werewolf LIV! Terror at the country club (GAME OVER WOLVES WIN) - Page 5

RPI-Fan · 09-05-2007, 08:20 PM

VOTE PURDUEBRAD

Shadiness.

hoopsguy · 09-05-2007, 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrBug708

Anyone?

My take on "best villagers" is that these are the people who, without benefit of any special role-based knowledge, most consistently determine who are the wolves. Particularly in mid-game play, but also in making the right decision the vast majority of the time in late-game play when there is more total information but no clear-cut choice.

RendeR · 09-05-2007, 08:22 PM

Ok, when did I pick up and extra r in my name?

RenderR?

RendeR · 09-05-2007, 08:23 PM

Dances around in circles tapping everyone on the shoulder screaming "DUCK....DUCK....DUCK....DUCK........GOOOOOOOOOOSEEE!" and running frantically around the others away from the goose and sitting down.

PurdueBrad · 09-05-2007, 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RPI-Fan

VOTE PURDUEBRAD

Shadiness.

Hehe, I teach in an unair-conditioned building, I wish it was shady here! RPI, I may still move my vote if I see reason. Worst case scenario though, I think we have a tie which means no lynch. Somebody convince me of their feeling and I'm willing to roll with it.

Neon_Chaos · 09-05-2007, 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RendeR

Dances around in circles tapping everyone on the shoulder screaming "DUCK....DUCK....DUCK....DUCK........GOOOOOOOOOOSEEE!" and running frantically around the others away from the goose and sitting down.

what. the. fuck.?

Lathum · 09-05-2007, 08:25 PM

updated vote count

St.Cronin- 2 RenderR (95), Molson (148)
RPI-Fan- 3 Hoopsguy (82), Telle (107), PurdueBrad (194)
RenderR- 1 St.Cronin (87)
ChiefRum- 1 Passacaglia (115)
Crim- 1 Path12 (129)
Neon_Chaos- 3 AlanT (131), Barkeep (162), Oliegirl (199)
EagleFan-1 RaidersArmy (140)
MrDNA- 1 ArlingtonColt
AlanT 2 MrDNA (143), Neon_Chaos (149)
HoopsGuy -1 EagleFan (167),
Barkeep -1 MrBug (179)
PerdueBrad-1 RPIFan (201)

RendeR · 09-05-2007, 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

Hehe, I teach in an unair-conditioned building, I wish it was shady here! RPI, I may still move my vote if I see reason. Worst case scenario though, I think we have a tie which means no lynch. Somebody convince me of their feeling and I'm willing to roll with it.

What more reason do you need?? its spelled

St. Cronin

cmon, its Easy!!

*cackles maniacly*

oliegirl · 09-05-2007, 08:26 PM

Lathum - you didn't include my vote for Neon_Chaos...

RendeR · 09-05-2007, 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neon_Chaos

what. the. fuck.?

HAHA! NOW I have you!!

RendeR · 09-05-2007, 08:27 PM

YARRRRR!

st.cronin · 09-05-2007, 08:27 PM

Lathum, I think you missed a vote by oliegirl. Post 199.

oliegirl · 09-05-2007, 08:28 PM

Shouldn't that be RenderRRRRRRRR?

hoopsguy · 09-05-2007, 08:28 PM

A thought on our seer, in the event that they care to take any advice - I would love to see a scan of one of the leading (non-lynched) vote getters today. If we get a villager, and another top vote-getter is also a villager per scan, then start looking hard at the posts by people voting on those two parties.

Example - Neon and RPI have the top two vote totals, with RPI getting lynched as villager. A scan shows that Neon was also a villager. Chances are that you can
1. discard one vote (self-preservation by the villager)
2. discard another vote (attempted self-preservation by the dead villager)
3. potentially the seer voted for one of those candidates

Maybe all three don't come into play, but in a vote that is as shallow (leaders with 3 votes) and deep (10+ candidates) I think that this strategy makes a good amount of sense for today.

