If Trump Loses In November, What Do You Think Happens Next

[GrantDawg]

Originally Posted by thesloppy

Just for the sake of reference, this is what the capitol looked like when a BLM protest was scheduled:

I have seen people say this is the Capital Building many times, and I just want to point out that it is actually the Lincoln Memorial. Honestly, it makes it worse. This is what they will do to protect a statue, but not to protect the seat of Democracy.

[Ksyrup]

This is an instructive thread breaking down the outright lies of Matt Gaetz on the House floor about how facial recognition identified rioters as Antifa/BLM. The fact that the Washington Times would print this and Gaetz would knowingly lie about it with no repercussions is where the problem sits. As long as there are no consequences, this will continue and we will be powerless to stop it.

JOURNALISTS: Let me help you debunk the lies in the @mattgaetz floor speech about a “facial recognition company” discovering antifa agitators. It all comes from a fake news article from the notorious Washington Times. I will break it all down for you…https://t.co/alc73605Nm

— Respectable Lawyer (@RespectableLaw) January 7, 2021

[GrantDawg]

The other take I am seeing is "it's is a public building, and we were allowed in as citizens of the United States. The police let us in, so it can't be a crime"

[CrimsonFox]

[Ghost Econ]

Originally Posted by GrantDawg

The other take I am seeing is "it's is a public building, and we were allowed in as citizens of the United States. The police let us in, so it can't be a crime"

Amusingish story. My wife, daughter and I went to DC 2 years ago. We got a private tour from some girl working for a rep out of Iowa, I think.

Long story short, while going through security at the underground tram to get to the Capitol building, I lost my keys. I didn't realize it until we were in the Capitol. So I doubled back to the checkpoint and they weren't there. Turns out my wife had them in a jacket pocket that they must have slipped in.

However, while looking for my wife and kid in the Capitol, I walked all over and into various rooms looking for them without anyone batting an eye like I didn't belong. Evidently I also walked through some secure room where cell phones aren't allowed, even though there weren't signs on the door at the time.

This is a log way of saying I'm not surprised the Capitol police were shit yesterday.

[CrimsonFox]

Responses around the world

[sterlingice]

Originally Posted by GrantDawg

The other take I am seeing is "it's is a public building, and we were allowed in as citizens of the United States. The police let us in, so it can't be a crime"

Of course, when protesters damaged buildings in Minneapolis and Portland - those same morons were ok with "light 'em up!" so eff them and their two-facedness.

SI

[Ghost Econ]

Someone should tell them that you can still trespass on public property. Weird how ignorance of the law is a free pass to break it when you're a conservative.

[CrimsonFox]

Ossoff has broken the .5% lead and is comfortably at .8% and 35615 votes!
No recount can be requested.

[RainMaker]

Originally Posted by Ksyrup

This is an instructive thread breaking down the outright lies of Matt Gaetz on the House floor about how facial recognition identified rioters as Antifa/BLM. The fact that the Washington Times would print this and Gaetz would knowingly lie about it with no repercussions is where the problem sits. As long as there are no consequences, this will continue and we will be powerless to stop it.

JOURNALISTS: Let me help you debunk the lies in the @mattgaetz floor speech about a “facial recognition company” discovering antifa agitators. It all comes from a fake news article from the notorious Washington Times. I will break it all down for you…https://t.co/alc73605Nm

— Respectable Lawyer (@RespectableLaw) January 7, 2021

Remember when we found out Goetz was living with a boy he was probably fucking and we just ignored it?

[RainMaker]

You can apparently say fuck on MSNBC.

Also the guy who helped ransack Pelosi's office and has been bragging about it is still not arrested.

Joe Scarborough just went off on the Capitol Police, Trump, Giuliani. Don Jr. and the MAGA terrorists.

Wow...pic.twitter.com/eYonjO9aQM

— Rex Chapman���� (@RexChapman) January 7, 2021

[Ksyrup]

https://t.co/JPygWzI7xL pic.twitter.com/ITBVNg6vMN

— Bill 'Berg (@wiretap804) January 7, 2021

[sterlingice]

Joe Scarborough's not wrong at all. HE'S 100% FUCKING RIGHT!

