1904 FOOL-H Offseason Thread

[Young Drachma]

It's time to sim to the start of FA.

[Young Drachma]

Here's this week's schedule again:

File is up.

Here's the schedule for this week:

Friday: Off-Day
Saturday: Sim to start of FA
Sunday: FA1
Monday: FA2
Tuesday: Spring Training/Draft
Wednesday: Off-Day
Thursday: Season
Friday: Post-Season

[Young Drachma]

File is up. HTML being updated now.

[Young Drachma]

Sunday, November 29th, 1903
Chicago Whales: Signed free agent 1B C. Carr to a 2-year contract worth a total of $6,400,000.
Philadelphia Phillies: Signed free agent 2B H. Steinfeldt to a 5-year contract worth a total of $59,560,000.
Saturday, November 28th, 1903
New York Yankees: Signed free agent 2B P. Geier to a 1-year contract worth a total of $630,000.
Friday, November 27th, 1903
Boston Red Sox: Signed free agent SS G. Magoon to a 1-year contract worth a total of $900,000.
Wednesday, November 25th, 1903
New York Giants: Signed free agent CF C. Jones to a 2-year contract worth a total of $1,140,000.
Tuesday, November 24th, 1903
New York Giants: Signed free agent C J. Coveney to a 1-year contract worth a total of $570,000.
Sunday, November 22nd, 1903
New York Giants: Signed free agent SS B. Clingman to a 1-year contract worth a total of $590,000.
Chicago Whales: Signed free agent SP W. Sudhoff to a 2-year contract worth a total of $1,240,000.
Saturday, November 21st, 1903
New York Giants: Signed free agent SP B. Carrick to a 1-year contract worth a total of $560,000.
Wednesday, November 18th, 1903
Chicago Whales: Signed 2B C. Ritchey to a 2-year contract extension worth a total of $4,700,000.
Saturday, November 14th, 1903
Pittsburgh Pirates: Signed SP C. Young to a 2-year contract extension worth a total of $25,880,000.

[Young Drachma]

Tuesday, December 1st, 1903
New York Giants: Signed free agent 1B L. Herring to a 1-year contract worth a total of $620,000.
New York Giants: Signed free agent MR B. Dresser to a 1-year contract worth a total of $1,780,000.

[Young Drachma]

Sunday, December 6th, 1903
New York Yankees: Signed free agent 3B C. Buelow to a 1-year contract worth a total of $350,000.
Chicago Cubs: Signed free agent RF E. Flick to a 5-year contract worth a total of $72,100,000.
Friday, December 4th, 1903
Louisville Black Caps: Signed free agent SS G. DeMontreville to a 1-year contract worth a total of $1,560,000.
New York Giants: Signed free agent RF G. Hogriever to a 1-year contract worth a total of $630,000.
New York Giants: Signed free agent SS H. Jennings to a 1-year contract worth a total of $920,000.
Chicago Whales: Signed free agent C S. McAllister to a 2-year contract worth a total of $5,400,000.
Thursday, December 3rd, 1903
New York Giants: Signed free agent 3B H. Wolverton to a 1-year contract worth a total of $1,540,000.

[Young Drachma]

Saturday, December 12th, 1903
Baltimore Orioles: Signed free agent LF T. Hartsel to a 5-year contract worth a total of $96,250,000.
Pittsburgh Pirates: Signed free agent 3B C. Hickman to a 5-year contract worth a total of $90,400,000.
Wednesday, December 9th, 1903
Boston Red Sox: Signed free agent SP E. Doheny to a 1-year contract worth a total of $600,000.
Tuesday, December 8th, 1903
Philadelphia Athletics: Signed free agent C M. Grady to a 1-year contract worth a total of $1,540,000.

[Young Drachma]

File is up. FA1 is done, FA2 tomorrow night.

[JetsIn06]

Got some bargain players I really wanted. I'm very happy with this FA.

[Alan T]

Well.. lets hope this draft is at least 30-40 players deep I suppose

Lost both of my free agents to teams in the top half of the draft, so have to settle for 2nd round picks + sandwich picks.. Cursed Phillies and Orioles!

