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Old 01-04-2007, 04:42 PM   #1
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Well it finally happened ...
The ACC champ went undefeated
The Big Ten champ went undefeated
The Big 12 champ went undefeated
The Big East champ went undefeated
The Pac 10 champ went undefeated
The SEC champ went undefeated


The BCS was in shambles ... major controversy over who played for the BCS Championship. The public got what it wanted ...

A 16 Team Playoff for the Championship!

But, first the landscape of NCAA Football needed to change. The "powers that be" stated that there must be 10 conferences each consisting of 12 teams. Each conference will have a Conference Championship game. The winner of each Conferene Championship game will automatically get a seed in the BCS Championship Playoff Bracket. The remaining 6 seeds will go to the highest ranking teams left over in the BCS Standings.

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I am not too sure how to realign the conferences. I am looking to the board for some suggestions. On one hand I would like to realign to offer more regional rivalries and on the other hand I would like to keep with some of the traditional conference setups.

Please give me some of your ideas of realigning under the rules I stated.

Thanks in advance.

How things are currently:
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TEAMS BY CONFERENCE Big Ten (11) ACC (12) Big 12 (12) ---------- ---------- ---------- Illinois Boston College Baylor Indiana Clemson Colorado Iowa Duke Iowa State Michigan Florida State Kansas Michigan State Georgia Tech Kansas State Minnesota Maryland Missouri Northwestern Miami (Fla.) Nebraska Ohio State North Carolina Oklahoma Penn State North Carolina State Oklahoma State Purdue Virginia Texas Wisconsin Virginia Tech Texas A&M Wake Forest Texas Tech Conference USA (12) Mid-American (12) SEC (12) ---------- ---------- ---------- Central Florida Akron Alabama East Carolina Ball State Arkansas Houston Bowling Green Auburn Marshall Buffalo Florida Memphis Central Michigan Georgia Rice Eastern Michigan Kentucky Southern Methodist Kent State LSU Southern Mississippi Miami (Ohio) Mississippi Texas-El Paso Northern Illinois Mississippi State Tulane Ohio South Carolina Tulsa Toledo Tennessee UAB Western Michigan Vanderbilt Big East (8) Pac-10 (10) Mountain West (9) ---------- ----------- ---------- Cincinnati Arizona Air Force Connecticut Arizona State Brigham Young Louisville California Colorado State Pittsburgh Oregon New Mexico Rutgers Oregon State San Diego State South Florida Southern California TCU Syracuse Stanford UNLV West Virginia UCLA Utah Washington Wyoming Washington State WAC (9) ---------- Sun Belt (8) Boise State I-A Independents (4) ---------- Fresno State ---------- Arkansas State Hawaii Army Florida Atlantic Idaho Navy Florida International Louisiana Tech Notre Dame La.-Lafayette Nevada Temple Louisiana-Monroe New Mexico State Middle Tennessee San Jose State North Texas Utah State Troy
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Old 01-04-2007, 10:37 PM   #2
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Hmm...well, there's only 119 I-A teams, so where's #120 coming from? As to realignment, basically keep the 12-team leagues intact. Move all the independents into the Big East (may or may not include ND, depending on whether you'd want them in the Big 10 instead). Move BYU and Utah into the Pac-10 as has long been suggested to make 12 there. Move Boise, Fresno, San Jose State, Hawaii, and Nevada into the MWC (call it the WAC again for history's sake), then add the leftover WAC teams to the Sun Belt for a final 12-team league. This will mean that whoever is team #120 ends up in either the Big Ten or Big East depending on where you want ND to be. (Probably Big East simply because I can't see the Big 10 taking on any sort of new I-A school and they'd only expand for ND, though there's always been speculation that Missouri could move into the B10 and Arkansas moves to the B12 to rejoin its old SWC rivals in Texas, but then who'd move into the SEC?)
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Old 01-05-2007, 08:18 AM   #3
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Wolfpack ... good point. I forgot to mention the #120th team.
I was going to promote a Div 1-AA team up to play with the big boys.

I like your proposal. Since I am Big 10 fan, I will surely put ND in there. One thought I have been having is moving Penn State back to the Big East and bringing Iowa State or Missouri into the Big 10 (then moving Colorado State into the Big 12).