PurdueBrad · 09-05-2007, 08:29 PM

RPI, I apparently can't count, to preserve the tie,

unvote RPI

oliegirl · 09-05-2007, 08:30 PM

I'm completely exhausted and there is no way I can stay awake til 10:30...I'm heading to bed and will check in tomorrow mroning about 9:45 when I get to work...

st.cronin · 09-05-2007, 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

RPI, I apparently can't count, to preserve the tie,

unvote RPI

Um, actually that BREAKS the tie. I have:

3 - RPI-Fan - Hoopsguy (82), Telle (107), PurdueBrad (194)
3 - Neon_Chaos - AlanT (131), Barkeep (162), oliegirl (199)
2 - St.Cronin - RenderR (95), Molson (148)
2 - Barkeep49 - MrBug (179), Neon Chaos (193)
1 - PurdueBrad - RPI-fan (201)
1 - AlanT - MrDNA (143)
1 - RrenderR - St.Cronin (87)
1 - ChiefRum - Passacaglia (115)
1 - Crim - Path12 (129)
1 - EagleFan - RaidersArmy (140)
1 - MrDNA - ArlingtonColt
1 - hoopsguy - EagleFan (167)

Your unvote puts Neon in the lead.

RPI-Fan · 09-05-2007, 08:30 PM

Or, let's make this easy and not lynch an f'ing villager in the first place????

RendeR · 09-05-2007, 08:30 PM

Dude, thats was like....soooo deep mon...it was almost shallow it was so deep, ya know?

RPI-Fan · 09-05-2007, 08:31 PM

UNVOTE PURDUEBRAD

RendeR · 09-05-2007, 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oliegirl

Shouldn't that be RenderRRRRRRRR?

nah, I preser RRRRRRRRRRRRRrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrEEnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnDERRrrrrrrrrrrrr!

PurdueBrad · 09-05-2007, 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RendeR

What more reason do you need?? its spelled

St. Cronin

cmon, its Easy!!

*cackles maniacly*

Now that was a hell of a case! It's like the Johnny Cochrane Wookie defense from South Park!

RendeR · 09-05-2007, 08:32 PM

Prefer even, god damnit.

PurdueBrad · 09-05-2007, 08:35 PM

I briefly read through the thread, we are assuming four wolves? Is that normal, high, or low?

molson · 09-05-2007, 08:37 PM

There's not enough golf references in people's posts.

Neon_Chaos · 09-05-2007, 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

RPI, I apparently can't count, to preserve the tie,

unvote RPI

You just broke the tie and made me the vote leader.

And apparently, you can't count.

Neon_Chaos · 09-05-2007, 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

I briefly read through the thread, we are assuming four wolves? Is that normal, high, or low?

Just about normal, considering there's a possibility for the Wolves to convert someone.

PurdueBrad · 09-05-2007, 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neon_Chaos

You just broke the tie and made me the vote leader.

And apparently, you can't count.

Yeah, I saw Cronin's post and I'm sitting on the fence. I read Lathum's earlier and thought that it had a tie listed so either I can't read or there was an error. Hope I can read since I'm an English teacher.

st.cronin · 09-05-2007, 08:41 PM

Still no sign of Chief Rum or Crim.

PurdueBrad · 09-05-2007, 08:42 PM

Maybe this is a naive, newbie question. Why don't we try to engineer ties?

PurdueBrad · 09-05-2007, 08:42 PM

Looking back, I just can't read apparently. (embarrassed)

Lathum · 09-05-2007, 08:43 PM

updated vote count

St.Cronin- 2 RenderR (95), Molson (148)
RPI-Fan- 2 Hoopsguy (82), Telle (107),
RenderR- 1 St.Cronin (87)
ChiefRum- 1 Passacaglia (115)
Crim- 1 Path12 (129)
Neon_Chaos- 3 AlanT (131), Barkeep (162), Oliegirl (199)
EagleFan-1 RaidersArmy (140)
MrDNA- 1 ArlingtonColt
AlanT 2 MrDNA (143), Neon_Chaos (149)
HoopsGuy -1 EagleFan (167),
Barkeep -1 MrBug (179)

RendeR · 09-05-2007, 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by molson

There's not enough golf references in people's posts.

