NFL Week 5 - Page 6

sabotai · 10-09-2005, 05:20 PM

Dallas takes a 30-3 lead over the Eagles. I know the Eagles came back last week, but this is about twice as big of a lead they have to overcome.

bhlloy · 10-09-2005, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by cthomer5000

Bidding war. they have serious o-line issues, and really need to adress that first. If you can trade down for 2 1st rounders, you spend them both on lineman.

What he said... Carr can be at least a serviceable NFL QB, he's only looked really bad when he gets sacked 6-7 times a game and has to force passes just to get them off in time. Somebody will want Leinart (or Young even if he keeps his season on track) bad enough that they can probably get a real nice package of picks for the #1

miami_fan · 10-09-2005, 05:24 PM

How long until they pull McNabb?

ISiddiqui · 10-09-2005, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by SkyDog

This loss doesn't bother me one bit, fyi.

Especially if every other team in the NFC South loses... COME ON ARIZONA!

ISiddiqui · 10-09-2005, 05:31 PM

What's up with Peyton? 169 yards and 2 INTs, no TDs.

sabotai · 10-09-2005, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by miami_fan

How long until they pull McNabb?

Probably now. 3rd Quarter is just about over. Of course, just as I type that, Philly intercepts the ball and takes it back for a TD. Still, McNabb is hurt and they are still down 20 points with a minute left in the 3rd.

DaddyTorgo · 10-09-2005, 05:37 PM

get the ball to T.O. get the ball to T.O. !!!!!

for the love of my fantasy team!!!

miami_fan · 10-09-2005, 05:42 PM

And here I was wondering when TO was going to explode on the sidelines. Should have known it would have been Keyshawn

Buccaneer · 10-09-2005, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

Especially if every other team in the NFC South loses... COME ON ARIZONA!

I know, I really wish Tampa had won.

ISiddiqui · 10-09-2005, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Buccaneer

I know, I really wish Tampa had won.

You lost to the Vinnie led Jets! HAW HAW!

Greyroofoo · 10-09-2005, 05:56 PM

Gosh, facing the Colts D on your first start, you really gotta feel for Alex Smith

timmynausea · 10-09-2005, 06:11 PM

Is Tatum Bell finally taking over for Anderson? They are both on my fantasy team.

RendeR · 10-09-2005, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Neuqua

Who was considered the better prospect in college, Leinart or Palmer?

According to the NFL Live and Playbook guys: Palmer was much more complete package and had a cooler demeonor under pressure.

Thomkal · 10-09-2005, 06:39 PM

Ugh. Why on 4th and 5 late in the game would you throw down the field to the endzone and a jump ball? Mccown threw for near 400 yards again, but really showed some nerves late in the game. Cards really should have won that game.

Buccaneer · 10-09-2005, 06:45 PM

Shit. Redskins 2-pt conversion failed after driving 95 yards for a score.

TroyF · 10-09-2005, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Buccaneer

Shit. Redskins 2-pt conversion failed after driving 95 yards for a score.

You didn't think they'd luck into a win 4 weeks in a row, did you?

The Redskins of this year really remind me a lot of last years Broncos. They can do some things on offense to frustrate you, but they are inconsistent as hell and make mistakes. The defense is just solid. You look up at the end of the game and say "wow, look at that, 220 total yards, only a td or two given up." Then you realize they didn't have a single game changing play in the game. No sacks, no forced turnovers, no stuffs for four yard losses.

That type of defense can work if you have an offense that can put points on the board. But when you have an offense like Denver or Washington, you need your D to give you a short field once in awhile. The Broncos have forced turnovers this year and have put pressure on the QB. (though today the pressure only came in spurts, it did come, it never came for Washington)

If the turnovers and the pressure stops, so will the W's. And for the Skins, I'm not sure they can win unless their defense starts to make things happen.

TroyF · 10-09-2005, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Neuqua

Who was considered the better prospect in college, Leinart or Palmer?

By the NFL scouts? Leinhart. Right now he's considered the best QB prospect to come down the pike sinse Peyton Manning left school. There are almost zero questions about him. Strong arm, pro style offense, big game pedigree, consistent both years as a starter. . .

That could always change as the microscope gets shown on him this year, but it isn't likely.

Buccaneer · 10-09-2005, 07:09 PM

If Wash's D put no pressure on Plummer, how the hell did he only come up with 9 completions and 92 yards passing?

TroyF · 10-09-2005, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Buccaneer

If Wash's D put no pressure on Plummer, how the hell did he only come up with 9 completions and 92 yards passing?