[Montreal_GM]

Originally Posted by Alan T

Well.. lets hope this draft is at least 30-40 players deep I suppose

Lost both of my free agents to teams in the top half of the draft, so have to settle for 2nd round picks + sandwich picks.. Cursed Phillies and Orioles!

No one signed my Type A guys so I guess I'll be offering them bargain basement contracts rather than let them waste away in the FA bin.

[TimGuru]

I probably need an OF with one year left on his deal, maybe 2. I have some surplus pitching. Anyone wanna deal? PM me, I prefer to evaluate a proposal to making one myself. Thanks.

[MattG]

Not doing so good in Louisville. Lost 2 big name guys and the fans hate me. Tried to sign a few guys but only got one, and now I'm almost out of money and only have 21 guys on the team.

The success of the Black Caps could be coming to an end for a while until I get a hang of things.

[TimGuru]

Sent you a PM Matt, we could possibly be the first FOOL-H trade consumaters (unless I missed posts inside threads here...there doesn't seem to be any in the trade forum). Cmon!

[Young Drachma]

Thursday, December 31st, 1903
New York Giants: Signed free agent C B. Bergen to a 1-year contract worth a total of $570,000.
Cincinnati Redlegs: Signed free agent 2B F. Raymer to a 1-year contract worth a total of $570,000.
Tuesday, December 29th, 1903
Louisville Black Caps: Signed free agent MR W. Lee to a 2-year contract worth a total of $5,720,000.
Saturday, December 26th, 1903
St. Louis Cardinals: Signed free agent 3B E. Gremminger to a 5-year contract worth a total of $4,200,000.
Brooklyn Robins: Signed free agent SP S. Leever to a 3-year contract worth a total of $13,380,000.
Brooklyn Robins: Demoted CL C. Jaeger to Triple A Saint Paul.
Baltimore Orioles: Signed free agent 2B P. O'Brien to a 3-year contract worth a total of $2,740,000.
Friday, December 25th, 1903
Cincinnati Redlegs: Signed free agent 2B C. Childs to a 2-year contract worth a total of $3,000,000.
Cincinnati Redlegs: Signed free agent C G. Yeager to a 1-year contract worth a total of $630,000.
Thursday, December 17th, 1903
Boston Red Sox: Signed free agent CF T. Leach to a 4-year contract worth a total of $40,000,000.

[Young Drachma]

Friday, January 1st, 1904
Philadelphia Athletics: Signed free agent 1B P. Dillon to a 3-year contract worth a total of $3,720,000.

[Young Drachma]

Saturday, January 30th, 1904
Brooklyn Robins: Signed free agent C H. Peitz to a 1-year contract worth a total of $1,070,000.
Brooklyn Robins: Demoted C A. Shaw to Triple A Saint Paul.
Thursday, January 14th, 1904
Louisville Black Caps: Signed free agent C F. Chance to a 5-year contract worth a total of $52,600,000.
Monday, January 11th, 1904
Brooklyn Robins: Signed free agent SP J. Corbett to a 5-year contract worth a total of $36,300,000.
Brooklyn Robins: Demoted MR C. Case to Triple A Saint Paul.
Brooklyn Robins: Signed free agent 1B D. McGann to a 1-year contract worth a total of $1,300,000.
Saturday, January 9th, 1904
Brooklyn Robins: Signed free agent 2B L. Schlafly to a 2-year contract worth a total of $8,560,000.
Brooklyn Robins: Demoted RF D. Nance to Triple A Saint Paul.
Tuesday, January 5th, 1904
Boston Beaneaters: Signed free agent RF W. Keeler to a 1-year contract worth a total of $10,780,000.
Monday, January 4th, 1904
Philadelphia Athletics: Signed free agent 1B B. Hart to a 1-year contract worth a total of $580,000.
New York Yankees: Signed free agent RF D. Holmes to a 1-year contract worth a total of $1,460,000.

[Young Drachma]

Sunday, February 7th, 1904
Brooklyn Robins: Signed free agent CL D. Deegan to a 1-year contract worth a total of $2,550,000.
Brooklyn Robins: Demoted MR B. McFadden to Triple A Saint Paul.

