WW Amazing Race - Game Over (Moles Win & Team Reebok Wins) - Page 22

Passacaglia · 03-01-2011, 01:47 PM

Looks like there definitely can be. Sorry for lying mckerney, but I am going to hang on to my CR vote for a while and see how that goes.

Passacaglia · 03-01-2011, 01:49 PM

FYI, this is why I hate the cunning wolf role. It totally devalues the seer. It really doesn't help to know that he's not Wolf X or Wolf Y, oh but he still could be Wolf Z.

Danny · 03-01-2011, 01:55 PM

There is, but no reason to make that vote at this point.

Lathum · 03-01-2011, 02:12 PM

Today is super busy for me and I don't have much to go on. Going to try and check out things a bit later but may not be able to.

I also think I am likely dead tonight with the seer now being gone.

Lathum · 03-01-2011, 02:22 PM

I have to keep asking myself why kill DV?

Did he give something away in his posts? Is his partner lying about something?

DV is a good player, but I find it hard to think it was a coincidence they got the seer so easily.

VOTE Bholly

Lathum · 03-01-2011, 02:22 PM

vote bholly

Autumn · 03-01-2011, 02:27 PM

Could be, Lathum. But in looking back through Darth's votes I thought he did drop a few hints that might have put the wolves on his trail.

That said, even if Bhlloy is a villager, finding out for sure does clear things up for us, so it's not a bad vote.

I can't figure out where to go, I haven't found anything to rest my vote on, and I have to go very soon. grrr.

Autumn · 03-01-2011, 02:33 PM

In the same category of people casting votes Day 1, once Mauboy looked to be the lead vote getter, for other targets we have Hoopsguy, Danny, Zinto, NTN, Pass, Chief. This is one spot in the day's votes where I would expect to see a wolf try to push another canddiate. Some of these guys have moves elsewhere that makes them look a bit better (Danny, NTN, Chief). So I think I may choose from Hoops, Zinto or Pass.

bhlloy · 03-01-2011, 02:35 PM

I'm back around. Somebody already said but Mauboy isn't my teammate. My vote for him on Day 1 was purely because of his bizarre couple of posts and I didn't take it off because I wasn't around after the MartinD reveal.

I'll probably head to bed in a bit because I'm jetlagged as hell, I don't really know who to vote for either. I'd still like to hear a better explanation from Danny why he voted with Mauboy for CF (who ended up the first NK the next evening) on day 1 other than "he was just someone who was in the thread at the time". That doesn't really fly for me. But I don't think he's a wolf either, it's just something that seems strange.

Autumn · 03-01-2011, 02:37 PM

Yes, I also don't understand your switch off of NTN after Mauboy's reveal, Danny.

Autumn · 03-01-2011, 02:42 PM

I'm going to vote Zinto. Mostly because he's on that list, and is quiet enough and new enough that he could continue slipping under the radar. Better to put a fire under him now. I'll be out for a while unfortunately, hopefully back before deadline.

VOTE ZINTO

Chief Rum · 03-01-2011, 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

So if I'm going to whine about getting votes, and about being paired off with ntn, I might as well throw out a name. This guy voted for mau twice, and unvoted him twice. That gives me a hunch that he was trying to make it look like there were runs to save ntn, and get more people to vote his way.

Hmm, maybe you should take a closer look at what was happening there.

I voted mau because of his following up with a second vote so quick (I forget who he voted, probably ntn). If you recall, he claimed he was preparing his vote post and then got interrupted at work and couldn't post his vote fro 45 minutes. By the time he did, it was right after someone else had voted the same guy. So it looked like a quick follow vote. It was Day One after all, not much is needed to put a guy on the block.

In any case, I started a vote post of my own. There was maybe one vote on mau at the time. By the time I finished my post, there was another mau vote, and then someone followed me with a mau vote. That was in a very quick stretch. I decided I didn't like that, and that's why I unvoted mau.

I later voted for ntn in a self-defense move; it was me, mau and ntn on the block at the time, and I was still skittish about voting mau, given the way that run had developed. ntn also had his vote on me. He and I agreed to take our votes off of one another because we both felt there were better candidates. At this point I went back to mauboy1, still in self-defense mode.

I stayed on mauboy1 until he did the seer hint-reveal. That was getting closer to when I was leaving for the day, and I wasn't going to leave my vote on the potential seer. So I unvoted mau and went to JAG, one of the few others with a vote, avoiding ntn because I had already told him I wouldn't vote for him that day. At the time it was looking like an ntn-mau head to head, and people were starting to jump off of mau with his "reveal".

