WW CXXIV: When Worlds Collide - Game Over!

[EagleFan]

Updating with the new information.

Day One>>

(257) – Hulk Hogan (dubb93) attacks The Hulk (Schmidty)
(279) – Animal (Autumn) attacks dubb (invalid)
(279) – Gonzo (Autumn) attacks BK (invalid)
(281) – Tyrith attacks mckerney (invalid)
(282) – Honeydew (Autumn) attacks Lathum(invalid)
(282) – Beaker (Autumn) attacks Lathum(invalid)
(285) – Animal (Autumn) attacks Hulk Hogan (dubb93)
(285) – Gonzo (Autumn) attacks Athena (BK)
(285) – Honeydew (Autumn) attacks HarryPotter (Lathum)
(285) – Beaker (Autumn) attacks HarryPotter (Lathum)
(286) – Duke (EF) attacks Gonzo (Autumn)
(287) – Hulk Hogan (dubb) unattacks The Hulk (Schmidty)
(289) – Macho Man (dubb) attacks Gonzo (Autumn)
(290) – Jack Bauer (PF) attacks Gonzo (Autumn)
(294) – Athena (BK) attacks Beaker (Autumn)
(296) – Goo (cougar) attacksHarry Potter (Lathum)
(307) – Macho Man (dubb) unattacks Gonzo (Autumn)
(315) – Tyrith attacks Heavy (mckerney)
(319) – The Jackal attacks Doubtfire(DT)
(321) – ntn attacks TMIMITW(J23)
(342) – Dwight (Zinto) attacks Heavy (mckerney)
(343) – Cookie Monster (Chubby) attacks Chloe (who the f***is Chloe?)
(343) – Super Grover (Chubby) attacks Had Hatter (Crimson)
(343) – Oscar the Grouch (Chubby) attacks Miss Piggy(Autumn)
(345) – Lathum attacksBeaker (Autumn)
(357) – Zoe (mau) attacks Doormouse(Crimson)
(357) – Jayne (mau) attacks Doormouse(Crimson)
(357) – Malcolm (mau) attacks Doormouse(Crimson)
(358) – Macho Man (dubb) attacks TMIMITW(J23)
(358) – Hulk Hogan (dubb) attacks TMIMITW(J23)
(358) – Miss Elizabeth (dubb) attacks TMIMITW (J23)
(361) – Heavy (mckerney) attacks Keyser (Jackal)
(370) – Mel (JAG) attacks TMIMITW(J23)
(373) – Miss Piggy (Autumn) attacks The Hulk (Schmidty)
(373) – Kermit (Autumn) attacks The Hulk (Schmidty)
(373) – Chef (Autumn) attacks The Hulk (Schmidty)
(375) – Honeydew (Autumn) unattacks HarryPotter (Lathum)
(375) – Beaker (Autumn) unattacks HarryPotter (Lathum)
(375) – Honeydew (Autumn) attacks Goo(cougar)
(375) – Beaker (Autumn) attacks Goo(cougar)
(385) – Gonzo (Autumn) unattacks Athena (BK)
(385) – Gonzo (Autumn) attacks Doubtfire(DT)
(386) – Keyser (Jackal) unattacks Doubtfire(DT)
(386) – Keyser (Jackal) attacks Goo(cougar)
(389) – Keyser (Jackal) unattacks Goo(cougar)
(389) – Keyser (Jackal) attacks Doubtfire(DT)
(391) – Zoe (mau) unattacks dormouse(Crimson)
(391) – Jayne (mau) unattacks dormouse(Crimson)
(391) – Malcolm (mau) unattacks dormouse(Crimson)
(391) – Jayne (mau) attacks Gonzo (Autumn)
(391) – Zoe (mau) attacks Gonzo (Autumn)
(391) – Malcolm (mau) attacks Gonzo (Autumn)
(399) – Cthulu (DV) attacks The Hulk (Schmidty) – via message from Danny
(409) – Animal (Autumn) unattacks Hulk Hogan (dubb)
(409) – Animal (Autumn) attacks The Hulk (Schmidty)
(411) – Zinto unattacks Heavy (mckerney)
(411) – Zinto attacks TMIMITW(J23)
(412) – DT attacks TheHulk (Schmidty)
(419) – hoops votes TheHulk (Schmidty)
(430) – Piggy (Autumn) unattacks The Hulk (Schmidty)
(430) – Kermit (Autumn) unattacks The Hulk (Schmidty)
(430) – Animal (Autumn) unattacks The Hulk (Schmidty)
(430) – Chef (Autumn) unattacks The Hulk (Schmidty)
(430) – Piggy (Autumn) attacks TMIMITW(J23)
(430) – Kermit (Autumn) attacks TMIMITW(J23)
(430) – Animal (Autumn) attacks TMIMITW(J23)
(430) – Chef (Autumn) attacks TMIMITW(J23)
(432) – Mad Hatter (Crimson)attacks Heavy (mckerney)
(435) – March Hare (Crimson)attacks TMIMITW (J23)
(437) – Dormouse (Crimson)attacks Gonzo (Autumn)
(442) – Deadline

