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Old 02-16-2019, 07:38 AM   #1501
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They should just give him the Browns. Two birds, one stone and all.
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Old 02-16-2019, 09:49 AM   #1502
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So now that the collusion case is over-where does Kaep end up? Not on a team still but this time because he's not really a good QB? Does he decide not to play anyway for his health? What team needs a QB right now that would sign him?
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Old 02-16-2019, 10:25 AM   #1503
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So now that the collusion case is over-where does Kaep end up? Not on a team still but this time because he's not really a good QB? Does he decide not to play anyway for his health? What team needs a QB right now that would sign him?

I think something like Baltimore might be the best fit. That assumes that RGIII doesn't re-sign and that they don't go after Tyrod Taylor in free agency, or that they want to carry 3 QB's. Dude was 25-14 with Jim Harbaugh as a coach and 3-16 without.
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Old 02-16-2019, 10:32 AM   #1504
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So now that the collusion case is over-where does Kaep end up? Not on a team still but this time because he's not really a good QB? Does he decide not to play anyway for his health? What team needs a QB right now that would sign him?

If the settlement amount is true I imagine he's on a beach somewhere. When the AAF talked to him Kap demanded $20. If that's his asking price then I doubt he's serious about playing football again unless some team over pays him. Playing the victim card is more profitable to him than playing football right now.
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Old 02-16-2019, 03:21 PM   #1505
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I'd take Kaepernick in Cincinnati for sure. I think the guy could be in a better position to be successful now than he was, because the league has trended even more toward his style of play. He'd be a good bridge QB if the team doesn't want to extend Dalton in a year.
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Old 02-16-2019, 04:00 PM   #1506
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In a vacuum I think Kap could fit in a lot of places, but I think he's practically committed himself to not playing. Outside of that vacuum you'd have to pay top tier money to a guy who has a grudge against the entire league, hasn't played for years, and who immediately puts your entire organization under intense media & fan scrutiny. Seems obvious nobody is going to volunteer for that.
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Old 02-16-2019, 04:23 PM   #1507
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I'd take Kaepernick in Cincinnati for sure. I think the guy could be in a better position to be successful now than he was, because the league has trended even more toward his style of play. He'd be a good bridge QB if the team doesn't want to extend Dalton in a year.

But would you take Kap for 20 mil?
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Old 02-22-2019, 11:14 AM   #1509
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Old 02-22-2019, 11:16 AM   #1510
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For crying out loud....

I mean, I'm not THAT surprised, but at least hire an independent high-class escort. The prostitutes in the Florida massage parlors were mostly trafficked there.

This could get really big depending on the what this sting uncovered and where these women came from.

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Old 02-22-2019, 11:21 AM   #1511
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No judgement on the solicitation charge but some of the responses in that thread are hilarious.

Fellate-gate.
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Old 02-22-2019, 11:25 AM   #1512
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WHOLE LOT of deflated balls jokes out there.
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Old 02-22-2019, 11:27 AM   #1513
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No judgement on the solicitation charge but some of the responses in that thread are hilarious.

Fellate-gate.

I'm seeing a lot of attempts to tie prostitution ring in with the Super Bowl rings but no hits yet.
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Old 02-22-2019, 11:28 AM   #1514
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And Kraft isn't even the oldest guy on that list of Johns, though I guess that shouldn't be surprising in Florida. 85-year-old Daniel R. Young is still getting after it.
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Old 02-22-2019, 11:34 AM   #1515
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For crying out loud....

I mean, I'm not THAT surprised, but at least hire an independent high-class escort. The prostitutes in the Florida massage parlors were mostly trafficked there.

This could get really big depending on the what this sting uncovered and where these women came from.

That's the part of this that could get nasty in a hurry. If this were just your typical "rich famous guy gets caught with an escort" story then we'd all have a laugh and move on.

But preliminary reports are that this was human sex trafficking. Whether or not Kraft of the other participants knew that this was going on, it's a major factor in the story.

I think that this will go from "ha ha deflated balls" to "oh, shit" in pretty short order.

And if the Jupiter police did manage to rescue a bunch of sex slaves and are going to throw the guys who ran the place into jail for the rest of their lives, then great on the police.
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Old 02-22-2019, 11:34 AM   #1516
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The Colts do drugs and the Pats get cheap hookers.
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Old 02-22-2019, 11:57 AM   #1517
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That's the part of this that could get nasty in a hurry. If this were just your typical "rich famous guy gets caught with an escort" story then we'd all have a laugh and move on.

But preliminary reports are that this was human sex trafficking. Whether or not Kraft of the other participants knew that this was going on, it's a major factor in the story.

I think that this will go from "ha ha deflated balls" to "oh, shit" in pretty short order.

And if the Jupiter police did manage to rescue a bunch of sex slaves and are going to throw the guys who ran the place into jail for the rest of their lives, then great on the police.