I left for the day at that point (or at least until past deadline), and so I wasn't around for the MartinD stuff.

It was a Day One vote, and crazier than normal, with all the weird runs. I was prepared to lynch mau on Day One and would have if he didn't do the fake reveal.

CrimsonFox · 03-01-2011, 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum

I have to keep asking myself why kill DV?

Did he give something away in his posts? Is his partner lying about something?

DV is a good player, but I find it hard to think it was a coincidence they got the seer so easily.

VOTE Bholly

I'm going with Seer searching as a reason. Back on Day 2 when everyone was jumping on the "kill jackal" bandwagon and some were even saying "Oh wow Mau is the seer, we should not vote him then", DV and I both expressed our doubts aloud, the post Autumn posted from me included.

HEre are the posts specifically from DV.
Post 306 Day 1

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darth Vilus

Exactly Danny

1) If he's lying the real seer would automatically know
2) You're unvoting him because he might be the seer but you hope the real seer scans him tonight? How can you possibly explain that reasoning?

then 310
322

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darth Vilus

well I'm not sure about mauboy yet but it's better safe then sorry.

Unvote Mauboy

Vote MartinD

And after I posted my doubts about mau as seer at #456,
DV chimed in at 469

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darth Vilus

I don't like Mauboy's reveal to be honest. It just doesn't sit with me. If he was goin to hint instead of coming right out with it his hint wouldn't have been so blatant

At first I thought it was just revenge or to keep me quiet, but now I think there might have been some suspicion from the wolves that one of us two was the seer since we were both saying Mau sounds like a fake. I think it's in our best interest to AT LEAST FOR TODAY assume the bholly/GE scans are legitimate. It's the only thing we have to go on today other than saldana's innocence by day 1 wolf kill.

EagleFan · 03-01-2011, 03:10 PM

As teams struggle to plan for their next leg you notice that Lathum is now wearing a T-shirt for a rival reality show.

He has now been "killed" from the werewolf portion of the game. He may continue to post and play until his team is eliminated from the race (if they are eliminated).

Lathum was your bodyguard.

EagleFan · 03-01-2011, 03:11 PM

An even louder evil laughter is heard...

laugh..LAUGH LAUGH... cough

"sorry, but we enjoyed that"

PackerFanatic · 03-01-2011, 03:14 PM

Oh snap...a day kill for the wolves?

EagleFan · 03-01-2011, 03:16 PM

As of post 1066:

ntndeacon 1 - PackerFanatic (1021)
Chief Rum 1 - Passacaglia (1042)
GoldenEagle 1 - mckerney (1045)
bhlloy 1 - Lathum (1056)
Zinto 1 - Autumn (1061)

hoopsguy · 03-01-2011, 03:17 PM

Well, I guess at the start of the game I would have taken 2 wolves for the seer + bodyguard, but still tough to lose both of those roles this early in the game.

I don't see any wolf roles that should have been able to do this ... hidden role, some kind of reward for a race, anyone have thoughts on this?

Danny · 03-01-2011, 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Autumn

Yes, I also don't understand your switch off of NTN after Mauboy's reveal, Danny.

I guess what was going through my mind was trying to save my teammate and the potential seer and it not looking like ntn was going to get enough support. I stand by my decision to try and save mau, but my reasoning for picking crimsonfox was weak so I agree with you guys there.

GoldenEagle · 03-01-2011, 03:20 PM

A day kill for the wolves?

I think this rules out bholly for a vote. The wolves are trying to frame Lathum. I think we should make sure Lathum's team stays in the race as he can provide us with a trusted opinion.

PackerFanatic · 03-01-2011, 03:20 PM

At this stage of the game, having 5 votes on 5 different people is certainly not helping things, so if ntn doesn't get more of a push, I will gladly move my vote (probably to bhlloy at this point, based on what Lathum said earlier)

I haven't played in as many games as others, but I don't recall ever seeing something like this.

Zinto · 03-01-2011, 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Autumn

I'm going to vote Zinto. Mostly because he's on that list, and is quiet enough and new enough that he could continue slipping under the radar. Better to put a fire under him now. I'll be out for a while unfortunately, hopefully back before deadline.

VOTE ZINTO

I can not disagree with you on any of the points you are making Autumn because I am new and quiet but I do believe there has to be someone better to lynch than me. However I am willing to bite the bullet today if the group comes to the consensus that we will learn the most by lynching me.

PackerFanatic · 03-01-2011, 03:22 PM

Frame Lathum for what, GE?

