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Old 05-12-2010, 10:04 AM   #1
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Fantasy Football 2010 question

I just got offered Reggie Bush and Santonio Holmes for DeAngelo Williams..Should I bite?

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Old 05-12-2010, 10:29 AM   #2
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A situational RB and WR suspended for the first 4 games for Williams? ugh.. pass. Unless there are other reasons due to the point system (PPR, Return Yardage, etc).
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Old 05-12-2010, 10:33 AM   #3
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well, the sad thing is he would greatly improve on the Wr's I have now. except for 1

Hester
Bess
Burton
Crabtree
Moss,Santana
Robiskie
Jackson,Chad
Jenkins
Jones,Matt
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Old 05-12-2010, 10:44 AM   #4
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Damn man.. did you try to assemble a crop of WR's that poor? If so, you did a good job.

You won't be able to use him for 25% of the season and not to mention coming into a new system and being rusty so, you are looking at a player maybe hitting their stride around week 8. Seems if you want to trade Williams for a WR, you could do it at week 1 and get the same type of value.

What receivers do you feel will be available at the draft?
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Old 05-12-2010, 11:01 AM   #5
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Our draft is in progress....I had my first pick in round 4..at the ass-end..lol got me a LB//the last decent one. Novarro Bowman...I might get lucky with some backup/Sp type receivers..... starting round 5 soon

2 years ago I had good receivers including the real Moss.....But I had no rb's..My best was Benson and we all know how he was 2 yrs ago.

Now I have no receivers but decent backs
Williams,Benson, Mcfadden and the pothead Williams

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Old 05-12-2010, 11:09 AM   #6
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You're drafting now?

WTF?
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Old 05-12-2010, 11:10 AM   #7
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we always draft about 2 weeks after the real draft.....This is a career IDP league
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Old 05-12-2010, 11:18 AM   #8
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Now I have no receivers but decent backs
Williams,Benson, Mcfadden and the pothead Williams

How many teams are in the league??

Trading D Williams for Holmes seems to be just solving one problem to create another. I would not feel comfortable having Benson/Mcfadden and Williams as my 3 RBs.
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Old 05-12-2010, 11:24 AM   #9
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16 teams.....
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Old 05-12-2010, 11:31 AM   #10
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i'd still pass.
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Old 05-12-2010, 11:44 AM   #11
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When I get home from work I'll pop my team up here so you can get a few good guffaws in..But I did make the playoffs and 1st in my division last year
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Old 05-12-2010, 01:35 PM   #12
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What do you have for starters on offense? 2 RB, 2 WR and a TE, 2,2,1 and a flex, 2RB, 3WR, TE, etc?

I think Crabtree will continue his good play and give you one solid option. After that you are lacking.

I'd keep DeAngelo Williams and try to move Darren McFadden. Do you have anyone in your league that would still be impressed by his high draft position? Maybe you can get a good young WR back in return, or alternatively, package McFadden with one of your current receivers to upgrade at WR.
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Old 05-12-2010, 05:29 PM   #13
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Have fun chuckling

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Brohm, Brian BUF QB
Cassel, Matt KCC QB
Croyle, Brodie KCC QB
Edwards, Trent BUF QB
Fitzpatrick, Ryan BUF QB
Losman, J.P. OAK QB
White, Pat MIA QB
Benson, Cedric CIN RB
Hester, Jacob SDC RB
Hillis, Peyton CLE RB
Jennings, Chris CLE RB
McFadden, Darren OAK RB
Williams, DeAngelo CAR RB
Williams, Ricky MIA RB
Bess, Davone MIA WR
Burton, Keenan STL WR
Crabtree, Michael SFO WR
Hester, Devin CHI WR
Jackson, Chad BUF WR
Jenkins, Michael ATL WR
Jones, Matt CIN WR
Moss, Santana WAS WR
Robiskie, Brian CLE WR
Coffman, Chase CIN TE
Fells, Daniel STL TE
McMichael, Randy STL TE
Shockey, Jeremy NOS TE
Hartley, Garrett NOS PK
Janikowski, Sebastian OAK PK
Nedney, Joe SFO PK
Johnson, Spencer BUF DT
Anderson, Mark CHI DE
Avril, Cliff DET DE
Brayton, Tyler CAR DE
Edwards, Dwan BUF DE
Ellis, Shaun NYJ DE
Ford, Jacob TEN DE
Bowman, Navorro SFO LB (R)
Dansby, Karlos MIA LB
Diles, Zach HOU LB
Gholston, Vernon NYJ LB
Posluszny, Paul BUF LB
Rivers, Keith CIN LB
Taylor, Jason NYJ LB (P)
Thomas, Bryan NYJ LB
Wake, Cameron MIA LB
Finnegan, Cortland TEN CB
McGee, Terrence BUF CB
Woodson, Charles GBP CB
Brown, Mike KCC S
Chung, Patrick NEP S
Manning, Danieal CHI S
Wilson, George BUF S