That would be great, but I think it's just as likely that ICE just wants to deport a bunch of women.
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Old 02-22-2019, 02:12 PM   #1518
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Old 02-22-2019, 02:30 PM   #1519
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WHOLE LOT of deflated balls jokes out there.

I'm surprised there isn't more spygate jokes considering Kraft was allegedly filmed.
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Old 02-22-2019, 02:32 PM   #1520
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The Colts do drugs and the Pats get cheap hookers.

Jim Irsay got suspended 6 games and fined $500,000.

I wonder what the NFL punishment for prostitution and human trafficking is.
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Old 02-22-2019, 02:39 PM   #1521
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Man if I was worth billions, I wouldn't be spending $60 on a handjob from someone in a massage parlor. I'm sure I could send a few grand and have a lot more fun.
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Old 02-22-2019, 03:07 PM   #1522
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How do you think they become billionaires?

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Old 02-22-2019, 04:04 PM   #1523
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How do you think they become billionaires?

(Frugality.)

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Old 02-22-2019, 04:44 PM   #1524
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You don't become a billionaire by being cheap... but it's how you stay a billionaire!
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No judgement on the solicitation charge but some of the responses in that thread are hilarious.

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That's the part of this that could get nasty in a hurry. If this were just your typical "rich famous guy gets caught with an escort" story then we'd all have a laugh and move on.

But preliminary reports are that this was human sex trafficking. Whether or not Kraft of the other participants knew that this was going on, it's a major factor in the story.
Maybe they should have known, but I doubt anyone going to a rub n tug is looking into the background of the girls.

Assuming he's found guilty of the misdemeanors and gets or pleas to a fine with the state of Florida, I assume the NFL will fine him the $500k maximum amount, and maybe suspend him a few games like they did Jim Irsay. Maybe they even ask him to step back and hand more official control to Jonathan Kraft, which wouldn't be the worst thing. I love RKK for being a great owner, but it's been obvious for the few years since his wife passed he has his good days and his bad days.

I also haven't seen any sourcing, but I've heard the rumor that Jupiter PD is saying Kraft isn't the biggest sports figure tied in to this scandal. Hmm, who else lives there? Tiger Woods' House on Jupiter Island, Florida

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Old 02-25-2019, 03:38 PM   #1525
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DA released the Probable Cause affidavits on the 25 men involved today. I'm not sure whether more or coming, but the rumor of there being a bigger name tied to the scandal might have been false. Schefter, among others, reported it, so it must have had semi-legitimate sourcing.
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Old 02-25-2019, 09:39 PM   #1526
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DA released the Probable Cause affidavits on the 25 men involved today. I'm not sure whether more or coming, but the rumor of there being a bigger name tied to the scandal might have been false. Schefter, among others, reported it, so it must have had semi-legitimate sourcing.

I would assume that source had a Massachusetts area code.
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Old 02-26-2019, 04:02 PM   #1527
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DA released the Probable Cause affidavits on the 25 men involved today. I'm not sure whether more or coming, but the rumor of there being a bigger name tied to the scandal might have been false. Schefter, among others, reported it, so it must have had semi-legitimate sourcing.
An ex-Citigroup President was also tagged, but yes the sports angle seems completely made up. Unless like they got other names off files, but only charged the ones they caught on video. (Tiger Woods would've been the juiciest name, but iirc Jupiter and that area has a ton of golfers and a few other pro or ex-pro athletes.)

Looks like Kraft's defense will be the old hey, I was just paying for a massage, if she wanted to give me something extra who was I to say no?
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Old 02-27-2019, 03:31 PM   #1528
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The CFL says that no team can sign Manziel to a contract. So he's now done in Canada.

https://www.cbc.ca/sports/football/c...ract-1.5035959
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Old 02-27-2019, 04:55 PM   #1529
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After last year would any CFL team want to sign him to a contract? I imagine he may pop up in the AAF or XFL at some point?
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Old 02-27-2019, 10:15 PM   #1530
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Old 02-28-2019, 11:27 AM   #1531
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We're not going to have any referees in 10 years, a least at the youth level, unless courts start imposing referee service as a term of criminal probation.
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Old 02-28-2019, 12:17 PM   #1532
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Old 02-28-2019, 03:44 PM   #1533
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I know I'm in the minority here, but I'm a Booger fan. I'd put him in the booth and let that weird "third guy on a cart" experiment die.
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Old 02-28-2019, 03:46 PM   #1534
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And the crafty old man tight end (Watson, Olson, Witten) is my favorite genre of NFL player, so I am ALL ABOUT Witten coming back and catching 85 balls while running a 5.7 40 yard dash.
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Old 02-28-2019, 04:22 PM   #1535
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We're not going to have any referees in 10 years, a least at the youth level, unless courts start imposing referee service as a term of criminal probation.