EagleFan · 03-01-2011, 03:22 PM

Lathum's vote that he cast still counts towards the lynch.

Zinto · 03-01-2011, 03:24 PM

I agree that we should lay off bhlloy today because it seems like this is a move to draw interest on to him.

JAG · 03-01-2011, 03:25 PM

Well that sucks. I don't remember reading any role info that could do that.

CrimsonFox · 03-01-2011, 03:26 PM

WTF! a 1:10 PM kill? WTF!

JAG · 03-01-2011, 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Well, I guess at the start of the game I would have taken 2 wolves for the seer + bodyguard, but still tough to lose both of those roles this early in the game.

I don't see any wolf roles that should have been able to do this ... hidden role, some kind of reward for a race, anyone have thoughts on this?

I can confirm (and mckerney can back me up on this) that we didn't get any special message / reward for being in first at the end of the D2 segment. I presume the same was true for you and CR? (and Lathum/Jackal can chime in for D1). So I don't think it's race-related unless it's wolf-only and that would seem unbalancing. That doesn't leave me with much since I don't remember reading about hidden roles or abilities this game.

bhlloy · 03-01-2011, 03:31 PM

Just throwing it out there... if this was a reward for winning a race then that's a pretty short list of candidates...

This is what EF has put up there, which lends credibility to that theory (for me at least

9) Lathum - Promotion Specialist (day four "unblockable" unlocked bonus)

Leg 1 was two confirmed villagers (Jackal and Lathum)
Leg 2 was JAG and McKerney, who are two guys I haven't seen a lot of discussion on
Leg 3 is CR and hoopsguy

Anybody see anything interesting in there?

bhlloy · 03-01-2011, 03:33 PM

good points JAG - but I don't see any reason it couldn't be a wolf only unlockable. It's either that or it's a wolf hidden role, doesn't seem like one is more unbalancing than the other.

CrimsonFox · 03-01-2011, 03:36 PM

Well out of the remaining players no one has been cleared absolutely but several people I think are mostly cleared and therefore I trust.

trust through actions: Saldana
trust through "scan" story: Bhlloy, GoldenEagle - I believe this. NO reason to doubt it at this point.
trust through posts and talk: Autumn - I think he's done the most at trying to accuse wolves as wolves and villagers as villagers

Getting weirdness from:
Danny - nothing he's said this game really makes any sense and his actions have been questionable. With the exception that today he said "Don't vote GE". THAT makes sense and feels villagery.
hoops - he's still here.

Not getting a lot of negative vibes from others altho there are a LOT of quiet people, some who are new (cougarfreak), some who are old (JAG, CR, ntn) and just general chiming in of safe one-liners. Safe one-liners that seem forced are often wolfy tho.

JAG · 03-01-2011, 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bhlloy

Just throwing it out there... if this was a reward for winning a race then that's a pretty short list of candidates...

This is what EF has put up there, which lends credibility to that theory (for me at least

9) Lathum - Promotion Specialist (day four "unblockable" unlocked bonus)

Leg 1 was two confirmed villagers (Jackal and Lathum)
Leg 2 was JAG and McKerney, who are two guys I haven't seen a lot of discussion on
Leg 3 is CR and hoopsguy

Anybody see anything interesting in there?

That's interesting, I hadn't seen that bonus listed by his name. Only other thing I can think of is his unlocked bonus was somehow related to his blocking an NK. Hopefully Lathum can fill us in.

GoldenEagle · 03-01-2011, 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PackerFanatic

Frame Lathum for what, GE?

Sorry. They are trying to frame bholly as a wolf.

bhlloy · 03-01-2011, 03:43 PM

Yeah that might make more sense with the phrase "unblockable" thinking about it. Would explain why the wolves weren't stressed about getting rid of Lathum day 2 like we were all expecting them to do.

Chief Rum · 03-01-2011, 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

Not getting a lot of negative vibes from others altho there are a LOT of quiet people, some who are new (cougarfreak), some who are old (JAG, CR, ntn) and just general chiming in of safe one-liners. Safe one-liners that seem forced are often wolfy tho.

I wouldn't describe me as quiet. I have 33 posts in the thread (around 7th in the game), which is actually more than you.

CrimsonFox · 03-01-2011, 03:49 PM

Maybe I'm just used to you having more

I hadn't really noticed you were talking much, at least these last couple days.

Chief Rum · 03-01-2011, 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

Maybe I'm just used to you having more

I hadn't really noticed you were talking much, at least these last couple days.

