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Old 11-30-2006, 06:45 PM   #51
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a simple, yet effective, logo done by Cuervo for Atlantic City Gamblers was this:




He also had these alternates:

(quality of the last image isn't so good but I'm sure we can get the original if need be)


I like this as well. Hmm. Decisions decisions...
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Old 11-30-2006, 07:02 PM   #52
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Made a minor change... I could do "AC" instead of "G" but it doesn't seem like it would fit as well..

Maybe if the Reds were "A" and the Blacks were "C"?


I want to use this logo with the Red cards being A's and the Black Card being C's. Thanks again for the time put forth working on this.
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Old 11-30-2006, 07:44 PM   #53
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I want to use this logo with the Red cards being A's and the Black Card being C's. Thanks again for the time put forth working on this.

Cool. I've noticed some flaws in the "crispness" that bother me.. probably won't bother you, but I'm probably going to redo it anyways because i'm somewhat of a perfectionist (as much as I'm capable) with this stuff.

What are you thoughts on color? I'm going to have to figure out the "right" way to change colors at some point anyways, still want your USC colors?
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Old 11-30-2006, 07:55 PM   #54
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still want your USC colors?


Yes, please.
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Old 11-30-2006, 08:02 PM   #55
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Do we have to put our logos on helmets? If so, is there a template, or can I somehow get somebody to put that 3rd kodiak logo on a silver helmet (or white if it looks better). If not, I can see about adding a Bozman Kodiaks somehwere on that picture.
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Old 11-30-2006, 08:15 PM   #56
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Wade, with the influx of red/gold wanna be's, would it be easier if I went with Red, Pewter, and Black?





I want to add I take no credit for the madden photo or edits to the original logo.

Those were the magical work of Argot (Madden pic) and ShaneTheMaster at the WAFL.

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Old 11-30-2006, 08:17 PM   #57
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Ok.

Lowcountry Gators 256x256 Logo:



Lowcountry Gators 256x256 Helmet Logo:

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Old 11-30-2006, 08:20 PM   #58
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Do we have to put our logos on helmets? If so, is there a template, or can I somehow get somebody to put that 3rd kodiak logo on a silver helmet (or white if it looks better). If not, I can see about adding a Bozman Kodiaks somehwere on that picture.

I don't know that we "have" to. Some leagues have used it as the standard avatar on their message board, but i'm also a pretty big fan of the avatars used over at FOFL. So I figure making the logo is the important part at first.

After that, I think cuervo put some pretty good instructions on how to put the logos on a helmet with the right effects and the template and posted them on the IHOF message board. I'm not 100% sure about that. But, if he didn't, I'll probably ask him about how to do it.

I think I'd like to see these on helmets eventually, so I'll look for those directions, but I don't think it's really a must-have at this stage as much as just the set of logos.
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Old 11-30-2006, 11:19 PM   #59
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EF has seen this privately, but here is what I did for EF...

EF - I know we talked about a white helmet/background. I did up a few different colors so you could see how they look and pick.







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Old 11-30-2006, 11:22 PM   #60
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RKG: I'm not going to be the color nazi. I just want to put it together so that people can decide for themselves. I personally like variety, but I'm not gonna be the guy that tells someone that can't use certian colors. Hell, I made myself like the 3rd or 4th red/black team in the IHOF when I changed my team name/colors.

That being said, I do like those colors.
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Old 11-30-2006, 11:44 PM   #61
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Narcizo - Here's a stab at yours. I pretty much went with what you were trying to do. I can't say that I'm that happy with it, especially since for some reason the inner ellipses get less rounded and I don't know why... Let me know what you think...

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Old 11-30-2006, 11:56 PM   #62
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Can I change my team name? I thought of a great logo that rocks. It's a minor league team I used to do some things for called the Silverbacks. I loved the logo. My team colors would be red, black and silver.

Does anyone mind?



I'd clip out the wording there and just go with the silverback.

