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Old 03-27-2003, 05:56 PM   #1
SaintAnselm
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CM4 Question

I've heard a lot about the speed of CM4 and in all the threads it talks about how many leagues you run. I only have a Pentium III 850 with 128 MB of RAM. I assume I won't be able to run many leagues. I have also have the terms foreground and background used. What does all this mean? In the leagues I don't run will I get statistics of the players? I just need someone to explain all of this to me. Thanks.

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Old 03-27-2003, 06:00 PM   #2
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Can't help you with CM, but just wondering where in CT are you from?
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Old 03-27-2003, 06:03 PM   #3
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I am from Marlborough. My father was born in Manchester over by the mall on Tolland Tpke.
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Old 03-27-2003, 06:51 PM   #4
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Re: CM4 Question

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I've heard a lot about the speed of CM4 and in all the threads it talks about how many leagues you run. I only have a Pentium III 850 with 128 MB of RAM. I assume I won't be able to run many leagues. I have also have the terms foreground and background used. What does all this mean? In the leagues I don't run will I get statistics of the players? I just need someone to explain all of this to me. Thanks.


You are correct you won't be able to run too many leagues, but most people don't anyway - normally just the major ones and and smaller ones they have specific interest in (e.g. Major ones-English, Spain, Italy, Scotland, Minor Ones - MLS Sweden, Denmark, France,Germany although the last two could be included in the major group).

Unless you have a specific interest in the Welsh, Croatian, Finnish leagues you probably wouldn't want to run them anyway.

Foreground and Background.
Foreground means that you will see the results of the games calculated, and will have the same detail as the league you are playing in
Background - similar, the games get played, but the results are calculated rather than played out (Marc will probably correct me on this shortly). You do still get the players ratings to see, and the league tables etc are available.

You can choose to switch between foreground and background for leagues whilst the game is in progress, so if you ran Scotland in background mode, then suddenly decided you wanted to manage Celtic, you can easily put it in foreground.

In addition with CM4 i understand that you can change the divisions from Background to foreground and vise versa, this is a performance enhancer new to this release. So for example if you wanted to play with Liverpool in the EPL and didn't really care about Div2 and div 3, you can put those divisions in background mode to help speed up the processing.

Normal calculation for leagues is - for every 2 leagues you have running in background mode it is the equivilent of 1 league running in foreground.

For leagues you don't run you still get some of the player stats, but I can't remember exactly how much detail you will get - they still get an average rating, games played etc.

Marc/anybody, please feel free to correct any information I may be mis-informed about, or anything i missed.

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Old 03-27-2003, 06:53 PM   #5
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One thing to remember about soccer is that it isn't really a game of stats like baseball or even football. The key stat from CM is the average rating and you see that for all players.

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Old 03-28-2003, 07:16 AM   #6
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Re: Re: CM4 Question

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Originally posted by CAsterling
You are correct you won't be able to run too many leagues, but most people don't anyway - normally just the major ones and and smaller ones they have specific interest in (e.g. Major ones-English, Spain, Italy, Scotland, Minor Ones - MLS Sweden, Denmark, France,Germany although the last two could be included in the major group).


Generally we consider Germany and France (even if it's getting worse every year) are in the major ones, while Scotland (+ Portugal, Belgium, Czech Republic and maybe Austria) is among the minor ones (mainly because the league isn't strong behind the Rangers and the Celtic)
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Old 03-28-2003, 08:01 AM   #7
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I too am concerned about how fast the game will process. I have a PIII 600 with 256 mb of ram. People on the sigames message board are complaining about speed and they have machines that are much quicker than mine. This may finally push me over the edge towards buying an X-Box and picking up NCAA Football.
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Old 03-28-2003, 08:39 AM   #8
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France has a league?
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Old 03-28-2003, 09:28 AM   #9
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Utah has mormons ?
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Old 03-28-2003, 09:31 AM   #10
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Utah has mormons ?


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Old 03-28-2003, 09:42 AM   #11
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Hehe, ok, point Alf.

I'm not here by choice damn't!

I'm just amazed how France can have one of the top National sides in the world, and have such a poor league. The wonders of the world.
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Old 03-28-2003, 09:47 AM   #12
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I'm just amazed how France can have one of the top National sides in the world, and have such a poor league. The wonders of the world.


Financial reasons

All the best French are playing in other leagues (mainly England) were they're getting paid much more than in France (reasons : many taxes in France, smaller stadiums, less revenues etc...)
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Old 03-28-2003, 10:40 AM   #13
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well Look at Ireland's national side, they're pretty good and then you look at the Irish League and it is pretty poor

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