That might be it. I have been busier at work. I think I did a lot more talking on Thursday and Friday.

CrimsonFox · 03-01-2011, 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

ntn also had his vote on me. He and I agreed to take our votes off of one another because we both felt there were better candidates. At this point I went back to mauboy1, still in self-defense mode.

As I recall that wasn't the reason. It seemed more of a "You save me, and I'll save you " from ntn and then later when ntn was in trouble and you were not, you saved him because he saved you. At least that's what you said. Not because there were better candidates.

JAG · 03-01-2011, 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

That might be it. I have been busier at work. I think I did a lot more talking on Thursday and Friday.

I assumed the general quietness was more busy-related for more of the usually talkative folks. I know it's the case for me at least. I still need a thorough look at D1 and haven't been able to yet, and unsure when I will be able.

ntndeacon · 03-01-2011, 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zinto

The only other thing that really really caught my attention was that even though Mau claimed a role I am not sure why NTN removed his vote off of Mau to Jag. Jag did not have any other votes on him at that point and it does not make a lot of sense to get out of the self preservation mode.

well there were two things that went into that desicion. First off, I removed my vote for mau for the obvious reason. a supposed seer call out on day one, I was sure gonna not be the cause of their removal, especially at my lack of a role. As for why to move to JAG, well that was a misunderstanding on my part. I thought JAG still had a vote.

GoldenEagle · 03-01-2011, 03:57 PM

VOTE NTNDEACON

I think this vote gives us the most information. 50/50 shot at nailing a wolf.

bhlloy · 03-01-2011, 03:59 PM

Alright, I'm heading out for the night. Unless anybody has a better option I'm going to go with Zinto by default as I don't see anybody else with votes that I remotely like as a wolf

Vote Zinto

Chief Rum · 03-01-2011, 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

As I recall that wasn't the reason. It seemed more of a "You save me, and I'll save you " from ntn and then later when ntn was in trouble and you were not, you saved him because he saved you. At least that's what you said. Not because there were better candidates.

Yeah, I was fuzzy on why we were talking about mutually moving off of one another, and I thought I had said. I think we were both acknowledging we only voted for one another out of self-defense and came to the agreement to look elsewhere. In the end, same difference; ntn moved off of me fairly quickly, and I moved off of him a little bit later.

mckerney · 03-01-2011, 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny

There is, but no reason to make that vote at this point.

Unvote Golden Eagle

I'm not going to consider anyone cleared by a scan with a cunning wolf out there, but if no one else is willing to go down that road I'll drop it for now.

CrimsonFox · 03-01-2011, 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PackerFanatic

At this stage of the game, having 5 votes on 5 different people is certainly not helping things, so if ntn doesn't get more of a push, I will gladly move my vote (probably to bhlloy at this point, based on what Lathum said earlier)

To bhlloy? This doesn't sit well with me.

bhlloy · 03-01-2011, 04:02 PM

I was thinking ntn, but my problem with ntn is that he was the big run that took the heat of Mauboy on day 1. I don't see why the wolves take it off mauboy to put it on another one of their own.

Passacaglia · 03-01-2011, 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

To bhlloy? This doesn't sit well with me.

Me neither. I'm on GE as being the cunning, but if bhlloy is the cunning, I don't see the wolves killing the seer. They'd want to keep DV around so he could tell everyone that he scanned bhlloy.

Passacaglia · 03-01-2011, 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bhlloy

I was thinking ntn, but my problem with ntn is that he was the big run that took the heat of Mauboy on day 1. I don't see why the wolves take it off mauboy to put it on another one of their own.

Probably if ntn is the cunning -- they'd rather have a vanilla wolf get lynched then the cunning, who might get falsely cleared later.

Lathum · 03-01-2011, 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

I don't see any wolf roles that should have been able to do this ... hidden role, some kind of reward for a race, anyone have thoughts on this?

Me neither, pretty crappy luck and I can be as mad at EF as I like for there not being anything in the rules.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zinto

I agree that we should lay off bhlloy today because it seems like this is a move to draw interest on to him.

disagree. I was a logical kill choice regardless of who I voted for.

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoldenEagle

Sorry. They are trying to frame bholly as a wolf.

disagree

Passacaglia · 03-01-2011, 04:09 PM

Lathum, can you explain why you think the wolves would kill DV is they knew he scanned the cunning?

