OT - Space Shuttle Poll

thetrilogy · 07-05-2005, 02:59 PM

Will the space shuttle mission with a planned launch for July 13th start/end in catastrophe again, or will it be a resounding success and reinvigorate the space shuttle program?

CraigSca · 07-05-2005, 03:02 PM

I think it'll be a success, but I'm surprised they're "risking it" by going before all the recommendations have been met. Then again, I don't know rocket science, so I'm not sure if all the recommendations are a sham or not.

Mustang · 07-05-2005, 03:08 PM

I'd vote that the shuttle would crash if I knew John Travolta was the pilot...

Glengoyne · 07-05-2005, 03:09 PM

Pretty much the pricks previously in charge are gone.

Hopefully the guy who wrote the "So the plan is to do nothing and just cross our fingers on re-entry?" memo is in charge of something.

sachmo71 · 07-05-2005, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by thetrilogy

Will the space shuttle mission with a planned launch for July 13th start/end in catastrophe again, or will it be a resounding success and reinvigorate the space shuttle program?

How about the missing choice? "It will go off as planned, America will pay attention for a few days before/after landing, then ignore it like they used to?"

NoMyths · 07-05-2005, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by sachmo71

How about the missing choice? "It will go off as planned, America will pay attention for a few days before/after landing, then ignore it like they used to?"

Word, except I'd strike the "pay attention" part. The only time most Americans are interested in the space shuttle is when one blows up.

Bubba Wheels · 07-05-2005, 04:52 PM

Space Shuttle is vital to our continuing a human presence in space. Shuttle is going to be used just long enough to complete the space station and then retired. Space station is critical for any next step involving moon colonies and future Mars missions. Although the really good news in all this are the guys doing space on the private side. Sixty minutes featured them on Sunday. Innovative and not bound by red-tape, NASA could stand to learn some things from them.

Senator · 07-05-2005, 04:53 PM

I would feel odd about betting on the fate of crew members.

Airhog · 07-05-2005, 04:55 PM

3 to 1 odds good enough for ya senator?

RPI-Fan · 07-05-2005, 04:57 PM

It's hard to imagine a scenario where this space shuttle has problems.

When the space program was first getting launched (no pun intended), NASA claimed to have failure rates of about 1 in 10,000. After the latest disaster that claim has basically been tossed out the window and most people with any knowledge of the program accept that failure rates are probably closer to 1 in 100.

I think the big question is, at that 1/100 number, are we willing to continue the space program?

~rpi-fan

Senator · 07-05-2005, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Airhog

3 to 1 odds good enough for ya senator?

Pick em

Swaggs · 07-05-2005, 05:04 PM

I'm reminded of this quote from the cinematic masterpiece "Armageddon:"

Rockhound (Steve Buscemi): You know we're sitting on four million pounds of fuel, one nuclear weapon and a thing that has 270,000 moving parts built by the lowest bidder. Makes you feel good, doesn't it?

Desnudo · 07-05-2005, 05:44 PM

They survive and learn a lot from their study of the impact of weightlessness on cucumbers.

JonInMiddleGA · 07-05-2005, 05:46 PM

I'm somewhere between Sachmo's answer & NoMyths' answer.

sterlingice · 07-05-2005, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

I'm somewhere between Sachmo's answer & NoMyths' answer.

Same.

It's a shame as I really love the space program, but no one else in this country seems to care. Maybe if we shot Michael Jackson, that runaway bride, Terry Schiavo's body, and a missing kid from Aruba into space- then NASA would get some airplay.

SI

hhiipp · 07-05-2005, 08:07 PM

I'm not a fan of the space program at all. When it comes to NASA all I can see is all sorts of money flying out the window with no real purpose.

Flame Eater · 07-05-2005, 08:13 PM

I think the current rate of disaster is once in every 84 shuttle mission? We have awhile to wait for the next tragedy.

sachmo71 · 07-05-2005, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by hhiipp

I'm not a fan of the space program at all. When it comes to NASA all I can see is all sorts of money flying out the window with no real purpose.

Anyone gonna take the bait? I'm full.

hhiipp · 07-05-2005, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by sachmo71

Anyone gonna take the bait? I'm full.

Sure I appreciate some of their inventions, velcro and such, but the whole sending ships to space thing is a sham.

Mustang · 07-05-2005, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by hhiipp

Sure I appreciate some of their inventions, velcro and such, but the whole sending ships to space thing is a sham.

I guess we can rule you out as being Columbus in a previous life...

sterlingice · 07-06-2005, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Mustang

I guess we can rule you out as being Columbus in a previous life...

Bad choice. Now all the revisionists can talk about how he sure as heck didn't go around butchering Native Americans, etc, and completely miss the point of your analogy.

SI

Neon_Chaos · 07-06-2005, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Mustang

I guess we can rule you out as being Columbus in a previous life...

or Magellan.

thetrilogy · 07-06-2005, 08:44 AM

I was a kid when the space shuttles first started flying. I've always been into space flight. I am all for this mission to be a success. I just have my doubts with equipment that is that old.
I flew these rockets this past weekend:
The Ram II rocket goes 900 feet. Awesome.

Blackadar · 07-06-2005, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by sachmo71

How about the missing choice? "It will go off as planned, America will pay attention for a few days before/after landing, then ignore it like they used to?"

ding!