The 25th should be invoked at a minimum but Pence has no spine, Mitch wants to maximize his power, and we're just all going to hold our breath's that Trump doesn't do something stupid for the next 2 weeks because he promised not to. And we all know how well he keeps his promises.

We're all going to deserve the shit this leads to

SI

[Ksyrup]

Marco Rubio has out-Marco Rubio'd himself:

Spineless, as always, on two fronts:

1. “Some”

2. Limiting replies to avoid getting ratio’d.

Great work @marcorubio pic.twitter.com/IjkaSXhjxV

— Yashar Ali �� (@yashar) January 7, 2021

[JPhillips]

As bad as yesterday looked, it's so much worse than most of the media is connecting. There were people in the Capitol prepared to kidnap and restrain people. There were explosives planted at both the RNC and the DNC. There were multiple state capitols closed due to threats. The Governor's mansion in Washington state was stormed.

All of this was connected through the same social media networks. We have a radical para-military force of unknown size loose in the USA, and if we don't do anything about it the attacks wil continue. This isn't going away when Biden is sworn in.

[Ksyrup]

A newly-elected WV state delegate was live streaming on FB as he was part of the group that stormed the Capitol. Unreal.

[Thomkal]

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

Ossoff has broken the .5% lead and is comfortably at .8% and 35615 votes!
No recount can be requested.

Great news. I really thought the best Dems could do out of GA was get 1 out of the 2 with Warnock. Very happy to be proven wrong.

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by Ksyrup

A newly-elected WV state delegate was live streaming on FB as he was part of the group that stormed the Capitol. Unreal.

Hey he was working as an independent journalist.

[miami_fan]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

As bad as yesterday looked, it's so much worse than most of the media is connecting. There were people in the Capitol prepared to kidnap and restrain people. There were explosives planted at both the RNC and the DNC. There were multiple state capitols closed due to threats. The Governor's mansion in Washington state was stormed.

All of this was connected through the same social media networks. We have a radical para-military force of unknown size loose in the USA, and if we don't do anything about it the attacks wil continue. This isn't going away when Biden is sworn in.

Funny, weren't we just calling them a "well regulated militia" the other day?

[sterlingice]

My favorite thing about the storming of the Capitol was the supporters who Googled wrong Georgia and waved flags of a European country they didn't know existed. pic.twitter.com/zV5dc3iLfu

— DebroDar (@debroDar) January 7, 2021

SI

[Ksyrup]

This thread will continue to grow...

Let's name and shame them! #Capitol #CapitolBuilding #CapitolRiots #MAGATerrorists #Antifa

1) Chester Doles - KKK from Georgia and Neonazi. pic.twitter.com/kPg9w0L9Bl

— Gaglad (@Gagladla) January 7, 2021

[BYU 14]

I would hope they would be arrested in addition to being outed, Angeli lives here in Arizona and is often at the capitol espousing his rants.

[JPhillips]

Pelosi announced that the House will adjourn until the inauguration.

I'm sure that this time Trump has learned his lesson.

[bronconick]

Facebook extended their ban on Trump "for at least two weeks".

[RainMaker]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

Pelosi announced that the House will adjourn until the inauguration.

I'm sure that this time Trump has learned his lesson.

She is worthless as always.

[Qwikshot]

Originally Posted by bronconick

Facebook extended their ban on Trump "for at least two weeks".

I got a report on thehill.com that Facebook ban is indefinite.

[Edward64]

I'm all for sh*t canning the Capitol Police leadership (and others that may have allowed the protestors to waltz by).

They report to Congress. I'd like to know who they report to in Congress and get those sh*t canned too.

The United States Capitol Police (USCP) is a federal law enforcement agency in the United States charged with protecting the United States Congress within the District of Columbia and throughout the United States and its territories. It answers to Congress, not the President of the United States, and is the only full-service federal law enforcement agency responsible to the legislative branch of the Federal Government of the United States.