03-01-2011, 03:10 PM	#1064
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	As teams struggle to plan for their next leg you notice that Lathum is now wearing a T-shirt for a rival reality show. He has now been "killed" from the werewolf portion of the game. He may continue to post and play until his team is eliminated from the race (if they are eliminated). Lathum was your bodyguard. __________________ The EagleFan YouTube Channel - Reactions Soarin' & Scratchin' YouTube Channel - We react to music, videos, TV, we talk, we are planning some field trips Soarin' & Soothin' - Meditation, Relaxation, and Sleep Aid; mental health is important

03-01-2011, 03:11 PM	#1065
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	An even louder evil laughter is heard... laugh..LAUGH LAUGH... cough "sorry, but we enjoyed that" __________________ The EagleFan YouTube Channel - Reactions Soarin' & Scratchin' YouTube Channel - We react to music, videos, TV, we talk, we are planning some field trips Soarin' & Soothin' - Meditation, Relaxation, and Sleep Aid; mental health is important

03-01-2011, 03:16 PM	#1067
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	As of post 1066: ntndeacon 1 - PackerFanatic (1021) Chief Rum 1 - Passacaglia (1042) GoldenEagle 1 - mckerney (1045) bhlloy 1 - Lathum (1056) Zinto 1 - Autumn (1061) __________________ The EagleFan YouTube Channel - Reactions Soarin' & Scratchin' YouTube Channel - We react to music, videos, TV, we talk, we are planning some field trips Soarin' & Soothin' - Meditation, Relaxation, and Sleep Aid; mental health is important

03-01-2011, 03:20 PM	#1070
GoldenEagle Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Little Rock, AR	A day kill for the wolves? I think this rules out bholly for a vote. The wolves are trying to frame Lathum. I think we should make sure Lathum's team stays in the race as he can provide us with a trusted opinion. __________________ Xbox 360 Gamer Tag: GoldenEagle014

03-01-2011, 03:22 PM	#1074
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	Lathum's vote that he cast still counts towards the lynch. __________________ The EagleFan YouTube Channel - Reactions Soarin' & Scratchin' YouTube Channel - We react to music, videos, TV, we talk, we are planning some field trips Soarin' & Soothin' - Meditation, Relaxation, and Sleep Aid; mental health is important

03-01-2011, 01:47 PM	#1051
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	Looks like there definitely can be. Sorry for lying mckerney, but I am going to hang on to my CR vote for a while and see how that goes.

03-01-2011, 01:49 PM	#1052
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	FYI, this is why I hate the cunning wolf role. It totally devalues the seer. It really doesn't help to know that he's not Wolf X or Wolf Y, oh but he still could be Wolf Z.

03-01-2011, 01:55 PM	#1053
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	There is, but no reason to make that vote at this point.

03-01-2011, 02:12 PM	#1054
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	Today is super busy for me and I don't have much to go on. Going to try and check out things a bit later but may not be able to. I also think I am likely dead tonight with the seer now being gone.

03-01-2011, 02:22 PM	#1055
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	I have to keep asking myself why kill DV? Did he give something away in his posts? Is his partner lying about something? DV is a good player, but I find it hard to think it was a coincidence they got the seer so easily. VOTE Bholly

03-01-2011, 02:22 PM	#1056
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	vote bholly

03-01-2011, 02:27 PM	#1057
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	Could be, Lathum. But in looking back through Darth's votes I thought he did drop a few hints that might have put the wolves on his trail. That said, even if Bhlloy is a villager, finding out for sure does clear things up for us, so it's not a bad vote. I can't figure out where to go, I haven't found anything to rest my vote on, and I have to go very soon. grrr.

03-01-2011, 02:33 PM	#1058
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	In the same category of people casting votes Day 1, once Mauboy looked to be the lead vote getter, for other targets we have Hoopsguy, Danny, Zinto, NTN, Pass, Chief. This is one spot in the day's votes where I would expect to see a wolf try to push another canddiate. Some of these guys have moves elsewhere that makes them look a bit better (Danny, NTN, Chief). So I think I may choose from Hoops, Zinto or Pass.

03-01-2011, 02:35 PM	#1059
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	I'm back around. Somebody already said but Mauboy isn't my teammate. My vote for him on Day 1 was purely because of his bizarre couple of posts and I didn't take it off because I wasn't around after the MartinD reveal. I'll probably head to bed in a bit because I'm jetlagged as hell, I don't really know who to vote for either. I'd still like to hear a better explanation from Danny why he voted with Mauboy for CF (who ended up the first NK the next evening) on day 1 other than "he was just someone who was in the thread at the time". That doesn't really fly for me. But I don't think he's a wolf either, it's just something that seems strange.

