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Old 10-03-2011, 07:20 PM   #301
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I don't think Mau is a wolf


I'm leaning that way too. We probably have V-V-V up now although I"ve no read on J and no read on people voting for J.
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Old 10-03-2011, 07:22 PM   #302
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Perhaps of interest, of note at least, that three people have gone with Mauboy rather than J23, when it was 6-4 bhlloy/J23.

Yeah I noticed that. ALthough bhlloy's had to be a mistake of just not reading things properly. His vote was VERY dine and dash.

The other two following the trend I guess, whether wolf or not.
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Old 10-03-2011, 07:23 PM   #303
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just got home, vote count?
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Old 10-03-2011, 07:24 PM   #304
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I'm wondering if bhlloy should or shouldn't use his ability tonight. It is likely he will be a target. But if he picks at random or on very little to go on he could obviously hit a villager. Something to think about before night action deadline, b.
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Old 10-03-2011, 07:27 PM   #305
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just got home, vote count?


this is what I have continuing from Autumn's post.

Dubb 2 - thomkal, mauboy
NTN 3 - dzilla, grammaticus, Danny
Mauboy 5 - hoops, CF, chief rum, bhlloy, Eaglefan
J23 5 - autumn, zinto, sndvls, saldana, j23
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Old 10-03-2011, 07:27 PM   #306
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unvote mauboy
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Old 10-03-2011, 07:29 PM   #307
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this is what I have continuing from Autumn's post.

Dubb 2 - thomkal, mauboy
NTN 3 - dzilla, grammaticus, Danny
Mauboy 5 - hoops, CF, chief rum, bhlloy, Eaglefan
J23 5 - autumn, zinto, sndvls, saldana, j23
Danny 1 - Lathum
Bhlloy 5 - commo, J23, mckerney, ntndeacon, dubb
Lathum 1 - narc
crimson fox 1 - mrbug

whoops j23 can't vote for himself.

Dubb 2 - thomkal, mauboy
NTN 3 - dzilla, grammaticus, Danny
Mauboy 4 - hoops, chief rum, bhlloy, Eaglefan
J23 6 - autumn, zinto, sndvls, saldana, jackal, CrimsonFox
Danny 1 - Lathum
Bhlloy 5 - commo, J23, mckerney, ntndeacon, dubb
Lathum 1 - narc
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Old 10-03-2011, 07:32 PM   #308
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I'm wondering if bhlloy should or shouldn't use his ability tonight. It is likely he will be a target. But if he picks at random or on very little to go on he could obviously hit a villager. Something to think about before night action deadline, b.

No way should he use his ability. He has a far greater chance of hitting a roled villager than a wolf. If I was wolf, I would probably leave him alive and look for more important roles anyway.
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Old 10-03-2011, 07:34 PM   #309
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HMmm here's a question that no one probably knows the answer to. If a roled villager gets corrupted, what happens? Do they completely lose their former abilities and gain new? Or do they get new ones on top of what they had.
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Old 10-03-2011, 07:34 PM   #310
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Old 10-03-2011, 07:34 PM   #311
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HMmm here's a question that no one probably knows the answer to. If a roled villager gets corrupted, what happens? Do they completely lose their former abilities and gain new? Or do they get new ones on top of what they had.

Gain new abilities, lose old ones
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Old 10-03-2011, 07:35 PM   #312
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Oh and I believe bhlloy's reveal 100%. A wolf does not fake reveal as that role when the real one would simply use their night ability to kill them.
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Old 10-03-2011, 07:35 PM   #313
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HMmm here's a question that no one probably knows the answer to. If a roled villager gets corrupted, what happens? Do they completely lose their former abilities and gain new? Or do they get new ones on top of what they had.

Something like the second thing is more what I'm worried about, Danny. Where he have an evil person with a free extra night kill running around.
BUt I do agree with you. Too little to go on at this point and it is probaly more likely he loses his lightbringer abilities.
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Old 10-03-2011, 07:36 PM   #314
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Post above, rules state that a player loses their ability and gains new ones.
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Old 10-03-2011, 07:37 PM   #315
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ah good. thanks. I was too lazy to go find it.
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Old 10-03-2011, 07:38 PM   #316
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The Red Death is so powerful, that when someone is corrupted, they will gain a new role and powers and lose their old ones.