Robot refs!
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Old 03-01-2019, 10:26 AM   #1536
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How Patriots owner Robert Kraft could get off in prostitution case

Not even trying on the headline but some good info.
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Old 03-01-2019, 02:19 PM   #1537
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Not even trying on the headline but some good info.

I thought the default was that he is not going to be found guilty.
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Old 03-01-2019, 02:43 PM   #1538
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I thought he was presumed to be innocent.
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Old 03-01-2019, 03:00 PM   #1539
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I thought he was presumed to be innocent.

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Old 03-01-2019, 05:26 PM   #1540
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After last year would any CFL team want to sign him to a contract? I imagine he may pop up in the AAF or XFL at some point?
I was inferring that he was trying to leave the CFL to play in the AAF already, and the CFL beat him to the punch. I mean, he's better than Christain Hackenburg and Zach Mettenberger.

Does sound like Kraft will be found not guilty. I always assumed he'd at least be able to no contest it and pay a small fine, but the illegal traffic stop adds another big hurdle for the prosecution to the point idk why a prosecutor would even bother wasting time against him and high priced lawyers.

Who knows how Goodell (a.k.a. the other owners) will try to rule. I think the Irsay situation gave a good baseline compromise (6 game suspension, 500k fine) for giving the league a black eye (even though driving while high and endangering people should be a lot worse than getting a consensual BJ), and the Jones boys infamously didn't get anything for inviting Dean Blandino on a party bus full of "strippers", but that Pats 2020 1st is certainly on the table based on the fact its New England.
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Old 03-01-2019, 05:56 PM   #1541
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People playing off the Kraft thing as a victimless crime really piss me off. Lets not act like these girls are willing participants. I can't even imagine how horrific their lives are.
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Old 03-01-2019, 05:59 PM   #1542
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People playing off the Kraft thing as a victimless crime really piss me off. Lets not act like these girls are willing participants. I can't even imagine how horrific their lives are.

Considering Kraft solicited the senior members of the store I'm willing to believe they were willing.
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Old 03-01-2019, 06:42 PM   #1543
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People playing off the Kraft thing as a victimless crime really piss me off. Lets not act like these girls are willing participants. I can't even imagine how horrific their lives are.
Like NH said, the specific women with Kraft were the owner and manager of the store, who are both legal residents of Florida. Just like drugs, the money likely all ties back to bad people, but it's equally ridiculous to think ground level users were aware of the larger picture. (I've also seen people who know more than me about the issue question just how much human trafficking was actually involved, or whether it's over reach by a local department, but I'll give them the benefit of the doubt until it goes to court.)
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Old 03-01-2019, 08:53 PM   #1544
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People playing off the Kraft thing as a victimless crime really piss me off. Lets not act like these girls are willing participants. I can't even imagine how horrific their lives are.

I also am not a fan of people blowing this off like it's a big joke. But it also should be pointed that police found zero evidence of involuntary trafficking with respect to this location

But, it's still shitty. The massage parlor prostitution industry is where these trafficked women end up. When a man goes to one of these places, he is aware, or should be aware, of the reality that the women may be underage, or were trafficked there against their will. Johns are contributing to that economy whether or not the particular prostitute that jacked them off was there involuntarily or not.

Legalization and regulation would fix a lot of this. But as long as its illegal, officers should crack down and expose and prosecute the dirtbags that frequent these places. I'm seeing a lot of anti-law enforcement sentiment with this stuff, but it's not their call what's legal. As long as it's' illegal, trafficking will thrive and law enforcement should be involved.

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Old 03-05-2019, 12:18 PM   #1545
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Old 03-05-2019, 04:17 PM   #1546
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Giants letting Landon Collins walk. I’m not sure I can do it anymore.
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Old 03-05-2019, 08:23 PM   #1547
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Old 03-05-2019, 08:31 PM   #1548
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In today's NFL is a box safety worth $11+ mil per?

3 time pro bowler, all pro, 25 years old. I would say yes. But by all means, lets pay Eli 25 Mil next year.
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Old 03-05-2019, 08:41 PM   #1549
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3 time pro bowler, all pro, 25 years old. I would say yes. But by all means, lets pay Eli 25 Mil next year.

And it was still a terrible defense last year. Safety is the least important position on that side of the ball at the moment. There's no doubt Collins is very good at what he does, but the position he plays is more of a luxury for good defenses than someone you build around.
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Old 03-05-2019, 08:51 PM   #1550
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And it was still a terrible defense last year. Safety is the least important position on that side of the ball at the moment. There's no doubt Collins is very good at what he does, but the position he plays is more of a luxury for good defenses than someone you build around.

That doesn't mean you let a guy who is the best at his position walk in his prime without trying to make a long term deal, while over paying your QB who should have been gone 2 years ago.

Drafting a guy in the first round, who then turns into an all pro, and letting him walk without even offering a contract doesn't strike me as a solid long term strategy.
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