I'm about to crash, but I was looking for a cleaner version of this logo and found a few other silverbacks logos...











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Old 11-30-2006, 11:57 PM   #63
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I hope to get the chance to work on the Silverbacks and the Admirals tomorrow.

So Troy, let me know if you'd like one of these better than the one from the team you know of.
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Old 12-01-2006, 01:55 AM   #64
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That's great Wade, thanks a lot. The only problem I have is that I was thinking about that in terms of being a helmet, I wasn't thinking in terms of an overall logo. (I completely forgot about that, I was probably thinking of WAFL where they have the helmets as logos). The implementation is great but I'm thinking the concept might not stand up in the super-huge logo area in 2007. Still, it's better than anything else I can come up with.

Anyway, I've changed the colours to be more in line with the British flag and, those are the colours I have in mind in terms of team colours, with dark blue the Primary, dark red the Secondary and white the Tertiary.



*Edit: Actually looking at it more, it does look pretty groovy. I'll see if I can come up with anything better but you've really done a good job and I think it will be fine as a team logo.

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Old 12-01-2006, 03:21 AM   #65
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I'd like my logo to be inspired from the gladiator on this banner:



As for team colors, I think the dark red/orange/white combination could be good for me.
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Old 12-01-2006, 04:17 AM   #66
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I'd like my logo to be inspired from the gladiator on this banner:



As for team colors, I think the dark red/orange/white combination could be good for me.

Why not combine the city flag, the city seal and the gladiator for the team logo
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Old 12-01-2006, 05:36 AM   #67
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That's great Wade, thanks a lot. The only problem I have is that I was thinking about that in terms of being a helmet, I wasn't thinking in terms of an overall logo. (I completely forgot about that, I was probably thinking of WAFL where they have the helmets as logos). The implementation is great but I'm thinking the concept might not stand up in the super-huge logo area in 2007. Still, it's better than anything else I can come up with.

Anyway, I've changed the colours to be more in line with the British flag and, those are the colours I have in mind in terms of team colours, with dark blue the Primary, dark red the Secondary and white the Tertiary.



*Edit: Actually looking at it more, it does look pretty groovy. I'll see if I can come up with anything better but you've really done a good job and I think it will be fine as a team logo.

I'll clean mine up with the darker colors, I was just using the colors you had in your prevous post. I'm not sure what you're using to modify these, but the quality gets degraded inw hatever process you're using.

As for the whole logo vs. helmet logo vs. whatever.... I'm just using the model that VPI/Cuervo laid out in the IHOF. Make the logo in 256x256. That logo can then be shrunk and used elsewhere - in the helmet, in madden, incorporated for a banner, etc. So my thought would be that when we start talking about in-game banner, someone could take these logos, and work some voodoo magic to make the in-game logos. In fact, that makes me realize I should be keeping copies of these without backgrounds for anyone that wants them for this purpose.
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Old 12-01-2006, 05:52 AM   #68
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RKG: I'm not going to be the color nazi. I just want to put it together so that people can decide for themselves. I personally like variety, but I'm not gonna be the guy that tells someone that can't use certian colors. Hell, I made myself like the 3rd or 4th red/black team in the IHOF when I changed my team name/colors.

That being said, I do like those colors.

I slept on it and the more I think about it, the more I like the red/pewter/black combo.

Is there anyway you can clean up my sample a little bit? (It was edited in ms paint in case you couldn't tell).
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Ok.

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I heart wade, and I heart my logo.
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I'll clean mine up with the darker colors, I was just using the colors you had in your prevous post. I'm not sure what you're using to modify these, but the quality gets degraded inw hatever process you're using.

Aye. I've only got Paint on this computer, which is a pile of pish. So that would be greatly appreciated.
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Aye. I've only got Paint on this computer, which is a pile of pish. So that would be greatly appreciated.

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I slept on it and the more I think about it, the more I like the red/pewter/black combo.

Is there anyway you can clean up my sample a little bit? (It was edited in ms paint in case you couldn't tell).