Simple, he sucks.

Tell me one time when Plummer hit the deck on a passing play Buc. He simply wasn't hit. The coverage was great (the CB's play on Lelie late in the game was incredible).

But Plummer was rarely even made to move on a pocket pass. He never once had to scramble (his only runs were on rollouts when everyone was covered and he took off) He never once had his arm hit, a pass tipped at the line, or anything like that.

Again, the Redskins D is very good, they just don't make plays. Four games played now, 4 turnovers forced and 4 sacks. That's against the Bears rookie QB making his first start, the Cowboys, the turnover/sack prone Seahawks and Denver.

TazFTW · 10-09-2005, 07:34 PM

# of teams in the NFC East with a record over .500: 4
# of teams in the rest of the NFC with a record over .500: 4

Can we eliminate the playoff spots for the NFC North and West winners and just have the entire NFC East, the winner of NFC South and a wildcard in the playoffs?

Honolulu_Blue · 10-09-2005, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by TazFTW

# of teams in the NFC East with a record over .500: 4
# of teams in the rest of the NFC with a record over .500: 4

Can we eliminate the playoff spots for the NFC North and West winners and just have the entire NFC East, the winner of NFC South and a wildcard in the playoffs?

No.

The Lions are in sole possession of first place in the NFC North. Playoffs, baybee!!!!

Honolulu_Blue · 10-09-2005, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Buccaneer

If Wash's D put no pressure on Plummer, how the hell did he only come up with 9 completions and 92 yards passing?

Wow. Those are Harrington-like numbers there.

TroyF · 10-09-2005, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

Wow. Those are Harrington-like numbers there.

Yeah, they were, but you ahve to factor in a few things there:

1) It was freezing rain all game. Plummer plays horribly in the rain/snow and always has.

2) Washington has a solid D, even if they don't make enough game changing plays.

3) The Broncos played in horrible field possession for much of the second half, being backed up inside the twenty multiple times.

Still, an ugly performence. The good thing is he didn't make the killer mistake (or any mistake for that matter) No fumbles, no INT's. If he's going to suck, it's nice when he sucks without turning the ball over. At least we have a chance to win if he can do that.

Neuqua · 10-09-2005, 08:49 PM

The more I watch of Carson Palmer/Chad Johnson, the more I like.

miami_fan · 10-09-2005, 09:06 PM

That was a hell of a kick

cthomer5000 · 10-09-2005, 10:43 PM

Cincy's TE just alligator-armed a pass pretty badly just now.

Greyroofoo · 10-09-2005, 10:50 PM

Colts only unbeaten team, SWEET!!!!!!!!!!!!!

RendeR · 10-09-2005, 10:54 PM

*sigh* tough game to lose, this game like many this weekend were horribly officiated. The lack of holding calls on boths sides of the ball was apalling.

Congrats Jags, you made the plays you had to.

Cincinnati really has to figure out how to play run defense. it still sucks. Taylor won that game for the jags, period. Leftwich was awful. but when you rip off 20 yard runs regularly, the passing game really isn't all that important.

4-1 still a damned good record. Do we still have more wins than all but what? 5-6 teams in the NFC? Gotta get ready for the Division games coming up. Big stuff the next few weeks.

stevew · 10-09-2005, 11:30 PM

Who Dey?

Northwood_DK · 10-10-2005, 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by cthomer5000

Cincy's TE just alligator-armed a pass pretty badly just now.

Sorry that’s and expression I have never heard before. Can some one please explain for the European what “alligator-armed” is all about?

Eaglesfan27 · 10-10-2005, 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Northwood_DK

Sorry that’s and expression I have never heard before. Can some one please explain for the European what “alligator-armed” is all about?

It's a phrase to indicate that the player didn't really extend his arms to try to catch the ball because he was too worried about protecting himself from a big hit.

Eaglesfan27 · 10-10-2005, 01:37 AM

Dola -

Ricky Watters back when he was with Philly was infamous for repeatedly doing this.

cthomer5000 · 10-10-2005, 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Northwood_DK

Sorry that’s and expression I have never heard before. Can some one please explain for the European what “alligator-armed” is all about?

EaglesFan prettymuch nailed it. Alligators have tiny little arms, so it's slang for when a guy doesn't extend his arms out, because he knows he might be about to take a hit.

Schoebel alligator-armed a totally catchable ball that would have gone for about a 15 yard gain. Next play Palmer is hit and fumbles, Jags recover, game over. Makes you wonder what might have happened.