Quiet or we'll 9-iron you out onto the 18th fairway and string your wolfy butt up on the flag so your blood collects in the final cup. many strokes later of course.

Better?

Neon_Chaos · 09-05-2007, 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum

updated vote count

St.Cronin- 2 RenderR (95), Molson (148)
RPI-Fan- 2 Hoopsguy (82), Telle (107),
RenderR- 1 St.Cronin (87)
ChiefRum- 1 Passacaglia (115)
Crim- 1 Path12 (129)
Neon_Chaos- 3 AlanT (131), Barkeep (162), Oliegirl (199)
EagleFan-1 RaidersArmy (140)
MrDNA- 1 ArlingtonColt
AlanT 2 MrDNA (143), Neon_Chaos (149)
HoopsGuy -1 EagleFan (167),
Barkeep -1 MrBug (179)

My vote is on Barkeep, Lathum.

MrBug708 · 09-05-2007, 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum

updated vote count

St.Cronin- 2 RenderR (95), Molson (148)
RPI-Fan- 2 Hoopsguy (82), Telle (107),
RenderR- 1 St.Cronin (87)
ChiefRum- 1 Passacaglia (115)
Crim- 1 Path12 (129)
Neon_Chaos- 3 AlanT (131), Barkeep (162), Oliegirl (199)
EagleFan-1 RaidersArmy (140)
MrDNA- 1 ArlingtonColt
AlanT 2 MrDNA (143), Neon_Chaos (149)
HoopsGuy -1 EagleFan (167),
Barkeep -1 MrBug (179)

Your list seems to contradicts St. Cronin's list. I think that Neon still has voted for Barkeep?

st.cronin · 09-05-2007, 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

Maybe this is a naive, newbie question. Why don't we try to engineer ties?

I'm not opposed to that idea.

Barkeep49 · 09-05-2007, 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

Maybe this is a naive, newbie question. Why don't we try to engineer ties?

Hard to do. Some (and I think I'm in this camp for this game) think that a no lynch on Day 1 is a bad thing. I could be wrong here though due to the extra BG element running around with the items of protection.

Barkeep49 · 09-05-2007, 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by st.cronin

Still no sign of Chief Rum or Crim.

I am completely OK with lynching a non-participating villager Day 1. I know CR said he was busy d1 so I'll cut him so slack. In otherwords, if there is some movement I could see myself voting for Crim.

RendeR · 09-05-2007, 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by st.cronin

I'm not opposed to that idea.

Ties mean no lynch, you normally HATE no lynch......now I'm beginning to be truely suspicious.

st.cronin · 09-05-2007, 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RendeR

Ties mean no lynch, you normally HATE no lynch......now I'm beginning to be truely suspicious.

I am probably the MOST vocal proponent of no lynch in game after game.

Neon_Chaos · 09-05-2007, 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

I am completely OK with lynching a non-participating villager Day 1. I know CR said he was busy d1 so I'll cut him so slack. In otherwords, if there is some movement I could see myself voting for Crim.

If it means saving my villager ass, I would be willing to go this route as well. It really sucks that we're not even considering voting out the people who haven't shown up and giving them a free pass for night one, when there are a lot of us online right now.

Lathum · 09-05-2007, 08:52 PM

updated vote count

Neon_Chaos- 3 AlanT (131), Barkeep (162), Oliegirl (199)
St.Cronin- 2 RenderR (95), Molson (148)
RPI-Fan- 2 Hoopsguy (82), Telle (107),
Barkeep -2 MrBug (179), Neon Chaos (193)
RenderR- 1 St.Cronin (87)
ChiefRum- 1 Passacaglia (115)
Crim- 1 Path12 (129)
EagleFan-1 RaidersArmy (140)
MrDNA- 1 ArlingtonColt
AlanT 2 MrDNA (143), Neon_Chaos (149)
HoopsGuy -1 EagleFan (167),

MrBug708 · 09-05-2007, 08:55 PM

We don't have an official tie yet, things can change in the next 30 minutes

molson · 09-05-2007, 08:56 PM

Starting to lean towards changing my vote for Crim. But I don't want a landslide in that direction either.