03-01-2011, 02:37 PM	#1060
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	Yes, I also don't understand your switch off of NTN after Mauboy's reveal, Danny.

03-01-2011, 02:42 PM	#1061
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	I'm going to vote Zinto. Mostly because he's on that list, and is quiet enough and new enough that he could continue slipping under the radar. Better to put a fire under him now. I'll be out for a while unfortunately, hopefully back before deadline. VOTE ZINTO

03-01-2011, 03:14 PM	#1066
PackerFanatic Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	Oh snap...a day kill for the wolves?

03-01-2011, 03:17 PM	#1068
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Well, I guess at the start of the game I would have taken 2 wolves for the seer + bodyguard, but still tough to lose both of those roles this early in the game. I don't see any wolf roles that should have been able to do this ... hidden role, some kind of reward for a race, anyone have thoughts on this?

03-01-2011, 03:20 PM	#1071
PackerFanatic Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	At this stage of the game, having 5 votes on 5 different people is certainly not helping things, so if ntn doesn't get more of a push, I will gladly move my vote (probably to bhlloy at this point, based on what Lathum said earlier) I haven't played in as many games as others, but I don't recall ever seeing something like this.

03-01-2011, 03:22 PM	#1073
PackerFanatic Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	Frame Lathum for what, GE?

03-01-2011, 03:24 PM	#1075
Zinto College Starter Join Date: Jan 2011	I agree that we should lay off bhlloy today because it seems like this is a move to draw interest on to him.

03-01-2011, 03:25 PM	#1076
JAG Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: St. Paul, MN	Well that sucks. I don't remember reading any role info that could do that.

03-01-2011, 03:26 PM	#1077
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	WTF! a 1:10 PM kill? WTF!

03-01-2011, 03:31 PM	#1079
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	Just throwing it out there... if this was a reward for winning a race then that's a pretty short list of candidates... This is what EF has put up there, which lends credibility to that theory (for me at least 9) Lathum - Promotion Specialist (day four "unblockable" unlocked bonus) Leg 1 was two confirmed villagers (Jackal and Lathum) Leg 2 was JAG and McKerney, who are two guys I haven't seen a lot of discussion on Leg 3 is CR and hoopsguy Anybody see anything interesting in there?

03-01-2011, 03:33 PM	#1080
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	good points JAG - but I don't see any reason it couldn't be a wolf only unlockable. It's either that or it's a wolf hidden role, doesn't seem like one is more unbalancing than the other.

03-01-2011, 03:36 PM	#1081
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	Well out of the remaining players no one has been cleared absolutely but several people I think are mostly cleared and therefore I trust. trust through actions: Saldana trust through "scan" story: Bhlloy, GoldenEagle - I believe this. NO reason to doubt it at this point. trust through posts and talk: Autumn - I think he's done the most at trying to accuse wolves as wolves and villagers as villagers Getting weirdness from: Danny - nothing he's said this game really makes any sense and his actions have been questionable. With the exception that today he said "Don't vote GE". THAT makes sense and feels villagery. hoops - he's still here. Not getting a lot of negative vibes from others altho there are a LOT of quiet people, some who are new (cougarfreak), some who are old (JAG, CR, ntn) and just general chiming in of safe one-liners. Safe one-liners that seem forced are often wolfy tho.

03-01-2011, 03:43 PM	#1084
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	Yeah that might make more sense with the phrase "unblockable" thinking about it. Would explain why the wolves weren't stressed about getting rid of Lathum day 2 like we were all expecting them to do.

03-01-2011, 03:49 PM	#1086
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	Maybe I'm just used to you having more I hadn't really noticed you were talking much, at least these last couple days.

03-01-2011, 03:57 PM	#1091
GoldenEagle Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Little Rock, AR	VOTE NTNDEACON I think this vote gives us the most information. 50/50 shot at nailing a wolf. __________________ Xbox 360 Gamer Tag: GoldenEagle014

03-01-2011, 03:59 PM	#1092
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	Alright, I'm heading out for the night. Unless anybody has a better option I'm going to go with Zinto by default as I don't see anybody else with votes that I remotely like as a wolf Vote Zinto

03-01-2011, 04:02 PM	#1096
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	I was thinking ntn, but my problem with ntn is that he was the big run that took the heat of Mauboy on day 1. I don't see why the wolves take it off mauboy to put it on another one of their own.

03-01-2011, 04:09 PM	#1100
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	Lathum, can you explain why you think the wolves would kill DV is they knew he scanned the cunning?

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