Yeah, I'll work on it. I'm still not doing this the "right" way, but I'm getting better at doing it my jerry-rigged way.
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Old 12-01-2006, 06:40 AM   #73
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Same here. I have Photoshop, but I use it almost exclusively for photos, not creating custom content. Here is the logo upon which I'd like to build.


Do you know what this actual logo is from? I'd like to try and find a higher quality version.

I'm not sure if you specifically wanted this logo for a reason, but would you have any interest in the Razorbacks logo?

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Aye. I've only got Paint on this computer, which is a pile of pish. So that would be greatly appreciated.

http://www.getpaint.net/index2.html
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Cool!

I don't want to seem like a surly git and I'm very grateful for, well, you doing this, but is there any reason the red and white ellipses aren't even? If you think it looks better that way, or you couldn't fit the text in otherwise or whatever then that's cool. Just wondering if it would look better more even. And I was wondering if there's any way to add some toning or shading or adding a button effect, something to it to make it look less flat as a logo.

Honestly, you've done more than enough already though so if I'm out of line at all just ignore me and I'll shut up.
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Cheers. I'll have a play around with that. With my 1337 artistic skills it can only turn out well. :o
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Old 12-01-2006, 07:38 AM   #77
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Cool!

I don't want to seem like a surly git and I'm very grateful for, well, you doing this, but is there any reason the red and white ellipses aren't even? If you think it looks better that way, or you couldn't fit the text in otherwise or whatever then that's cool. Just wondering if it would look better more even. And I was wondering if there's any way to add some toning or shading or adding a button effect, something to it to make it look less flat as a logo.

Honestly, you've done more than enough already though so if I'm out of line at all just ignore me and I'll shut up.

I don't mind any criticisms/requests at all.. Like I said, I'm not the most graphically inclined and what you're not seeing on some of these is me jumping into AIM and getting feedback fromt he owners before you guys see them posted... For the most part, I'm doing the best I can to fit what an owner wants.. if I'm given little direction, I'll do my best to come up with something I like, given specific direction (i.e. this or SkyDog handing me an existing logo to modify) then I'll do that...

As for the ellipses... I honestly don't understand what you mean about making the ellipses "even"... So, I can't really answer your question ..

As for doing something to add depth.. yeah... let me see what I can come up with... That is one of the talents I lack to an extent.. although these logos to me are more designed for throwing straight on a helmet... if we're doing something like in game or something, they all may get some effect added to them fo rthat purpose.
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I've played with a couple of ideas for yours. Both of them were pretty quick because of what I was working with. I may even try a couple of others. Let me know if you like either of them, and if you do, anything you might want changed.





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Thanks again Wade. The Crimson and Gold backgrounds actually look much better than I thought they would, and I like them. Although, I think the black background looks the sharpest. I might go with that and forget about the splash of green on the helmet. I'll think about it more this afternoon.
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Why not combine the city flag, the city seal and the gladiator for the team logo

Nice idea.
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Thanks again Wade. The Crimson and Gold backgrounds actually look much better than I thought they would, and I like them. Although, I think the black background looks the sharpest. I might go with that and forget about the splash of green on the helmet. I'll think about it more this afternoon.

I agree on all accounts. The Crimson/Gold backgrouns may have an advantage in the long run for seperating yourself from the rest of the league depending on how many black helmets there are.. if nothing else it gives you options to wait and see how others look, etc...
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Old 12-01-2006, 08:28 AM   #84
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Why not combine the city flag, the city seal and the gladiator for the team logo

I think that's a good idea for a banner, bigger logo, etc.. but for what I think of as the main logo (helmet logo essentially) that may be a bit busy...
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As for the ellipses... I honestly don't understand what you mean about making the ellipses "even"... So, I can't really answer your question ..

I meant make the ends more rounded, there seems to be a couple of angles at each end.

And yeah. Adding depth and stuff would be for the bigger logo, definitely not for the helmet.