1 qb
1-2 rb
3-4 wr
1-2 te
1 pk
3-4 dl
3-4 lb
3-4 db

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Old 05-12-2010, 06:26 PM   #14
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hell no, don't make that trade

Hester will be fine this year (read fine, not greatness but decentness)
Crabtree also (Crabtree could even explode)
Santana Moss benefits quite a bit from Mcnabb
who knows what Bess does, but it won't be horrible (prob not good, but who knows if bess can get on the field, he should see some looks cause everyone will concentrate on Marshall)
and Michael Jenkins is solid/ fine also

you honestly will be fine for WRs and Holmes wont help nearly as much as you think
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Old 05-12-2010, 06:27 PM   #15
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If anything do what whoever said above and ditch Darren Mcfadden
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Old 05-12-2010, 06:28 PM   #16
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triple dola , and Burton showed flashes as did Robiskie. Stay pat for now , at least wait till mid pre season / end pre season


for the sake of things lets say Holmes matches last season minus the 4 games

that equals 59 catches and 936 yards with around 4 tds? I think Jenkins, Moss, Crabtree and Hester all can or could do this give or take a fewish catches/yards. They may not get there, but I don't think its worth giving up D'angelo
also Bush isnt someone to lean on all season and imho isn't worth it at all.

BTW I'm pretty sure Levi Brown is most likely available in your league /snickers and runs away...
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Old 05-12-2010, 06:50 PM   #17
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levi brown will be picked up by me with my 6th rounder..lol

From what I hear the raiders might use Mcfadden out of the backfield more, and with a better sort of qb than last year he might actually do ok...
Yeah, I think i'll stay put
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Old 05-12-2010, 07:47 PM   #18
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I like Bush more than McFadden. It will be interesting to see whether they use him in a Brandon Jacobs type 1st/2nd down role and McFadden as a change of pace or vice versa.

I would still use McFadden's high draft status and potential upside to your advantage though and try and get a good young WR with upside. But if McFadden's value is low across your league and most owners are down on him, hold on.
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Old 05-13-2010, 02:11 AM   #19
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I agree with much of what has been said. Dont trade premium RBs for WRs(unless they are Fitz or Andre Johnson) and 3rd down backs. Wrs are a dime a dozen unless you can get one of the 2-3 at the head of the class.
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Old 05-13-2010, 10:24 AM   #20
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I agree with much of what has been said. Dont trade premium RBs for WRs(unless they are Fitz or Andre Johnson) and 3rd down backs. Wrs are a dime a dozen unless you can get one of the 2-3 at the head of the class.

This sounds like a league where you get to keep all players for as long as you want so upper end WRs (guys like Colston and Marshall for example) do carry a more value in a league like this because they usually have more years of top 15 production. Still that original trade was ridiculous.
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Old 05-13-2010, 10:33 AM   #21
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If anything do what whoever said above and ditch Darren Mcfadden

In a league as deep as he is in, no.
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Old 05-13-2010, 10:33 AM   #22
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Also, for anyone who might be interested in trying out a league like this:

I commish a free 12-team 0.5 PPR dynasty/career league on fleaflicker.com. The roster size is 24 players and you get to keep all 24 players if you want. The league is pretty laid back in terms of offering trades, but everyone who is returning is very good about not starting injured players or players on bye weeks. The league is composed primarily of people from footballguys.com.

I'm looking for one owner to participate in a 3-team dispersal draft of players and rookie draft picks from the three teams that aren't returning. Free agents are also available to be drafted.

I will use myfantasyleague.com for the dispersal and rookie drafts. Each will have a 6 hour time limit per pick. I'd like to start the dispersal draft early next week.

I've posted most of the details at

hxxp://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=531809

If interested, PM me.

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Old 05-13-2010, 10:20 PM   #23
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I know you're a fellow WNYer, but:

The ENTIRE Buffalo QB corps!?!?

The KC corps and JP Losman really does add to the comedy factor.
Not to get chuckles at your expense....
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Old 05-14-2010, 07:58 AM   #24
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I know you're a fellow WNYer, but:

The ENTIRE Buffalo QB corps!?!?

The KC corps and JP Losman really does add to the comedy factor.
Not to get chuckles at your expense....


Its just the way it fell..Had losman so I figured I need his backup so got Edwards..Then Losman left so I went and got Fitzpatrick(trade for 5th rounder) as insurance to Edwards..Broehm was a last week of 2009 waiver afterthought just in case he might end up playing one day. If you notice we have 16 teams so getting a stud qb as a starter or even backup is hard to do because there arent 16 stud qbs available. My Qbs did get me a 10-4 record so I cant complain too much. We get to keep 46 players active with a 4 man taxi so taking a chance on a broehm is worth it.

Cassell was a trade I made to "improve" my qb corps..lol....Now at least I have a viable qb for my bye week or injury..No more Derek Anderson/Pat White leading the team....

And why not chuckle? I do......

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