AMC's new murder mystery series "The Killing"

[samifan24]

AMC's newest series, the murder mystery "The Killing," debuted last night with a two hour premiere. Did anyone catch it? I liked it, it was very slow and atmospheric but I thought they did a great job setting the tone for the season. I read that each episode covers a single day in the investigation and the timing seemed to work pretty well in the first two episodes. I'm looking forward to the rest of the season.

[jeff061]

I recorded it, have high hopes.

[bbor]

From all the reviews i've read you have to watch at least the first three episodes before things get moving.I watched the first 2 episodes yesterday and thought they laid out some decent groundwork.

[Radii]

I set the DVR to pick up a rerun later this week, I'll give it a shot.

[JonInMiddleGA]

AMC has it online for free, in case someone missed it/didn't tape it.
Watch the Premiere of AMC’s “The Killing” Online

[JonInMiddleGA]

Pretty good debut, 2.7m total viewers (4.7m including 2x encores). That's 2nd highest series debut in AMC history, albeit only about half what Dead did.

AMC’s “The Killing” Premiere Averages 2.7 Million Viewers

[RainMaker]

Will this be airing again? I had not even heard of it but looks interesting. Don't care to watch online but will if no other options are available.

[stevew]

The pilot is free on iTunes, so i don't think it would be particularly hard to download and transfer to a thumb drive and watch on your 360

[panerd]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

Will this be airing again? I had not even heard of it but looks interesting. Don't care to watch online but will if no other options are available.

If it's anything like AMC's other shows it will be on at least a few more times before next episode. Do you have On Demand?

[RainMaker]

I don't think I do but it looks like it's on the schedule a few more times. Putting it on the DVR right now. Looks a little Twin Peaks-ish.

[Peregrine]

I watched the first two episodes and really enjoyed them - will be interesting to see how it all plays out.

[Landshark44]

i didn't have much hope when i turned it on. didn't think i'd like it.....

but it really drew me in, and i was pleasantly suprised by the depth of it...

[Doug5984]

Just watched the first (2?) episode...it was 2 hours and so far I am really liking it, can't wait to watch the next one tomorrow night

[sabotai]

Liked the first episode(s). They are replaying it at 8, and then the new episode at 10, for those who wanted to watch but missed it the other night.

[whomario]

thanks for the tip for this series, very promising start. Really liked the setting.

If anyone´s not aware, it´s sort of a remake of a danish series that has been pretty good and is currently in it´s third season : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Killing_(Danish_TV_series)

hope the us version focuses more on the crimes and doesn´t get as much into local politics and stuff like that (the one weak spot in the original imo)

[Noop]

I watched the first two episodes and I am already drawn in. I must admit I had teared up a little when they found her.

[jeff061]

Just finished watching the first 2 hours. Was better than I expected. Most promising pilot I've seen since Breaking Bad.

[samifan24]

Pretty good third episode tonight. I know it's only been three episodes but it does feel like the writers will give answers at a reasonable pace, the lack of which really hurt Rubicon in my opinion.

[stevew]

Who's everyone got as the killer? Teacher is too much of a red herring IMO. I'm going with the guy who works with the Girl's dad. He seems to eager to enact justice IMO.

[StrangeWay]

One of my absolute favorite shows right now. I think her dad's friend might be the killer.

[Mac Howard]

Is this a remake of the Swedish series? I saw a 20 episode series about two years ago by this name. Excellent series!

Edited:

Just looked it up on IMDB. It is. Keep on watching. It's riveting despite the length (and the version I watched was subtitled). When I watched it I didn't know how many episodes there were and switched on every week expecting it to be the last episode. But it holds the suspense right the way through.

[jeff061]

Originally Posted by StrangeWay

One of my absolute favorite shows right now. I think her dad's friend might be the killer.

That was my thinking. Really just based on picking the lower profile guy. I wouldn't be shocked if they focus on him then clear him.

[Noop]

Originally Posted by stevew

Who's everyone got as the killer? Teacher is too much of a red herring IMO. I'm going with the guy who works with the Girl's dad. He seems to eager to enact justice IMO.

This is a good question. Yeah I am going to go with him as well. They also say killers like to stay close to investigations so he is numero uno on my list.

[bbor]

Originally Posted by Mac Howard

Is this a remake of the Swedish series? I saw a 20 episode series about two years ago by this name. Excellent series!

Edited:

Just looked it up on IMDB. It is. Keep on watching. It's riveting despite the length (and the version I watched was subtitled). When I watched it I didn't know how many episodes there were and switched on every week expecting it to be the last episode. But it holds the suspense right the way through.

Apparently there is a different killer in the US version than there was in the swedish version.Just to keep things under wraps.