[Young Drachma]

File is up. Draft tomorrow, along with spring training!

[fairly]

Will players stats drop off in this league if we try to use them after the year they retired in real life? For example, my SP Chick Robitaille only played 1904-1905, does it make FOOL sense to keep him past 1905?

[Montreal_GM]

Originally Posted by fairly

Will players stats drop off in this league if we try to use them after the year they retired in real life? For example, my SP Chick Robitaille only played 1904-1905, does it make FOOL sense to keep him past 1905?

Players will not follow real life career paths. If they do, it's a coincidence.

[gstelmack]

Man Brooklyn has been handing out compensation all over the place. I got a FOURTH round pick from them plus a supplemental first for Joe Corbett.

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by gstelmack

Man Brooklyn has been handing out compensation all over the place. I got a FOURTH round pick from them plus a supplemental first for Joe Corbett.

Ouch, yeah that hurts.

[Alan T]

I am envious of the NY Giants. They get all kind of good choices to pick from in the draft.

Looks like by the time it gets to my first round pick there won't be much left (much less my supplemental or 3 second round picks). Disappointment!

[spleen1015]

Originally Posted by Alan T

I am envious of the NY Giants. They get all kind of good choices to pick from in the draft.

Looks like by the time it gets to my first round pick there won't be much left (much less my supplemental or 3 second round picks). Disappointment!

I wish I could trade you my draft pick for your trophy.

[cmldude]

I know who i would take with the 1st pick this year, Ty Cobb is going to be very good

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by cmldude

I know who i would take with the 1st pick this year, Ty Cobb is going to be very good

With the thought that players could develop differently, and pretending that I just woke up from being asleep for 300 years and did not know who Ty Cobb was, I would have him as one of my top two choices.

I probably would lean towards Cobb, but he isn't the only real nice player at the top of the draft. I just dread looking forward to Ty Cobb playing for the Giants for the next 15 seasons and having to face him every season!

[ekcut]

Originally Posted by Alan T

With the thought that players could develop differently, and pretending that I just woke up from being asleep for 300 years and did not know who Ty Cobb was, I would have him as one of my top two choices.

I probably would lean towards Cobb, but he isn't the only real nice player at the top of the draft. I just dread looking forward to Ty Cobb playing for the Giants for the next 15 seasons and having to face him every season!

I'm not sure if I will pick Cobb...Lloyd looks to be equally talented but plays a more desirable position...
I'll have to look closer....
How can Cobb not be 10sp, 10st? But like we said several times...this isn't a replay league!!

[ekcut]

Interesting player I'll be watching.
I signed 1B Lefty Herring who is a AAA calibur 1bman and noticed that he has 10 Stuff, 10 Movement and 5 control potentials. I'm going to change his position to a MR and see if he'll develop into his potentials.
Not sure why I felt the need to post this, I just thought it was really cool to see a fielder turn pitcher!

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by ekcut

Interesting player I'll be watching.
I signed 1B Lefty Herring who is a AAA calibur 1bman and noticed that he has 10 Stuff, 10 Movement and 5 control potentials. I'm going to change his position to a MR and see if he'll develop into his potentials.
Not sure why I felt the need to post this, I just thought it was really cool to see a fielder turn pitcher!

Look at my player George Mullin. He was originally a pitcher in the draft.

[TimGuru]

Rosters at 25, any chance for a quick file update DC?

[Young Drachma]

Originally Posted by TimGuru

Rosters at 25, any chance for a quick file update DC?

My bad. One second plz.

[Alan T]

Is it a bad sign that I could only find 23 guys I even wanted on my roster for spring training?

[Young Drachma]

New file is up expanding rosters to 40. I'll extend the export deadline to 9am eastern time, too, to give those who need time a bit extra.

[Young Drachma]

Originally Posted by Alan T

Is it a bad sign that I could only find 23 guys I even wanted on my roster for spring training?

Not really.