Ragone · 10-10-2005, 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by TroyF

Oh, and this just in. . . the Texans are a HORRIBLE football team. If they get the #1 pick, I could see them taking Leinhart and trading Carr. Capers may as well get the resume printed up there is no way in hell he coaches this team next year.

You know.. still can't blame carr.. he's on a pace to be sacked 111 times.. what good is picking leinart gonna do.. sure he's made some terrible reads/decisions.. but most of them are out of self preservation

st.cronin · 10-10-2005, 08:55 AM

It wasn't his best game but I was REALLY impressed with Palmer's performance. There were multiple Jaguars in the backfield on every play just about, but his demeanor was real sharp; he always seemed to know what was going on.

Radii · 10-10-2005, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

Especially if every other team in the NFC South loses... COME ON ARIZONA!

Whew, go Panthers. I still can't figure out if Carolina is a good team or not. Detroit next week, then Minnesota before a big game against Tampa. If Harrington throws for 300+ next week then I know Carolina is in big trouble.

Wolfpack · 10-10-2005, 12:23 PM

Yep, the Cats are unfortunately playing to their level of opposition, which likely means another close game next week in Detroit.

BTW, that opening day loss to New Orleans is going to loom larger and larger. I heard on the radio coming back from lunch that Deuce's done for the hear after tearing up his knee, which means the Saints are pretty much toast now.

korme · 10-10-2005, 02:00 PM

McAllister out for the year, confirmed.

DaddyTorgo · 10-10-2005, 02:03 PM

just heard this myself on the radio. big blow for whatever hopes the saints had of salvaging the season.

Raiders Army · 10-10-2005, 04:30 PM

Not to be opportunistic, but should I pick up Aaron Stecker or Antwain Smith?

DaddyTorgo · 10-10-2005, 04:30 PM

twain i'd think

Solecismic · 10-10-2005, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Shorty3281

McAllister out for the year, confirmed.

One of the sports sites I visit had the headline, "New Orleans Drops a Deuce" for a few minutes. They thought better of it.

cthomer5000 · 10-10-2005, 08:45 PM

The Chargers are wearing their throwback unis tonight. It's amazing how refreshing a white helmet is, since they're pretty rare. White pants are even more rare these days, I absolutely hate the dark-on-dark trend that almost every team in the league seems to have adopted.

Fonzie · 10-10-2005, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by cthomer5000

The Chargers are wearing their throwback unis tonight. It's amazing how refreshing a white helmet is, since they're pretty rare. White pants are even more rare these days, I absolutely hate the dark-on-dark trend that almost every team in the league seems to have adopted.

Agreed. Good stuff, those uniforms.

cthomer5000 · 10-10-2005, 09:18 PM

Roethlisberger doesn't get enough credit for his mobility. He has unbelivable running instincts, which is way more important than flat-out speed. I'm impressed every time I see him play.

st.cronin · 10-10-2005, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by cthomer5000

Roethlisberger doesn't get enough credit for his mobility. He has unbelivable running instincts, which is way more important than flat-out speed. I'm impressed every time I see him play.

More than once I've seen linebackers just bounce off him. He's a beast.

ISiddiqui · 10-10-2005, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Fonzie

Agreed. Good stuff, those uniforms.

It may be oversaid by analysts, but they really ARE the best uniforms in the NFL.

miami_fan · 10-10-2005, 09:25 PM

Ahhh the Chargers are following the examples of the Ravens and the Dolphins I see

stevew · 10-10-2005, 09:27 PM

Chargers are just imploding on penalties. Nice to see Bettis getting some work.

MikeVic · 10-10-2005, 10:05 PM

Nice punt return San Diego.

edit: Bah. "unmolested." What kind of call was that. I agree with Madden. Dumb rule.

10-09-2005, 05:31 PM	#255
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10-09-2005, 08:49 PM	#274
Neuqua Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago, Ill	The more I watch of Carson Palmer/Chad Johnson, the more I like. __________________ Our Deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us. We ask ourselves, 'Who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous, talented, fabulous?' Actually, who are you not to be?