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Old 10-03-2011, 07:39 PM   #317
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ah good. thanks. I was too lazy to go find it.

As long as you are honest about it
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Old 10-03-2011, 07:44 PM   #318
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Oh and I believe bhlloy's reveal 100%. A wolf does not fake reveal as that role when the real one would simply use their night ability to kill them.

Makes alot of sense. Unvote Bhlloy. I also believe the flame should not be used tonight it is better it goes unused because of a death or conversion, than a random stab. However, I think in a several days, maybe 4-6 when we have a better idea, that he use it, and tell us before hand, or be lynched to make sure he is who he is and or has not been converted.
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Old 10-03-2011, 07:45 PM   #319
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Indeed. obvious conversion target is obvious.
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Old 10-03-2011, 07:48 PM   #320
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The problem with converting bh is that he would then lose his ability and be unable to prove himself at that point. If the wolves convert him, we would end up catching him before long.
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Old 10-03-2011, 07:48 PM   #321
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Old 10-03-2011, 07:49 PM   #322
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CF don't put unvotes in the middle of a paragraph, that's so rough on a mod
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Old 10-03-2011, 07:49 PM   #323
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uhh CF = Commo, sorry
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Old 10-03-2011, 07:51 PM   #324
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CS, not CF

It was kind of a "designer vote"
All artsy and pretentious. I approve.
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Old 10-03-2011, 07:52 PM   #325
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Eh, I'm not sure how obvious a conversion target the player-killer role would be. If it hasn't been used for several days it will draw increased scrutiny. If I was a wolf in that spot I would be more worried about seers than a villager who can take out another villager.

A one-man circle of trust, that is guaranteed to diminish every day it is left trusted, isn't that big of a threat. Not in a 24 person game.
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Old 10-03-2011, 07:55 PM   #326
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Eh, I'm not sure how obvious a conversion target the player-killer role would be. If it hasn't been used for several days it will draw increased scrutiny. If I was a wolf in that spot I would be more worried about seers than a villager who can take out another villager.

A one-man circle of trust, that is guaranteed to diminish every day it is left trusted, isn't that big of a threat. Not in a 24 person game.

I will always have a circle of trust of at least one.
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Old 10-03-2011, 07:58 PM   #327
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Until the game where you aren't told your own role
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Old 10-03-2011, 08:00 PM   #328
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isn't that called a "period"?
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Old 10-03-2011, 08:01 PM   #329
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Old 10-03-2011, 08:03 PM   #330
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I was going to say, mckerney. Seeing you on a lot and not changing your vote off bhlloy made me want to vote for you.
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Old 10-03-2011, 08:03 PM   #331
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I'm really surprised ntn isn't getting more traction.
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Old 10-03-2011, 08:05 PM   #332
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Here we go:

Turn 1 – we win init. The hills split our fire from one half of my mechs onto their Marauder IIc and their Man O War. Braham Essex’s AC 20 from his Orion cracks the Marauder right in the CT – a good start. Their Locust IIc goes internal and his an SRM on the Thug.

T2 – We win init. We have a real melee on the left side where the hills come together. These mechs are all next to each other – Their Peregrine, Dragonfly, Locust IIc, and our Highlander, Orion, Shootist and Flashman. I expect to focus some fire on these guys to take out one or two this turn. I hop the Starslayer over to get some damage in. The very first shot to hit the Locust IIc is Braham’s modified Orion’s AC20 and it destroys the CT. Our Highlander takes three AC20 hits from the Hunchbacks double ultra AC 20s and is not internal anywhere. Our Lynx fires an ER PPC at their Galahad and hits an engine, gyro, and gauss ammo. (Gauss ammo does not explode). A gauss from our Highlander nails their Marauder’s LT and hits both engines there. Their Man o War nails a shoulder actuator on our Blackjack. No one falls, although 8 mechs took 20 or more damage this turn on both sides combined. Our Flashman kicks and destroys the RL on their Peregrine.