I am going to try and keep the existing names for the conferences and try to keep it geographically correct. For example, I don't want Fresno State in the Big East. Nor do I want Temple in the WAC. I will use Conference USA as my "wildcard" conference. Can stretch all over the US without geographic consequences.

I already came up with one realignment that moved a lot of teams around and is geographically correct. I will post that later today. I am working on another that is more along the lines of what you were suggesting (minimal conference movement in the bigger conferences).
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Old 01-05-2007, 01:04 PM   #4
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Proposal #1 - Geographically More Correct
Quote:
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Atlantic Coastal
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Clemson
Duke
East Carolina
Florida State
Georgia Tech
Miami (Fla.)
North Carolina
North Carolina State
South Carolina
Virginia
Virginia Tech
Wake Forest

NOTES: Moved Boston College & Maryland to the Big East. Brought
in East Carolina from Conference USA & South Carlina from SEC.

----------
Big Texas
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Baylor
Houston
North Texas
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State
Rice
Southern Methodist
TCU
Texas
Texas A&M
Texas-El Paso
Texas Tech

NOTES: Moved Kansas, Kansas State, Missouri & Nebraska to Conference
USA. Colorado. Moved Iowa State to the Big 10. Added Houston, Rice,
Southern Methodist & Texas-El Paso from Conference USA. Added North
Texas from the Sun Belt. Added TCU from Mountain West. Renamed to
Big Texas.

------------
Southeastern
------------
Alabama
Arkansas
Auburn
Florida
Georgia
Kentucky
LSU
Louisville
Mississippi
Mississippi State
Tennessee
Vanderbilt

NOTES: Moved South Carolina to ACC. Added Louisville from Big East.

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Mid-American
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Akron
Ball State
Bowling Green
Central Michigan
Dayton (Div IAA School)
Eastern Michigan
Kent State
Miami (Ohio)
Northern Illinois
Ohio
Toledo
Western Michigan

NOTES: Moved Buffalo to the Big East. Added Dayton from Div 1-AA.

-----------
Big Midwest
-----------
Illinois
Indiana
Iowa
Iowa State
Michigan
Michigan State
Minnesota
Northwestern
Notre Dame
Ohio State
Purdue
Wisconsin

NOTES: Moved Penn State to the Big East. Added Notre Dame from
Independents & Iowa State from the Big 12. Renamed to Big Midwest.

--------
Big East
--------
Boston College
Buffalo
Cincinnati
Connecticut
Marshall
Maryland
Penn State
Pittsburgh
Rutgers
Syracuse
Temple
West Virginia

NOTES: Removed South Florida to the Sun Belt. Added Boston College &
Maryland from the ACC, Penn State from the Big 10 & Buffalo from the MAC.

--------------
Pacific Twelve
--------------
Arizona
Arizona State
California
Nevada
Oregon
Oregon State
Southern California
Stanford
UCLA
UNLV
Washington
Washington State

NOTES: Added Nevada from WAC & UNLV from Mountain West.

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Mountain West
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Boise State
Brigham Young
Colorado
Colorado State
Idaho
New Mexico
New Mexico State
San Diego State
San Jose State
Utah
Utah State
Wyoming

NOTES: Moved Air force to Conference USA. Moved UNLV to Pac 10. Added
Boise State, Idaho, New Mexico State, San Jose State & Utah State from
WAC.

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Sun Belt
--------
Central Florida
Florida Atlantic
Florida International
La.-Lafayette
Louisiana-Monroe
Louisiana Tech
Middle Tennessee
South Florida
Southern Mississippi
Tulane
Troy
UAB

NOTES: Moved North Texas to Big 12. Added Central Florida, Southern
Mississippi, Tulane & UAB from Conference USA. Added Louisiana Tech from
WAC. Added South Florida from the Big East.

