly random with votes so far...i know you think it out, so im just wondering if im missing some deeper thought or something...

As for sun, penny, and i...we all said we were gone and id be very suspicious of us all. Sun and i more the penny, as were normally very active and used a reason to be quiet(if lying). Just a thought about myself as well to share around the pressure.

Yeah, that's what I was thinking as well. Proof outside the game shouldn't be allowed.

First vote: No clue, Barkeep slung a stone, I slung one at him. Short and sweet. That's why.

2nd vote: Uhm, Sndvls is voting for me, with no viable reason. Obviously, that makes me feel he has an agenda.

[Poli]

If you check my posts as well, I said I'd be travelling as well. Still got my vote in.

[Poli]

In other words, I've had no deep thoughts. Why not Grammaticus on day 1? Well, he says it was random, I tend to believe it. Day one is nothing but random fest. Besides I'd already cast my vote. Grammaticus didn't make it out that I was a wolf, either.

It wouldn't surprise me at all if Sndvls is found to be a wolf.

[WVUFAN]

Grammaticus seems to know more than he's saying. I'm gonna trust him. Once.


VOTE SALDANA
See, I bolded that one. :-)

[SnDvls]

Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

You've got to be kidding me. You keep mentioning your trip to Flagstaff as the reason you're not here, and throwing accusations my way? Be real, and start voting consistently, son.

I still got my vote in and I spent 13 hours on the road between Chicago and Bonne Terre MO (and back). Heaven forbid I have (gasp!) a job as well and that I don't have internet access at the moment to my computer.

Couple that with, I don't know, the fact my roommate's computer is dieing due to some SpyFighter/coolwwwsearch virus he got while I was gone, and you'll find out that I've tried to respond five friggin times just to this one post.

Give it up. I'm a villager. Go try and sell your dope somewhere else.

And you can email that Flagstaff crap to [email protected]. I'd like to see it.

it's quarter to 3 here now I'll be home @ 5 and send it your way.

[RPI-Fan]

Originally Posted by SnDvls

it's quarter to 3 here now I'll be home @ 5 and send it your way.

Please, do us all a favor and don't.

[SnDvls]

Originally Posted by RPI-Fan

Please, do us all a favor and don't.

fine I'll send it to you via PM, if you wish, then you can see.

I'll leave it at that per RPI's request

[RPI-Fan]

Originally Posted by SnDvls

fine I'll send it to you via PM, if you wish, then you can see.

I'll leave it at that per RPI's request

Didn't mean to sound like such a jackass... but it's pretty clear that it's an unnecessary outside influence, and wanted to say that, as (essentially) an outsider looking on, how silly the debate was.

Your wife got her masters -- everyone in the game should have been congrulating you and her, not wanting to see a photo-copy of her degree!

[Poli]

Agreed. I said I wanted proof in the heat of the moment. I get a little agitated when I'm wrongfully accused. I apologize. I shouldn't have said it. I knew it immediately after I posted it, but I'm unwilling to go back and edit a post, especially at this stage. Someone could misinterpret that.

[SnDvls]

Originally Posted by RPI-Fan

Didn't mean to sound like such a jackass... but it's pretty clear that it's an unnecessary outside influence, and wanted to say that, as (essentially) an outsider looking on, how silly the debate was.

Your wife got her masters -- everyone in the game should have been congrulating you and her, not wanting to see a photo-copy of her degree!

it didn't come across that way. I didn't intend for it to be and out or bet to clear me either, just givien you as the mod of the game a reason for my missing a vote, that is all.

ardent I'll drop it from here on out this is just a game. If you are having computer problems then that would explain your absence/lack of response to me, sorry. How were we supposed to know that? Just state it and it won't be held against you. I think we all would understand and we all have a gentlemen's agreement that bets and such won't be used anyhow.

Let's get back to hunting wolves

[Blade6119]

UNVOTE SALDANA
VOTE MCSWEENEY

Bandwagon is rolling, and since saldana is dead without defense(he said he would be gone till 9) i want it known i voted for mcsweeney....and i really dont think saldana is a wolf, but i dont know how to read gramat yet so i could be wrong

[SnDvls]

unvote ARDENT

[SnDvls]

dola -
based on the prior posts

[Poli]

Originally Posted by SnDvls

it didn't come across that way. I didn't intend for it to be and out or bet to clear me either, just givien you as the mod of the game a reason for my missing a vote, that is all.

ardent I'll drop it from here on out this is just a game. If you are having computer problems then that would explain your absence/lack of response to me, sorry. How were we supposed to know that? Just state it and it won't be held against you. I think we all would understand and we all have a gentlemen's agreement that bets and such won't be used anyhow.

Let's get back to hunting wolves

That said, I think I've finally got all the viruses out of his computer. He's buying Culver's to celebrate (though I could swindle him for Outback)! Woo!

[SnDvls]

let's assume that at least one wolf voted for St. C (as is usually par for the course)
that means that either Dubb, Saldana, or Raiders is a wolf.

so where do we go?