T3 – We lose init. I run my Flashman behind their Hunchy IIc. I move the Shootist next to it too, and our Orion next to their Marauder IIc. We won the last melee, let’s see how far we can push this. Our Flashman destroys the LT of their Hunchy. Our Shootist takes the AC20s this turn. A cluster of missiles from the LRM 20 by our Griffin nails the head of their Kodiak. Their Peregrine gets a limb blown off critical on the Thug, whose RA is now gone. No one falls. Our Thug kicks and destroys the LT of their Peregrine. Out Shootist kicks an actuator on their Hunchy.

T4 - We win init. I hop our P Hawk behind their Man o War. Braham’s Orion gets behind their Kodiak. Their Kodiak destroys the LT and RT of our Thug after hitting it’s ammo and being saved by CASE. Our Highlander destroys the LA and LT of their Dragonfly. Our Lynx destroys the Peregrine’s RA, and his it gyro and engine once each. Our Talon reaches back, fires an ER PPC and shears off the H of their Man O War. Their Galahad falls and the pilot blacks out. Our Thug falls. I run my Talon by the Mad Cat, and hop my P Hawk to it as well.

T5 – We win init. I eject the Thug pilot. I jump the Lynx by their Galahad to try and snipe off the head. It only hit the head once with a Medium Laser. The Highlander dances a Gauss slug into the CT oftheir Marauder IIc and hits a gyro. Our Shootist destroys its RL and RT and destroys the Mad IIc with a shutdown of the engine. The engine explodes, and the Lynx takes damage, as does the Galahad, who loses its LT. Our Flashman destroys the Hunchys CT. Before it goes, it fires an ER Medium Laser into the head of our Flashman but Rachel Perry shakes it off. Their Griffin IIc punches the head of our Lynx and goes internal but hits nothing. The Galahad pilot misses the 7 he needs to waken.

T6 – We rock init. Their Peregrine tries to stand, fails, falls down and blows off its other leg. I run the Talon behind their Mad Cat. I run my Orion and Flashman above and next to their Kodiak. Our Flashman took two shots from an Ultra AC20 and is still standing. Our Shootist destroys the Galahad’s H with a carefully aimed pulse laser. Our Lynx destroys the Griffin IIc’s RA. The Talon destroys the Mad Cat’s LA. Our Flashman kicks in the Kodiak’s Head and it is a dead mech.

T7 – We win with tactical genius. We off the four remaining Bear mechs hegira and they accept. They limp and hobble off the three mechs they have left - Griffin IIc, Mad Cat and Dragonfly. All three were damaged and missing limbs.

We have won another 10 clan techs.
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Old 10-03-2011, 08:05 PM   #333
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Dubb 2 - thomkal, mauboy
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Mauboy 5 - hoops, chief rum, bhlloy, Eaglefan, mckerney
J23 7 - autumn, zinto, sndvls, saldana, jackal, CrimsonFox, Lathum
Danny 1 - Lathum
Bhlloy 3 - J23, ntndeacon, dubb
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Old 10-03-2011, 08:05 PM   #334
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Just to make sure it gets captured

Unvote Bhlloy

Not sure why everyone is going towards mau after rereading the first few pages when he semi revealed. I'm going with my vote because it could have been a wolf on a bandwagon hoping to ensure a villager gets lynched and nothing strange happens.

Vote NTN
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Old 10-03-2011, 08:05 PM   #335
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I was going to say, mckerney. Seeing you on a lot and not changing your vote off bhlloy made me want to vote for you.

Not a good idea to put too much faith in the list of who's reading the thread. they could be three pages back for all you know, or have it on auto refresh.
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Old 10-03-2011, 08:06 PM   #336
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AWESOME! Mechs show up and blast the Red Death!

I want a griffin!
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Old 10-03-2011, 08:07 PM   #337
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Is that what that is? I'm super confused at Abe's post.
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Old 10-03-2011, 08:07 PM   #338
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Not a good idea to put too much faith in the list of who's reading the thread. they could be three pages back for all you know, or have it on auto refresh.


yeah I know. And I've been burned by that before. But he was on for quite awhile in the last hour without saying a thing OR changing his vote. I know it doesn't always mean anything especially with smartphones today but if you're on that long and say NOTHING I find it suspicious.