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Conference USA
--------------
Air Force
Arkansas State
Army
Fresno State
Hawaii
Kansas
Kansas State
Memphis
Missouri
Navy
Nebraska
Tulsa

NOTES: This is where "everyone else" ended up. I wanted to get Army, Navy
& Air Force together in the same conference.
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Old 01-05-2007, 01:09 PM   #5
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Proposal #2 - More Realistic (Less moving of teams around from the bigger conferences)

Quote:
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Atlantic Coastal
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Boston College
Clemson
Duke
Florida State
Georgia Tech
Maryland
Miami (Fla.)
North Carolina
North Carolina State
Virginia
Virginia Tech
Wake Forest

NOTES: No change

----------
Big Twelve
----------
Baylor
Colorado
Iowa State
Kansas
Kansas State
Missouri
Nebraska
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State
Texas
Texas A&M
Texas Tech

NOTES: No change

------------
Southeastern
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Alabama
Arkansas
Auburn
Florida
Georgia
Kentucky
LSU
Mississippi
Mississippi State
South Carolina
Tennessee
Vanderbilt

NOTES: No change

------------
Mid-American
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Akron
Ball State
Bowling Green
Buffalo
Central Michigan
Eastern Michigan
Kent State
Miami (Ohio)
Northern Illinois
Ohio
Toledo
Western Michigan

NOTES: No change

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Big Midwest
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Illinois
Indiana
Iowa
Michigan
Michigan State
Minnesota
Northwestern
Notre Dame
Ohio State
Penn State
Purdue
Wisconsin

NOTES: Added Notre Dame from Independents. Change name to
Big Midwest.

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Big East
--------
Cincinnati
Connecticut
East Carolina
Louisville
Marshall
Middle Tennessee
Pittsburgh
Rutgers
Syracuse
Temple
West Virginia
+Div IAA School

NOTES: Removed South Florida. Added East Carolina & Marshall from
Conference USA. Added Middle Tennessee from Sun Belt. Added Div
1-AA School.

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Pacific Twelve
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Arizona
Arizona State
California
Nevada
Oregon
Oregon State
Southern California
Stanford
UCLA
UNLV
Washington
Washington State

NOTES: Added Nevada from WAC & UNLV from Mountain West. Changed
name to Pacific Twelve.

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Conference USA
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Air Force
Army
Hawaii
Houston
Memphis
Navy
Rice
Southern Mississippi
Tulane
Tulsa
UAB
Wyoming

NOTES: Removed Central Florida, East Carolina, Marshall, Southern
Methodist & Texas-El Paso. Added Army & Navy from Independents.
Added Air Force & Wyoming from Mountain West. Added Hawaii from WAC.

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Mountain West
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Boise State
Brigham Young
Colorado State
Fresno State
Idaho
New Mexico
New Mexico State
San Diego State
San Jose State
TCU
Utah
Utah State

NOTES: Added Boise State, Fresno State, Idaho, New MExico State,
San Jose State & Utah State from WAC.

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Sun Belt
--------
Arkansas State
Central Florida
Florida Atlantic
Florida International
La.-Lafayette
Louisiana-Monroe
Louisiana Tech
North Texas
South Florida
Southern Methodist
Texas-El Paso
Troy

NOTES: Removed Middle Tennesee. Added Central Florida, Southern Methodist
& Texas-El Paso from Conference USA. Added Louisiana Tech from WAC.
Added South Florida from the Big East.
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Old 01-05-2007, 02:18 PM   #6
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If you're such a Big Ten fan, why would you want to ruin the conference by adding Notre Dame?

Anyway, I'll be watching.
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Old 01-05-2007, 03:52 PM   #7
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If you're such a Big Ten fan, why would you want to ruin the conference by adding Notre Dame?

Anyway, I'll be watching.


True. But it is the most logical school to step into the Big Ten. Would be nice to see them play a tougher schedule than usual.
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Old 01-05-2007, 09:33 PM   #8
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I personally prefer the 1st option better, that gives teams a different look, and should make for a much more interesting dynasty.
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Old 01-05-2007, 11:46 PM   #9
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Cast my vote for option 1 as well, though I wish it was BYU and Utah in the Pac-10
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Old 01-06-2007, 12:18 AM   #10
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I vote for option 1 also.
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Old 01-06-2007, 11:07 AM   #11
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Thanks for the input guys!
I am leaning towards #1 ... the only thing I am mulling over is the Big Texas conference. Not sure I like it. I might try another realignment trying to keep most of the Big 12 together.
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Old 01-06-2007, 08:09 PM   #12
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Dola.