No submitted attacks: The Hulk (Schmidty) and TMIMITW (J23)

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

attack Thursday Next

I won an interaction with Robin Hood last night which gave me the power to "borrow" someone's power for the night. I borrowed Jack Bauer's and received an interogation ability.

I found out some information about ntn. It doesn't say that he is, or isn't a wolf, but I would be interested to hear what he has to say about his character today.

Is there a reason you're not sharing the info?

[Zinto]

I won Spock last night and I gained the ability to analyze any statement. I am a bit disappointed at the lack of "villager checking in" statements at the beginning of the game and it was tough to find any other ones statements to find out if they where true or not then those. The main point of this rant is I looked at this quote:

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

I feel like I've been a wolf a very high percentage of games I've played recently and so it's nice to just be a villager.

And I found Barkeep to be telling the truth.

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by Danny

Today's characters.

Sauron
Harry Potter
Jack Bauer

I will be interacting with my buddy Harry.

With only 3 people I think we should try to ensure that we have someone both attacking and interacting with each character.

[Zinto]

The reason I am disappointed in my inability to find any good statements on other people and I spent a good chunk of time after the deadline looking is that I generally felt pretty good about Barkeep and the other two who said they where villagers where Chubby and Autumn.

[The Jackal]

Nice info Zinto. That pushes BK right to the top of the trusted list.

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by Zinto

I won Spock last night and I gained the ability to analyze any statement. I am a bit disappointed at the lack of "villager checking in" statements at the beginning of the game and it was tough to find any other ones statements to find out if they where true or not then those. The main point of this rant is I looked at this quote:



And I found Barkeep to be telling the truth.

Sweet. I had a feeling that there'd be a soothsayer in this game and purposefully laid out a statement which could be checked. Glad to see that plan worked.

[Autumn]

That sounds like a very believable power for Spock, so I'll go with that.

I've got to head out for a bit, I'll post my thoughts when I get back.

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Is there a reason you're not sharing the info?

I would share if it said he was or wasn't a wolf. No need to share anything other than that. I want to see how honest he is about it and it kind of ruins that approach if I lay my cards on the table now.

Odd that you would ask though.

If he is honest, I move my attack. If he is not honest I keep the attack there and see if anyone wants to follow me.

I don't have anything solid enough to elicit a run on him until I hear back from him.

[Barkeep49]

Given that the wolves have been intent on knocking out people who've been cleared, I am willing to reveal one of my powers.

I have the ability to escape death, both by lynching and wolves, for 24 hours. I plan on using this power tonight.

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by Autumn

That sounds like a very believable power for Spock, so I'll go with that.

I've got to head out for a bit, I'll post my thoughts when I get back.

A word of caution though. If Z is a wolf that won that power he could have just cleared two wolves with that statement (he and BK). Just my paranoia speaking though, but it is a legitimate concern.

[EagleFan]

Need to look at this more tonight. Have to get back to work. Actually, Z's statement really would only clear BK and not himself after thinking about it. I need to stop posting thoughts as soon as they pop into my head.