I did notice j23 on too so I'm really happy with my vote right now.
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Old 10-03-2011, 08:08 PM   #339
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Not sure why everyone is going towards mau after rereading the first few pages when he semi revealed. I'm going with my vote because it could have been a wolf on a bandwagon hoping to ensure a villager gets lynched and nothing strange happens.

What did he say? I don't recall anything.
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Is that what that is? I'm super confused at Abe's post.


I'm guessing it's for a battletech dynasty or something in for the other forum and was a mistake post here.
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Old 10-03-2011, 08:09 PM   #341
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Alright, I got home WAY earlier than expected. Sorry for the vote and dash earlier guys, but I didn't expect to get back on again tonight and didn't want to be eviscerated for not revealing my role and hurting the village.

I'm gonna go back and look at Mau's posts in detail now I have the time. At the time, I thought he was joint in the lead but I didn't even have that correct.
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Old 10-03-2011, 08:11 PM   #342
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Old 10-03-2011, 08:11 PM   #343
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What did he say? I don't recall anything.

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Well, I'm out til about a half hour before deadline.

Don't vote for me!



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yeah I know. And I've been burned by that before. But he was on for quite awhile in the last hour without saying a thing OR changing his vote. I know it doesn't always mean anything especially with smartphones today but if you're on that long and say NOTHING I find it suspicious.

I did notice j23 on too so I'm really happy with my vote right now.

Just so people know from about 5am PST to 5 PM PST I will be on my phone when posting I will refresh throughout the day, but will be limited on posting tons, but will be able to shorter things with ease.
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Old 10-03-2011, 08:13 PM   #344
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AWESOME! Mechs show up and blast the Red Death!

I want a griffin!

Whoops, I accidentally posted my dynasty post here, they are on tabs next to each other, and I posted in teh wrong one....sooo.

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Old 10-03-2011, 08:13 PM   #345
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No way should he use his ability. He has a far greater chance of hitting a roled villager than a wolf. If I was wolf, I would probably leave him alive and look for more important roles anyway.

I agree with this (well obviously the second bit ) but the first as well. The only thing I would say if anyone has a read is that a villager has a 1 in 5 chance of surviving whereas a wolf doesn't, which might tip the odds slightly a bit later on but on day one, it's still overwhelmingly likely that I kill a villager.

Unless anyone has any great insight they would like to share.
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Old 10-03-2011, 08:15 PM   #346
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I feel a lot better with J23 than Mauboy, so I'll be looking to push him ahead I think if it tightens up.

Danny - any particular reason (that you'd be comfortable sharing) you were wanting to make this a NTN-J23 race? I tend to agree with you looking back through the thread, wondering if I shouldn't make that switch to hopefully take Mau completely out of the running.
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Old 10-03-2011, 08:17 PM   #347
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Just to make sure it gets captured

Unvote Bhlloy

Not sure why everyone is going towards mau after rereading the first few pages when he semi revealed. I'm going with my vote because it could have been a wolf on a bandwagon hoping to ensure a villager gets lynched and nothing strange happens.

Vote NTN
who semi revealed?
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Old 10-03-2011, 08:19 PM   #348
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Oh and I am fine with a J23 vote, but I am looking to manipulate the candidates here hopefully into J23 and Ntn

Why is that the case Danny?

Just not sure how I ended up with this many votes today. Because I was the big bad last game?

When I voted for bhlloy, the options were two solid villagers in danny and dubb, an utr player that died early last game in ntn, a player or two I didn't really know maybe(I'm doing this from memory), and bhlloy. That was my reasoning at the time.
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Old 10-03-2011, 08:20 PM   #349
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I didn't see his answer before asking..
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Old 10-03-2011, 08:21 PM   #350
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I did notice j23 on too so I'm really happy with my vote right now.

Opened the thread, saw 5 pages to catch up on and went to make some dinner first.
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