[TimGuru]

Historical is tough to fill out a 25 man roster, especially in the early going. I was in a "mature" historical league (16th season when I joined, I think) that was in 1927 when I joined, and AAA teams still only had like 6 or 7 guys.

[TimGuru]

DC, I had actually exported my draft list and would rather not re-do that than bring up my 26-28th men. Will my export take? (Sorry since I was the one who asked for the roster expansion).....

[Young Drachma]

Originally Posted by TimGuru

DC, I had actually exported my draft list and would rather not re-do that than bring up my 26-28th men. Will my export take? (Sorry since I was the one who asked for the roster expansion).....

Yeah, it'll totally take. The only time it won't take is if the date changes. If the date stays the same, you're good.

[hyde4us11]

Originally Posted by TimGuru

DC, I had actually exported my draft list and would rather not re-do that than bring up my 26-28th men. Will my export take? (Sorry since I was the one who asked for the roster expansion).....

If you take and export your roster (to your computer) then update the file, and then import your roster again. Then make any additional changes you want and re export.

[Young Drachma]

Round 1
Round 1, Pick 1 - New York Giants: CF T. Cobb
Round 1, Pick 2 - Detroit Tigers: LF B. Hinchman
Round 1, Pick 3 - New York Yankees: SP I. Young
Round 1, Pick 4 - Chicago Cubs: SS P. Lloyd
Round 1, Pick 5 - Washington Senators: SP J. Harris
Round 1, Pick 6 - Philadelphia Athletics: SP E. Cicotte
Round 1, Pick 7 - Philadelphia Phillies: SP J. Thielman
Round 1, Pick 8 - Baltimore Orioles: 3B J. Taylor
Round 1, Pick 9 - Chicago Whales: MR T. Hughes
Round 1, Pick 10 - Cincinnati Redlegs: 1B H. Chase
Round 1, Pick 11 - Detroit Tigers: MR L. Leroy
Round 1, Pick 12 - St. Louis Cardinals: MR G. Disch
Round 1, Pick 13 - Pittsburgh Pirates: SP B. Pfeffer
Round 1, Pick 14 - Louisville Black Caps: SP J. Eubank
Round 1, Pick 15 - Boston Red Sox: SP J. Dygert
Round 1, Pick 16 - Boston Beaneaters: 2B F. LaPorte
Supplemental Round 1
Round 1 (Supplemental Round), Pick 1 - Detroit Tigers: SS R. Oldring
Round 1 (Supplemental Round), Pick 2 - Louisville Black Caps: SP B. Keefe
Round 1 (Supplemental Round), Pick 3 - Louisville Black Caps: SP L. Richie
Round 1 (Supplemental Round), Pick 4 - Boston Beaneaters: RF B. Ganley
Round 1 (Supplemental Round), Pick 5 - Boston Red Sox: 3B M. Mowrey
Round 1 (Supplemental Round), Pick 6 - St. Louis Cardinals: SP L. Leifield
Round 1 (Supplemental Round), Pick 7 - Boston Beaneaters: CF B. Lord
Round 1 (Supplemental Round), Pick 8 - Louisville Black Caps: SP J. Pastorius
Round 1 (Supplemental Round), Pick 9 - Louisville Black Caps: 2B J. Hummel
Round 1 (Supplemental Round), Pick 10 - Chicago Cubs: 3B A. Hoelskoetter
Round 1 (Supplemental Round), Pick 11 - St. Louis Cardinals: 3B R. Hartzell
Round 1 (Supplemental Round), Pick 12 - Pittsburgh Pirates: C F. Owens
Round 1 (Supplemental Round), Pick 13 - New York Yankees: 1B H. Hillebrand
Round 2
Round 2, Pick 1 - New York Giants: MR H. West
Round 2, Pick 2 - Detroit Tigers: MR E. Kinsella
Round 2, Pick 3 - New York Yankees: 3B O. Knabe
Round 2, Pick 4 - Chicago Cubs: RF O. Clymer
Round 2, Pick 5 - Washington Senators: LF E. Hahn
Round 2, Pick 6 - Philadelphia Athletics: C I. Thomas