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

A word of caution though. If Z is a wolf that won that power he could have just cleared two wolves with that statement (he and BK). Just my paranoia speaking though, but it is a legitimate concern.

And we've lost Jack Bauer for purposes of interrogation. It doesn't seem close enough to endgame for them to take a gamble like that, but on the other hand a couple bad days and I bet we have plenty of people who look more suspicious than Zinto/BK.

[mauchow]

Are we thinking two wolves left?

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by mauboy1

Are we thinking two wolves left?

Four wolves with 21 players, all of whom have abilities, seems tough. I'd probably guess there were three left, but who knows.

[mckerney]

The spy only try to kill teammates or hide on dead little bunny.

Heavy attacks Keyser Soze

[Zinto]

I understand the doubt on what I am saying and I have no doubt that I wouldn't completely trust what I was saying either if I was anyone else but like everything else it will come out eventually that I am telling the truth.

[JAG]

So BK and Autumn are looking rather cleared, dubb maybe only a notch below, Zinto and Chubby also are looking decent to me. That's a fairly solid block to work with. Glad to see we had villagers winning 3/5 characters yesterday to good effect.

[JAG]

I would guess two wolves left, possibly three, and 1-2 neutral characters.

[Zinto]

I am not against going after Keyser today since he is someone I tried to find a post to analyze but I couldn't find a really good one. I just do not have a read on him either way.

Really though I would much rather go for someone who has not been too active either Thursday Next if Eagle gets what he is looking for or Schmidty if Eagle does not find out what he is looking for.

[dubb93]

Well I attacked Robin Hood yesterday and definitely lost. I will leave it at that.

[dubb93]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

A word of caution though. If Z is a wolf that won that power he could have just cleared two wolves with that statement (he and BK). Just my paranoia speaking though, but it is a legitimate concern.

To be fair that is now two separate powers used on Barkeep and both are pointing toward the same thing.

We know he has been up to nothing at night(my ability I won).

And now it appears he has been soothsayer-ed.

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by mckerney

The spy only try to kill teammates or hide on dead little bunny.

Heavy attacks Keyser Soze

Not sure what you're trying to say there, but between you and JAG I feel much less confident about you. And not just because you attacked me on day one! I have a feeling CF put one of his attacks at the end of D1 on a fellow wolf, and without much else to go on, that's what I'll have to look to.

KEYSER ATTACKS HEAVY

[dubb93]

Assuming no one cares I would like to see the following done today:

Sauron -- Attack=McKerney // Interact=Barkeep
Harry Potter -- Attack=Dubb // Interact=Autumn
Jack Bauer -- Attack=EF // Interact=Chubby

The rest of you, if you have a better idea tell me. If you are a villager and you suspect one of the above is a wolf then by all means submit the same action as that person has been asked to submit.

[JAG]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

Not sure what you're trying to say there, but between you and JAG I feel much less confident about you. And not just because you attacked me on day one! I have a feeling CF put one of his attacks at the end of D1 on a fellow wolf, and without much else to go on, that's what I'll have to look to.

KEYSER ATTACKS HEAVY

Well, I know you're half-wrong already. As far as mckerney, even if what you said about CF is true, you would also have to assume Tyrith put an early attack on a wolf also and didn't change it. I could only go for that if we somehow knew Heavy had some ability that could only be activated by being attacked (which isn't impossible mind you).

[dubb93]

Originally Posted by JAG

Well, I know you're half-wrong already. As far as mckerney, even if what you said about CF is true, you would also have to assume Tyrith put an early attack on a wolf also and didn't change it. I could only go for that if we somehow knew Heavy had some ability that could only be activated by being attacked (which isn't impossible mind you).

I actually moved Heavy up my COT with that vote. Even I would be hard pressed to vote a wolf early on day 1 and leave it there all day. Completely different situation than a late vote on day 1.

[dubb93]

I will also go with EF on this one. If he says there is something that NTN needs to tell us then when NTN gets here he needs to have the motivation to tell us.