EagleFan · 09-05-2007, 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum

updated vote count

St.Cronin- 2 RenderR (95), Molson (148)
RPI-Fan- 2 Hoopsguy (82), Telle (107),
RenderR- 1 St.Cronin (87)
ChiefRum- 1 Passacaglia (115)
Crim- 1 Path12 (129)
Neon_Chaos- 3 AlanT (131), Barkeep (162), Oliegirl (199)
EagleFan-1 RaidersArmy (140)
MrDNA- 1 ArlingtonColt
AlanT 2 MrDNA (143), Neon_Chaos (149)
HoopsGuy -1 EagleFan (167),
Barkeep -2 MrBug (179), Neon Chaos (193)

You have Neon_Chaos listed as voting twice on this one.

RendeR · 09-05-2007, 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by st.cronin

I am probably the MOST vocal proponent of no lynch in game after game.

*I* know this

*YOU* know this.....

Neon_Chaos · 09-05-2007, 08:58 PM

If someone changes to Crim, I will put my vote that way as well.

RendeR · 09-05-2007, 08:58 PM

But THEY don't know this......

err

well they do now...

DAMNIT.

RPI-Fan · 09-05-2007, 08:59 PM

somethings fishy...that has N_C voting twice

molson · 09-05-2007, 08:59 PM

I'm starting to think Lathum's with the wolves.

09-05-2007, 08:20 PM	#201
RPI-Fan Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Troy, NY	VOTE PURDUEBRAD Shadiness. __________________ Quis custodiets ipsos custodes?

09-05-2007, 08:22 PM	#203
RendeR Coordinator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Buffalo, NY	Ok, when did I pick up and extra r in my name? RenderR? __________________ http://wotlabs.net/s...8/signature.png http://wotlabs.net/sig_dark/na/banichi18/signature.png

09-05-2007, 08:23 PM	#204
RendeR Coordinator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Buffalo, NY	Dances around in circles tapping everyone on the shoulder screaming "DUCK....DUCK....DUCK....DUCK........GOOOOOOOOOOSEEE!" and running frantically around the others away from the goose and sitting down. __________________ http://wotlabs.net/s...8/signature.png http://wotlabs.net/sig_dark/na/banichi18/signature.png

09-05-2007, 08:25 PM	#207
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	updated vote count St.Cronin- 2 RenderR (95), Molson (148) RPI-Fan- 3 Hoopsguy (82), Telle (107), PurdueBrad (194) RenderR- 1 St.Cronin (87) ChiefRum- 1 Passacaglia (115) Crim- 1 Path12 (129) Neon_Chaos- 3 AlanT (131), Barkeep (162), Oliegirl (199) EagleFan-1 RaidersArmy (140) MrDNA- 1 ArlingtonColt AlanT 2 MrDNA (143), Neon_Chaos (149) HoopsGuy -1 EagleFan (167), Barkeep -1 MrBug (179) PerdueBrad-1 RPIFan (201) Last edited by Lathum : 09-05-2007 at 08:27 PM.

09-05-2007, 08:27 PM	#211
RendeR Coordinator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Buffalo, NY	YARRRRR! __________________ http://wotlabs.net/s...8/signature.png http://wotlabs.net/sig_dark/na/banichi18/signature.png

09-05-2007, 08:27 PM	#212
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	Lathum, I think you missed a vote by oliegirl. Post 199. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

09-05-2007, 08:28 PM	#214
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	A thought on our seer, in the event that they care to take any advice - I would love to see a scan of one of the leading (non-lynched) vote getters today. If we get a villager, and another top vote-getter is also a villager per scan, then start looking hard at the posts by people voting on those two parties. Example - Neon and RPI have the top two vote totals, with RPI getting lynched as villager. A scan shows that Neon was also a villager. Chances are that you can 1. discard one vote (self-preservation by the villager) 2. discard another vote (attempted self-preservation by the dead villager) 3. potentially the seer voted for one of those candidates Maybe all three don't come into play, but in a vote that is as shallow (leaders with 3 votes) and deep (10+ candidates) I think that this strategy makes a good amount of sense for today.