[Radii]

Knowing nothing about the danish series I would assume someone in the political arena. If that doesn't end up tied heavily back into the murder then its a very very weird side plot.

[stevew]

Howard Schultz killed the girl. All the basketball imagery in Seattle makes me chuckle.

I agree about the political side plot, however, I think the mayoral race is just there in order to frame the series cause otherwise 13 episodes would be too many.

How did the mayoral canidate's wife die?

[Peregrine]

Great episode - I really think the heart of the show right now is just the parents and the slow motion horribleness of their grief for the daughter. The dad, who is trying to be strong for his wife, falling apart in private was just really tough to watch.

Definitely a show I can't wait to watch each week, along with Game of Thrones.

[Mac Howard]

Originally Posted by bbor

Apparently there is a different killer in the US version than there was in the swedish version.Just to keep things under wraps.

Excellent! I can now look forward to this new series being shown over here soon.

[Doug5984]

Spoiler

I know there are still some pieces missing, but it seems pretty apparent that teach and the wife played the major role- unless they throw us some crazy curve ball, but they were involved in some way

[Radii]

really good epsiode last night. I agree with Doug, they're making it look really obvious at this point in the story.

[sabotai]

Just watched it. The series was starting to lose me, but this episode was great.

[samifan24]

I have a question: is this show designed to be multiple seasons? It doesn't seem like there's any way that they can drag the current case out that long but could tackle a different case each season. I know the Danish show on which this show is based on went a few seasons so I'm betting that's the plan for now.

[Radii]

Was just chatting with a buddy in more detail on this... 13 episode season so what like 7 more episodes to go? What can reasonably happen such that there are 7 hours left to resolve this story without some kind of crazy '24' style twist that really dumbs things down a lot and makes it a lot less watchable?

[Doug5984]

Originally Posted by Radii

Was just chatting with a buddy in more detail on this... 13 episode season so what like 7 more episodes to go? What can reasonably happen such that there are 7 hours left to resolve this story without some kind of crazy '24' style twist that really dumbs things down a lot and makes it a lot less watchable?

I was actually talking to my girlfriend about that after we watched it last night. It worries me, because it's been a great show- and as it stands now they are clearly pointing us in one direction, and with good cause. If they keep going down this road, then at the last minute say it was the janitors cousin's friend and leave us hanging on all the other plot lines and how it ties in.


Some thoughts-

Spoiler

1. The ex boyfriend and his punk friend are involved some how, they were very nervous when they were being held until they showed the video then said "that's all you got?" That leads me to believe they had some involvement...right?

2. If the neighbor did see them carrying a body out of the house at 12 am, the wife got to her sister's late and was very distraught, and then was cowering in the corner with a hammer when the detectives were at her door- there is something there, they are hiding something, something big. The main thing being the body rolled up.

It seems so obvious- and as it should- that the teacher and his wife are responsible- but with 7 episodes left, how are they going to fill that time without it somehow not being them.

I just like to put my thoughts in spoiler tags incase anyone stops in who hasnt' caught up yet

[Radii]

Quoting some of doug's stuff within the spoiler tags:

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1. The ex boyfriend and his punk friend are involved some how, they were very nervous when they were being held until they showed the video then said "that's all you got?" That leads me to believe they had some involvement...right?

You know, that's a really good point, something I hadn't thought of until you mentioned it. Could just end up being a little plot hole but definitely something to keep in mind.

2. If the neighbor did see them carrying a body out of the house at 12 am, the wife got to her sister's late and was very distraught, and then was cowering in the corner with a hammer when the detectives were at her door- there is something there, they are hiding something, something big. The main thing being the body rolled up.

I think at this point the timeline is supposed to point to the fact that the wife killed her and the husband came home later and helped cover it up. Neighbors say that she showed up at the teacher's house at 10pm. Teacher was still at the dance until at least 11pm. Unless this is part of the twist and someone from the political campaign was there as part of some crazy setup I think we're supposed to assume the teacher's wife answered the door.

It seems so obvious- and as it should- that the teacher and his wife are responsible- but with 7 episodes left, how are they going to fill that time without it somehow not being them.

It seems hard for me to see how it could be anyone else and have it come across as reasonable storytelling at this point. A witness was just dead wrong about what he saw or something, I guess, I dunno. Two thoughts though... one is that it seems like the dead girl's dad is about to kill the teacher. That opens up another storyline to allow things to continue awhile. Another is that there was a brief mention of other missing girls and a possible serial killer angle, so maybe there is time spent on that angle.