Macho Man attacks Thursday Next

Hulk Hogan attacks Thursday Next

[JAG]

Originally Posted by dubb93

Assuming no one cares I would like to see the following done today:

Sauron -- Attack=McKerney // Interact=Barkeep
Harry Potter -- Attack=Dubb // Interact=Autumn
Jack Bauer -- Attack=EF // Interact=Chubby

The rest of you, if you have a better idea tell me. If you are a villager and you suspect one of the above is a wolf then by all means submit the same action as that person has been asked to submit.

I like it, nicely done dubb.

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by dubb93

I actually moved Heavy up my COT with that vote. Even I would be hard pressed to vote a wolf early on day 1 and leave it there all day. Completely different situation than a late vote on day 1.

Thing is, even with a ton of attacks on MIMITW on day 1, he didn't die. So this wasn't a normal WW situation - one attack can easily not amount to much. Not like a sudden swing at the deadline of 1-2 votes would suddenly thrust a person into danger like normal.

I get what you're saying, but I have to look somewhere for a wolf, and I have a fair amount of trust for most of you. I'd like to hear from NTN to see if EF is on to anything. He fits in the whole UTR category that I was harping on with DT.

[JAG]

I'm going after Bauer as I feel less comfortable with EF than the others listed and I think he might be more important, assuming these guys will offer the same abilities they had when they lived. Not that it matters much since I haven't won anything to this point.

[JAG]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

Thing is, even with a ton of attacks on MIMITW on day 1, he didn't die. So this wasn't a normal WW situation - one attack can easily not amount to much. Not like a sudden swing at the deadline of 1-2 votes would suddenly thrust a person into danger like normal.

I get what you're saying, but I have to look somewhere for a wolf, and I have a fair amount of trust for most of you. I'd like to hear from NTN to see if EF is on to anything. He fits in the whole UTR category that I was harping on with DT.

That's true to some degree and I agree with the basic premise. But where I disagree is that one attack on a person can lead to attacks from others piling on in typical D1 fashion and that's where the danger would come in. It's possible, but it seems a rather risky attack when there were safer ones available. I will say I thought it curious he jumped along with me, who isn't nearly as well cleared as others, without much commentary. I would be likely to entertain that if your corpse cones up villager.

[mckerney]

Originally Posted by JAG

That's true to some degree and I agree with the basic premise. But where I disagree is that one attack on a person can lead to attacks from others piling on in typical D1 fashion and that's where the danger would come in. It's possible, but it seems a rather risky attack when there were safer ones available. I will say I thought it curious he jumped along with me, who isn't nearly as well cleared as others, without much commentary. I would be likely to entertain that if your corpse cones up villager.

I attack this man before and since then he been killing teammate. Now I want to finish job.

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by dubb93

Assuming no one cares I would like to see the following done today:

Sauron -- Attack=McKerney // Interact=Barkeep
Harry Potter -- Attack=Dubb // Interact=Autumn
Jack Bauer -- Attack=EF // Interact=Chubby

The rest of you, if you have a better idea tell me. If you are a villager and you suspect one of the above is a wolf then by all means submit the same action as that person has been asked to submit.

I like this plan as well and will gladly do it. I hope to hear my fellow 5 sign-on as well.

[ntndeacon]

I am more than willing to talk about my character. Well everything but my hit points. I think what EF is referring to is that the Save of Tyrith. I do have an ability that could have saved him too. I have an ability that can banish someone for 24 hours. where they can not use their abilities , or be attacked. However if this was used Tyrith would still be alive.

[ntndeacon]

Also I won Ahab last night. I was hoping he would be a tracking type power, however, it is a killing power with conditions...which as of yet haven't been met.

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by ntndeacon

Also I won Ahab last night. I was hoping he would be a tracking type power, however, it is a killing power with conditions...which as of yet haven't been met.

You clearly don't want to talk about the conditions that would have to be met for you to use the power. Can you explain why?

[mauchow]

Where am I on the list jag? I feel I deserve to be on it somewhere.

I called out the kill prior to it happening. I don't think the wolves would kill one of their own off when a 5 damage attack could have taken out someone else most likely. I also had to sacrifice something to be able to put this attack in place. The wolves IMO would rather create an extra day of voting on admiral and maybe save him.