WrongWay · 07-06-2005, 07:00 PM

I blame Nasa PR for their budget problems. Have you seen the NASA channel? IF you can watch some idiot cooking dinner on TLC, why not Some Astronaut from space cooking dinner? Should we watch white trash build a motorcycle or 2 astronauts Pass out in a weightlessness chamber? No PR is why Congress has completely gutted the Program

IN other words.

You get what you pay for.
Or.
If you are not going to do something right, you shouldn't do it at all.

View Poll Results: What will happen with the space shuttle mission, with lauch date of July 13th:
It will start/end in catastrophe, with a loss of the crew, thus ending the space shuttle program	2	5.71%
It will be a resounding success, reinvigorating the space shuttle program	33	94.29%
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07-05-2005, 03:02 PM	#2
CraigSca Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Not Delaware - hurray!	I think it'll be a success, but I'm surprised they're "risking it" by going before all the recommendations have been met. Then again, I don't know rocket science, so I'm not sure if all the recommendations are a sham or not. __________________ She loves you, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah! She loves you, yeah! how do you know? how do you know?

07-05-2005, 03:08 PM	#3
Mustang Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Wisconsin	I'd vote that the shuttle would crash if I knew John Travolta was the pilot... __________________ You, you will regret what you have done this day. I will make you regret ever being born. Your going to wish you never left your mothers womb, where it was warm and safe... and wet. i am going to show you pain you never knew existed, you are going to see a whole new spectrum of pain, like a Rainboooow. But! This rainbow is not just like any other rainbow, its...

07-05-2005, 04:53 PM	#8
Senator FOFC's Elected Representative Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The stars at night; are big and bright	I would feel odd about betting on the fate of crew members. __________________ "i have seen chris simms play 4-5 times in the pros and he's very clearly got it. he won't make a pro bowl this year, but it'll come. if you don't like me saying that, so be it, but its true. we'll just have to wait until then" imettrentgreen "looking at only ten games, and oddly using a median only, leaves me unmoved generally" - Quiksand

07-05-2005, 04:55 PM	#9
Airhog Captain Obvious Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Norman, Oklahoma	3 to 1 odds good enough for ya senator? __________________ Thread Killer extraordinaire Yay! its football season once again!

07-05-2005, 03:09 PM	#4
Glengoyne Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Fresno, CA	Pretty much the pricks previously in charge are gone. Hopefully the guy who wrote the "So the plan is to do nothing and just cross our fingers on re-entry?" memo is in charge of something.

07-05-2005, 04:52 PM	#7
Bubba Wheels College Starter Join Date: Jan 2004	Space Shuttle is vital to our continuing a human presence in space. Shuttle is going to be used just long enough to complete the space station and then retired. Space station is critical for any next step involving moon colonies and future Mars missions. Although the really good news in all this are the guys doing space on the private side. Sixty minutes featured them on Sunday. Innovative and not bound by red-tape, NASA could stand to learn some things from them.

07-05-2005, 04:57 PM	#10
RPI-Fan Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Troy, NY	It's hard to imagine a scenario where this space shuttle has problems. When the space program was first getting launched (no pun intended), NASA claimed to have failure rates of about 1 in 10,000. After the latest disaster that claim has basically been tossed out the window and most people with any knowledge of the program accept that failure rates are probably closer to 1 in 100. I think the big question is, at that 1/100 number, are we willing to continue the space program? ~rpi-fan __________________ Quis custodiets ipsos custodes?

07-05-2005, 05:04 PM	#12
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	I'm reminded of this quote from the cinematic masterpiece "Armageddon:" Rockhound (Steve Buscemi): You know we're sitting on four million pounds of fuel, one nuclear weapon and a thing that has 270,000 moving parts built by the lowest bidder. Makes you feel good, doesn't it? __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

07-05-2005, 05:44 PM	#13
Desnudo Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Here and There	They survive and learn a lot from their study of the impact of weightlessness on cucumbers.

07-05-2005, 05:46 PM	#14
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	I'm somewhere between Sachmo's answer & NoMyths' answer. __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

07-05-2005, 08:07 PM	#16
hhiipp College Prospect Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: OH	I'm not a fan of the space program at all. When it comes to NASA all I can see is all sorts of money flying out the window with no real purpose.

07-05-2005, 08:13 PM	#17
Flame Eater H.S. Freshman Team Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Albany, NY	I think the current rate of disaster is once in every 84 shuttle mission? We have awhile to wait for the next tragedy.

07-06-2005, 08:44 AM	#23
thetrilogy Mascot Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Ohio	I was a kid when the space shuttles first started flying. I've always been into space flight. I am all for this mission to be a success. I just have my doubts with equipment that is that old. I flew these rockets this past weekend: The Ram II rocket goes 900 feet. Awesome. Last edited by thetrilogy : 07-06-2005 at 08:46 AM.

07-06-2005, 07:00 PM	#25
WrongWay Banned Join Date: Jan 2005	I blame Nasa PR for their budget problems. Have you seen the NASA channel? IF you can watch some idiot cooking dinner on TLC, why not Some Astronaut from space cooking dinner? Should we watch white trash build a motorcycle or 2 astronauts Pass out in a weightlessness chamber? No PR is why Congress has completely gutted the Program IN other words. You get what you pay for. Or. If you are not going to do something right, you shouldn't do it at all.

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