Round 2, Pick 7 - Boston Beaneaters: MR R. Vowinkel
Round 2, Pick 8 - Boston Beaneaters: 2B E. Grant
Round 2, Pick 9 - Chicago Whales: RF D. Sullivan
Round 2, Pick 10 - Cincinnati Redlegs: SS J. Knight
Round 2, Pick 11 - Louisville Black Caps: C G. Gibson
Round 2, Pick 12 - St. Louis Cardinals: 1B F. Delahanty
Round 2, Pick 13 - Pittsburgh Pirates: 2B J. Barbeau
Round 2, Pick 14 - Louisville Black Caps: SS P. Lewis
Round 2, Pick 15 - Boston Red Sox: 1B C. Lindsay
Round 2, Pick 16 - Boston Beaneaters: 2B J. Godwin
Round 3
Round 3, Pick 1 - New York Giants: 3B J. Hannifin
Round 3, Pick 2 - Detroit Tigers: C T. Spencer
Round 3, Pick 3 - New York Yankees: RF J. Himes
Round 3, Pick 4 - Chicago Cubs: MR G. Ferguson
Round 3, Pick 5 - Washington Senators: MR K. Brady
Round 3, Pick 6 - Philadelphia Athletics: CF R. DeGroff
Round 3, Pick 7 - Philadelphia Phillies: MR M. Manuel
Round 3, Pick 8 - Baltimore Orioles: MR R. Adams
Round 3, Pick 9 - Chicago Whales: MR H. Harley
Round 3, Pick 10 - Cincinnati Redlegs: 2B C. Starr
Round 3, Pick 11 - Louisville Black Caps: MR H. Ables
Round 3, Pick 12 - St. Louis Cardinals: MR E. Barry
Round 3, Pick 13 - Pittsburgh Pirates: MR O. Johns
Round 3, Pick 14 - Louisville Black Caps: C G. Shea
Round 3, Pick 15 - Boston Red Sox: RF P. Knoll
Round 3, Pick 16 - Boston Beaneaters: MR J. Halla
Round 4
Round 4, Pick 1 - New York Giants: CF S. Flanagan
Round 4, Pick 2 - Detroit Tigers: C C. Armbruster
Round 4, Pick 3 - New York Yankees: C B. Rickey
Round 4, Pick 4 - Chicago Cubs: MR H. Hardy
Round 4, Pick 5 - Washington Senators: LF H. Tate
Round 4, Pick 6 - Philadelphia Athletics: MR W. Good
Round 4, Pick 7 - Philadelphia Phillies: RF S. Shaughnessy
Round 4, Pick 8 - Baltimore Orioles: MR C. Jackson
Round 4, Pick 9 - Chicago Whales: MR J. Myers
Round 4, Pick 10 - Cincinnati Redlegs: RF B. Sharpe
Round 4, Pick 11 - Louisville Black Caps: RF J. Siegle
Round 4, Pick 12 - St. Louis Cardinals: 3B A. Strobel
Round 4, Pick 13 - Pittsburgh Pirates: MR G. Moore
Round 4, Pick 14 - Boston Red Sox: RF J. Wallace
Round 4, Pick 15 - Boston Red Sox: C H. Barton
Round 4, Pick 16 - Boston Beaneaters: MR A. Bruckmiller
Round 5
Round 5, Pick 1 - New York Giants: C A. McGovern
Round 5, Pick 2 - Detroit Tigers: RF C. Rothgeb
Round 5, Pick 3 - New York Yankees: MR E. Baker
Round 5, Pick 4 - Chicago Cubs: MR A. Goodwin
Round 5, Pick 5 - Washington Senators: MR B. Washer
Round 5, Pick 6 - Philadelphia Athletics: C J. McCarthy
Round 5, Pick 7 - Philadelphia Phillies: MR W. Justis
Round 5, Pick 8 - Baltimore Orioles: C C. Gibson
Round 5, Pick 9 - Chicago Whales: 3B J. Cockman
Round 5, Pick 10 - Cincinnati Redlegs: 1B F. Curtis
Round 5, Pick 11 - Louisville Black Caps: 1B A. Yale
Round 5, Pick 12 - St. Louis Cardinals: C H. Hart
Round 5, Pick 13 - Pittsburgh Pirates: 3B E. Leber
Round 5, Pick 14 - Brooklyn Robins: RF P. Rising
Round 5, Pick 15 - Boston Red Sox: 1B E. MacGamwell
Round 5, Pick 16 - Boston Beaneaters: C H. Wakefield
Round 6
Round 6, Pick 1 - New York Giants: 3B O. Neal
Round 6, Pick 2 - Detroit Tigers: C R. Munson
Round 6, Pick 3 - New York Yankees: SS D. Murphy
Round 6, Pick 4 - Chicago Cubs: 3B P. Cooney
Round 6, Pick 5 - Washington Senators: C B. McCarthy
Round 6, Pick 6 - Philadelphia Athletics: 1B C. Fallon