[Radii]

Something else that bugged me... isn't an eyewitness that places the girl at the house on the night of the murder enough for a warrant?! They already have a chemical in the house also in her tox panel plus have caught the guy in a couple lies about events from that night. The second a neighbor says "yeah she was here that night" don't you drop everything and get a warrant and search the house ASAP?

That bugged me quite a bit when watching the last episode.

[Landshark44]

who was the guy at the funeral that ignored the sister when she said "hello"?

[sabotai]

Originally Posted by Landshark44

who was the guy at the funeral that ignored the sister when she said "hello"?

I believe that was the guy who the dad went to for money in a previous episode and got into a short argument with.

[Bigsmooth]

Originally Posted by sabotai

I believe that was the guy who the dad went to for money in a previous episode and got into a short argument with.

Nah that was Jasper's (or Casper's?) dad. First thing he says is that Jasper couldn't make it or something to that affect. Pretty sure Jasper is the rich kid that was down in the school basement...

[samifan24]

Wasn't Jasper the kid who sleeps around with older women? The sister would qualify as an older woman....That's the only explanation I can come up with at this point.

[sabotai]

Originally Posted by Bigsmooth

Nah that was Jasper's (or Casper's?) dad. First thing he says is that Jasper couldn't make it or something to that affect. Pretty sure Jasper is the rich kid that was down in the school basement...

Yes, according to AMC's webpage, the guy who ignored the sister was Jasper's dad.

http://www.amctv.com/shows/the-killi...t/michael-ames

[Desnudo]

Originally Posted by Radii

Quoting some of doug's stuff within the spoiler tags:

Spoiler

You know, that's a really good point, something I hadn't thought of until you mentioned it. Could just end up being a little plot hole but definitely something to keep in mind.




I think at this point the timeline is supposed to point to the fact that the wife killed her and the husband came home later and helped cover it up. Neighbors say that she showed up at the teacher's house at 10pm. Teacher was still at the dance until at least 11pm. Unless this is part of the twist and someone from the political campaign was there as part of some crazy setup I think we're supposed to assume the teacher's wife answered the door.



It seems hard for me to see how it could be anyone else and have it come across as reasonable storytelling at this point. A witness was just dead wrong about what he saw or something, I guess, I dunno. Two thoughts though... one is that it seems like the dead girl's dad is about to kill the teacher. That opens up another storyline to allow things to continue awhile. Another is that there was a brief mention of other missing girls and a possible serial killer angle, so maybe there is time spent on that angle.

I figure he'll kill the teacher which will create a whole side trial thing and lengthen the show. Also, there's probably more people involved than just the teacher and his wife. At least it seems that way.

One thing I wish they'd adjust is the amount of rain in every episode. It rains like that in Seattle infrequently. It makes it seem like Noah's Ark is coming.

[OldGiants]

As to the 'slam dunk' it was the Ahmeds (teach and wife) did they not show Rosie running in the woods, attempting to flee an un-shown assailant at the very beginning of the show? Hard to do if she was already dead or died in the Ahmeds' place.

[Radii]

Originally Posted by OldGiants

As to the 'slam dunk' it was the Ahmeds (teach and wife) did they not show Rosie running in the woods, attempting to flee an un-shown assailant at the very beginning of the show? Hard to do if she was already dead or died in the Ahmeds' place.

dear god, something else i'd not remembered at all. WTF! Great point.

[Doug5984]

Originally Posted by OldGiants

As to the 'slam dunk' it was the Ahmeds (teach and wife) did they not show Rosie running in the woods, attempting to flee an un-shown assailant at the very beginning of the show? Hard to do if she was already dead or died in the Ahmeds' place.

damn- good call, and she was alive in the trunk...and a pregnant woman probably wouldn't be able to run that fast in the woods... So I wan tto hear the writing to explain that whole teacher story line.


This is what we know:
Teacher has been lying about everything, and had access to the car she was found in.
Rosie showed up at their house, per a neighbor.
Crazy neighbor saw them leave with a "body"
Rosie has all the chemicals used from teachers house on her.
Teacher's wife was hysterical when arriving late at sisters.
Teacher's wife was hiding in the corner of the room with a hammer when the detectives were at the door.

[samifan24]

Pretty good episode tonight, the only thing that disappointed me was how quickly they resolved the Stan/Bennett car trip

[Landshark44]

it's getting a little boring for me....

[Radii]

Originally Posted by Landshark44

it's getting a little boring for me....

I am still firmly in on this but last night's episode was not nearly as good as any of the others imo.

[StrangeWay]

I can't help thinking it might have been her father's best friend. He's acted squirrely since they started the show.

[britrock88]

I loved Rubicon (primarily for the winds of conspiracy, but the slow unfolding was also a strong point)... would I like this series?