[Qwikshot]

Originally Posted by Edward64

I'm all for sh*t canning the Capitol Police leadership (and others that may have allowed the protestors to waltz by).

They report to Congress. I'd like to know who they report to in Congress and get those sh*t canned too.

Executive Team | United States Capitol Police

GOOGLE IT

[Qwikshot]

Oversight
The United States Capitol Police (USCP) is overseen by the Capitol Police Board and has Congressional oversight by appropriations and authorizing committees from the U.S. House of Representatives and U.S. Senate. This oversight affords the Department the support and opportunity to continually ensure that the USCP meets the safety and security needs of the Congress, the staff, and the many visitors who come to the United States Capitol each day.


Capitol Police Board
Michael C. Stenger, United States Senate Sergeant at Arms
Paul D. Irving, U.S. House of Representatives Sergeant at Arms (Chairman)
J. Brett Blanton, Architect of the Capitol
Steven A. Sund, Chief of Police (Ex-Officio Member)

Congressional Committees
Appropriations Committees
House Committee on Appropriations, Subcommittee on Legislative Branch

Chairman: Tim Ryan (Ohio)
Ranking Member: Jaime Herrera Beutler (Washington)

Senate Committee on Appropriations, Subcommittee on Legislative Branch

Chairman: Cindy Hyde-Smith (Mississippi)
Ranking Member: Christopher Murphy (Connecticut)

Authorizing Committees
Committee on House Administration

Chairman: Zoe Lofgren (California)
Ranking Member: Rodney Davis (Illinois)

Senate Committee on Rules and Administration

Chairman: Roy Blunt (Missouri)
Ranking Member: Amy Klobuchar (Minnesota)

[RainMaker]

The Capitol Police is compromised and should be disbanded ASAP. The Secret Service can be expanded to handle those duties.

[PilotMan]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

Lady killed during the coup attempt was career military.

KUSI News confirms identity of woman shot and killed inside US Capitol -

She was also an ardent and hardened Q follower.

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by sterlingice

My favorite thing about the storming of the Capitol was the supporters who Googled wrong Georgia and waved flags of a European country they didn't know existed. pic.twitter.com/zV5dc3iLfu

— DebroDar (@debroDar) January 7, 2021

SI

A reddit thread tracking the flags flown yesterday. It's an interesting mix.

Footage of today's events at the US Capitol showed many flags. I put some of them together, pretty weird mix. Details in the comments. : vexillology

[Edward64]

Originally Posted by Atocep

A reddit thread tracking the flags flown yesterday. It's an interesting mix.

Footage of today's events at the US Capitol showed many flags. I put some of them together, pretty weird mix. Details in the comments. : vexillology

Pretty interesting.

WTF is the South Korean and Tibet flag doing there?

[kingfc22]

Originally Posted by PilotMan

She was also an ardent and hardened Q follower.

Radicalization is not confined to the Middle East.

[Edward64]

Oooh, Schumer has got some game.

This may get interesting.

[miami_fan]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

Lady killed during the coup attempt was career military.

KUSI News confirms identity of woman shot and killed inside US Capitol -

Originally Posted by PilotMan

She was also an ardent and hardened Q follower.

This should be ringing alarm bells throughout the Pentagon.

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by Edward64

Pretty interesting.

WTF is the South Korean and Tibet flag doing there?

I'm guessing Tibet is a nod to the Tibetan Uprising.

[Jas_lov]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

She is worthless as always.

Seriously, why isn't the House issuing articles of impeachment right now? Schumer even said they need to remove him.

[Atocep]

I don't think this would be a surprise to anyone. I'd say it's likely this was an incompetent attempt at a coup.


US allies say Trump attempted coup with help from federal law enforcement - Business Insider

[Lathum]

Parts of the Capitol police were 100% complicit in this. At the very least they were derelict in their duty to do whatever it takes, including laying down their lives, to protect the heads of state inside. There were likely some heros who saved a lot of lives, including members of the house who have military background. I heard an interview with one this AM who said he was telling all members to remove their pins so they couldn't be identified as house members. Scary stuff.