[Young Drachma]

SPRING TRAINING STANDINGS

AL
Washington 17-7
Philadelphia 14-10
Baltimore 14-10
Louisville 13-11
Chicago 13-11
Boston 11-13
New York 8-16
Detroit 6-18

NL
Pittsburgh 15-9
Cincinnati 14-10
Brooklyn 14-10
Boston 13-11
Chicago 12-12
Philadelphia 10-14
St. Louis 9-15
New York 9-15

[Alan T]

Looks like my draft list lasted part way through the 2nd round. So I got roughly 4 quality picks this time around. Not as bad as I had feared, but not as much as I would have liked for the free agents I lost.

[Young Drachma]

I uploaded the file before I left the house and it was done. The HTML is updating now.

[cmldude]

I'm hopeing for a big year from the Pirates, my pitching is decent, but i really like the bats i got now. I'm looking to at least grab the wildcard spot

[MattG]

Sweet a 31 year old pitcher with my 1st pick! The Louisville embarrassment starts already!

[TimGuru]

That just means you don't have to worry about screwing up his development.

[Alan T]

Well, I exported for the regular season.. I don't think my team is going to be crappy crappy but I definitely downgraded in three positions (Relief pitching, Left Field and second second base) this season. Even more troublesome is my team is super thin.. I have some prospects drom the draft that could help me there easily but I'm right at 64.9 mil and can't even afford to bring one of them up ..

So guess we will see how it goes this year. The league is too competitive to just put a team to hope to get by and expect to win anything, so I assume I should finish above .500 but probably 4th place I would guess.

[TimGuru]

In regard to the American league, I think that Baltimore looks like the team to beat.

Predicted order of finish:

1. Baltimore Orioles
2. Philadelphia Athletics
3. Louisville Black Caps
4. NY Yankees
5. Boston Red Sox
6. Chicago Whales
7. Detroit Tigers
8. Washington Senators

The Tigers look to have an impressive offense, but pitching looks like a problem. Something about the composition of the Red Sox doesn't ring true to me, although it was tempting to throw them higher based on last year's success. I think Matt's grousing about Louisville is a cover for a team that the AI had in surprisingly good shape. I feel that my Yankees are somewhat better, with my 2 early draft picks shoring up my pitching tremendously, but I do not think I can crack the top 2 this year.

I think the AL will once again be tight in the middle, with a similar spread of 7 or 8 games separating 5 or 6 teams from 2nd down.

[TimGuru]

dola, Washington would never be in the 8th spot if Tasan was still running them with full intent, but his expressed lack of interest and I'm not sure if the team hasn't been turned over, has me skeptical that any "magic" can be worked with a pretty depleted looking team.

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by TimGuru

dola, Washington would never be in the 8th spot if Tasan was still running them with full intent, but his expressed lack of interest and I'm not sure if the team hasn't been turned over, has me skeptical that any "magic" can be worked with a pretty depleted looking team.

Spot is running Washington now (I never updated the Team list, doing that now!). He is an OOTP veteran (having been around ootp as long as I have probably). I haven't really looked at Washington too much yet, but I expect as long as Spot takes a liking to the FOOL format, he should be able to make them not be total pushovers in a season or two.