[Poli]

UNVOTE Sndvls.

I meant to do that earlier. I'll think about it while I'm eating and get back to you on your question.

[SnDvls]

VOTE RAIDERS ARMY

might he be helping too much?
I don't want to be on either the Dubb or Saldana bandwagons even though one of the three is probally a wolf. The other 2 or 3 cast a lone vote is my guess. That is the general strat. in these games.
might I be completely wrong?
input? anyone?

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by SnDvls

let's assume that at least one wolf voted for St. C (as is usually par for the course)
that means that either Dubb, Saldana, or Raiders is a wolf.

so where do we go?

If it were saldan i figured more people would be heping him out, which leaves dubb and raiders...again on dubb, as mostly it was just me defending him...which leave raiders, who i could see being a wolf

[SnDvls]

I think we should go for one of those three, but we need to also nail a wolf too before numbers get out of control for us.

[Raiders Army]

A lot has happened. I can tell you that I'm part of the posse to lynch the wolves, so I'm legit. Remember last game? Everyone who voted for the first guy to get lynched (I've had a little beer, so forgive me) was a villager (at least I was at that time (I was cursed)), so it is within the realm of possibility that everyone who voted for st. cronin was a villager.

[Poli]

VOTE RAIDERS ARMY

[Raiders Army]

Interesting.

[Barkeep49]

Well I was hoping for a quick read through and then a vote. But right now I'm more hungry than able to concentrate on what I'm reading. I will have a vote later this evening after dinner.

One point though Blade: Saldanna will be back before the lynch as deadline isn't until tomorrow morning.

[Poli]

Tomorrow? Interesting. I wasn't aware of that.

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

Tomorrow? Interesting. I wasn't aware of that.

Originally Posted by RPI-Fan

It is now Day(2). Lynch votes are due by 10:30am EST on Tuesday, December 20th.

As for my original point to Blade, I'm just pointing out that I'm not 100% concerned about a bandwagon at this point as there is still so much time left. Ok I'm going to embark on my more careful read now.

[pennywisesb]

Just got back from Tahoe. I'm going to try to hurry up and catch up with the thread....

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by Raiders Army

A lot has happened. I can tell you that I'm part of the posse to lynch the wolves, so I'm legit. Remember last game? Everyone who voted for the first guy to get lynched (I've had a little beer, so forgive me) was a villager (at least I was at that time (I was cursed)), so it is within the realm of possibility that everyone who voted for st. cronin was a villager.

This post contains information I know to be false.

Vote Raiders Army

[Barkeep49]

Dola -- Not only does it contain false information it makes me sad about what I had hoped could be a great assesst for the villagers.

[Barkeep49]

Double Dola:

Vote Order:
saldana - Dubb
dacman - dubb
Grammaticus - Saldana
dubb93 saldana
Raiders Army Pennywise
McSweeny saldana
WVUFAN saldana
Blade Mcsweeny
SnDvls Raiders
Ardent Raiders
Barkeep49 Raiders

Vote Count:
Dubb - saldana, dacman
Saldana - Grammaticus, dubb, mcsweeny, wvufan
Pennywise - Raiders
McSweeny - Blade
Raiders - SnDvls, Ardent, Barkeep49

No Vote: Penny, Schmidty Taz

[pennywisesb]

Sorry that I wasn't around for the weekend. I had posted that I was going to Tahoe and was supposed to get back late last night, but we ended up staying an extra night because of a bad storm and driving home today (which is about an 8 hour drive) so I just got back. I was able to catch up on the thread, and at this point I'm leaning towards RA for pretty much the same reasons as Barkeep. So, for now, I'm going to:

VOTE RAIDERS ARMY

[TazFTW]

VOTE RAIDERS ARMY

[SnDvls]

we know RA is a wolf....if not we know who is.
let's look for the other 2 or 3 now. most likely it's someone who threw out a single wasted vote or someone who piled on dubb to try and hide.

[SnDvls]

Originally Posted by RPI-Fan

Schmidty (1): Barkeep
Barkeep (2): ardent, Schmidty
st.cronin (4): saldana, dubb, Raiders, kingfc22
Raiders Army (1): st.cronin
ardent (1): Grammaticus
dubb (3): McSweeny, dacman, WVUFAN
dacman (1): TazFTW

Non-voters: Blade, pennywisesb, SnDvls

here's the day one votes.. I guess I should also add us non-voters too, although I'd suspect at least one of us is a wolf given how long it took to get night actions yesterday.

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by SnDvls

we know RA is a wolf....if not we know who is.
let's look for the other 2 or 3 now. most likely it's someone who threw out a single wasted vote or someone who piled on dubb to try and hide.

Who?

RA left off a very important part of the posse description. I'm not saying he isn't part of the posse, just that he didn't tell the truth when he described the posse.

[SnDvls]

I believe you Barkeep. let's leave it at that and hope the right person out there leaves you some wolf raid tonight.

[SnDvls]

dola - remember you and I were both wolves in the last game.
I see what you mean.