10-09-2005, 10:54 PM	#278
RendeR Coordinator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Buffalo, NY	sigh tough game to lose, this game like many this weekend were horribly officiated. The lack of holding calls on boths sides of the ball was apalling. Congrats Jags, you made the plays you had to. Cincinnati really has to figure out how to play run defense. it still sucks. Taylor won that game for the jags, period. Leftwich was awful. but when you rip off 20 yard runs regularly, the passing game really isn't all that important. 4-1 still a damned good record. Do we still have more wins than all but what? 5-6 teams in the NFC? Gotta get ready for the Division games coming up. Big stuff the next few weeks. __________________ http://wotlabs.net/s...8/signature.png http://wotlabs.net/sig_dark/na/banichi18/signature.png

10-10-2005, 01:37 AM	#282
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	Dola - Ricky Watters back when he was with Philly was infamous for repeatedly doing this. __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen.

10-10-2005, 10:05 PM	#300
MikeVic Head Coach Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Hometown of Canada	Nice punt return San Diego. edit: Bah. "unmolested." What kind of call was that. I agree with Madden. Dumb rule. Last edited by MikeVic : 10-10-2005 at 10:06 PM.

10-09-2005, 05:20 PM	#251
sabotai General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Satellite of Love	Dallas takes a 30-3 lead over the Eagles. I know the Eagles came back last week, but this is about twice as big of a lead they have to overcome.

10-09-2005, 05:24 PM	#253
miami_fan Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Land O Lakes FL	How long until they pull McNabb?

10-09-2005, 05:37 PM	#257
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	get the ball to T.O. get the ball to T.O. !!!!! for the love of my fantasy team!!!

10-09-2005, 05:42 PM	#258
miami_fan Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Land O Lakes FL	And here I was wondering when TO was going to explode on the sidelines. Should have known it would have been Keyshawn

10-09-2005, 05:56 PM	#261
Greyroofoo Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Alabama	Gosh, facing the Colts D on your first start, you really gotta feel for Alex Smith

10-09-2005, 06:11 PM	#262
timmynausea College Starter Join Date: Dec 2002	Is Tatum Bell finally taking over for Anderson? They are both on my fantasy team.

10-09-2005, 06:39 PM	#264
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	Ugh. Why on 4th and 5 late in the game would you throw down the field to the endzone and a jump ball? Mccown threw for near 400 yards again, but really showed some nerves late in the game. Cards really should have won that game.

10-09-2005, 06:45 PM	#265
Buccaneer Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Colorado	Shit. Redskins 2-pt conversion failed after driving 95 yards for a score.

10-09-2005, 07:09 PM	#268
Buccaneer Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Colorado	If Wash's D put no pressure on Plummer, how the hell did he only come up with 9 completions and 92 yards passing?

10-09-2005, 07:34 PM	#270
TazFTW Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Honolulu, HI	# of teams in the NFC East with a record over .500: 4 # of teams in the rest of the NFC with a record over .500: 4 Can we eliminate the playoff spots for the NFC North and West winners and just have the entire NFC East, the winner of NFC South and a wildcard in the playoffs?

10-09-2005, 09:06 PM	#275
miami_fan Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Land O Lakes FL	That was a hell of a kick

10-09-2005, 10:50 PM	#277
Greyroofoo Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Alabama	Colts only unbeaten team, SWEET!!!!!!!!!!!!!

10-09-2005, 11:30 PM	#279
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Who Dey?

10-10-2005, 08:55 AM	#285
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	It wasn't his best game but I was REALLY impressed with Palmer's performance. There were multiple Jaguars in the backfield on every play just about, but his demeanor was real sharp; he always seemed to know what was going on.

10-10-2005, 12:23 PM	#287
Wolfpack Pro Rookie Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Raleigh, NC	Yep, the Cats are unfortunately playing to their level of opposition, which likely means another close game next week in Detroit. BTW, that opening day loss to New Orleans is going to loom larger and larger. I heard on the radio coming back from lunch that Deuce's done for the hear after tearing up his knee, which means the Saints are pretty much toast now.

10-10-2005, 02:00 PM	#288
korme Go Reds Join Date: May 2001 Location: Bloodbuzz Ohio	McAllister out for the year, confirmed.

10-10-2005, 02:03 PM	#289
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	just heard this myself on the radio. big blow for whatever hopes the saints had of salvaging the season.

10-10-2005, 04:30 PM	#290
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	Not to be opportunistic, but should I pick up Aaron Stecker or Antwain Smith?

10-10-2005, 04:30 PM	#291
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	twain i'd think

10-10-2005, 09:25 PM	#298
miami_fan Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Land O Lakes FL	Ahhh the Chargers are following the examples of the Ravens and the Dolphins I see

10-10-2005, 09:27 PM	#299
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Chargers are just imploding on penalties. Nice to see Bettis getting some work.

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