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Navy Blue, Orange, White

Logo will either be the front of the nickel with Jefferson's profile or Monticello on the back.

I've been trying to do the profile...

With my skills, right now, turning the profile into a "silhouette" has been.. well, challenging.. I figured there would already be one on the web somewhere, but I haven't been able to find it... I personally like the idea of the profile more than the monticello, so we'll see...
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I meant make the ends more rounded, there seems to be a couple of angles at each end.

And yeah. Adding depth and stuff would be for the bigger logo, definitely not for the helmet.

Yeah, in my post I said something about not liking it because of... "...the inner ellipses get less rounded and I don't know why.."...

It's not a desire for it to be that way, but something I'm doing wrong in creating the ellipses the way I do.. I'm going to try to fix it, but I'm not sure how at the moment.
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Old 12-01-2006, 08:42 AM   #88
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I agree on all accounts. The Crimson/Gold backgrouns may have an advantage in the long run for seperating yourself from the rest of the league depending on how many black helmets there are.. if nothing else it gives you options to wait and see how others look, etc...


Good point. I'll see what colors the other helmets are in the league and go from there.


RedKingGold (and anyone else) sorry if I disrupted your color scheme. I'm just trying to add elements of teams/things that I enjoy in real life to add to my attachment to the team. Being a USC fan, as soon as I joined the league, I had plans to utilize their colors in the scheme of my team.
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Old 12-01-2006, 08:48 AM   #89
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Lookee what I found on the web:



Seems like you could maybe just completely steal that?

Edit: Although same colors again .. I could change them to anything very easily because of how this is done.
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RedKingGold (and anyone else) sorry if I disrupted your color scheme. I'm just trying to add elements of teams/things that I enjoy in real life to add to my attachment to the team. Being a USC fan, as soon as I joined the league, I had plans to utilize their colors in the scheme of my team.

Not a problem whatsoever. I wasn't exactly tied to using gold in my color scheme and was likely going to change it anyway. But even if we did have similar colors, I saw it as no big deal.
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3ric another one in somewhat of a Texans style...

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Old 12-01-2006, 10:03 AM   #92
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Old 12-01-2006, 10:37 AM   #93
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Do you know what this actual logo is from? I'd like to try and find a higher quality version.

I'm not sure if you specifically wanted this logo for a reason, but would you have any interest in the Razorbacks logo?

I'm not sure where I got the logo, it was one that I've had for a while. I don't really like the Razorback's logo, mainly due to the tusks. Remove the tusks, shorten up the snout by about 50%, and add some Alka-Seltzer like foaming to the mouth, and then it might be more along the lines of what I'm looking for.
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3ric another one in somewhat of a Texans style...


That one's really good!
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I'm not sure where I got the logo, it was one that I've had for a while. I don't really like the Razorback's logo, mainly due to the tusks. Remove the tusks, shorten up the snout by about 50%, and add some Alka-Seltzer like foaming to the mouth, and then it might be more along the lines of what I'm looking for.

Yeah, that's definitely outside of my abilities ... I'll see what I can do with this logo or in finding a better copy...
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That one's really good!

Are the colors accurate? I pulled this from some sort of alternate Finland Flag?
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Here's a pic of a real life javelina, so you can see why I don't like the Razorback so much:

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I'm still looking for that logo, but I found this:

http://www.javelinaathletics.com/logos.cfm?spcode=logo

Apparently Texas A&M: Kingsville uses the Javelina.
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Are the colors accurate? I pulled this from some sort of alternate Finland Flag?

I was thinking of a darker blue, but otherwise the colors are looking good.
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I'm still looking for that logo, but I found this:

http://www.javelinaathletics.com/logos.cfm?spcode=logo

Apparently Texas A&M: Kingsville uses the Javelina.

Interesting. I had forgotten all about them. That school is Eva Longoria's alma mater. But none of their logos really work for me.

Now that I'm thinking about it, I think I got that first logo I posted from an ancient clip art pack.
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