[Grammaticus]

On day one Saldana cast the first vote for St. Cronin. RA switched to St. Cronin and then King switched to St. Cronin. We know King was not a wolf, but RA facilitated the movement. It could be because the wolves saw Saldana was about to go down and had to act.

Then after King goes down, RA says its weird, he thought King was a wolf because he cast the swing vote for St. Cronin, when RA actually started the swing.

Then Raiders Army coyly says that all votes for the first kill in the last game were villagers. So what, this is not the last game. Why would you try to cover on your votes for this game with randomness from the last game?

Don’t take Raiders Army tonight. Take Saldana first. RA will still be around tomorrow. Saldana is a wolf and RA appears to be a wolf supporter.

[Raiders Army]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

This post contains information I know to be false.

Vote Raiders Army

What false information did I give?

[Raiders Army]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Who?

RA left off a very important part of the posse description. I'm not saying he isn't part of the posse, just that he didn't tell the truth when he described the posse.

Well, I tried to indirectly let you know I was part of the posse. Yes, wolves can be part of it, but I am not a wolf.

[Grammaticus]

Dola (I think I'm using that term correctly)

Oh yeah, RA voted for King originally on day one. From what I understand King is a good villager (smart at sniffing out wolves), so they targeted the strong first, but had to switch to protect a wolf. Then went ahead and eliminated the strong villager in the night kill.

[Schmidty]

VOTE SALDANA

[Raiders Army]

Originally Posted by Grammaticus

On day one Saldana cast the first vote for St. Cronin. RA switched to St. Cronin and then King switched to St. Cronin. We know King was not a wolf, but RA facilitated the movement. It could be because the wolves saw Saldana was about to go down and had to act.

Then after King goes down, RA says its weird, he thought King was a wolf because he cast the swing vote for St. Cronin, when RA actually started the swing.

Then Raiders Army coyly says that all votes for the first kill in the last game were villagers. So what, this is not the last game. Why would you try to cover on your votes for this game with randomness from the last game?

Don’t take Raiders Army tonight. Take Saldana first. RA will still be around tomorrow. Saldana is a wolf and RA appears to be a wolf supporter.

Please. I started the swing? Wouldn't whoever voted second be the person who started the swing? And I didn't say it coyly. I said it outright that everyone who voted for the first lynch last game was a villager.

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by Raiders Army

Well, I tried to indirectly let you know I was part of the posse. Yes, wolves can be part of it, but I am not a wolf.

Well that's the whole thing, isn't it? You didn't really say something indirectly you kinda shouted it. Why reveal yourself to the wolves when Saldana has 4 votes and you, at the time I believe, had 1 or 2? Further, being a posse member is no promise of innocence. Why out yourself at all knowing this?

[saldana]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

Those were two posts apart...saldana cast the first vote for the eventual lynch, and the guy that got night capped was the guy to vote for him first.....something to watch for sure..either a set up or bad wolf play

blade, i will answer to this first, if you read down a bit farther, King says that his vote for me was an accident, and he wanted to vote with me, not for me, and he changed it later

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Well that's the whole thing, isn't it? You didn't really say something indirectly you kinda shouted it. Why reveal yourself to the wolves when Saldana has 4 votes and you, at the time I believe, had 1 or 2? Further, being a posse member is no promise of innocence. Why out yourself at all knowing this?

What the hell is is posse...should i even ask or just shut up?

[Barkeep49]

Dola: With all members voting the info is:

Vote Order:
saldana - Dubb
dacman - dubb
Grammaticus - Saldana
dubb93 saldana
Raiders Army Pennywise
McSweeny saldana
WVUFAN saldana
Blade Mcsweeny
SnDvls Raiders
Ardent Raiders
Barkeep49 Raiders
Pennywisesb Raiders
TazTFW Raiders
Schmidty saldana

Dubb - saldana, dacman
Saldana - Grammaticus, dubb, mcsweeny, wvufan, Schmidty
Pennywise - Raiders
McSweeny - Blade
Raiders - SnDvls, Ardent, Barkeep49, penny, Taz

[saldana]

Originally Posted by Grammaticus

On day one Saldana cast the first vote for St. Cronin. RA switched to St. Cronin and then King switched to St. Cronin. We know King was not a wolf, but RA facilitated the movement. It could be because the wolves saw Saldana was about to go down and had to act.

and i will answer to this second

I dont even understand what he is talking about...i made my random vote on day one. RA switched, then King switched, King is dead, but when in the entire day was I about to go down that i would have needed anyone to move their votes off of me?!
I dont know what you think youre playing at grammaticus, but if this is the logic that you are using to call me a wolf, you need to hang out with Mr. Spock a little more, because this doesnt make a bit of sense to me.

[saldana]

[b]hey barkeep, should penny's vote be on raiders, too....just wondering how tight my noose is right now.

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

What the hell is is posse...should i even ask or just shut up?

Shutup.

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by saldana

[b]hey barkeep, should penny's vote be on raiders, too....just wondering how tight my noose is right now.

It is. I have 5-5 right now.