Proposal #1A
Quote:
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Atlantic Coastal
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Clemson
Duke
East Carolina
Florida State
Georgia Tech
Miami (Fla.)
North Carolina
North Carolina State
South Carolina
Virginia
Virginia Tech
Wake Forest

NOTES: Moved Boston College & Maryland to the Big East. Brought
in East Carolina from Conference USA & South Carlina from SEC.

----------
Big Twelve
----------
Baylor
Colorado
Colorado State
Kansas
Kansas State
Missouri
Nebraska
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State
Texas
Texas A&M
Texas Tech

NOTES: Moved Iowa State to the Big 10. Added Colorado State from the
Mountain West.

------------
Southeastern
------------
Alabama
Arkansas
Auburn
Florida
Georgia
Kentucky
LSU
Louisville
Mississippi
Mississippi State
Tennessee
Vanderbilt

NOTES: Moved South Carolina to ACC. Added Louisville from Big East.

------------
Mid-American
------------
Akron
Ball State
Bowling Green
Central Michigan
Dayton (Div IAA School)
Eastern Michigan
Kent State
Miami (Ohio)
Northern Illinois
Ohio
Toledo
Western Michigan

NOTES: Moved Buffalo to the Big East. Added Dayton from Div 1-AA.

-----------
Big Midwest
-----------
Illinois
Indiana
Iowa
Iowa State
Michigan
Michigan State
Minnesota
Northwestern
Notre Dame
Ohio State
Purdue
Wisconsin

NOTES: Moved Penn State to the Big East. Added Notre Dame from
Independents & Iowa State from the Big 12. Renamed to Big Midwest.

--------
Big East
--------
Boston College
Buffalo
Cincinnati
Connecticut
Marshall
Maryland
Penn State
Pittsburgh
Rutgers
Syracuse
Temple
West Virginia

NOTES: Removed South Florida to the Sun Belt & Louisville to SEC.
Added Boston College & Maryland from the ACC, Penn State from the
Big 10, Marshall from Conference USA, Temple from Independents &
Buffalo from the MAC.

--------------
Pacific Twelve
--------------
Arizona
Arizona State
California
Nevada
Oregon
Oregon State
Southern California
Stanford
UCLA
UNLV
Washington
Washington State

NOTES: Added Nevada from WAC & UNLV from Mountain West.

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Mountain West
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Boise State
Brigham Young
Fresno State
Idaho
New Mexico
New Mexico State
San Diego State
San Jose State
UTEP
Utah
Utah State
Wyoming

NOTES: Moved Air force to Conference USA. Moved UNLV to Pac 10.
Moved Colorado State to Big 12. Added Boise State, Idaho, Fresno
State, New Mexico State, San Jose State & Utah State from WAC.
Added UTEP from Conference USA.

--------
Sun Belt
--------
Arkansas State
Central Florida
Florida Atlantic
Florida International
La.-Lafayette
Louisiana-Monroe
Louisiana Tech
Middle Tennessee
North Texas
South Florida
Troy
UAB

NOTES: Added Central Florida & UAB from Conference USA. Added
Louisiana Tech from WAC. Added South Florida from the Big East.

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Conference USA
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Air Force
Army
Hawaii
Houston
Memphis
Navy
Rice
Southern Methodist
Southern Miss
TCU
Tulane
Tulsa

NOTES: Moved CFU & UAB to Sun Belt. Moved Marshall to the Big East.
Moved UTEP to Mountain West. Added Army & Navy from Independents.
Added Air Force from Mountain West. Added Hawaii & TCU from WAC.

I think that this is the one I will go with. Was able to keep the Big Twelve together, essentially.
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Old 01-06-2007, 08:58 PM   #13
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I still like the first proposal better. I'd like to see the conferences split up a little more than what they are in the new proposal
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Old 01-09-2007, 10:03 AM   #14
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I still like the first proposal better. I'd like to see the conferences split up a little more than what they are in the new proposal

I think there is enough movement in 1A ... I just didn't really like the Big Texas Conference. I'm going to go with 1A.

I will not ne able to get this going for a week or so ...
Look for a new thread detailing the beginnning.
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