09-05-2007, 08:29 PM	#215
PurdueBrad Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DeKalb, IL	RPI, I apparently can't count, to preserve the tie, unvote RPI

09-05-2007, 08:30 PM	#218
RPI-Fan Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Troy, NY	Or, let's make this easy and not lynch an f'ing villager in the first place???? __________________ Quis custodiets ipsos custodes?

09-05-2007, 08:30 PM	#219
RendeR Coordinator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Buffalo, NY	Dude, thats was like....soooo deep mon...it was almost shallow it was so deep, ya know? __________________ http://wotlabs.net/s...8/signature.png http://wotlabs.net/sig_dark/na/banichi18/signature.png

09-05-2007, 08:31 PM	#220
RPI-Fan Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Troy, NY	UNVOTE PURDUEBRAD __________________ Quis custodiets ipsos custodes?

09-05-2007, 08:32 PM	#223
RendeR Coordinator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Buffalo, NY	Prefer even, god damnit. __________________ http://wotlabs.net/s...8/signature.png http://wotlabs.net/sig_dark/na/banichi18/signature.png

09-05-2007, 08:35 PM	#224
PurdueBrad Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DeKalb, IL	I briefly read through the thread, we are assuming four wolves? Is that normal, high, or low?

09-05-2007, 08:37 PM	#225
molson General Manager Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Mountains	There's not enough golf references in people's posts.

09-05-2007, 08:41 PM	#229
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	Still no sign of Chief Rum or Crim. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

09-05-2007, 08:42 PM	#230
PurdueBrad Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DeKalb, IL	Maybe this is a naive, newbie question. Why don't we try to engineer ties?

09-05-2007, 08:42 PM	#231
PurdueBrad Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DeKalb, IL	Looking back, I just can't read apparently. (embarrassed)

09-05-2007, 08:43 PM	#232
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	updated vote count St.Cronin- 2 RenderR (95), Molson (148) RPI-Fan- 2 Hoopsguy (82), Telle (107), RenderR- 1 St.Cronin (87) ChiefRum- 1 Passacaglia (115) Crim- 1 Path12 (129) Neon_Chaos- 3 AlanT (131), Barkeep (162), Oliegirl (199) EagleFan-1 RaidersArmy (140) MrDNA- 1 ArlingtonColt AlanT 2 MrDNA (143), Neon_Chaos (149) HoopsGuy -1 EagleFan (167), Barkeep -1 MrBug (179)

09-05-2007, 08:52 PM	#242
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	updated vote count Neon_Chaos- 3 AlanT (131), Barkeep (162), Oliegirl (199) St.Cronin- 2 RenderR (95), Molson (148) RPI-Fan- 2 Hoopsguy (82), Telle (107), Barkeep -2 MrBug (179), Neon Chaos (193) RenderR- 1 St.Cronin (87) ChiefRum- 1 Passacaglia (115) Crim- 1 Path12 (129) EagleFan-1 RaidersArmy (140) MrDNA- 1 ArlingtonColt AlanT 2 MrDNA (143), Neon_Chaos (149) HoopsGuy -1 EagleFan (167), Last edited by Lathum : 09-05-2007 at 09:00 PM.

09-05-2007, 08:55 PM	#243
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	We don't have an official tie yet, things can change in the next 30 minutes

09-05-2007, 08:56 PM	#244
molson General Manager Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Mountains	Starting to lean towards changing my vote for Crim. But I don't want a landslide in that direction either.

09-05-2007, 08:58 PM	#247
Neon_Chaos Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Parañaque, Philippines	If someone changes to Crim, I will put my vote that way as well. __________________ Come and see.

09-05-2007, 08:58 PM	#248
RendeR Coordinator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Buffalo, NY	But THEY don't know this...... err well they do now... DAMNIT. __________________ http://wotlabs.net/s...8/signature.png http://wotlabs.net/sig_dark/na/banichi18/signature.png

09-05-2007, 08:59 PM	#249
RPI-Fan Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Troy, NY	somethings fishy...that has N_C voting twice __________________ Quis custodiets ipsos custodes?

09-05-2007, 08:59 PM	#250
molson General Manager Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Mountains	I'm starting to think Lathum's with the wolves.

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