[mckerney]

Originally Posted by dubb93

Assuming no one cares I would like to see the following done today:

Sauron -- Attack=McKerney // Interact=Barkeep
Harry Potter -- Attack=Dubb // Interact=Autumn
Jack Bauer -- Attack=EF // Interact=Chubby

The rest of you, if you have a better idea tell me. If you are a villager and you suspect one of the above is a wolf then by all means submit the same action as that person has been asked to submit.

I will shoot this man.

[dubb93]

Originally Posted by mauboy1

Where am I on the list jag? I feel I deserve to be on it somewhere.

I called out the kill prior to it happening. I don't think the wolves would kill one of their own off when a 5 damage attack could have taken out someone else most likely. I also had to sacrifice something to be able to put this attack in place. The wolves IMO would rather create an extra day of voting on admiral and maybe save him.

I'm not calling you bad, but killing off a wolf who IS going to be killed within the next day or so, to gain trust for another wolf is exactly what a good wolf would do. As a wolf not using that kill to gain trust would have a been a bad play.

[ntndeacon]

Well, Barkeep, I had small hopes of using it against one of the wolves, when I died...if I died today. The power comes from Ahabs famous quote:


"to the last I grapple with thee; from hell's heart I stab at thee; for hate's sake I spit my last breath at thee."

If I die I may chose someone to go with me.
That is wherre the power comes from. His last crazed rampage against the white whale

[EagleFan]

Keeping my attack where it is at, not sold on his explanation but will look at it more this evening.

[EagleFan]

What is the weekend like? I am guessing that after tonight the next deadline will be Monday morning for tonight's night deadline.

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by ntndeacon

Well, Barkeep, I had small hopes of using it against one of the wolves, when I died...if I died today. The power comes from Ahabs famous quote:


"to the last I grapple with thee; from hell's heart I stab at thee; for hate's sake I spit my last breath at thee."

If I die I may chose someone to go with me.
That is wherre the power comes from. His last crazed rampage against the white whale

I see. So you're the brutal wolf.

Athena attacks Thursday Next

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

I see. So you're the brutal wolf.

Athena attacks Thursday Next

Note that I'm not saying he didn't win Ahab. Just pointing out that he's claiming a fairly typical wolf power.

[Autumn]

I will interact with Harry Potter, that seems a very good plan.

[JAG]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Note that I'm not saying he didn't win Ahab. Just pointing out that he's claiming a fairly typical wolf power.

That makes no sense. Why would a brutal wolf claim his own ability to no benefit? I think his claim is believable, regarding Ahab's power. I doubt he just conjured that up and / or happens to be a brutal wolf when more than likely there are no traditional roles out there (no cunning / brutal wolf, no seer / BG, just a bunch of characters with powers).

If you are a villager and die ntn, I recommend taking Jackal with you.

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by JAG

That makes no sense. Why would a brutal wolf claim his own ability to no benefit? I think his claim is believable, regarding Ahab's power. I doubt he just conjured that up and / or happens to be a brutal wolf when more than likely there are no traditional roles out there (no cunning / brutal wolf, no seer / BG, just a bunch of characters with powers).

If you are a villager and die ntn, I recommend taking Jackal with you.

Because if he claims to be a brutal villager it makes us much less likely to attack him, no?

[ntndeacon]

yes it is usually a standard wolf power, but no one met Ahabs requirements it goes to a random person.

[ntndeacon]

Originally Posted by JAG

That makes no sense. Why would a brutal wolf claim his own ability to no benefit? I think his claim is believable, regarding Ahab's power. I doubt he just conjured that up and / or happens to be a brutal wolf when more than likely there are no traditional roles out there (no cunning / brutal wolf, no seer / BG, just a bunch of characters with powers).

If you are a villager and die ntn, I recommend taking Jackal with you.

I don't plan to die, but if I do I certainly don't mind putting the one to take with me to those that think they have a wolf, including Jackal.

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by ntndeacon

yes it is usually a standard wolf power, but no one met Ahabs requirements it goes to a random person.

But we only have you to say that really is his power. There could just as easily be a different Ahab power you won and are using this as a mask.