[AlexB]

Originally Posted by Atocep

I don't think this would be a surprise to anyone. I'd say it's likely this was an incompetent attempt at a coup.


US allies say Trump attempted coup with help from federal law enforcement - Business Insider

I agree - I’m struggling with what the endgame was.

It seemed the plan was to exhort his MAGADs to storm the Capitol, but there was no thought/plan for what might happen afterwards, so it appears they did a bit of minor ransacking, milled about a bit and then filed out.

If the plan was to delay the endorsements because by law it had to be the 6th, it was always going to be resumed when safe.

Did he really think GOP Senators and Congressmen would support that course of action, and that was the plan, together they would declare victory and a new term?

So yeah, I think it was an incompetent and incomplete planned coup - essentially the plan was ‘Storm the Capitol and we’ll wing it from there’

[Edward64]

Originally Posted by AlexB

I agree - I’m struggling with what the endgame was.

It seemed the plan was to exhort his MAGADs to storm the Capitol, but there was no thought/plan for what might happen afterwards, so it appears they did a bit of minor ransacking, milled about a bit and then filed out.

If the plan was to delay the endorsements because by law it had to be the 6th, it was always going to be resumed when safe.

Did he really think GOP Senators and Congressmen would support that course of action, and that was the plan, together they would declare victory and a new term?

So yeah, I think it was an incompetent and incomplete planned coup - essentially the plan was ‘Storm the Capitol and we’ll wing it from there’

No coup attempt.

Trump wanted to show the power he had to rile supporters/people up to show'um. And he did that.

[Ben E Lou]

There is dumb.

And there is "wearing your work badge with easily identifiable company logo while you are illegally storming the United States Capitol" dumb.

NEW: A Maryland company has terminated one of its employees after he was apparently captured in a picture during the mob riot in the Capitol yesterday. @wbaltv11 pic.twitter.com/flxRhdmP3P

— Tre Ward (@TreWardWBAL) January 7, 2021

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by Edward64

No coup attempt.

Trump wanted to show the power he had to rile supporters/people up to show'um. And he did that.

This had been organized on Parler and other places for weeks. Someone on another board I read mentioned "taking back the country" and encouraged people to jump onto "alternative social media" if they wanted to join or support the cause. This stuff is monitored by various federal agencies yet they were caught off guard by what happened yesterday?

I don't know if Trump was aiming for a coup directly (I doubt it), but the group organizing this was and people somewhere in the chain looked the other way.

[Edward64]

Originally Posted by Atocep

This had been organized on Parler and other places for weeks. Someone on another board I read mentioned "taking back the country" and encouraged people to jump onto "alternative social media" if they wanted to join or support the cause. This stuff is monitored by various federal agencies yet they were caught off guard by what happened yesterday?

I don't know if Trump was aiming for a coup directly (I doubt it), but the group organizing this was and people somewhere in the chain looked the other way.

The quotes I was responding to were:

It seemed the plan was to exhort his MAGADs to storm the Capitol,

US allies say Trump attempted coup with help from federal law enforcement

So (like you) don't believe Trump was going for a coup.

Re: coup attempt by the other (e.g. not Trump himself). They may call it as such, but doubtful IMO. There would be weapons, lots of shooting and a lot more deaths. So if we want to call it a weak-coup-attempt-by-intimidation-and-vandalization, okay but I don't think it comes close to a coup.

[cartman]

Yeah, there was the pic of the guy holding a crap load of ziptie style handcuffs in the chamber

[Butter]

People wearing homemade shirts that said "MAGA Civil War"

But sure, they're just a bunch of knuckleheads that just need their hair tousled and released back into society

[lungs]

If we can’t call it a coup, can we call it a Putsch?

[Butter]

I don't know, I feel like we really gotta get DEEP into the meaning of "coup" before we can really figure out what to call it

[Butter]

Also, while we're playing the hits, who can say what their intent really was? I mean, you can't know their thoughts unless they specifically tell you what they're doing.